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« on: March 12, 2017, 06:50:58 AM »

We are past 50 days into Trump's term.  It is certainly time to start talking about 2020  .     rolleyes

Will the eventual nominee be a dark horse or some known big shot we already know trying to jump into the power vacuum at the top?

Like Boomer Bloomberg,  Clinton again (Hillary not Chelsea , another Cuomo , Biden, Sanders, Schumer (Charlie not Amy)

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Andrew-Cuomo-president-2020-fundraisers/2017/03/11/id/778222/
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2017, 11:17:41 AM »

We are past 50 days into Trump's term.  It is certainly time to start talking about 2020  .     rolleyes

Will the eventual nominee be a dark horse or some known big shot we already know trying to jump into the power vacuum at the top?

Like Boomer Bloomberg,  Clinton again (Hillary not Chelsea , another Cuomo , Biden, Sanders, Schumer (Charlie not Amy)

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Andrew-Cuomo-president-2020-fundraisers/2017/03/11/id/778222/

That's an excellent subject.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2017, 08:08:42 PM »

America hasn't suffered enough!
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2017, 08:36:26 AM »

America hasn't suffered enough!

I think there's a strong argument against that GM.  grin grin grin grin
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2017, 11:52:04 AM »

another stab at a dynasty:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-Biden-New-Hampshire/2017/04/30/id/787261/

It is assured he will run.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2017, 07:19:55 PM »

though maybe not '20:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/ohio-family-surprised-when-mark-zuckerberg-comes-to-dinner/
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2017, 10:42:23 AM »

"So far, the similarities are eerie."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/04/27/will_2020_be_another_1972_for_democrats_133718.html

"if in 2020 Democrats go hard left as they did in 1972, then they will likely lose just as big."
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2017, 11:05:26 AM »

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/05/01/100-days-of-theresistances-humiliating-failure-n2320453

100 Days of #TheResistance’s Humiliating Failure
Kurt  Schlichter Kurt Schlichter |Posted: May 01, 2017 12:01 AM 

In the first 100 days since Felonia von Pantsuit was not inaugurated, the goofy collection of commie traitors, coastal snobs, and crack-pot weirdoes that hilariously styles itself “#TheResistance” has only managed to successfully resist success. Oh sure, they and the catamite media tried their darnedest but, as Yoda said, “Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try.” And, as Yoda also said, “Chelsea Clinton is best Democrats can do, say you? Kidding me, you are.”

Yeah, after 100 days President Trump has reintroduced the world to Alpha America after eight years of Barack’s fussy betaism, gutted a Schumer-ton of regulations, and broke the Senate Democrats’ spirit by suckering them into a loser play that resulted in Justice Gorsuch today and, I hope, Justice Crazy Conservative Caveman to replace Justice Kennedy this summer. Plus, of course, his two greatest achievements – not being Hillary, and surviving even after being subjected to every slander, lie, and fake news report the gyno-hat left could throw at him.

Really, that #TheResistance could throw at us, because #TheResistance is not really resisting Trump as much as it is resisting us. The elite establishment is outraged that we normals have demanded to govern ourselves rather than begging for scraps from our betters in DC, NY and LA. It wasn’t just that horrible, sick old woman that we rejected; it was them. And by doing so, we “stole” what they see as their birthright to reign sovereign over us. They try to cover up their humiliation with tales of “Russians” and “hacking” because the truth is too painful to face. This election was about the people they sought to rule looking at them and their track record of failure and saying, “Nah, you suck.”

#TheResistance has got nothing. The kook caucus is now slow-walking its insistence that The Donald and Vlad were hanging out in hot tubs playing patty-cake because it became clear that the Obama White House had been spying on the Republicans knowing that they’d never be held to account with President Hillary in office. Oops. That worked out poorly; my advice to Ben Rhodes is, on your first day on the cellblock, take a swing at the biggest guy you can find.

#The Resistance is a mess. Now they’re reduced to fighting for supremacy in their final redoubt, the universities where their fascist intimidation and suppression of speech provides a glimpse of America as it would have been had Trump not been elected. That they are forced into a last-ditch effort to keep power in an institution where their control is total is proof positive of their weakness. And the fact that the only way they have a shot at succeeding is to actively work to silence the voices of non-idiocy is icing on the cake. Their goose-stepping antics on campus are providing America a preview of life under Democrats, and it’s not helping them.

Then there’s the cultural backlash, which is accomplishing … nothing. Polls show readers are less likely to trust the mainstream media than random emails from Nigerian princes. ESPN is dying, in no small part thanks to the campaign to throw tiresome progressive tropes into a network people turn to for some mindless sportsball. No one wants to see the next Keith Olbermann fulminating about “TRUMP’S TREASON!!!!!” between dwarf tosses on The Ocho.


And there is the interchangeable late night crowd whose predictable conformity to the anti-normal agenda has turned Johnny Carson’s former level playing field into a tiresome lefty echo chamber where viral clips of obscure hosts “destroying” Trump provide much needed erotic stimulus to liberal geeks who know not the loving touch of a living human.

