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Title: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 09, 2014, 02:43:43 PM
Woof All:

This thread is for pre-fight chatter, lining up fights, practical questions, etc.

HCTHC,
Crafty Dog
GF
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 09, 2014, 03:17:15 PM

Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack – September 21, 2014
Click Here To Download The Fighter Registration Form

Howl of Greeting:
The rhythm of the seasons is with us and its time for the "Summer Dog Brothers Gathering of the Pack". On behalf of the Council of Elders of the Dog Brothers, Dog Brothers Inc. hereby cordially invites all people of good spirit to its "Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack" at 11:00AM on Sunday, September 21, 2014 at:

Gokor Chivichyan’s Hayastan MMA Academy
7299 Atoll Ave
North Hollywood, CA 91605

Google Map

Parking: Due to the rather small size of The Hayastan Academy’s parking lot most of you will be parking on surface streets. On a Sunday morning this should present no problem, but please plan your time accordingly.

Audience: The viewing experience here is the best indoor experience we have ever had. There are bleachers on two sides of the fight area and a balcony overlooking from a third side. The donation at the door will be $15. Please remember that this will be a good opportunity to pick up our DVDs, sticks, clothing and other items at special prices.

Audience Safety Issues:  Due to the nature of the event, we cannot guarantee your safety.  Sticks, and fights for that matter, may go flying into the crowd. Parents should consider things like this in deciding whether a child is old enough to bring along and/or deciding on from where to observe the event. If a stick or a fight comes careening your way know that the fight has right of way– it is on you to get out of the way! If you are sitting in or near the front row, we will not make fun of you if you wear protective headgear! The same liability waiver that applies to the fighters applies to you too.

NO CAMERAS AT ALL, BE THEY STILL OR VIDEO.  Although in the past we have allowed photos, we have had some people take advantage of the increasing capabilities of technology to shoot video; therefore no cameras at all are allowed.  Anyone violating this policy will be asked to leave. We will have a professional camera person or two taking picture which will be made available to all at no cost.  If you see someone filming, please let us know!!! We are very appreciative when you help look out for us!
 
FIGHTERS:

1)      Gathering Day is too busy a day for us to be dealing with paperwork.  Here is the fighter registration form. Click Here To Download The Fighter Registration Form Without fail it must be sent to us in advance of Gatheirng day and your name must be on the Registered Fighters List if you are to fight.  Your point of contact with regard with all such matters is Cindyinfo@dogbrothers.com 310-540-6853.

2)      Two sides of the fight area are padded walls, one side is a cage fight type fence, and the fourth side is a waist high version thereof. If this is your first time, take a look at the highlight clips from recent years to get an idea of what it looks like. Please note that our host Gokor takes VERY seriously the cleanliness and condition of his fight area. Therefore ONLY wrestling shoes (white soled preferred) or bare feet will be allowed. You will be required to remove them before exiting the fight area and put them back on upon returning to it, so bringing sandals of some sort of sandals along may be a good idea.

3)      Please note that such a place does not come cheap, and we must pay for insurance too and so ask for $40 from each fighter.  http://dogbrothersgear.com/PTP-Seminars-Camps/Fighter-Donation-2013.html 

4)      Concerning fight gear:  Please be sure to read “The Moth and the Flame” athttp://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=2438.0  Concerning the fight knives seehttp://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=1296.0  Concerning aluminum knives:  With some knives that people have brought, we have had actual punctures.  THIS CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS!  Therefore we ask that any knives you use have tips as rounded as these here:  http://dogbrothersgear.com/Tools-of-the-Trade/12-Aluminum-Blade.html and http://dogbrothersgear.com/Tools-of-the-Trade/9-Aluminum-Training-Blade.html  Of course if you do not have knives with rounded tips like these, we will be glad to sell you some ;-)

5)      Lining up your fights: Most fighters line up at least some of their fights in advance.  One good place to do this and to engage in conversation about the Gathering as it approaches is the thread at http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=2513.new#new  Although due to the nature of Facebook itself posts there are more transitory, DBMA Facebook also is a good place for pre-fight chatter. https://www.facebook.com/groups/51885866231/

6)      Get creative! We encourage you to fight knife versus stick. Stick vs. knife has been one of perennial questions of the FMA, so let’s continue the research! Also, please feel free to hide a knife on your person and surprise your opponent with it during the fights. Remember that you may fight with weapons other than a stick if you can find someone willing to go against you. Please consider staff, double stick, and anything else. In order to more deeply explore certain variables, fighters may agree to "no grappling" rules. In staff and other heavy weapon fights the fighters may wear wrestling type ear guards under the fencing masks. 

