Dog Brothers Public Forum

Im greatfull that one of my treasured students and friend purchased the DB's "Reality Stickfighting" DVD series recently and came into the base gym this morning sporting his DB's T-shirt.   

Looking forward to growing together in this area. 

He (Jeremy) is a motivated student and trains with his wife in my KajuPit MMA class.  She (Kat *Yes thats her name) is the Public Affairs Officer and loves to bang with the boys.  Last time Jeremy and Kat sparred, she was held in a near submission, until she bit her husband, Jeremy and forced him to let up.   

My kind of couple...  LOL

For them, I am greatfull.

I now have a potential of 3 comming to play at the Aug Gathering along with myself.


WOOF!
Dog Dean

Dog Ryan,

What type of, and how do you work the Doc side of the house...  This is an area that I would love to learn more about and would be interested in steering my career in that direction.

Feel free to PM me or call if you like...  

I have been thinking about that for some time but have yet to research it at all...  Whats your knowledge and or do you have a contact that I can get with to do some brain picking???

Thanks in advance for any input...  This question is also open to others that may have some insight into the matter.

What are the pre-req's, and steps to take, etc.

I hope this makes sense...   "sleep typing"

I ask because my friend is headed back out of state and I actually really liked some of the thing's he was showing me and I wanted to continue to see what it was all about.

Goodtimes Maxx,

Stay Progressive!
Woof!

Mastering elusive footwork is one of the key concepts for any fighter. 

This footwork is going to get me through my next match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WneS4nz7eUA 

NICE...  LOL

Even though I find humor in that clip...  There is something there... 

In August make sure you tie that know in your shirt again.  Great footage.  I respect your willingness to laugh at yourself and dive into the deapend. 

Goodtimes.

Woof All:

In today's episode of "As the Stick Twirls" we learned that we do not have a place for the Gathering yet.    Any ideas, suggestions, offers?

The Adventure continues!
Crafty Dog

Hmmmm...  Got a few - I'll email you Crafty.

In multiple player knife fights attacks from behind are a staple.

How do you think to handle this with sticks or other weapons?

Good question Sir 

One thats answer is easier imagined than accomplished 

A simple idea is to work more of a zone defense.  As my teacher loves to say, "Be like the spider to the fly".

My objective/goal (other than survival) is to feel the two packs (teams, back buddies, etc.) work together in order to survive.  I would like to hear communication and see stratagies at play with changing variables throughout the encounter.

Trust in your fellow DB to have your back and trust in his heart/will to win.

*I would like to call on Junk Yard Dog (aka Greg) to have my back...  He is courageous and full of heart (IMHO). 

If not him, then anyone of the other Warriors from the 20th Gathering. 

Woof

We will battle with the Brother at your side, at any given moment.  We dont always have the luxury of choosing who we have next to us when the crap hits the fan. 

I hope to battle side by side with all of the Pack at some time or another.  It is my honor to do so.

Dog Dean

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I would like to request a 2 on 2 or even 2 on 3 fight.

Jumping right into the deep end on that one.  How about 2 on 3 double stick?

Sure but I would like more of a brawl with mixed weapons.  All those double sticks just doesnt leave much variety...  but Im game.

HMmm, try this image;  2 on 3...  double stick/single stick and shock knife   ///   staff/double stick/shock knife

Now that would be fun.... 

Im in for any of the above...  driving the truck up this time...   and this is after our Kaju gathering so nothing lined up after this event = time to lick my wounds and reflect.

"Shadows and Dust"   

looks familiar in some ways...

 

Hmmm

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351502,00.html

FRESNO, Calif.  —  A 17-year-old high school sophomore was shot and killed Wednesday by a police officer on campus.

The officer, identified as Tom Perry, fired after the student at Roosevelt High School allegedly hit the officer with a baseball bat, police said.

Perry walked out of an office and was struck with a baseball bat, falling backwards and then to the ground. While trying to draw his weapon, the gun fell to the ground.