The most hilarious part is the super-timely and relevant Handmaid’s Tale miniseries, a festival of imagined oppression porn designed to give frigid liberal women and their neutered male-identifying partners some much-needed bitter jollies. If you’ve never dated a college sophomore who got assigned that stupid book in her feminist lit seminar and now can’t shut up about it, this over-praised dystopian tome imagines a giant Christian conspiracy to create a gay-killing theocracy where women are slaves who are forced to cover their bodies and who are occasionally genitally mutilated. Sure, that scenario sounds familiar (Radical Islam), but I just can’t place it (Radical Islam). Oh, right – it’s totally Donald Trump’s agenda (Radical Islam).

By the way, the not-at-all out-of-touch Democrats responded to Trump’s election by appointing a radical Muslim leftist as second-in-command at the Democratic National Committee. Perhaps that’s part of their outreach program to nail down their support on college campuses, in Manhattan, and among the culturally suicidal. Way to recover Wisconsin, geniuses.


Again, this is the very best #TheResistance can do.

Now, everything is not perfect, but even those issues where Donald Trump has failed to attain his objectives (yet) are not that helpful to #TheResistance. Its “victories” don’t seem very victorious. They got some judge in Hawaii to (temporarily) stop Trump from excluding refugees from various jihadi-infused hellholes, thereby buying the Democrats the next massacre by one of these creeps. They got another judge to (temporarily) allow sanctuary cities to ignore the law, thereby buying the Democrats the next murder by a MS-13 creep. Way to go, Dems. You’re the party of importing Muslim fanatics and illegal alien gangbangers. See you in 2018!

The Democrats have stopped the repeal of Obamacare (temporarily), and have somehow convinced themselves that this will help them. Of course, because they think we’re dumb, they imagine we will forget that it’s called “Obamacare.” It’ll be nice to be rid of it, but not if the replacement is nearly as bad. Here’s the thing – the GOP alone could pass the Obamacare replacement, but it’s being held up by conservatives who want to make it more conservative. Wrap that around your head – for the first time in the history of ever, Republicans are blocking legislation for not being conservative enough. Briar, meet patch.


President Trump has a bunch of nominees pending for key jobs, and rumor has it that Never Trump infiltrators are slow-walking them to purposefully make him look bad. He should stop tolerating it, clean house, and demand his team perform. He could also be appointing judges faster, though rumor has it that a bunch of nominations are coming soon. They will sail through the Senate, and the federal courts will stop being the Democrat’s last gasp defense, all thanks to Harry Reid, who is currently back in Nevada living in a sex dungeon with his NordicTrack/dominatrix.

There’s no indication that the next 100 days, or the 100 days thereafter, will be any better for #TheResistance. It can fume and it can fuss, but slowly and steadily, the normal are winning. As Yoda might have said, “Pathetic you are, for win you do not, despite your media friends and your sex organ sombreros.”
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2017, 04:39:58 PM »

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/07/14/5-indicators-that-mark-zuckerberg-is-considering-a-run-for-president/         shocked huh rolleyes
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2017, 10:39:04 AM »

https://www.youngcons.com/obama-and-advisers-want-ma-gov-deval-patrick-to-run-for-president-in-2020/?ref=FacebookPost
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2017, 07:10:41 AM »

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/fck-zuck-2020-street-art-appears-facebook-founder-hires-hillary-strategist/
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2017, 09:58:02 AM »

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/05/entertainment/michelle-obama-beyonce-birthday/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Most+Recent%29&utm_content=Yahoo+Search+Results

vs Rock (Dwayne Johnson)/ Kid Rock

or even more exciting:

William Kristol / George Will    rolleyes
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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2017, 10:25:12 AM »

Very interesting read, but this is not the thread for it.

Curious what thread do you think, for comments.  I'll try 2020 Presidential with mine, but the article did include this:  "the cultural division between privileged, government-connected elites and the rest of the country has turned twenty-first century politics in America into a cold civil war between hostile socio-political identities."

Maybe this is just politics as usual, always changing while staying the same and the pendulum swinging. 

It seems to me that over the last dozen years: 
Establishment Republicans (Bush) failed to be consistent, competent or conservative and the result was a hard left turn.
The Left turned too far to the left and the country rejected that without embracing anything conservative or Republican. 
Now Trump and the Republicans flounder with no governing theme, no legislative success and losing support, and  the Democrats are not winning them back. 

What is left is a political opening a mile wide for a new leader to march through somewhere between the Trump message and sanity and no one seems to know how to capture it or where to go with it.

What we (always) need is better overlap of a great leader, a great message and a great direction.

The only person I see who could unite more than one faction and lead this country in amy positive direction now  is VP Mike Pence, and only if DT slipped off the stage without too much fanfare... which I don't see happening.

