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DBMA Martial Arts Forum => Martial Arts Topics => Topic started by: Crafty_Dog on September 01, 2008, 06:01:51 PM
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Woof All:
Please help me by bringing good knife attack and/or knife wound clips to my attention, either by posting here or by emailing them to me.
Thank you,
Guro Crafty
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Guro,
I don't know if this counts as attack but it does show how a attack goes down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibGyGG3X4PI
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Woof Maxx:
Perhaps it is sheer vanity on my part, but ever since DLO 1 came out I've been seeing a lot of demonstrations of Prison Sewing Machine attacks :wink: This demonstration is well done, but it is a demonstration, not the actual thing- which is what I am looking for here.
That said, it is giving me a starting point :-)
TAC,
CD
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Here is a pretty brutal one that ends with the help of store clerks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjKU0p9JZw
Here is another
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fePrku5ifHg&feature=related
This one starts off as a jumping and then one of the shitheads pulls a knife and sticks the guy several times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlb6qGyblR8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8NxM11OXX4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V1RrhlWOws&feature=related
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Only Maxx has any offerings in response to my request for help?
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Here is a pretty brutal one that ends with the help of store clerks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjKU0p9JZw
Here is another
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fePrku5ifHg&feature=related
This one starts off as a jumping and then one of the shitheads pulls a knife and sticks the guy several times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlb6qGyblR8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8NxM11OXX4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V1RrhlWOws&feature=related
Nice finds Maxx.
One thing we can say, thank goodness none of those people actually knew how to use a knife.
Too bad for that Mom that was killed trying to stop the car jacking to save her baby.
Breaks my heart when I hear things like that.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDa1BCJPHvg
Chuck would have been proud: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQez4jQO81c&feature=related
Cops VS the knife: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc2fyEa_RkA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR9BtjZawqY
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One thing we can take away from these and other clips is that it is never a solitary attack, all knife attacks involve multiple stabbing attacks, typically to the same target.
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Nice finds Maxx.
One thing we can say, thank goodness none of those people actually knew how to use a knife.
Too bad for that Mom that was killed trying to stop the car jacking to save her baby.
Breaks my heart when I hear things like that.
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I don't care if they know how to use it or not. Someone swinging a knife at me has a black belt!!
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Nice finds Maxx.
One thing we can say, thank goodness none of those people actually knew how to use a knife.
Too bad for that Mom that was killed trying to stop the car jacking to save her baby.
Breaks my heart when I hear things like that.
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I don't care if they know how to use it or not. Someone swinging a knife at me has a black belt!!
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LOL, you got that right !
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Crafty,
Not sure what your exact goal is but I know Paladin Press put out a book called Knife Fighting Techniques From Folsom Prison by Don Pentecoste. In it there are some illustrations describing techniques similar to the sewing machine attack. There are also a ton of machete attacks on youtube. If this is also useful to you let me know and I'll fish around and post them.
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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The Pentecost book is a must read. I had a two hour conversation with him once that changed how I see certain things.
I would love to see the machete clips here too- thank you.
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Crafty,
Not quite a machete. How about a hammer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p4np9zJNtQ
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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Here is a machete attack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45570_dRBCA&feature=related
Here are some knife attacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjKU0p9JZw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQez4jQO81c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc2fyEa_RkA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fePrku5ifHg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDa1BCJPHvg&feature=related
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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Thank you.
Please keep them coming folks!
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More machete clips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNH5-hEWkrQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D0XNEMwlpg
Here's a knife attack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DBr2DHk0hU&feature=related
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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Prison fight featuring shanks, bedpan shields, chair attacks, and high flying karate style jump kicks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqRyvQAgFFY&feature=related
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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The Pentecost book is a must read. I had a two hour conversation with him once that changed how I see certain things.
It is a good book. Crafty, if you have time, could you elaborate on your comment "... that changed how I see certain things."
james
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Prison fight featuring shanks, bedpan shields, chair attacks, and high flying karate style jump kicks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqRyvQAgFFY&feature=related
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
If multiple attacker clips teach us one thing it is the crucial and vital importance of remaining standing and how underestimated and effective the old "grab his shirt and pull him down" move truly is.
