Kali Tudo...hows it going in mma

[ziggybob]

Hello all and thank you for the time.

I have been a fan/student of the Dog Brothers and DBMA thinking and training methods for quite a while. Im finally in a position to get a copy of Kali Tudo and I am extremely excited about this. I've already thrown my class and Teachers many curves with the information I've been lucky enough to absorb from prior DB videos. Although, sometimes they don't seem to like me venturing far from the "expected moves". HAHA ...

Anyway, I was curious with the results others were getting with the information and training in regards to Kali Tudo and the Kali/Silat/KK in the MMA world. Guro Crafty, could you give us an update on some of the MMA fighters associated with Dog Brothers?

I would also love to hear from others with any input.

Thank you again in advance for any responses. Time is precious and I certainly appreciate that anybody would share their time with me.

Train hard to Fight hard

Best Regards,

Robert Marlow

[pretty_kitty]

Totally off topic!

You have the exact name of the guy I bought my 1955 red Chevy from in 1994!  But he lived in Ohio.



(BTW...check out http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=597 for information about Kali-Tudo.)

[ziggybob]

Hello and glad to be here,

Thank you for the time and referal. A great read indeed. I certainly wish I had a Red '55 Chevy. I have always been a sucker for the Nomad.

Again, thank you for the reply.

Best regards,

Robert Marlow

[Crafty_Dog]

Woof Ziggy:

Thank you for your question.  Lets have this conversation on the already existant Kali Tudo thread.  No more posts on this thread please.

Crafty Dog

[Crafty_Dog]

Posted by Minority of One on my FB page:

"People really need to get the Kali Tudo material if they haven't already. I've trained guys in MMA for a while now and have been in the martial arts for over 15 yrs......this Kali Tudo material is by far some of the most innovative stuff out right now in the MA world! It's open the doors of possibility and truly changes the game of fighting. Adding these concepts to my game has really caused new headaches for my sparring partners. "

[Crafty_Dog]

I thought the boxing light heavyweight title fight between Pascal and Hopkins several days ago quite good.  I wouldn't have scored the first knockdown a knockdown and would have given the decision to Hopkins (45 years old vs. Pascal's 28! Go Hopkins!!!) but of relevance to this thread were the first few rounds of the fight, which were clearly won by Pascal (and kudos to Hopkins for keeping his mind right and turning the fight around).

To my eye, Pascal threw a number of successful zirconias though he began going to the well a bit too often I thought.  Like Rua's knock out of Chuck Liddell, the punch was more of a hook than a straight and there was no cutting of the corner of the diamond to the point of the diamond, but this is a move that was not really seen until , , , sometime after the release of Kali Tudo 1   Of course, the move existed before KT1 and I certainly can't say that Rua, Pascal, or their trainers watched KT1, but it is an interesting coincidence.  At the very least, the people who doubted the zirconia when they first saw it in KT1 need to reconsider.  Indeed I know of a few who have reconsidered to the point of their saying it was nothing new and has been there all along. 

[Crafty_Dog]

A few monts ago C-Guard Dog sent me a clip of a Nate Diaz fight in which he did something very much like a Dracula , , , without the footwork and, by out criteria perhaps with the less preferred hand for how things were lined up, but looking like a Dracula nonetheless.  C-GD wondered in Nate had been watching our Kali Tudo DVDs    This week Nate had a very interesting fight which he finished in the final seconds of the first round which had some strikes which looked to my eye similar to things I have been showing in our DVDs.  Certainly I can't say he has been watching our DVDs! but it would tickle my vanity greatly if he were , , ,

[Crafty_Dog]

I showed Dan Theodore some of my Kali Tudo a few years back and was pleasantly surprised to see his post on my FB page:

"Hey Marc, wanted to let you know, I sparred a VERY well known fighter today light Box-Heavy Wrestling w MMA gloves and tried out your Kali Tudo Entry you showed me years ago.....I got right to my Underhook! Think punch might of landed too had it been full on IDK. Respect!"

He messaged me as well:

"Here is the vid, I hope it is ok, I give your respect for your 3rd technique, share it if you would like http://youtu.be/HekcOajallU"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HekcOajallU

Actually, forgive my vanity, but, as can be seen in the Kali Tudo-1 DVD, techniques one and two are mine as well  

[Crafty_Dog]

The technique in question scores a quick win here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f8yZmIx9_o&feature=player_embedded#!

