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« Reply #750 on: June 22, 2016, 05:43:42 PM »

Gotta love the left . Trump lies that we don't pay high taxes.  Well half of the people in the Us don't.  So true on that account. But for those of us who do it is high:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tax-rate_us_576ade9ae4b0c0252e781158?section=
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« Reply #751 on: June 23, 2016, 11:18:56 AM »




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« Reply #752 on: June 23, 2016, 04:01:32 PM »

Democrats Abandon Due Process

 by KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON   June 23, 2016 1:50 PM @KEVINNR

 First the First, second the Second and the Fifth Amendments In September of 2014, Senate Democrats voted to repeal the First Amendment. They were enraged by a Supreme Court decision holding that ordinary constitutional protections for free speech prohibited the government from punishing political activists who had shown a film critical of Hillary Rodham Clinton in the run-up to the 2008 presidential election. This was a straightforward case of classical political speech — critics of Mrs. Clinton arguing that she’d make a poor president and distributing a film making that case — and Democrats, including every single Democrat in the Senate, insisted that that isn’t what the First Amendment is intended to protect. They started at the beginning, and are making their way down the Bill of Rights, with the Second Amendment and the Fifth Amendment. The Second Amendment holds that “the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed,” while the Fifth provides that no one may “be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”

These are what are known as civil rights, meaning the rights associated with citizenship, rights having to do with the relationship between people — or “the People” as the Constitution puts it — and their government. Many Americans do not think of the right to keep and bear arms as a civil right, but they are mistaken. It helps to understand things from the point of view of the Founders and the 18th-century radical liberals whose ideas shaped our republic. Prior to the American founding, the right to keep and bear arms was generally limited to the aristocracy; it was, like the possession of a title or a coat of arms (coat of what?), a bright and dramatic dividing line between the ruling class and the ruled classes, between the Whos and Whoms of society. Arguments about licensing the carry of weapons are hardly new: Caravaggio was arrested for carrying without a license (a sword, in his case) in 1598 near the Piazza Navona in Rome at 3 a.m.

 The bearing of arms is a sign of citizenship, which is to say, of being a full participant in government who acts through it, as opposed to subjectship, the state of being a passive being who does not act through government but who is acted upon. In that sense, it is like the ability to vote or to be eligible for service in government. Frederick Douglass understood this linkage perfectly, inasmuch as these ideas were much better understood in those more literate days. “A man’s rights rest in three boxes,” he said. “The ballot box, jury box, and the cartridge box. Let no man be kept from the ballot box because of his color. Let no woman be kept from the ballot box because of her sex.” The militias contemplated by the Second Amendment were armed citizen volunteers who could act to use the force of arms to keep the peace in an emergency; they are entitled to act in the peacekeeping role generally reserved for the state because, being the citizens of a republic, they are the state, the very seat of its sovereignty. The formal government is a provisional arrangement (hence regular elections) constituted as a convenience. While the Second Amendment may not codify a “right of revolution,” as some put it, the idea of armed citizens pushing out a government that had become inconvenient, a burden on their liberties rather than a guarantor of them, could hardly have been alien to a group of men who had just risked their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor doing just that.

The Democrat party has abandoned the notion of procedural justice in pursuit of substantive outcomes demanded by its supporters, the rule of law be damned. The Fifth Amendment, with its emphasis on process, is an expression of the republican ideal of justice, which is oriented toward process rather than outcomes. The classical liberal view is that justice has two components, a procedural one and a substantive one, and that the law is organized to ensure procedural justice, i.e., that all men are treated equally and that no one is penalized without the formal criteria of the law having been satisfied. This is why even the worst criminals, caught red-handed in the act, are given trials with legal representation, the presentation of evidence, a robust defense, and the consideration of a jury rather than being torn to pieces in the street. Lynching a child molester might satisfy substantive justice in that the offender did indeed deserve to die for his crimes, but it does not satisfy procedural justice, which is what the law concerns itself with. Because mobs are prone to error and easily misled, one of the functions of procedural justice is to protect substantive justice (beyond a reasonable doubt and all that), but it also exists to ensure the orderly functioning of a society under the rule of law, which is why we generally accept the enforcement of unjust or unwise laws (e.g., the prohibition of marijuana) while we work to change them.

It is a measure of the corruption of the Democratic party and its ability to inspire corruption in others that John Lewis, once a civil-rights leader, is today leading a movement to strip Americans of their civil rights based on secret lists of subversives compiled by police agencies and the military. Perhaps it has not occurred to Representative Lewis that his mentor, the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr., also was on a secret government list, as indeed was Lewis himself under the watchful eye of J. Edgar Hoover.  The Democrats demand that Americans be stripped of their Second Amendment rights with no attention paid to the Fifth Amendment, to due process. They propose that Americans be stripped of their legal protections under the Bill of Rights even when they have not been charged with, much less convicted of, a crime. They propose that this be done on the basis of a series of secret government lists, whose contents, criteria, and keepers are treated as state secrets. You cannot call yourself a “liberal” and endorse that. You cannot call yourself a “liberal” and endure that.