He grabbed his second weapon from his ankle holster and fired at least once at the approaching student who was still holding the bat.
The incident occurred just before 12 p.m. Officers arriving at the scene attempted CPR on the student.

An 18-year-old student said her mother, who is a resource teacher at the school, saw everything.

"She was walking her students back to class when she saw a boy push the officer and the officer shot the boy and the boy died at the scene," Gardy Zuniga told the Fresno Bee, adding the student had been in trouble recently and was allegedly armed with a gun.

Perry is employed by the police department as the school's resource officer. The officer's condition was not immediately released.


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Answer the following quick questions about yourself;

One area of my training that I currently feel good about is: Self control

One area of my training that I need to improve is: All of it... I suck -  I am never satisfied...  (I glory in this always seeking improvement)

One area of my character that is currently thriving is: Open mindedness and willingness to share all that I know with my students that display good intent.

One area of my character that needs improvement is: Tact

A style of martial art in which I excel, or an area of my game that I feel like is thriving right now is: Kajukenbo

As your best possible coach, write a quick, positive message to yourself:  Keep moving, stay progressive and always receive the tea with an empty cup.  Represent your family with Honor and Integrity never forget that "Myself is Always Watching".

Woof!
 
 
 

Good read - Thanks 

I picked up on the "avoid using tourniquets"...  Hmmm

I can see his point (with the understanding that) without proper training in the application and use of a tourniquet(s) you may have a false sense of confidense that you have controlled the bleeding. 

This is a "hip pocket" class that I would enjoy giving in more detail with some scenario/practical application drills under stress.   

One of the largest causes of fatalities in Vietnam was exsanguination due to improper application of tourniquets.

Hense the focus on teaching Marines, Combat Life Saving skills.

Again, good find and thanks for sharing,

Woof!

 

First, thank you for the kind words and recognition.   This is just the begining.  I will always share what knowledge I have and If I dont have the right answer to the question, we will find the answer together.  No BS here... 

Always the student first. 

Woof...
 


Here is my reflection;

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Before the Gathering my mind was one of wuji (no extreme).  My focus was, as is most often, on the progression and growth of those (students) that have trusted me to guide them along their martial journey.   Once again I was welcome among Alpha Males, “Dog’s”, the pack welcomed me in as if I were an old friend.  Being that this was only my second gathering, I still had reservations.  Hesitation about coming across the wrong way (cocky/arrogant/overconfident) or even worse, scared.  My only concern was EARNING my place among the pack and representing my instructor (GM Harper) with Honor, Courage and Commitment. 

I am honored and have great respect for everyone that I have been fortunate to have spent time with so far.  Each and every one of you are Warriors and winners.  There was no one inside the Corral that I would not go to War with. 

As I watched (during the short time I had) and listened to all of you this weekend.  I found myself reminded of my “Sand Box” experience.  In the beginning of my tour we (My Marines and I) were all scared, nervous and concerned for our safety.  As the days past we gained confidence (not to be confused with complacency) in our training and our applicable skills.  The skills we owned got us through the rough times.

Mid way though my deployment, I started seeing a separation (the Warriors from the Cowards).  Many turned to religion or medical looking for a crutch.  I turned to my art and began to share my gifts with those that would join me in my rituals.  I saw those men gain confidence and peace through the distraction and beauty of martial arts training and development. 

The last few weeks/days of my tour, much like the gathering of the pack, I felt and saw Warriors struggle with the challenges of “Stepping Up” - one more time.  After surviving and beating the odds long enough there is a higher level of concern (consciousness) that goes along with combat situations.  I find myself thinking, “Will this be the fight that breaks my bones or caves in my skull?”  Likewise, “Will this be the time I go out the wire and get blown up or killed”. 

In the end, the Warrior within, barks at the moon and growls at the face of danger with an evil grin and says “Fuck It”  lets do this and let my training, courage, heart, will and skill get me through to a “Higher Consciousness through Harder Contact”. 

“Only you are responsible for you”…  but it’s nice knowing that my Dog Brothers , Marines and Ohana are my keepers and the Pack that plays together stays together. 