7)      Women Fighters: Women may fight men in the knife fights only.

8)   Also, from time to time I put ideas/themes out there for people to consider.  For example hidden knife or in the last few years I have mentioned “stick & knife”. There has been some really excellent growth in this regard and it has served well in lessening people rushing in willy nilly to clinch-ground fighting and thus paying more attention to their stick skills.  Good!

Continuing the theme of cultivating real stick skills, this year I would like to draw people’s attention to the jab.  Granted with the fencing masks the jab has less consequence than it would without (and the street is without headgear), but if I may be indulged in a moment of “In the old days” I would say that in the old days we had a number of people with wicked jabs so it most certainly can be done.  Jabs set things up and allow for a higher level with the stick.  Something I hope some people will think about , , ,
 
The Magic Words:

The MAGIC WORDS: "No judges, no referees, no trophies. One rule only: Be friends at the end of the day. This means our goal is that no one spends the night in the hospital. Our goal is that everyone leaves with the IQ with which they came. No suing no one for no reason for nothing no how no way!Real Contact Stickfighting is Dangerous and only you are responsible for you, so protect yourself at all times. All copyright belongs to Dog Brothers Inc. CA law applies." © DBI

The Adventure continues!!!

 "Higher Consciousness through Harder Contact" (c)
Crafty Dog
Guiding Force of the DogBrothers
President/Dog Brothers Inc.
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 20, 2014, 03:53:52 PM
Due to an apparent brain fart, there were two threads for this Gathering, so I have deleted the other one.   :oops:


The Gathering will be held at Gokor's in NoHo again.

Registered fighters so far:

1: Pete "C-Smiling Dog" Juska
2: Richard Palacios
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: ptrout on August 21, 2014, 07:09:01 AM
My registration is in the mail today, so I it's time to start filling the dance card  :-D

I'm looking for a knife fight, an espada y daga, and a couple of single stick fights.  At the moment, it's all open.

Thanks,
Paul
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: blindside on August 21, 2014, 10:12:39 AM
Unrefundable ticket purchased - check
Sent in Gathering registration form - check

I guess it is time to find dance partners.

I have knife fight lined up. 

Paul, I'll take you up on that Espada y Daga match.

Looking for at least two single stick and maybe another EyD match.

Lamont
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 21, 2014, 10:22:45 AM
3:  Lamont Glass
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: ptrout on August 21, 2014, 10:48:46 AM
...
Paul, I'll take you up on that Espada y Daga match.

Looking for at least two single stick and maybe another EyD match.

Lamont

Thank you sir - one espada y daga slot filled!  TAC
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 21, 2014, 12:18:38 PM
4:  Quiet Dog
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 21, 2014, 04:23:31 PM
5: Dog Dax Guljie
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Smiling Dog on August 21, 2014, 06:29:44 PM
Hey Dax.... you wanna do a fight?

I also think Quiet Dog may be in the mood for a rematch???
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Quiet Dog on August 21, 2014, 07:54:00 PM
C-Smiling - You know it!
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: ptrout on August 21, 2014, 08:46:05 PM
Dax - ABSOLUTELY - looking forward to it.  Also have a single stick with Gibby, so the card is filling in nicely  :-o

Thanks
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Smiling Dog on August 22, 2014, 08:54:07 AM
Dax ... U name it I'm game. Dbl knife is A-OK
It will be great to see you as well.

Migs.... Down for whatever Brother.
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 27, 2014, 04:12:42 PM
6: Seeing Eye Dog

Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 28, 2014, 12:25:10 AM
7: Dog Vinsent Franke
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: C-Dancing Dog on August 28, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
Anxiously I look forward to switching up my Sunday of rest to honor all those before and beside me in this Open Gathering. To date, I've one match set for a double sword/krabi krabong. I'd like to set a bolo y daga, a tomahawk and long blade and possibly a nice lunch after...
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Gibby on August 28, 2014, 10:43:32 PM
Is it that time of the year already...?

Hey Big Franke:  You are simply a beast.... I wish Dayvid could attend.
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 29, 2014, 03:42:10 PM
8: "Dog" Dirk Eichstaedt
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: C-Dancing Dog on August 29, 2014, 06:48:45 PM
@Gibby, it's been said, "nature versus nurture"... I, like yourself am the some total of all my experiences. There is a time where the monster  Mr Hyde comes from behind the shadowed veil and other times when the great Dr Jeckyl chooses not to hide either side....any thing on my plate I ordered, just as Dayvid has. I would prefer his presence as well
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 29, 2014, 07:54:23 PM
9:  Eric Tamaiglo
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 31, 2014, 07:03:59 AM
10: Greg Macnamee

Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 03, 2014, 12:34:34 PM
11: Tony "C-Taz Dog" Caruso

12: Alvin Jasper Rigior (sp?)

13: Paul Trout


Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: blindside on September 05, 2014, 01:23:58 PM
I am still looking for a single stick match....  Thanks!
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Vigilant Dog on September 05, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
Blindside, single stick sounds good  :-)
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: blindside on September 05, 2014, 04:51:03 PM
Thanks Dirk, I look forward to crossing sticks with you.

Lamont
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Greg Mac on September 05, 2014, 06:10:52 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen I am honored to be attending this gathering!  Thank you for having me.  Sir Richard "Seeing Eye Dog", Sir Miguel "Quiet Dog", and Sir Anthony "C-TazDog" - Gentlemen I was informed by the guys in my NoHo pack that I could learn an aweful great deal from you.  Would any of you do me the great honor of fighting with me? 

My fellow training brother Vinsent Franke said he would clash with me and educate me as well. 

Cheers and thanks to all.

Respectfully - Greg McNamee
Title: Stun Gun?
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 05, 2014, 11:32:14 PM
We've had an inquiry from a corrections officer looking to try his stun gun.  Anyone game?

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"Would one be allowed to enter a stun gun into a knife/stick fight? I work in corrections and would love to explore the applicability of being able to defend a stun gun which many urban street terrorist have now begun to use as tools of their trade. Any form of reply will greatly be appreciated. Baguazhang stick fighting mechanics is part of my fighting theory that close quarter spacing and closing the gap and manipulating the distance I hope to expound upon with you in the future."
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Greg Mac on September 06, 2014, 12:12:06 AM
Sir I will help with this task.  If it helps him to become a better and safer officer, I volunteer.

Respectfully - Greg
Title: Re: Stun Gun?
Post by: blindside on September 06, 2014, 12:37:00 AM
We've had an inquiry from a corrections officer looking to try his stun gun.  Anyone game?

============

"Would one be allowed to enter a stun gun into a knife/stick fight? I work in corrections and would love to explore the applicability of being able to defend a stun gun which many urban street terrorist have now begun to use as tools of their trade. Any form of reply will greatly be appreciated. Baguazhang stick fighting mechanics is part of my fighting theory that close quarter spacing and closing the gap and manipulating the distance I hope to expound upon with you in the future."

WTH, sure I'm game, it should encourage footwork. :D
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 06, 2014, 08:55:44 AM
That's the spirit gentlemen!
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 06, 2014, 10:57:11 AM
Wonder what model he will be using , , ,


http://www.gizmag.com/bodyguard-stun-device/18783/
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Quiet Dog on September 07, 2014, 10:48:35 AM
Greg Mac,

I have a decent dance card already, but let's see how things flow during the day. I may be able to fit you in.  :wink:

Quiet Dog
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Greg Mac on September 08, 2014, 01:14:48 AM
Quiet Dog Sir,

Thank you for your consideration. Regardless I look forward to learning from you by watching and / or dancing with you.

Respectfully,

Greg Mac
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Smiling Dog on September 10, 2014, 12:38:56 PM
Anxiously I look forward to switching up my Sunday of rest to honor all those before and beside me in this Open Gathering. To date, I've one match set for a double sword/krabi krabong. I'd like to set a bolo y daga, a tomahawk and long blade and possibly a nice lunch after...

I would be up for a blade/sword and the lunch after....
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: JT on September 10, 2014, 02:55:10 PM
Woof ALL!

Hope everyone is doing great and preparing for the Open Gathering. I'll be in attendance, but unfortunately I won't be fighting this year due to a knee injury. Nevertheless, It'll be great to catch- up with everyone.

WOOF WOOF!!!

C-Commando Dog
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: C-Dancing Dog on September 10, 2014, 11:03:22 PM
Anxiously I look forward to switching up my Sunday of rest to honor all those before and beside me in this Open Gathering. To date, I've one match set for a double sword/krabi krabong. I'd like to set a bolo y daga, a tomahawk and long blade and possibly a nice lunch after...

I would be up for a blade/sword and the lunch after....