 The Democratic party in 2016 is not a liberal party. It is a party that is working diligently to rescind free-speech rights on one front and to undermine due-process protections on another. It has abandoned the notion of procedural justice in pursuit of substantive outcomes demanded by its supporters, the rule of law be damned. There is a term for the armed pursuit of justice, real or perceived, outside the rule of law, and that term is “lynching.” The Democrats have lynching in their political DNA, and they seem to be unable to evolve past it. Ironically, their abandonment of due process and their flirtation with tyranny are reminders of one of the reasons why the Founders believed it necessary to have an armed citizenry. That is an unpleasant thing to contemplate. Better that all of us, conservatives and the genuinely liberal alike, should demand the rule of law, due process and all, even for our political opponents, even when we do not like the outcome. — Kevin D. Williamson is National Review’s roving correspondent.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437025/democrats-abandon-due-process
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« Reply #753 on: June 23, 2016, 08:33:22 PM »

http://heatst.com/politics/26-of-the-democrats-who-participated-in-the-gun-control-sit-in-own-guns/

While protesting in a building protected by men with guns, including AR type rifles.
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« Reply #754 on: June 28, 2016, 07:58:25 AM »

Lets see.  If we get millions of people to sign that a redo of the 2012 election is only fair then lets get the signatures.  We all know Romney should have won and he only lost because Hillary and obama went out and lied about Benghazi and also that he is not really advancing the US but is advancing the one world country dogma.  And the libs are just too dumb to know what is best for themselves:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/28/billionaire-branson-calls-nonbinding-brexit-vote-rejected/
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« Reply #755 on: June 28, 2016, 08:08:26 PM »

More singling out a demographic they need votes from and use tax money to bribe them for their votes.  No end to segmentation of whole classes of society and singling them out for special treatment from the left.  Divide people , steal from some and bribe others with that which was taken and conquer :

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/clinton-offer-debt-forgiveness-young-entrepreneurs-100041087--politics.html

endless "policy" "management" government control and attempts at social engineering.  Just no end.  Till the day we all die.
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« Reply #756 on: June 29, 2016, 09:55:45 PM »

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/06/29/obama-appointed-prosecutor-chills-free-speech-in-idaho-migrant-sex-assault/?singlepage=true

Watch what you say.
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« Reply #757 on: June 30, 2016, 07:15:38 AM »

"America’s version of the British antidote to elite hypocrisy is the buffoonish populist Donald Trump. Like the architects of Brexit, he arose not from what he was for, but what he said he was against."

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437303/brexit-elites-dont-practice-what-they-preach
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437303/brexit-elites-dont-practice-what-they-preach
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« Reply #758 on: July 08, 2016, 10:14:43 AM »

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2016/07/07/denial-dies-in-dallas/?singlepage=true

Denial Dies in Dallas
By Richard Fernandez July 7, 2016

Beware, really beware

The dry branches were piled high on the forest floor waiting for a spark. The City Journal wrote:

    Violence in Chicago is reaching epidemic proportions. In the first five months of 2016, someone was shot every two and a half hours and someone murdered every 14 hours, for a total of nearly 1,400 nonfatal shooting victims and 240 fatalities. Over Memorial Day weekend, 69 people were shot, nearly one per hour, dwarfing the previous year’s tally of 53 shootings over the same period. The violence is spilling over from the city’s gang-infested South and West Sides into the downtown business district; Lake Shore Drive has seen drive-by shootings and robberies.

The crime wave in Chicago illustrates how politicians trapped themselves in a vise of conflicting expectations from which there is no escape. It has proved impossible to do something and its opposite simultaneously, in this case withdraw the police and protect the community. It may prove just as impossible to require transgender bathrooms and guarantee no sexual harassment takes place or open the borders while promising there will be no terror attacks. When one thinks of it, making health care "affordable" while opening it to high risk groups was always a unlikely proposition.

Impossible, yet Big Tent constituencies are routinely green-lighted on both ends of a one way street and told to floor the pedal. For a while they could spin it with smoke and mirrors. But in the end, illusion does not last.
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“What if I told you,” asks a Matrix-themed photo meme circulating on Facebook, “that you can be against cops murdering citizens and citizens murdering cops at the same time?” To that one might reply that the America in which that was possible might have died in Dallas, Texas in the last few hours. The age of the zero sum game may have arrived with a vengeance.

    Dallas police say four officers have died after at least two snipers opened fire during protests downtown. Seven other officers were wounded.

    Police Chief David O. Brown said police have a suspect cornered in a garage and are negotiating with that person. He says the snipers fired upon officers "ambush style."

    Brown had said three officers were killed, and police issued a tweet later saying a fourth officer had died. Brown says snipers shot from "elevated positions" during a protest over two recent fatal police shootings.

Was terrorism involved? Were the ideas of Ferguson taken to their final, frightening conclusion? While the individual culprits of the shooting have yet to be identified, the factors which have turned the summer of 2016 into a witches' brew were clear for all to see. It is the culmination of decades of identity politics, the fruit of open borders, the outcome of an unwarranted disdain for Islamic extremism, the destruction of everything once held in common. Most of all it is the product of a collapse in legitimacy that has soured the public on nearly every institution: the political parties, the Supreme Court, the presidency, the police and the FBI. Now at the very moment when the public needs to trust someone the question is: whom can you trust?

The security system of America is trust, which manifests itself in legitimacy which in turn makes it possible to govern a huge nation largely on consent. The mistake was to believe it was possible to play the identity card endlessly, to set one against another, to destroy trust -- without consequences.

The public is suddenly face to face with the realization that the solid status quo is a fragile facade that might at any moment dissolve into something unrecognizable.  It's a veneer masking a crumbling structure. Donald and Hillary are not freaks. They are monsters from our Id. If any proof were needed that the discontent sweeping Europe and the United States is all too real, that the can has reached the end of the road, it may be provided in the next few weeks.

Dallas leaves the Narrative with no place to go. What'll it be? Withdraw the police from the streets? Crack down on the usual suspects? Announce this was the work of that Jayvee team, ISIS? Close the borders? Confiscate the guns? Call in the FBI?

Or maybe we can listen to another speech about how hatred is on its last legs? There's nowhere to turn without admitting failure. Or perhaps we can just change the subject and talk about the war on women and Christian hatred? What'll it be? It's always worked before, maybe it'll work again.
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For once the Narrative will find this can't be spun, though it will try, this time in the growing realization that lies may only make it worse, as the former lies have worsened things till now. The roots of discontent run deep. The status quo has been living on borrowed money and borrowed truth. It is now living on borrowed time.

Denial will no longer work. That is the single most important thing to understand.

Update:

Dallas chief of police David Brown described the motive of one attacker. He "wanted to kill white people", especially police., as the Washington Post reports.  It's a sad outcome.  The Narrative truly has nowhere left to go.
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« Reply #759 on: July 08, 2016, 01:28:48 PM »

Lets see.  I am wondering.  "I want to kill white people'.  Hmmm.  Work place violence?  Disgruntled because he is unemployed?  Drugs?  Chemical imbalance?  Did not have father at home?
Due to white privilege ? hmmmm.

How about a *hate crime*?   OK DOJ - how about investigating this as a hate crime?

What about it Obama?

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« Reply #760 on: July 11, 2016, 10:12:23 PM »




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« Reply #761 on: July 12, 2016, 06:10:58 AM »

I like the stain on his tie.

Not an unusual event for me.  Indeed I often joke that that is the purpose of a tie from day one.  To keep one's shirt clean.
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« Reply #762 on: July 14, 2016, 12:05:29 PM »

Pointing out the obvious:

Regarding Hillary's college plan and every other leftist position on every leftist issue, from the Iraq war to minimum wage, healthcare, unemployment, education, and the Obama phones...they don't want to solve the problem; they want to get elected.

"We are the change that we seek."  - Barack Obama, Feb 5, 2008
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/us/politics/05text-obama.html?_r=0
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« Reply #763 on: July 16, 2016, 08:36:31 AM »

The attack was nothing more than "road rage".  He had PSTD.  Nervous breakdown in 2004.  He was off his psych meds.  He is not a terrorist.  He has mental disorder.

So lets get rid of the military and police.  What we really need is an army of psychologists to flood the mentally disturbed ISIS enclaves.  And lawyers to be sure they get their mental care.  Like addiction.  No one is responsible for anything anymore.  Except Republicans.  They are the only evil left on Earth:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3693227/Brother-reveals-violent-drug-crazed-ISIS-soldier-Mohamed-Lahouaiej-Bouhlel-smuggled-84-000-family-Tunisia-DAYS-murdering-84-Nice.html
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« Reply #764 on: July 16, 2016, 09:31:37 AM »


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3691293/Huge-cache-guns-grenades-larger-weapons-inside-bullet-riddled-truck-sparking-fears-Nice-massacre-deadly.html

So did the guns, grenades and "larger weapons" magically appear in the jihad truck?

The attack was nothing more than "road rage".  He had PSTD.  Nervous breakdown in 2004.  He was off his psych meds.  He is not a terrorist.  He has mental disorder.

So lets get rid of the military and police.  What we really need is an army of psychologists to flood the mentally disturbed ISIS enclaves.  And lawyers to be sure they get their mental care.  Like addiction.  No one is responsible for anything anymore.  Except Republicans.  They are the only evil left on Earth:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3693227/Brother-reveals-violent-drug-crazed-ISIS-soldier-Mohamed-Lahouaiej-Bouhlel-smuggled-84-000-family-Tunisia-DAYS-murdering-84-Nice.html
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« Reply #765 on: July 17, 2016, 10:35:55 AM »


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3691293/Huge-cache-guns-grenades-larger-weapons-inside-bullet-riddled-truck-sparking-fears-Nice-massacre-deadly.html

So did the guns, grenades and "larger weapons" magically appear in the jihad truck?

The attack was nothing more than "road rage".  He had PSTD.  Nervous breakdown in 2004.  He was off his psych meds.  He is not a terrorist.  He has mental disorder.

