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DBMA Martial Arts Forum => Martial Arts Topics => Topic started by: mronkain on February 15, 2005, 05:31:23 AM
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Hi everyone,
I finally found a store in Finland that sells fencing masks. What is your recommendation for stick sparring use:
http://steffenpeters.de/store/index.php?cPath=37
I have eyeglasses which I plan to use at least in the beginning (no full contact sparring) under the mask. Is this a bad idea? Should I get contact lenses right away?
Thanks for the input!
- Marko
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I don't see a real need to wear googles under the mask. Your link is dead, what model are you talking about on the site?
Gruhn
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Eyeglasses, not goggles.... The need is that I don't see s**t withou them.
About the models, well, the question basically was, what model would you recommend? If I'm looking for one, all-around mask, would it have to be a sabre mask or something else? I have to admit that I don't know too much about fencing masks, the need is to provide enough protection for both light and hard contact.
- Marko
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Eyeglasses, not goggles.... The need is that I don't see s**t withou them.
About the models, well, the question basically was, what model would you recommend? If I'm looking for one, all-around mask, would it have to be a sabre mask or something else? I have to admit that I don't know too much about fencing masks, the need is to provide enough protection for both light and hard contact.
- Marko
My Bad,
My father wears his when we fight. The only problem is getting the mask on and off with the glasses on; they tend to move around but he seems to have a pretty good system down. As for a model you might want to start off with a cheeper mask first to see if it is what you want before you go and spend a couple hundred on a really good fencing mask. I have purchased a few off of ebay from http://www.alexandrsport.com/mask.htm and I love the masks. For the price you can't beat the quality.
Gruhn
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mronkain
You might want to get prescription goggles.
As for a mask ... get a FIE (approved for international competitions) 3 weapon fencing mask http://www.blue-gauntlet.com/store/images/m1601.gif. Is not cheap (about $150), but it is very strong. I talked the local saber fencing club into giving me one (long term loan, whatever), but used club masks can be pretty funky. I would rather wear a good mask than risk a head injury in a cheap mask that sets back my training.
There is a new standard for fencing masks coming. The new masks will have a clear shield in front of the eyes. http://www.leonpaul.com/shop/new_product_sheets/v2k.htm I have doubts that this new mask will be strong enough for stick fighting.
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Corey,
The masks I have are exact to the BG minus the name and the additional bucks, I found out they are made in the same factory.
Gruhn
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Thanks for the input. Luckily, I have a chance to check out the masks at local fencing club before buying. I also posted the question on a Finnish fencing forum, they recommended a 1600-series mask. Most of them are FIE approved.
- Marko
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I also posted the question on a Finnish fencing forum, they recommended a 1600-series mask. Most of them are FIE approved.
- Marko
The only thing you will notice is that on the fencing forum they are all about the extremly expensive masks. I don't think this is a "must" for what we are doing. I posted on a few of the fencing forums and told them what I was doing with the mask and they all made it sound like they treated their masks like gold. When I said I was going to be hitting it with a stick they all said there was no way they would ever use their mask for such a thing. In a way I totally agree with them, there is no reason to pay that kind of money for somthing that really isn't built that much better for what we are doing.
Gruhn
Gruhn
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Fencers masks are tested at each tournament by the armorer (who can be real assholes about safe equipment). Even normal fencing strikes eventually weaken the mesh. I am sure a couple of stick fights would make it unusable for competition. Once a mask fails there is no way to repair it. It is retired and used for practice only.
My best advice is go a local club get a used 3 weapon mask - FIE if possible because it is stronger and has more padding.
I just searched the Sacramento Craigslist "sporting goods" section with the term "fencing." I found a $10 mask for sale. Go to http://www.craigslist.org/about/cities.html find your city, run a search (or post a want ad) and see what comes up.
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Thanks, but like I said, I live in Finland and I'm looking for a local source. I'm planning on going to have a look at the masks and then decide. The price range starts from about 60 EUR, which is about 80 $ I quess.