Much respect to all of you, this weekend it was my honor to be among you all.

PS. 

Sled Dog,
If it were not for the fact that I found out you, a Kaju GM, were one of the original DB’s.  I may have not kept sniffing around.  I first ran across DB’s site and material some 10+ yrs ago.  My training has been impacted by the Tribe every since, in some way or another.  I can only hope to be such an inspiration to the generations that follow me.

I have nothing but respect and admiration for you, Mahalo Nui Loa Sir.


Mahalo Nui Loa and Aloha everyone,

TAC,
Dog Dean

I am pegging out on a serious work out and I need to push the limits again. I am looking for something that I can do at home when I am not training or at the gym.

At my home gym I have the basics, Push up bars, Steel chair, two big concret blocks (Can be used for dips and I also put my feet though the holes for sit ups.) I have curl bar, Dumbells.

So any kinds advice that would take me about 3 hours would be a help.

Thanks

Take a look here...  http://www.rossboxing.com/

I agree,  thus far I have seen alot of endurance and letss push these guys hard so that we can fight em at the end and look good.... 

I'll say this much, being the last episode of the series, we got to talk to the fighters "Doug and Jimmy"  Our goal was to show our art and the caliber of "Trainers" we have.  You should see some Kaj techniques for various situations and be able to see the progressive improvement of the fighters over the 5 days.  Our goal was to push the fighters hard, give them insight to our style, share some knowlege and see them progress to the level of being able to take the knowledge (simple and effective) and apply it. 

Please stay tuned.  Feb 29th should be a treat. 

Doug and Jimmy are down to earth and reality based fighters.  The off camera conversations were priceless but still very respectfull of the various systems.  The really focussed there thoughts on what was usefull in the real word and what was not these days. But still showed respect.

 

Random question here..I notice that all of the dog brother fights are with a weapon..What about just going at it weaponless against each other and rolling empty hand? Have you guys done this before?

Im game!  I do that with my guys and love to toss a knife or stick into mix at random (imagine a knife falling out of your opponents pocket in the middle of a fight).  Also, if the fight goes to the ground for more than 60 sec's (unless we are training that area) I send in another person.  Think of comming out of the bathroom at a bar and seeing your buddy struggling on the ground, time to jump in. 

We can stick to the Roots of DB's and still have this element (IMHO). 

Keeping it progressive always. 

 

I see in the news the NFL player Sean Taylor has died from being shot in the leg.  Apparently the bullet hit the femoral artery and even though ST was taken to the hospital and presumably the best of care applied, he died.  This is similar to the case of the bouncer who was knifed in the leg by a FMA trained person in NYC a few years back.

I know this thread has some people with a good level of understanding reading it and hope that some of them will comment.  Why is it that once someone is at the hospital they simply can't clamp off the femoral?

And what words of wisdom for what we should know?  If a tourniquet is available?  If not?
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Unfortunately this is one of the toughest bleeds to get control of.   First line of defense would be strong direct pressure as high as possible near the groin area on the same side as the wound.  I would sugest using a knee in this area as to get as much body weight as possible onto the Femoral artery.  (Right next to the groin and in the crease of the hip area on the inside (medial) aspect of the leg.  Use your hands and if need be "use your knife for good" open the wound enough, while maintaining direct pressure above the wound, and get to the artery as best as pssible (if you dont - he/she is going to die).  You could use a shoe lace or fishing line to tie around the artery (if you get to it). 

If you have pointed nose pliers, paper clip (whatever) try to clamp it. 

Best option, (IMHO) have some "Quick Clot" or the like to control the bleeding.  *Note:  Quick Clock requires special training and certification to use legally. 

I heard a story about a Combat Vet (IDC) Independent Duty Corpsman (a lot like a PA) was at the LA trauma center (we go there for training sometimes).  The Dr was unsuccessful controlling a femoral artery bleed and was giving up...  The IDC ran to his car and grabbed some Quick Clot from his bag of tricks.  Came back and told the Dr to try it (what do we have to loose).  The Dr used it and the patient survived.