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Situational awareness is essential notice the guard closest to the camera interacting with an inmate palming a shank he didn't even notice :-o
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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This one starts off as a jumping and then one of the shitheads pulls a knife and sticks the guy several times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlb6qGyblR8&feature=related
This case attracted a good deal of public attention in the UK but that video looks like it's been edited. From memory: In the full clip the guy with the knife also stabs the second victim once (looked like it was the groin/inner thigh). He died soon after. The first victim survived the mulitple stabbings.
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By the way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibGyGG3X4PI
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Liveleak.com has some videos with knife attacks. Real stuff, might be helpful.
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And you would be helpful if you posted URLs of particularly interesting ones here :-D
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anyone know how to post URL's.
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Mr. Crafty hows this for a knife wound. Uh...man I'm not hungry anymore!
http://poetry.rotten.com/myanmar-hackjob/ :-o
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http://poetry.rotten.com/myanmar-hackjob/
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Uh....Ouch!
http://poetry.rotten.com/knife-fight/index1.html :oops:
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Here's a real interesting one. I first saw it on tv and was unable to record it. The interesting thing about it are the strategies the victim uses to defend himself. It is exactly what I teach my students.
1) Run when possible & practical
2) If you cant run put a barrier between you and your assailant
3) Get a equalizer or better as soon as you can safely
4) Empty hand skills are a last resort
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRWz5t2y3_Q
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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Here's a real interesting knife fight. Apparently it takes place in a South American prison. It is a knife fight not an ambush type assault.
http://www.viddler.com/explore/kiuma/videos/39/
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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Here's a real interesting knife fight. Apparently it takes place in a South American prison. It is a knife fight not an ambush type assault.
http://www.viddler.com/explore/kiuma/videos/39/
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
Great find, thanks.
Are they allowed to have dogs in prison??
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Ronin,
In an episode of Locked Up Abroad they showed a Venezuelan prison where the inmates had guns :-o
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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I am reminded of a saying I heard often in Mexico:
"Todo es prohibido, todo es posible." ("Everything is prohibited. Everything is possible")
During a three day stay in a Mexican prison in Chiapas (the state that borders Guatemala) I was not there long enough to see a lot, but had the sense of tremendous , , , flexibility in the application of rules. Furthermore, I work regularly with a Mexican prison SWAT type team in the state of Mexico (see the clip on our multimedia page of the day when I met them). I remember one conversation after I had shown our DLO Dogcatcher defense against the prison sewing machine. I was asked about reverse grip attacks. As the interaction continued, I realized that they were not talking about an icepick type of attack, but a reverse grip attack with the blade laying along the forearm. This tends to be a slashing attack instead of a thrusting attack which suprised me quite a bit. Thinking in American terms I asked how the cons made good edges. "Oh, we're not talking about shanks made here in the prison they explained, but real knives that get in through corruption" they explained.
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Good find, Tony. Alot to notice there....
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Maija,
Please comment on what you've noticed.
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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Tony,
This is what struck me from watching the video -
Both parties were armed and ready, so neither closes.
Red plays low to keep the most distance between him and black - red is playing defense (fears black?).
Strikes thrown are most, if not all slashes, not pokes (video quality makes it hard to see for sure).
Red throws many cuts. Black extends only 3 times, and only when he thinks he has a target.
Black plays blade close to his body, using weight shift and shuffle to stay out of range.
Each of black's cuts are thrown when red is extended.
Black taunts red to strike by posturing.
This clip shows well that you are open whenever you extend to cut.
Black has higher skill than red.
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I wonder if there werent some rules to this fight. I noticed no attacks to the face. The taller fighter had many opportunities to thrust at his opponents face. Also there was no follow up once there was a clear winner. In a shanking style attack it's usually to kill ones opponent. This was clearly a duel. To monday morning quarter back it I think reds biggest mistake was getting caught flat footed and unable to use his footwork to avoid blacks attack. Black clearly was more aggresive. Red used some fakes and did some back pedaling ultimately getting caught while deepening his stance. I think reds lack of commitment was his downfall.
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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The fact that this was a duel clearly changes the dynamic of the interaction from that of a 'shanking', where I am assuming the object of the attack is presumed unarmed and unaware. Also in this case it seems that neither party wanted to die, just win - in this case judged by red conceding - which for me, makes this clip particularly interesting.