- Marko
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An impressive piece, done by Yutthana Tokijkla for Linda Matsumi.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs613.ash2/156589_1474896958356_1411660434_30990510_8088954_n.jpg)
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More beautiful work, again by "Toki"
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs312.ash2/59235_1392710263740_1411660434_30857477_1942877_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs312.ash2/59235_1392710303741_1411660434_30857478_8268076_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs632.snc4/59235_1392710343742_1411660434_30857479_6122903_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs612.snc4/59235_1392710383743_1411660434_30857480_1455141_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs693.snc4/63380_1403868662693_1411660434_30878892_3063910_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs886.snc4/71985_1423609076191_1411660434_30911755_7635233_n.jpg)
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Kombat Instruments Ltd. (K.I.L.) is a company that specializes in stickfighting products. I bought two fencing mask's through K.I.L. and have been very happy with there performance at a price that would fit most peoples budget. The company is owned and operated by a long time dog brother and I would highly recommend them to anyone looking for these types of products. Good Luck!
DogTom
Link:
http://www.bloodsport.com/
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The Fencing Post is my favorite with great deals. www.thefencingpost.com
Here's a link to a great, affordable mask with removable liner to wash. http://stores.thefencingpost.com/-strse-622/MFLN23/Detail.bok
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Guys
If anyone mentions the this thread I will give them 10% off a fencing mask
Nick
www.bloodsport.com
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I, (as I'm sure many others here can), can speak to the performance of both K.I.L. products; sticks, masks, gloves and otherwise, and also to Toki's skill at adorning the masks with "warpaint."
I am lucky enough to have these two individuals in my life, and I stand by either of them or their products completely!
Kostas, I'll be sure to bring it along! :mrgreen:
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if you are from the EU or UK, just use this site : http://www.swordpricefighters.com/sabre.html
I ordered 4 of them for 150 euros, plus some postage. Hard as hell, comfortable, compact, great for stick work and very,very cheap.
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if you are from the EU or UK, just use this site : http://www.swordpricefighters.com/sabre.html
I ordered 4 of them for 150 euros, plus some postage. Hard as hell, comfortable, compact, great for stick work and very,very cheap.
Thanks for the Link my friend...we also ordered there: Nice masks, and really cheap :-)
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Windrose armory makes helms for armored fighting. They just came out with a new helm for practicing with blunt steel swords. This may be of interest: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150325182785453&set=a.10150164115705453.418808.287555465452 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150325182785453&set=a.10150164115705453.418808.287555465452)
Link to their website: http://www.windrosearmoury.com/zc/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=wma (http://www.windrosearmoury.com/zc/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=wma)
Karsk
PS I know that this is overkill for gatherings but perhaps there is a use in some aspect of training
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Windrose armory makes helms for armored fighting. They just came out with a new helm for practicing with blunt steel swords. This may be of interest: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150325182785453&set=a.10150164115705453.418808.287555465452 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150325182785453&set=a.10150164115705453.418808.287555465452)
Link to their website: http://www.windrosearmoury.com/zc/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=wma (http://www.windrosearmoury.com/zc/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=wma)
Karsk
PS I know that this is overkill for gatherings but perhaps there is a use in some aspect of training
Karsk..hope its OK by you, am posting the photo that you referred to a few weeks back...I must say, I've not seen anything like it...
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/63593_10150325182785453_287555465452_15984243_207523_n.jpg)
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...Kostas, I'll be sure to bring it along! :mrgreen:
Any developments on you and the others making it over to the Euro Gathering this year ?
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...Kostas, I'll be sure to bring it along! :mrgreen:
Any developments on you and the others making it over to the Euro Gathering this year ?
I'm getting back from Mexico and Africa during the next month and then am taking time off to ge to Europe. I know that Boo Dog and perhaps even Tennessee Dog had expressed interest in coming as well as some of the Dogs in Canada. :mrgreen: