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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Real contact stickfighting, injuries and recovery
« on: August 18, 2008, 11:10:03 PM »
being from Hawaii
pineapple juice
and of course ibuprofen.
pineapple juice
and of course ibuprofen.
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Little Bolveys is doing well. He's pushing a 5 gallon water bottle as a walking aid. I'm in decent fight shape, so I hope to be back at the next Gathering. Miss you guys. On Sunday, I had the strong feeling that I should be in LA fighting instead of porking up on Dim Sum in San Francisco at my family reunion.
Brock Lesnar showed tremendous improvement over his last outing which I suspect is due to having both Eric Paulsen and Greg Nelson in his corner
GSP continues to amaze and balls of steel award, jaw of steel award and conditioning award to Fitch for being the warrior to let him show it. Great respect between the two at the end of the fight. Perhaps Sled Dog can give us some background on GSP's fight preps?
Tom did not go easy on him either. A lot of men would not have come back after that.
For matching height/weight, just look to Roger Tinkoff (C-Space Dog). He challenged and fought Tom Kier for a single stick fight at his first Gathering. A 2x weight and strength difference is a true Gathering experience. Granted, that's tougher to find for the larger guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXNroQ1-dWs
Peregrine, Why do you ask?
"you might feel a bit better if you didn't , , , NEED to carry."
This seems to be the essence of the point you are making.
I lead a relaxed and happy life by not obsessing about being attacked, imagining that I might walk into a mall shooting, a terrorist attack, etc. If I do find myself in such a situation, the best bet is to escape anyway. If I can't escape, the secondary benefit of my training will kick in. The primary benefit is health and enjoyment.
We are continually bombarded by stories about people who, after getting involved, were arrested, prosecuted and otherwise treated like the perp they were trying to stop.
I honestly don't know what I would have done in those circumstances. I hope I would have intervened, but lets not judge these people. Rather, lets steel ourselves to the possibility that we could freeze too and work to come to grips with those feelings and pray that when it hits the fan, we can step up and do the right thing.
Tony
...3 right turns ....LOL!!'
I think you're right about the connection between practice and experience, and being relaxed. I hope you don't mind but I thought I'd transfer your ideas to the other thread: 'Relaxed vs Prepared'
Woof All:
About 6 weeks ago I had a very productive conversation with the principal and got her to agree in principal with the concept of the right of self-defense. She agreed to have me help her draft the language for next year's school handbook. Today we finally got around to it.
Here is the language we agreed upon:
"FIGHTING: Part of a good education is learning how to resolve conflict peacefully and we take that seriously here at __________. If a student is being harassed or bullied, the proper solution is to report the matter to a teacher or other school authority. The matter will then be mediated in a civilized manner. Parental support in this area is particularly important.
"At the same time, of course we recognize that everyone has the right to defend his/herself if attacked. Of course distinguishing self-defense and fighting can sometimes be quite a challenge!
"In the event of an altercation, it is the responsibility of the principal or designee to interview all students who were involved and any witnesses. A determination will be made based upon the facts as to whether or not an attack which was defended or fighting occurred. Then the principal/designee will make a determination on the merits and as to suitable punishment, if any. Know that two children claiming "He started it!" is likely to be resolved with the punishment of both."
The Adventure continues,
Crafty Dog
My call is that Sherk will take him down and put a "half mount" clinic on BJ. If not TKO, decision going to Sherk.
The way each of us uses verbalizations will be and should be different. With regards to where Thompson says "whereas shorter sentences, certainly single syllables, send the message that the conversation is coming to an end." (and that fight is about the start)"
that often I use very brief answers to make clear that there is not to be any further dialog. For example to an ominous request for money, typically I simply answer "No." I NEVER say "Sorry" which is something I see many people do. The abruptness of the answer is intended to make clear, as Thompson notes, that I will not be intimidated and that any further harassment will not be tolerated.
This is a great fight. Pro Skater Mike V fighting 4 guys
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pOWZFQ1SPaI&feature=related
QuoteMy response was not what he thought he would get as it was far outside the norms of the middle east, which by the look on his face caused his thought process to short circuit
In his book, "Dead or Alive:The Choice Is Yours" Geoff Thompson lists abstract question asking as both a deterrent/confuser and as a an action trigger.