So lets get rid of the military and police.  What we really need is an army of psychologists to flood the mentally disturbed ISIS enclaves.  And lawyers to be sure they get their mental care.  Like addiction.  No one is responsible for anything anymore.  Except Republicans.  They are the only evil left on Earth:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3693227/Brother-reveals-violent-drug-crazed-ISIS-soldier-Mohamed-Lahouaiej-Bouhlel-smuggled-84-000-family-Tunisia-DAYS-murdering-84-Nice.html

Nothing to see here, move along.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3694282/Brought-weapons-s-good-equipment-Terrifying-final-text-messages-Bastille-Day-killer-sent-minutes-murdered-84-people.html

Workplace violence, I guess.
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« Reply #766 on: July 17, 2016, 01:24:06 PM »

Seems to me that being a psycho and being a radical Islamic terrorist are not mutually exclusive conditions.
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« Reply #767 on: July 17, 2016, 02:34:20 PM »

Seems to me that being a psycho and being a radical Islamic terrorist are not mutually exclusive conditions.

No, indeed they are not. Remember, if you die a shaheed, all sins are wiped clean and you proceed directly to paradise.

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« Reply #768 on: July 17, 2016, 06:01:39 PM »

Seems to me that being a psycho and being a radical Islamic terrorist are not mutually exclusive conditions.

No, indeed they are not. Remember, if you die a shaheed, all sins are wiped clean and you proceed directly to paradise.

There is no way to control someone that has made peace with the fact that they will die. The problem is, those people are growing in number.
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« Reply #769 on: July 17, 2016, 09:15:37 PM »

Seems to me that being a psycho and being a radical Islamic terrorist are not mutually exclusive conditions.

No, indeed they are not. Remember, if you die a shaheed, all sins are wiped clean and you proceed directly to paradise.

There is no way to control someone that has made peace with the fact that they will die. The problem is, those people are growing in number.

Keeping them out of your country is a good start.
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« Reply #770 on: July 17, 2016, 10:10:10 PM »

Amen!
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« Reply #771 on: July 18, 2016, 12:37:00 AM »

Seems to me that being a psycho and being a radical Islamic terrorist are not mutually exclusive conditions.

No, indeed they are not. Remember, if you die a shaheed, all sins are wiped clean and you proceed directly to paradise.

There is no way to control someone that has made peace with the fact that they will die. The problem is, those people are growing in number.

Keeping them out of your country is a good start.

Agree 100%.

That still doesn't solve the domestic, multicultural problem. People simply do not ave the same values, and people on both sides of that have ceased valueing life because they know that it's cheap.

What to do with them? It isn't just fringe people either. It is people on both sides of the law.... both actively speaking about how people on the other side of the law should be killed, depending on who they are or what they've done. Violence begets violence. Always has, always will.

Theeconomy is one of the best ways to solve this.... People becoming rich goes a long way in quieting that masses.
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« Reply #772 on: July 25, 2016, 02:23:38 PM »

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/dnc-making-womens-bathroom-lines-long-again
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« Reply #773 on: July 28, 2016, 04:19:32 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/07/27/on-donald-trump-and-the-rule-of-law-contd/
 
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« Reply #774 on: July 30, 2016, 08:50:14 AM »

I have a feeling all the people who really need to read Thomas Sowell regularly don't.  For one thing Hillary, socialism and all your Bernie inspired policy proposals are anti-science and anti-economics, a denial that incentives and disincentives affect behavior and outcomes. 

Socialism for the Uninformed
image: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols2/sowell.jpg

Thomas Sowell
By Thomas Sowell
Published May 31, 2016

Socialism sounds great. It has always sounded great. And it will probably always continue to sound great. It is only when you go beyond rhetoric, and start looking at hard facts, that socialism turns out to be a big disappointment, if not a disaster.

While throngs of young people are cheering loudly for avowed socialist Bernie Sanders, socialism has turned oil-rich Venezuela into a place where there are shortages of everything from toilet paper to beer, where electricity keeps shutting down, and where there are long lines of people hoping to get food, people complaining that they cannot feed their families.

With national income going down, and prices going up under triple-digit inflation in Venezuela, these complaints are by no means frivolous. But it is doubtful if the young people cheering for Bernie Sanders have even heard of such things, whether in Venezuela or in other countries around the world that have turned their economies over to politicians and bureaucrats to run.

The anti-capitalist policies in Venezuela have worked so well that the number of companies in Venezuela is now a fraction of what it once was. That should certainly reduce capitalist "exploitation," shouldn't it?

But people who attribute income inequality to capitalists exploiting workers, as Karl Marx claimed, never seem to get around to testing that belief against facts — such as the fact that none of the Marxist regimes around the world has ever had as high a standard of living for working people as there is in many capitalist countries.

Facts are seldom allowed to contaminate the beautiful vision of the left. What matters to the true believers are the ringing slogans, endlessly repeated.

When Senator Sanders cries, "The system is rigged!" no one asks, "Just what specifically does that mean?" or "What facts do you have to back that up?"

In 2015, the 400 richest people in the world had net losses of $19 billion. If they had rigged the system, surely they could have rigged it better than that.

But the very idea of subjecting their pet notions to the test of hard facts will probably not even occur to those who are cheering for socialism and for other bright ideas of the political left.

How many of the people who are demanding an increase in the minimum wage have ever bothered to check what actually happens when higher minimum wages are imposed? More often they just assume what is assumed by like-minded peers — sometimes known as "everybody," with their assumptions being what "everybody knows."