As we face more and more of the unknown and see a complete inability to govern, what we get is more and more of the status quo.  We've had wide swings in the electoral everything and what I see at least in my world is the same high taxes, same over-regulation and same leftist media-education-government complex with mutually assured hatred with the largest group they call the deplorables.

We need a leader who can change minds, in a positive way, not just ride a wave.
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2017, 09:53:06 AM »

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/Chris-Matthews-Says-He-Knows-Joe-Biden-Is-Running-for-President-in-2020-Talked-to-His-Family-455016723.html

Nothing in 2020 is for sure in 2017.  For one thing that makes him 78 at inauguration and 82 at reelection.
Still, if true, this changes everything. )   It is his turn!

Curious and thinking of the Jeb Bush implosion, when did Joe Biden last run and win a highly contentious campaign?
In 1972, an energetic young Joe Biden beat a far more qualified Republican J. Caleb Boggs by 50% to 49% to win his Senate seat.  That is 48 years prior to the 2020 election.  There is no reason to think he can't do it again!

Age is a risk factor for Alzheimer's. And at 69, Ronald Reagan was the oldest man to be elected president.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/ronald-reagan-alzheimers-presidency/story?id=12633225

Biden would be 9 years older than Reagan, but really he has no 'before' yardstick from which to measure mental deterioration.

Trump is no youngster either and his health in the 2020 campaign to the Jan 2025 end of second term is unknown too.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2017, 08:05:26 AM »

http://www.dailywire.com/news/23620/poll-biden-would-swamp-trump-if-2020-election-were-hank-berrien?utm_source=cnemail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=111617-news&utm_campaign=position1
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2017, 09:35:07 AM »

Biden would beat Trump today

Trump has not been able to attract anyone beyond the core 40% ish.

The media DNC Obama/ex Clinton mob academic complex is winning.

Someone sent Rush and email suggesting that maybe Trump is "not the guy".  Rush went on break before he was going to respond to it and I had to go to work so I did not hear his thoughts on the topic.

Trump is clearly the guy who has the courage and stamina to fight the libs.....   but alas he is NOT the guy IMHO who can go up against the "establishment".  His qualities are only part of the package needed.   Sadly, beyond him we have no one else. 

Isn't it obvious by now?  Don't we all know this?

Not looking good for '18 or '20 at this juncture and the tax package not likely to turn this around in my opinion.

Mike Savage is right - bottom line - we are a left of center country now.
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2017, 09:40:50 AM »

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/372531.php

We Need to Talk About Uncle Joe

Joe Biden, serial young girl-toucher.


*Let him run.*
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2017, 10:44:52 AM »

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/372531.php
We Need to Talk About Uncle Joe
Joe Biden, serial young girl-toucher.
*Let him run.*


Predictions of what other people will do and how other people will vote are not my strength, but Joe Biden loses his 'VP for Obama' pedestal the moment he enters the race and will start taking incoming arrows.  Like G M points out, he was caught 'touching' women before powerful men started getting busted for it.  That's just old Joe or those were different times doesn't cut it as an excuse.  He was doing what Trump was caught talking about.  George HW Bush is now feeling the heat.  Biden was the worst for that kind of thing.  Leftists are turning on Bill Clinton now to clear their own names admitting their own guilt.  At some point, women are going to turn against unprofessional, sexist sleazeballs.

His career was lousy.  His other campaigns were dreadful.  Loose lips don't describe things that come out of his mouth, more like loose brain.  He lost his debate to Sarah Palin.  People should review that video for the quality and accuracy of his answers.  Every time he said let me repeat that, he repeated a falsehood.

His chairmanship of the Senate Judiciary committee was a disaster, Bork, Anita Hill, Clarence Thomas, etc.

What did he do as Vice President?  He was a placeholder, someone who made friend and foe not want anything to happen to Obama.  He never was the best or most qualified person for that job.  Chosen to be harmless, if he just doesn't talk too much.  Obama was never tied to Biden gaffes; a President Biden would be.  Or take the other tack, he was instrumental in a failed administration.  Measure it in GDP, danger in the world or number of Republicans elected while they were in charge.

If you look at what liberals and Democrats think what went wrong with the trump personna and Presidency, ignoramus was a word I just saw used twice by them, how does picking Joe Biden take them to the next level.?

To be fair, he also said or did one or two right in his half century in Washington.  He would have split off the Iraqi Kurds along time ago, and from the left coalition point of view he was one step ahead of the curve on gay marriage.

Skipping the Trump years, he is not the logical successor to Obama who was in his 40s when elected President and played the unknown about him as a blank canvas for each voter and group to paint for themselves.  He is old and known.  Either the body, energy level or mental sharpness (how will we know?) will catch up with him, if not the creepy stuff.

The only Democrat contemplating how great things would be if Biden were President is Biden.

Both parties (and most other countries) need new leaders!
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2017, 01:23:58 PM »

Agreed re Biden, but Trump is digging a whole for himself and for us in many, many ways.  That a putz like Biden could score this well speaks volumes.
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