Red perhaps tried to fake, but "lack of commitment" ? Only because black gave him no opening to go for, as far as I could see.
Also seems like the couple times black actually went for a cut, they were all aimed high (face, upper body). The second time red really had to get his head out of the way which caused the backpedaling to accelerate. The deepening of his stance and the throwing out of a slash to gain range were indeed his ultimate downfall. He left his side totally open by extending forward whilst black was timing him and ready to lunge.
What I'm thinking about as a hypothetical exercise, is if in red's shoes, as it were, how would you fight black?
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Maija,
It seemed to me that all the upper body targeting done by both parties where below the neck towards the upper chest. In one exchange in the middle of the fight blacks head is out of the frame. There you'll see the targeting of the upper chest pretty clearly. Early in the fight red made an attack to blacks leg. It fell short. It was either a fake or just lacked commitment. In fact several swipes fell short. This is probably due to fear of the counter cut. Blacks final cut showed definite commitment. I believe had the leg shot made contact it would have changed the momentum of the fight. By possibly limiting blacks mobility or maybe causing him to crane forward exposing his face to attacks. Black made several horizontal slashes towards reds upper body. The big one where he back pedaled was chest level just above the nipples. I think he(black) could have just as easily targeted the face. In the final exchange red got stuck in too low of a stance. He just wasn't in a good position to side step. Had he been more mobile he could have side stepped and thrust toward the face. I believe thrusting to the face after blacks horizontal swipes may have made a difference. I still think they where purposely avoiding face shots. This may may be an initiation ritual or a matter of honor. It seems like it was to the first definitive cut due to the lack of a finishing move after the big cut. They may be avoiding the face to avoid being too obvious to the authorities :roll: We will never know for sure. Regardless it seems both guys had some idea of what they where doing.
My 2 cents
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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Great points Tony, thanks! 8-)
Like you said it is Monday morning quarterbacking, but I think it is useful to watch others spar and fight to see the weaknesses and strengths of different tactics and techniques.
Like you said, quote ".... it seems both guys had some idea of what they where doing", which for me made it a very interesting clip to watch.
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Maija,
What would you have done if you where red :evil:
Tony Torre
Miami arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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Here's some more knife clips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3HR2O2m068&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDa1BCJPHvg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MRh580exNo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ZnJvtNVcQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ZnJvtNVcQ
Another machete incident.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8pCcdHLV6A&feature=related
A woman shooting a crook.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqdh997mPBA&feature=related
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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Tony: 'Maija, What would you have done if you where red'?
HA HA HA ..... Now that would be telling ....
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Not quite a knife fight but very interesting none the less.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o8Eudy4Bdw
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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more knife attacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8NxM11OXX4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?&next_url=/watch%3Fv%3DrDa1BCJPHvg%26feature%3Drelated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR9BtjZawqY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1WZIixufXQ&feature=related
Movie knife fights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaIq234nL04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuxpSSJBwW0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96pRiS4f_fg&feature=related
My favorite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KC4IXTCMOw
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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There's been lots of knife attack clips in the History Channel show Gangland. The episode on the Aryan Brotherhood has lots of stabbing videos, since so much of the gang's influence is inside prisons. Some old ex member had some interesting things to say about the psychology of stabbing a person. The episode on the Hell's Angels also showed some knife and melee weapon (tools etc) fights.
Aryan Brotherhood episode (one clip of five):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S4HpuBUEAA
Hell's Angels clip (one of five):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QLs_XOmJ_g
Each episode is about a different gang, and I'm sure there's more knife violence in some of the other ones, I just can't remember which ones.
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Tony,
Your 1st clip illustrates a point that Sonny often made - "Watch out for the other one...."
In the Grandfathers Speak interview he describes an altercation he was involved in. You'll notice he describes targeting both assailants, the one in front of him and the one he knew would be behind him.
And thanks for the other clips ... Michael Jackson is indeed a badass :-D :lol:
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Dopplegangster,
That was some interesting stuff.