Back in 1948, when inflation had rendered meaningless the minimum wage established a decade earlier, the unemployment rate among 16-17-year-old black males was under 10 percent. But after the minimum wage was raised repeatedly to keep up with inflation, the unemployment rate for black males that age was never under 30 percent for more than 20 consecutive years, from 1971 through 1994. In many of those years, the unemployment rate for black youngsters that age exceeded 40 percent and, for a couple of years, it exceeded 50 percent.

The damage is even greater than these statistics might suggest. Most low-wage jobs are entry-level jobs that young people move up out of, after acquiring work experience and a track record that makes them eligible for better jobs. But you can't move up the ladder if you don't get on the ladder.

The great promise of socialism is something for nothing. It is one of the signs of today's dumbed-down education that so many college students seem to think that the cost of their education should — and will — be paid by raising taxes on "the rich."

Here again, just a little check of the facts would reveal that higher tax rates on upper-income earners do not automatically translate into more tax revenue coming in to the government. Often high tax rates have led to less revenue than lower tax rates.

In a globalized economy, high tax rates may just lead investors to invest in other countries with lower tax rates. That means that jobs created by those investments will be overseas.

None of this is rocket science. But you do have to stop and think — and that is what too many of our schools and colleges are failing to teach their students to do.

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell053116.php3#oG1t0PdYUa1U8c8c.99
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« Reply #775 on: August 07, 2016, 07:47:12 AM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/an-open-letter-to-ivanka-trump-from-one-daughter-to_us_57a23305e4b0456cb7e146f5?section=&

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feldenkrais_Method

And by the way this same practitioner of the crat religion would not even dream of writing a letter to chelsea
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« Reply #776 on: August 18, 2016, 05:34:48 PM »

Thanks to Hotgas.net:
 
Soros the Elder,  a self professed God like the ancient pharaohs  writes:

"Today's U.S., he writes in his latest book, "The Bubble of American Supremacy," is a "threat to the world," run by a Republican Party that is the devil child of an unholy alliance between "market fundamentalists" and "religious fundamentalists." We have become a "supremacist" nation."

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/oct/04/opinion/oe-ehrenfeld4
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« Reply #777 on: August 25, 2016, 06:28:56 PM »



OK, so If I say most crooks on Wall Street are white am I a bigot?:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gov-lepage-most-drug-dealers-arrested-black-hispanic-130226823.html
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« Reply #778 on: August 26, 2016, 09:43:03 AM »

http://townhall.com/columnists/victordavishanson/2016/08/25/diversity-historys-pathway-to-chaos-n2209576

Diversity: History's Pathway to Chaos
Victor Davis Hanson

Posted: Aug 25, 2016 12:01 AM


Emphasizing diversity has been the pitfall, not the strength, of nations throughout history.

The Roman Empire worked as long as Iberians, Greeks, Jews, Gauls and myriad other African, Asian and European communities spoke Latin, cherished habeas corpus and saw being Roman as preferable to identifying with their own particular tribe. By the fifth century, diversity had won out but would soon prove a fatal liability.

Rome disintegrated when it became unable to assimilate new influxes of northern European tribes. Newcomers had no intention of giving up their Gothic, Hunnish or Vandal identities.

The propaganda of history's multicultural empires -- the Ottoman, the Russian, the Austro-Hungarian, the British and the Soviet -- was never the strength of their diversity. To avoid chaos, their governments bragged about the religious, ideological or royal advantages of unity, not diversity.

Nor did more modern quagmires like Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Rwanda or Yugoslavia boast that they were "diverse." Instead, their strongman leaders naturally claimed that they shared an all-encompassing commonality.

When such coerced harmony failed, these nations suffered the even worse consequences of diversity, as tribes and sects turned murderously upon each other.

For some reason, contemporary America believes that it can reject its uniquely successful melting pot to embrace a historically dangerous and discredited salad-bowl separatism.

Is there any evidence from the past that institutionalizing sects and ethnic grievances would ensure a nation's security, prosperity and freedom?
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America's melting pot is history's sole exception of E pluribus unum inclusivity: a successful multiracial society bound by a common culture, language and values. But this is a historic aberration with a future that is now in doubt.

Some students attending California's Claremont College openly demand roommates of the same race. Racially segregated "safe spaces" are fixtures on college campuses.

We speak casually of bloc voting on the basis of skin color -- as if a lockstep Asian, Latino, black or white vote is a good thing.

We are reverting to the nihilism of the old Confederacy. The South's "one-drop rule" has often been copied to assure employers or universities that one qualifies as a minority.

Some public figures have sought to play up or invent diversity advantages. Sometimes, as in the cases of Elizabeth Warren, Rachel Dolezal and Ward Churchill, the result is farce.

Given our racial fixations, we may soon have to undergo computer scans of our skin colors to rank competing claims of grievance.

How does one mete out the relative reparations for various atrocities of the past, such as slavery, the Holocaust, the American Indian wars, the Asian or Catholic exclusion laws, indentured servitude, or the mid-18th-century belief that the Irish were not quite human?

Sanctuary cities, in the manner of 1850s Richmond or Charleston invoking nullification, now openly declare themselves immune from federal law. Does that defiance ensure every city the right to ignore whatever federal laws it finds inconvenient, from the filing of 1040s to voting laws?