The fight begins at about 4:00 with the TKO shortly thereafter.  The slo-mo replay comes at 6:05.

[Crafty_Dog]

Looks like our Zirconia, which was unseen prior to our KT-1, is entering the main stream: 

http://ironforgesiron.com/2012/06/video-mma-uncensored-live-621-paul-daley-greg-jacksons-camp-firas-zahabi/

see footage after 08:40.  BTW Dan "the Wolfman" Theodore, seen in some of the footage here, has PM'd me about how I showed him the Zirconia several years ago, prior to this training here.

[Tony Torre]

This looks Kali Tudoish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deAXB6NpJLE&feature=g-vrec

Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com

[Crafty_Dog]

Hoping to have a big development on this front in a few weeks , , ,

[Crafty_Dog]

Soy luchador profesional de MMA con un record de ocho victorias y ninguna perdida.  Actualmente entreno como miembro del equipo “Black House” el cual cuenta con destacados luchadores como Anderson Silva y Lyoto Machida.  Vengo entrenando “Kali Tudo” con Marc Denny desde hace algunos meses y puedo ver una grande diferencia en mi estrategia de pelea.   Puedo ver una gran facilidad para atacar mis oponentes en diferentes angulos y distancias. También he aprendido otras maneras de golpear a las que no estaba acostumbrado.  Me sirven muy bien actualmente y las entreno diariamente, cada dia me sirven mejor y espero con ganas usar “Kali Tudo” con éxito en mi proxima pelea. 
 
Pedro Munhoz

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/12/18/2643481/pedro-munhoz-mma-10-world-mma-scouting-report

[Crafty_Dog]

Here is my translation:

"I am a professional MMA fighter with a record of 8-0. Currently I am a member of the Black House team, a team which includes fighters such as Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida. I have been training "Kali Tudo" with Marc Denny for several months now and I can see a great difference in my fight strategy. I am finding a great ease in attacking my opponents in different angles and distances. I have also learned new ways of striking with which I was not familiar. They are working well for me and I train them daily, they help me more every day, and I look forward to using "Kali Tudo" in my next fight."

[Crafty_Dog]

When I developed "the Zirconia" (a jab transitioning through on false lead on the outside diamond triangle-- false + diamond = zirconia, my idea of funny) I was applying a footwork that I had used with success in stickfighting with a Lameco combination three. It was not until about 10-12 years later (a year ago from now) that I saw some footage of GM Tatang Ilustrisimo (he being of great influence on my techer Punong Guro Edgar Sulite) sparring on youtube and saw him use this as a special move. I confess to feeling rather clever at having intuited on my own something that this great master of FMA used.
 
Anyway, I took the concept (jab with a simultaneous forward diagonal step with the year foot finishing with a cross with the other foot stepping to complete the triangle) and applied it to "Kali Tudo".
 
Shogun Rua knocked out Chuck Liddel with the first half of this, though the punch was more of a long hook than a straight punch because Chuck was moving to his right).
 
Guard Dog posted a clip not a few months ago here of a complete Zirconia being used for a KO in an MMA fight in India.
 
Now we see this clip teaching it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZwlBNj0qPks
 
Am I an egomaniac for calling this a copy of the Zirconia? OTOH, if I don't speak up then , , ,

[For_Crafty_Dog]

The link in the previous post..now embedded...

[For_Crafty_Dog]

Here is my translation:

"I am a professional MMA fighter with a record of 8-0. Currently I am a member of the Black House team, a team which includes fighters such as Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida. I have been training "Kali Tudo" with Marc Denny for several months now and I can see a great difference in my fight strategy. I am finding a great ease in attacking my opponents in different angles and distances. I have also learned new ways of striking with which I was not familiar. They are working well for me and I train them daily, they help me more every day, and I look forward to using "Kali Tudo" in my next fight."

Pedro Munhoz

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/12/18/2643481/pedro-munhoz-mma-10-world-mma-scouting-report

“Pedro Munhoz training with some folks you may recognize.”

[Crafty_Dog]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLINRriHeDA&feature=g-vrec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShoJVkFvVbM&feature=related