I dont know why more trauma centers dont use it - but it works. 

(Crafty, theres some in the kit you now have).

I'll send you a vid of an Arterial bleed video put out by Quick Clot. 

Dean

Woof Dean, I'am very glad you finally have gotten the oppertunity to fight in a gathering. I know from the members site that this is something you've been looking to do for some time now.
Your post gathering comments are very insightful and well thought out, I have appreciated reading them very much.
It also comes across quite obviously that the gathering experience has worked its magic on you. Its done that to all of us.
You translate it very well, yet I can't help but think those who read this and have never been there, really don't understand.
I totally agree if someone has the oppertunity to participate in a gathering the should take full advantage.

Having said all that, I have found personally the biggest challenge for me is stepping out there again, after being dinged up.
In my last two gatheirngs, my first fights in both I got smacked around pretty good........esp in last Junes gathering....I found myself going into my second fight,looking forward to the end of the fight and trying to get out there get it done and not get hurt.
I feel this is a HUGE mistake.....I did not fight well at all.
Anyway.....I also felt as though there was a growth......I have always felt growth comes when you don't do so well...in my opinion thats when you learn.
Long story short.......My resolve in future gathering fights is to fight with total agression and as if it is my last. Of course, I do not mean to fight in a way to be out of control or to intentionally hurt anyone.
But to FULLY operate in the high adrenal state.
Keep posting bro. I enjoy your writings!
                                                           Dog SB/TG
P.S. GO NAVY

WOOF!   

As I took Monday away from the gym to reflect and recover a bit, I found myself noticing dings & scrapes in places that I cant recall getting hit.  I must confess the smile that came to my face because the Gathering made me feel ALIVE... 

To paraphrase a quote from Marcinco, "Pain is my friend, it lets me know I'm still alive".  When your dead it wont hurt anymore...

I hope everyone that reads this has a fantastic Thanksgiving - I am truely thankful for my new Dog Brother's and Sister. 
And for those that took the time to thank me for my service to our country - I realy appreciated that.  It does mean a lot to me.  Keep sharing your knowledge and whether directly or indirectly you will also be making a difference and give service to the best country in the world - God Bless our United States of America. 


PS
Now that I am on the West Coast, expect to see more of me over the years to come...


Dean

  8-)My first Gathering Experience…

I must admit that at first I was stand off’ish  and took the time to observe the Tribe and how they acted as a pack.  The energy was good and as I settled into the scene I found myself wanting to jump into the middle of the pack. 

Being a stray mut from a slightly different pack kept me with a slight concern of how the Dogs would react to my presence.  My concern was not what I would call fear of pain but fear of getting broken and disappointing my teacher.  You see, I had hinted that I may fight at this gathering but had the wisdom mind fighting my emotional mind.  I really wanted to jump in and play (which I ended up doing).  I had/have committed to assisting my instructor Prof Greg Harper (aka Kaju Pit) with training a fighter for the upcoming show called “Fight Quest”. 

Fight Quest will be Discovery HD's prime time flagship program of the Spring and Summer of 2008, airing in 80 countries worldwide, the exposure will be enormous. They will be filming November 28 through December 6 , 2007. Doing the work for the Discovery network is North South Productions. A New York-based Producer of documentary series on the Discovery HD network.

In this series, two American martial art students, Jimmy Smith and Doug Anderson, travel the globe to investigate different schools of martial arts. From an intense form of stick fighting in the Philippines (Kali) to studying Muay Thai in Thailand. Jimmy and Doug immerse in each culture, learn about its history, train in their traditional martial art, and ultimately, test their skills and courage against a local fighter skilled in the art. The students enthusiastically embrace the teachings of their Instructors and the traditional rituals of the cultures, while struggling to learn a fighting style that they will have to put into action after less than a week of training. They are along for their visceral, educational, and sometimes dangerous journey through the worlds most renowned and respected fight forms.

The students will be trained individually by a different "Master Trainer" at a training facility over approximately a week-long duration. At the end of the week, each of the students will go head to head in a fight with a few of the master's experienced trainers to see how much they've learned . During the week, the extremely respectful, curious, patient and hard-working students would be at the mercy of the instructors - following their every command, working and training on the same level as any of the others at the facility. Because the program will also be looking at the culture surrounding Kajukenbo - the instructors and others at the facility will introduce the students to special ceremonies, traditions of the martial art and customs, etc.

Great Grandmaster Gaylord will head up the program as "Great Grandmaster". He will also be one of the "Master Trainers" putting one of the students through a week of Kajukenbo Training in the Hayward training facility.

Professor Greg Harper will also be one of the "Master Trainers" putting one of the students through a week of Kajukenbo Training in the San Jose training facility.

For more information on North South Productions and the show please visit the web site at www.northsouth.tv and click on Fight Quest.

With that being put out there, I am happy to have walked as a Warrior with Warriors at this “Gathering of the Pack”.  I left with a few bruises and a nice lump on my head (Lesson learned – Thank you Dog Corey). 

I feel confident with my knowledge of the Stick but had not “Stress Tested” my skill sets in this way, in much more than a controlled setting in the past.  I feel that I did not shine and did not perform the way I wished I had… Distracted and outside of myself most the day .  But none the less, I did get out there and the Pack made me to feel welcome. 

I look forward to future gatherings. I will be better prepared and less distracted next time.

Thank you everyone, especially Junkyard Dog and Dog Pound.  We will cross again and I look forward to crossing with all of you over time. 

Respectfully,
Dean   

I like the wall for the added variety.  Walls are a part of our modern world.  If the wall isn't possible, pushing one of those dead cars in the OP warehouse onto the mat would make for a very interesting Gathering. 

I like that idea...  Made me think of "Lion Heart" where they pulled in and circled the fight area with the cars.  Just think, little johnny and jenny could sit safely in the car seat and watch (mom and dad can sit on the hood/roof).  Kind of like a battle at the drive in.   

Just to clarify I intend to use a very small round shield. not some huge thing.

I had a student ward off a 2 man attack improv during training with a small round BBQ lid once.  Worked well for him and its practical.  Never know when one of the drunk inlaws might pull a knife or bat and come after you at a BBQ event.  LOL   (You did what to my sister )

(Posted with written permission of Guro Crafty)
Thank you Guro Denny


Short notice, but here you go.
All are invited 

http://websterkajupit.blogspot.com/2007/08/kajupit-mma-seminar-bbq-29-sep-2007.html

KajuPit Mixed Martial Arts Seminar this weekend! 

Note:  This is not a seminar for "Sport" it is for "Street MMA" - No Rules fighting...

see link for details.  Note:  Special guest instructor will be DP GM Ted Sotelo

On the flip side, I try to blend everything with/into my empty hand skills. 
 

P:

Why is that the right thing to do?

To answere your question Crafty.  You lay them on the affected side for a few reasons.  The main reason is so that it is easier for them to breath.  If you have one healthy lung still functioning, then you do not want to lay them so that their body weight is compromising the ability of that lung to function (rise and fall).  Also laying on the side would help prevent the person from choking on their own blood.  You can still monitor vitals but CPR   If he's bleeding out and your not putting fluids in, CPR is kind of a lost cause?  Whats the heart going to pump if he's bled out?


Control the bleeding, Tell someone else to call EMS/911, Maintain Airway and Breathing, Treat for Shock and place in rocovery position.  If the injured is conscious they may be better off sitting up with feet elevated also (V) this can relieve some of the pressure in the chest and aid with breathing.

Hope that helps.

There was actually a field case in Iraq where one of the Corpsman used the hose from his Camel Pack (H2O supply) to create a temporary chest tube.  (Dont try this at home kiddies)    Now thats thinking outside the Kennel. 

Semper Gumbey

Any thoughts on location?

Anyone within 2 hrs drive of central CA (Lemoore/Fresno) area???

Respectfully,
Dean