The diversity industry hinges on U.S. citizens still envisioning a shrinking white population as the "majority." Yet "white" is now not always easily definable, given intermarriage and constructed identities.

In California, those who check "white" on Orwellian racial boxes are now a minority. Will white Californians soon nightmarishly declare themselves aggrieved minorities and thus demand affirmative action, encourage Viking-like names such as Ragnar or Odin, insert umlauts and diereses into their names to hype their European bona fides, seek segregated European-American dorms and set up "Caucasian Studies" programs at universities?

Women now graduate from college at a higher rate than men. Will there be a male effort to ensure affirmative action for college admissions and graduation rates?

If the white vote reaches 70 percent for a particular candidate, is that really such a good thing, as it was considered to be when President Obama was praised for capturing 95 percent of the black vote?

It is time to step back from the apartheid brink.

Even onetime diversity advocate Oprah Winfrey has had second thoughts about the lack of commonality in America. She recently vowed to quit using the word "diversity" and now prefers "inclusion."

A Latino-American undergraduate who is a student of Shakespeare is not "culturally appropriating" anyone's white-European legacy, but instead seeking transcendence of ideas and a common humanity.

Asian-Americans are not "overrepresented" at premier campuses. Their high-profile presence should be praised as a model, not punished as aberrant by number-crunching bureaucrats.

African-Americans who excel in physics and engineering are not "acting white" but finding the proper pathways for their natural talents.

Being one-half Southeast Asian or three-quarters white is not the touchstone to one's essence and is irrelevant to one's character and conduct.

No one is impinging on anyone's culture when blacks dye their hair blond, or when blondes prefer to wear cornrow braids.

Campuses desperately need unity czars, not diversity czars.

Otherwise, we will end up as 50 separate and rival nations -- just like other failed states in history whose diverse tribes and races destroyed themselves in a Hobbesian dog-eat-dog war with one another.
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« Reply #779 on: August 29, 2016, 03:10:15 PM »

Pure, hypocritical nonsense, published for the ages.

The secret of the long climb after 1982 was the economic plunge that preceded it. By the end of 1982 the U.S. economy was deeply depressed, with the worst unemployment rate since the Great Depression. So there was plenty of room to grow before the economy returned to anything like full employment.

The depressed economy in 1982 also explains ''Morning in America,'' the economic boom of 1983 and 1984. You see, rapid growth is normal when an economy is bouncing back from a deep slump.


   - Nobel winning economist Paul Krugman
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/11/opinion/an-economic-legend.html?_r=0

The recovery was robust because the policy change was bold and pro-growth.

This is exactly what DIDN'T happen under Obama.  Why not?  TARP, QE, cash for clunkers, Solyndra and 'don't do stupid shit' is not a bold, pro-growth economic policy. More like a walk to a grave.
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« Reply #780 on: August 31, 2016, 10:45:09 AM »

HOw ironic and misleading that Soros uses the name "Open society" for the name of one of his political propaganda organizations.  He means one government controlled by the likes of him and his business colleagues over the rest of us.  Hardly open when he is behind the scenes agitating etc:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/31/report-george-soros-exploits-catholic-useful-idiots/

Soros would have been the poster boy for Hitler. 
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« Reply #781 on: September 06, 2016, 11:57:24 AM »

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/439714/virtue-signaling-liberals-condemn-privilege-while-enjoying-privilege

"The Reformation — and Counter Reformation — mostly ended the selling of penances. Only something similar will end our pathetic version, perhaps when the public tunes out at the tired boilerplate of “racist,” “sexist,” and “nativist”; or when we quit sending money to the “safe space,” “trigger warning,” “micro-aggression” Ivy League; or we flip the channel when NFL gladiators playact as robed philosophers; or we laugh off celebrity activists as the new John D. Rockefellers tossing out a few of their shiny new dimes."

As long as the LEFT can keep dipping into taxpayer pockets and buying votes with wealth distribution I don't see any Reformation or Counter Reformation anytime soon.  If ever.  Till everything collapses.

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« Reply #782 on: September 07, 2016, 03:58:44 PM »

A while ago, there was a discussion somewhere here about the accumulated wealth of Chavez, Sanders, Clinton, et al., whom are "magnates" of the "people."

I promised GM a list on this a while ago, but here is some of what I have come up with. Throwing it here, because I'm not sure where to put it. I'll admit that I have limited the list to Democrats, due to the fact that Republicans operate under a different philosophy and don't claim to be champions of the poor and oppressed. It bears mentioning, that several politicians, David Koch and Michael Bloomberg for example, either lean heavily left on social issues (as with the former) or in the latter case, started as a Democrat, and registered as a Republican in a traditionally blue state, just to be able to run, therefore, I have also included several RINOs and the sort.