As a deterrent/confuser:
This is generally used in the early part of the run-in before the adrenaline has started pumping. "How's your brother/mother these days?" "Is your sister's name Mary?" "Don't you know my cousin, David?". This can be a series of questions wherein your "recognition" of the attacker may buy you time, or plant the seed of doubt in their head (Maybe this guy really does know someone I know)
As an action trigger:
An action trigger would be defined as something that prepares you mentally for your pre-emptive strike while throwing your adversary off guard. It can be a simple question or something abstract that makes no sense at all. As Thompson writes, "A submissive question is also a subliminal indication that you wish to prolong the conversation, whereas shorter sentences, certainly single syllables, send the message that the conversation is coming to an end." (and that fight is about the start)
"I'm sorry I didn't hear you, what did you say?"
"What was the score in the game tonight?"
"Did you see that chicken video?"
I saw a bouncer use the abstract question technique one night with an extremely drunk client. No matter what the drunk would say, the bouncer kept asking things like "What is your favorite color?", "Can you fix a radiator?", "Do pickles give you gas?". It completely disarmed the drunk by keeping him mentally off-balance. So much so that he forgot about the fight he was about to get into, mumble something about "Too confusing..." and wandered off.
Not that a prolonged line of questioning would work in a sucker punch situation, but a single abstract question can buy you some time.
I can't imagine many, if any, scenarios that just keeping your distance and avoiding people you don't know won't solve. Do you guys really think it's more complicated than that? Maybe I'm taking too much for granted, but I'm not going to let someone get close enough to hit me without having time to react unless I'm in a crowd. Common courtesy dictates that you don't walk past someone with no space when no one else is around. YOU can maintain the distance. And if you're in a crowd and someone hits you...well there's no amount of training that's going to prevent that...aside from ninja like super consciousness!
My strategy has always been to avoid verbal exchanges, to keep going, and to keep my distance when approached by someone. Even in a crowd, when someone asks you for a dollar, the time, etc., just keep on walking, or start walking. If you're followed, maintain the distance. If you can't maintain the distance, then it's time to act. I used to tell my students, when you're threatened and cannot escape, it's time to attack. No well meaning person is going to keep pressing you if you've tried to moved away and voiced your intention. If someone does press you further, something is wrong. Of course I'm not advocating nailing someone for asking you what time it is. But you can move away, tell the person you don't have the time/money/whatever, and use your hands/arms as a barrier with great preparedness if he continues to approach, all the while being non-threatening...not provoking a fight. With training, you better be able to pick up the signs/body mechanics that someone is about to launch into an attack from a few feet away. You could clearly see them in the first video. The attacker even cocked back.
I can't imagine many, if any, scenarios that just keeping your distance and avoiding people you don't know won't solve. Do you guys really think it's more complicated than that?
Baahhhahahah, peregine you are cracking me up!
Below are few circuits I like. Remember - no breaks between stations or sets.
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This is my latest:
2 min Tire flip
2 min Sledge hammer the tire
2 min Tire flip
2 min Throw down a sand filled basketball (25-30lbs)
2 min Outside swings w/ kettlebell
Repeat (2 sets of these and I need a break)
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This next one doesn't sound that bad, but it sneaks up on you:
Jump rope until you mess up (or 50 jumps)
Farmers walk a set of kettlebells out and back about 50 feet
Jump rope until you mess up (or 50 jumps)
Clean (and hold) a set of kettlebells while walking out and back about 50 feet
Jump rope until you mess up (or 50 jumps)
Snatch (and hold) a set of kettlebells while walking out and back about 50 feet
Repeat for 15 minutes
(Hint - to keep it challenging, have various sized sets of kettlebells or dumbbells handy. I like heavier bells for the farmer's walk or at the start and then use lighter bells for the snatch or as I get fatigued.)
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This one is fun:
2 min Heavy bag
1 min Indian club swings (10 - 15lbs)
repeat about 5 times
(hint - you can replace the club work with KB swings or thrusters or set of 3-5 deadlifts.)
Thats it? Thats easy..You need to come work out with me
http://www.teamruthless.com/Burpee_NEW.wmv
I noticed during some recent knife dueling training that I had a lot more gas in my tank than I expected. I attribute it to doing burpees.