Maija,
You're DA BOMB! :-D
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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My all time favorite!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01NHcTM5IA4&feature=PlayList&p=58DBEE50512D9235&playnext=1&index=70
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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Prison fights sticks in both and possibly a sword in the first :-o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4cNlkoLVyw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcQe5KiZWtE&feature=related
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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Dont now if anyone of them is posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1WZIixufXQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR9BtjZawqY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG2Xxl3UVcY&feature=related
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A pretty decent cinematic representation of the Knife fighting method popularized by the Argentine gauchos. Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkMvrU_gMcI
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424052702303684004577509512026770138-lMyQjAxMTAyMDEwNTExNDUyWj.html?mod=wsj_valettop_email
July 11, 2012, 10:30 p.m. ET
A Cut Above: In These Knife Fights, Only Pride Gets Wounded
Competitors Try to Best Each Other in Slicing Water Bottles, Tennis Balls; Bisecting a Grape
By TIMOTHY W. MARTIN
At this year's World Cutting Championships, a group of dedicated blade enthusiasts gathered to celebrate their sport -- slaying water bottles, tennis balls, and 2x4s -- in a contest for 2012's top "knifelete." WSJ'S Timothy Martin reports.
ATLANTA—Donavon Phillips windmilled his arms. He hopped a few times to get the blood flowing in his legs. A light sweat formed under his black-and-red jersey—just the right dew.
"You can't go into this cold, because it's an all-out sport," said Mr. Phillips, pulling his right arm across his chest.
He was warming up for a cutthroat event: the 10th annual World Championship Cutting Competition.
It takes razor-sharp focus to be a cutting champ, along with a blade that resembles a bulkier, sharper version of a kitchen meat cleaver. Mr. Phillips is one of a few who have helped make a sport out of demonstrating they can swiftly, flawlessly slice through a dozen water bottles or chop a rolling tennis ball in half.
Having won the national title in May, he is a favorite on the cutting circuit.
The bearish, 32-year-old auto technician from Morton, Miss., who played offensive line on his high-school football team, started cutting six years ago, right around the time Americans began buying expensive kitchen cutlery with brand names like Wüsthof and marveling as celebrity chefs and TV cooking shows made knife wizardry cool.
More recently, Mr. Phillips has dedicated himself to an hourlong training session each week using a shiny, rectangular 15-inch knife he made himself. He calls it "Edge of the Delta," in honor of his Mississippi roots. He spends hours scrutinizing videos of the greats, such as Dan Keffeler, famous for splitting a two-by-four in 1.4 seconds. He has a sponsorship from Spyderco Knives, a Golden, Colo., company that prides itself on "radical innovations to the knife culture" like a one-hand blade opening and ergonomic design.
"With basketball, everybody wanted to 'Be Like Mike,' " said Perry Reynolds, a vice president with International Housewares Association, an industry group, referencing the iconic Gatorade commercial featuring basketball great Michael Jordan. "Now we've got people wanting to be like some famous chef."
The skills exhibited by Mr. Phillips and others mirror the cutting feats seen on late-night TV ads that pitched Ginsu Knives, whose co-founder, Barry Becher, died last month.
Cutting events were once military-style affairs. Participants wore camouflage. Competitions were limited to custom knife makers and featured a series of challenges such as stabbing a soda can—a move meant to showcase how well the blades could jab, sever and stick. Winners would then sell their handmade blades, or replicas of them, for big bucks.
In 2006, a group of "cutters" formed BladeSports International Inc. and started to formalize the obscure sport. They banned camouflage and military boots and opened up the competition to all comers, who were allowed to use mass-produced blades.
To demonstrate the versatility of the knife as a tool, the group designed multistage courses featuring a dozen or more cutting challenges. They dictated dimensions: Knives had to be no longer than 15 inches overall, with no more than 10 inches of blade.
"We don't do anything threatening. We have no pointing. We don't stick. We don't do anything stabbing," said Warren Osborne, a founding member of BladeSports and a retired cutter. He thrusts his arm forward, to illustrate.
The group prescribed several "finesse" cuts like slicing a grape in half or dicing a cardboard paper towel roll into as many slivers as possible, the way a chef slices an onion. Cutters were to be judged on time and accuracy. A new wave of safety rules required eye gear and adding foot-fault penalties to ensure people would stand a safe distance away.
At the World Championship Cutting Competition, held last month in a suburban Atlanta parking lot, Gary Bond, a 48-year-old maintenance worker who named his knife "Bruiser," was among the strongest contenders to knock out Mr. Phillips.
Another was Ted Ott, a bespectacled, 59-year-old electrician from Elgin, Texas, and a former world champion cutter. Contenders came from the U.S., United Kingdom, and the Netherlands.
Awaiting his turn, Mr. Ott carefully studied the footwork of other competitors, counting the number of steps required between each station. "It's three seconds a cut. That's what you need to average to win a world championship," said Mr. Ott, who makes and markets his own knives.
Potential points are allotted for each cut, based on the difficulty. Missing on a particular cut means the points aren't accrued. The final point total is then subtracted from a time score, and the lowest number wins.
After his turn through the 13-station course, Mr. Ott had the score to beat: 53.79 points, after breezing through in just under 47 seconds.
"Don't overthink it, Donavon," Mr. Phillips told himself. Mr. Phillips had been favored last year to win, but lost to Mr. Bond.
Unusually nimble for someone 6-feet-4, 370 pounds, Mr. Phillips entered the course, sporting a Spyderco T-shirt, and took a few practice swings, just like Derek Jeter might before heading to home plate. A hush passed over the crowd of 250 strong.
He unsheathed "Edge of the Delta" and raised his arm. One quick flash, and a thick cardboard tube was destroyed. The crowd, piled onto portable aluminum bleachers and leaning up against pickup trucks, let out a collective roar.
Mr. Phillips then sliced a line of 10 water bottles in half. Water gushed onto the pavement and halves of clear plastic bottles fell to the ground. He next bisected an inch-thick rope, then set his sights on three water bottles, stacked about 6 inches apart, which he had to cut vertically.
He split open the first bottle, exploding the white plastic top. But the force from the water and the knife knocked over the remaining two bottles. With that, his world-championship hopes were dashed.
Mr. Ott came in first. Mr. Phillips finished in second place with 61.34 points and Mr. Bond's 76.27 points were good enough for third.
Mr. Ott was gracious as he held the world title trophy: a shieldlike belt buckle intricately engraved with the words "BLADE Show."
"I stole this from him," he said, pointing toward Mr. Phillips.
Write to Timothy W. Martin at timothy.martin@wsj.com
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Here's a real life knife fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBQsHy3Rkjk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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Interesting find.
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Here's a real life knife fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBQsHy3Rkjk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
Props. Thank you!
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A machete attack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkIpw8kZp8Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Tony Torre
Miami Arnis Group
www.miamiarnisgroup.com
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http://media2.wtnh.com/_local/docume...oct-3-2012.pdf
Quote:
Witnesses gave consistent accounts as to what happened prior to. during, and after theinc ident. They alleged that DeAndre Felton and the 13-year-old male had been with them, as a group, at the Westfield Shopping Town Plaza (Meriden Square) on Lewis Avenue prior to the incident. When the mall closed, the group gathered in the parking lot of the mall, where DeAndre and the 13 year old, whom the witnesses claimed were both "high," made statements to the effect that they wanted to "look for trouble" and "beat
someone up." According to the witnesses, the group walked across Lewis Avenue and entered the north parking lot of Midstate Medical Center. As they began to exit through the pedestrian access gate leading to Kensington Avenue, Felton and the 13 year old suddenly broke away from the group and began running east along Kensington Avenue, where they jumped a male from behind and began assaulting him. The witnesses disclaimed any prior knowledge that this attack was going to take place. Moments later, Felton and the 13 year old ran back to the group, where they collapsed from stab wounds. The other male involved in the incident ran away in the opposite direction. Based upon the investigative efforts of responding officers and detectives, the male who was attacked from behind was identified and located. He willingly cooperated with police and rendered a statement that was consistent with eyewitness accounts. He surrendered the pocketknife that he used in the incident, as well as other evidentiary items. He was not aware that he had inflicted a mortal injury to one of his attackers. He became visibly shaken and upset when he learned that DeAndre Felton had died. The
identity of this male is not being released at this time as the investigation is continuing.
News story
http://www.courant.com/community/mer...,6862690.story
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I'm not sure if this belongs on this thread or on the politics thread - London seems to be taking a sharp turn towards the dark ages these days.
'No, don't do it': Cries of teen, 16, begging for his life before being stabbed to death in posh London street by gang armed with knives and swords
A 16-year-old boy was heard screaming for his life before he was fatally stabbed by a gang armed with knives and swords, residents of a well-heeled area of London said today. The teenager, named locally as Hani Abou El-Kheir, is said to have cried 'don't do it' as he was attacked after tripping while fleeing the gang. He was stabbed in Pimlico, central London, shortly before 7pm yesterday evening and taken to a nearby hospital, but he died from his injuries two hours later.
Shocked residents living close to the scene on Lupus Street, claimed today that a gang of black and white teenagers were seen carrying out the attack.
Other witnesses have claimed that the victim's mother, named by locals as Pauline Hickey, rushed to the scene and was seen crying as she was kept behind a police cordon. She is said to have watched as paramedics battled to save her son. He is the first teenager to be murdered in London this year. A total of eight teenagers were murdered in London last year, according to Metropolitan Police figures, including six stabbings, one who died from serious head injuries and one teenager who was strangled.
Despite the fact that some of the houses on one side of the street sell for an average of £500,000 the other side of the street is home to a 1970s estate.
Mahmoud Abosiad visited the family today and said: 'He was a lovely boy. He did not deserve to end up on a slab. His mother, who is said to live 100 yards from the scene, did not want to comment today but is said to be 'broken-hearted'. Neighbours this afternoon described the victim as a 'nice boy, polite'.Rebecca Bartholomew, who lives a few doors down from Hani and his mother, said: 'He always seemed like a nice boy, polite.'
We never had any trouble. He had friends his own age and whether they were in trouble I don't know. 'His mum is friendly too. They would say hello when we saw them.' Mohammed Alzubaidi, 49, said that a friend of his witnessed the attack.
'He said they were carrying knives, some of them with wide swords. He said the victim was screaming and trying to get away,' Mr Alzubaidi said. He said he had heard that the gang had scattered and run off in different directions.Other witnesses said that the gang was made up of about 15, with most wearing dark hoodies and bandanas over their faces.
One witness said that he saw the teenager running but he tripped and was attacked by the gang. He told the Evening Standard: 'He was shouting "don't do it" but they just went ahead. 'One put a blade in near his ribs. Others then kicked him before just jogging off as if nothing had happened.' The witness said that the attackers calmly put their weapons in socks and put them up their sleeves as they made off. The fatally injured teenager was found by ambulance staff after emergency services were called to the area following reports that a youth had been stabbed.
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Homes in Lupus Street cost on average more than £500,000 according to property website Zoopla, with a one-bedroom ex-council flat costing around £300,000. A resident said that there is a huge divide in the area. She said: 'To be honest there is certainly a difference between the two sides of the street but I never expected anything like this to happen. 'It's a shame that kids let it get to this point.
'I don't feel unsafe now but this type of thing can get to you when it happens in front of your front door.' A 58-year-old local resident said there had been two murders in nearby Gloucester Street in recent years and a stabbing of a boy outside a row of shops in Lupus Street before Christmas.
'The violence that has started to occur around here is something else - it is frightening for all the residents,' said the woman, who did not want to be named. 'You used to be able to walk around at night but I am starting to be very wary, especially at night.'
Last year Olivier Husseini, 17, was left fighting for his life after he was stabbed in nearby Gloucester Street.
David Savizon, who works for Westminster Council’s Your Choice anti-gangs programme, said Hani Abou El-Kheir’s name came up at a local meeting as someone who was 'on the periphery of having some sort of contact with gangs or activity such as drugs'.
Mr Savizon, 34, who has 12 years of experience working with youngsters at risk of joining gangs, said the schoolboy would have been assessed before being approached by drugs workers. But he was not deemed to be a major concern, he said. 'It was more of a bookmark just to see where this young person was,' said Mr Savizon. 'Everything I have heard about him, he was a very timid young man.'
The Churchill Gardens estate where the teenager lived has become a drugs blackspot in the last year, said Mr Savizon.
Children as young as ten are paid 'tens of pounds' to stash drugs and ferry them around. But he added that there is not an established network of drugs gangs. 'The Churchill Gardens estate has become a bit of a hotspot in the last 12 months for drugs,' said the outreach worker.
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Bringing this thread back to life:
https://gellerreport.com/2018/08/broken-britain.html/
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https://pekiti.com/blogs/news/karambits-magic-swords