Hillary Clinton    $31.3-111 million - Methodist

John Kerry            $193 million - Catholic

Al Gore            $100 million - Baptist

Ted Kennedy    $163 million - Catholic

Nelson Rockefeller    $1 billion (deceased, Republican, stated as such on Wikipedia, the idea of any Rockefellers being considered Republican is a joke, but their influence cannot be left out of the discussion and they are widely considered liberals). In fact, Jay Rockefeller will be listed shortly as a Democrat. - Baptist (however they are listed on the list of Jewish Billionaires site)

Mark Dayton    Minnesota       $1.6 billion - Presbyterian

Jared Polis         Colorado          $388 million - Jewish

Mark Warner                               $243 million - Presbyterian

Nancy Pelosi                               $29 million - 101 million - stated wealth come from "consulting," (for what?) and public relations.  - Catholic

Jon Corzine        New Jersey         $300 million - former Goldman Sachs CEO Comey worked for HSBC, HSBC is connected to the Clinton Foundation (James Comey is a board member of the Clinton Foundation) through a number of initiatives, including its “Building the Corporate Coalition,” “Scaling Rainwater Harvesting for 21st Century Mexico,” “Investing in Management and Leadership in Vietnam,” and other projects. Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Morgan Stanley, and a number of transnational corporations, also participate. Clinton has given speeches at Goldman Sachs, refused to release the transcripts of speech. http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/04/12/hillary-clinton-goldman-sachs-why-it-matters/ He was charged by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in connection with MF Global's bankruptcy, due to his mismanagement, in 2011. - United Church of Christ

Michael Bloomberg    $41.2 billion -  Banking industry - A Democrat before seeking elective office, Mayor of New York City - Jewish

David Koch                 $44.2 billion - Republican/libertarian, but is an admitted social liberal, supporting every hot topic there is, including gay marriage, stem cell research, etc. - Donate to Catholic schools, many think are Jewish. Religion maintained private

Michael McCaul            $294 million - NOTED Republican, 2nd wealthiest member of Congress,  connected to Clear Channel Communications (as is the bush family), Bush connections to Clear Channel pushing war - https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2003/04/medi-a17.html (there is a dead link in the article that was supposed to state where Bush made his money), which Clinton also endorsed "On October 11, 2002, Clinton voted in favor of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq," but a pattern is there, that perhaps all of the politicians are in bed together. An interesting point would be, how did Clinton manage to enrich herself from it? "Campaign 2016: Hillary Clinton Pitched Iraq As 'A Business Opportunity' For US Corporations" http://www.ibtimes.com/campaign-2016-hillary-clinton-pitched-iraq-business-opportunity-us-corporations-2121999
McCaul also voted in favor of the war "Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006) http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Michael_McCaul.htm
Point being, this guy is probably about as Republican as anyone, but it is still interesting to see what business ties (making money off of conflict right along with the Democrats) they all have in common (another subject altogether), getting back to Democrats... - Catholic


Rep. John Delaney    Democratic    Maryland    $111.92 million - Made money off of the healthcare and banking industries - Catholic

Sen. Jay Rockefeller    Democratic    West Virginia    $108.05 million -     The name speaks for itself as far as involvement in finance and politics goes - Presbyterian - Jewish

Sen. Richard Blumenthal    Democratic    Connecticut    $62.06 million - 80.1million - married to the daughter of Peter L. Malkin, and who's wife's brother has net worth of some $10 billion -  Jewish.

Rep. Scott Peters    Democratic    California    $45.04 million - "He served as an economist on the staff of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), then earned a law degree from the New York University School of Law. Peters served as a deputy city attorney in San Diego from 1991 to 1996. Prior to his election to the City Council, Peters worked as an attorney in private practice." How one amasses that much money in being a public servant and a lawyer, is beyond me. -Lutheran

Sen. Dianne Feinstein    Democratic    California    $43.72 - 47.2 million - but is married to Richard Blum who is worth perhaps more than a $1 billion http://www.sanjoseinside.com/2015/07/16/sen-dianne-feinsteins-husband-richard-blum-grows-fortune-on-the-ruins-of-the-american-dream/ , much of which accumulated to the way his wife votes. At the age of 23 in 1958, Blum, who is currently 81, held a job working for Sutro & Co., becoming a partner 7 years later. In 1975, he formed his own business, Blum Capital, five years later, marrying Pelosi, who at the time was mayor of San Francisco. When attempting track down Blum's worth in 1980, it is difficult to peg. What is clear; however, is that there has been no shortage of scandals between the two, and that Blum has run his own business as well as chairing CBRE, collectively worth billions, and in no uncertain terms, has used his wife's position to his great advantage. ODDLY, Goldman Sachs pops up here as well. It's probably a coincidence. http://www.occupy.com/article/exposed-senator-dianne-feinsteins-husband-selling-post-offices-friends#sthash.2bZFK4Ff.dpbs
http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/PROFILE-Richard-Blum-The-man-behind-URS-next-2617380.php -Jewish

Rep. Suzan DelBene    Democratic    Washington    $37.89 million - self made, Microsoft. -     Episcopalian

Rep. Chellie Pingree    Democratic    Maine    $34.47 million - Pingree shot up the list this year after her marriage to hedge fund manager Donald Sussman. Sussman has been described as a billionaire by some sources. Sussman himself has donated more than 10 million, the majority to Democrats, 103K to Republicans http://influenceexplorer.com/individual/donald-sussman/30d5a1a570e544e0ace2ae3e08ce332e - Lutheran-Jewish

Rep. Alan Grayson    Democratic    Florida    $26.18 million - Grayson worked as a law clerk at the Colorado Supreme Court in 1983, and at the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals from 1984 to 1985, where he worked with two judges who later joined the U.S. Supreme Court: Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Antonin Scalia. He was an associate at the Washington, D.C. firm of Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson for five years, where he specialized in contract law. In 1991 he founded the law firm Grayson & Kubli, which concentrated on government contract law. - - Jewish

Rep. Joseph Kennedy III    Democratic    Massachusetts    $20 million - Catholic

Sen. Claire McCaskill    Democratic    Missouri    $18.38 million - Insurance and law - Catholic

Sen. Tom Harkin    Democratic    Iowa    $11.85 million - Military, lawyer, politics - Catholic

Rep. Brad Schneider    Democratic    Illinois    $11.71 million - Business and Insurance -Jewish

Rep. Lloyd Doggett    Democratic    Texas    $11.51 million - Not unlike Sanders, he has only ever worked in politics, left school roughly 1970, since 1973 has been a politician ever since. - Methodist

Rep. Jim Cooper    Democratic    Tennessee    $11.51 million - After getting his law degree, he spent two years working for the law firm Waller, Lansden, Dortch and Davis in Nashville, then ran for Congress in 1982 -Episcopalian

Rep. Nita M. Lowey    Democratic    New York    $11.48 million - Life long career in government and public service - Jewish

Sen. Kay Hagan    Democratic    North Carolina    $9.12 million - Law, Finance and since 1999, politics    -Presbyterian

Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney    Democratic    New York    $7.73 million - she worked as a teacher and an administrator for the New York City Board of Education, In 1977, she obtained a job working for the New York State Legislature and held senior staff positions in both the State Assembly and the State Senate. She's basically, since being a teacher, worked in government since 1977.     -Presbyterian

Sen. Frank Lautenberg (deceased 2013) Democrat New Jersey $56.9 million - Succeeded by his crony, Jon Corzine (mentioned above), Lautenberg entered office at the age of 58, and after founding ADP (one of the most used payroll services in the country). Though little is clear about any wrongdoing by Lautenberg, he was very much friends and working partners with Corzine, who has so much dirt on him, that even Liberal New Jerseyans, hate him. - Jewish

Digging into this, there are several relationships that are uncovered, for example, Goldman Sachs, who is primarily run by Democrats, many of whom, go on to become politicians, such as; Timothy Geithner - United States Secretary of the Treasury - up to $6 million per CNN, Bradley Abelow, Treasurer and Chief of Staff to Jon Corzine (his name just keeps coming up), Josh Bolton - Whitehouse Chief of Staff under G.W. Bush, William C. Dudley -  president of Federal Reserve Bank of New York (who was preceded by Geithner by the way), Rahm Emanuel - Mayor of Chicago (who was preceded by Josh Bolton - listed just previous to this, with Emanual also serving as WH Chief of Staff previously), Judd Gregg (who's father also was governor of the same state)- Former New Hampshire governor and senator (listed as a Republican, but nominated by Obama to serve as Secretary of Commerce), Jim Himes - sitting Democratic Representative for Connecticut (net worth 4.5 million), Arthur Levitt (deceased 2001) - Chairman of the United States Securities and Exchange Commission under Bill Clinton, Evan McMullin - Independent Candidate for US President 2016 (former chief policy director for the House Republican Conference in the U.S. House of Representatives, former CIA operations officer), Henry Paulson -  United States Secretary of the Treasury (preceded Geithner and was preceded by Corzine), Robert Rubin - Chairperson for the Council on Foreign Relations (which helps sitting politicians decide how they're going to make more money in foreign matters).

When seeing just the amount of interaction between politics and Goldman Sachs, there's no wonder why the banks weren't allowed to fail.


In fairness, even Trump's name come up in this with Stephen Bannon, a former Goldman Sachs employee being the former executive officer of Breitbart News and the CEO of Trump's presidential campaign, not to mention, he is the co-founder and executive chairman of the Government Accountability Institute (which touts itself to be a is a conservative nonprofit investigative research organization).... we'll just sit back while they all scratch each others backs. Bannon isn't the only one from Goldman Sachs to jump on board with Trump either. Steve Mnuchin joived even before Bannon did. http://fortune.com/2016/08/17/donald-trump-bannon-mnuchin-goldman/

Clinton connection to Goldman Sachs - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3584863/Chelsea-Clinton-s-husband-Marc-colleagues-Goldman-Sachs-shutter-25million-hedge-fund-losing-nearly-investors-money-good-thing-10million-apartment.html
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« Reply #783 on: September 19, 2016, 07:23:32 AM »

What is this supposed to prove?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1810267/sadiq-khan-throws-first-ball-at-mets-baseball-game-during-the-london-mayors-whirlwind-visit-to-new-york/
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« Reply #784 on: September 19, 2016, 09:28:09 AM »


It's supposed to prove that Arabs can assimilate into western countries and are pro western culture. I remain unconvinced.

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« Reply #785 on: September 19, 2016, 01:58:35 PM »

Tiny nitpick: If I am not mistaken, he is of Pakistani descent, not Arab.
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