C-Smiling Dog, thank you for the expressed interest with a blade/sword match. Shall we set a knife match-one without the pummel, more technical in nature?  Also, lunch/diner will rock! I'm sure many Brothers will be in need of some grub...there as some good spots around Gokors!
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Smiling Dog on September 11, 2014, 05:21:25 PM
I already have a knife fight set. The sword I use is about 28"... if you dont have one I'm sure there will be one there for you to use. But the rest sounds good!
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: C-Dancing Dog on September 11, 2014, 11:42:53 PM
I have many swords...so yes lets! I look forward to the open and all you bring to it...safe travels here. See you soon Brother. Much respect!
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 12, 2014, 08:43:55 AM
If anyone has any nominations to or within the Tribe please get them up right away on the Tribal forum!
Title: Single Stick & Staff fights?
Post by: greg jah on September 15, 2014, 08:40:31 AM
Woof woof, everyone!

I am looking forward to meeting everyone and being a part of next week's Gathering.

Paul Trout and Seeing Eye Dog, I would be honored to cross sticks with you. The three of you were suggested to me by my friend and teacher, Terry C-Shadow Dog. I am looking to line up a stick fight fight, and a staff fight.

Let me know what you think!

Best,

Greg
Title: Re: Single Stick & Staff fights?
Post by: ptrout on September 15, 2014, 09:48:25 AM
Woof woof, everyone!

I am looking forward to meeting everyone and being a part of next week's Gathering.

Paul Trout and Seeing Eye Dog, I would be honored to cross sticks with you. The three of you were suggested to me by my friend and teacher, Terry C-Shadow Dog. I am looking to line up a stick fight fight, and a staff fight.

Let me know what you think!

Best,

Greg

Greg - It would be my privilege to cross sticks with you. Looking forward to meeting you face to face!

-Paul
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: ptrout on September 15, 2014, 11:29:39 AM
If anyone still has an opening for a knife fight, that's the last open slot on my dance card :-o

WOOF,
Paul
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 15, 2014, 03:10:30 PM
Woof All:

Due to a run of unfortunate circumstances, neither of our usual EMTs will be able to make it to the Gathering and at the moment we find ourselves in need of promptly recruiting someone.

Please email me at craftydog@dogbrothers.com at your earliest convenience.

Thank you,
Crafty Dog

PS:  For some reason I cannot access FB.  Would someone please paste the above on DBMA FB?  Thank you very much.
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Vigilant Dog on September 15, 2014, 09:24:15 PM
Knife fight sounds good Paul.

Woof,
Dog Dirk
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Vigilant Dog on September 15, 2014, 09:27:47 PM
Greg, I would be up for a staff fight, would have to see if I can borrow one while I am there so.

Woof,
Dog Dirk
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: C-Dancing Dog on September 15, 2014, 11:17:15 PM
I have a great potential for the EMT. Please forward me any details that I should make known to him i.e. compensation etc.
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 16, 2014, 12:33:55 AM
You have email Dog Vinsent.
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: greg jah on September 16, 2014, 09:48:16 AM
Greg, I would be up for a staff fight, would have to see if I can borrow one while I am there so.

Woof,
Dog Dirk

Woof, Dog Dirk!

I already have a staff fight lined up with Eric Taimanglo, so if you don't mind, let's play this one by ear. If I am feeling too beaten up to take a second staff fight, you are welcome to borrow my staff and find someone to play with.

Looking forward to meeting you on Sunday!

Best,

Greg
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: ptrout on September 16, 2014, 10:29:24 AM
Excellent!  Thanks!

Knife fight sounds good Paul.

Woof,
Dog Dirk
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: blindside on September 16, 2014, 04:27:58 PM
It looks like my knife match fell through, anybody want a taste of my aluminum?  (That just doesn't have the same ring to it. :D  )
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Poidog on September 19, 2014, 06:41:17 PM
It is with a heavy heart that I will not be able to fight, or even attend, this years Open Gathering.  As some of you may know, my 1st child, my daughter, was born a little over a week ago by a last minute scheduled c-section.  Feeling that would not be stressful enough, my wife and I also purchased our first home, finalizing yesterday and picking up the keys today.  The movers are scheduled for Monday morning, so we only have this weekend to pack completely for the move.  I wish all the fighters much aloha.  Fight hard, be safe.  Push each other hard, but do not break one another.  Veteran fighters, bring in the novice fighters with the same respectful yet demanding tempering that you were fortunate to receive when you were the novice.  My heart and spirit will be with you, though my body will not.  Sticks high, my friends.

Aloha, Poi
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 19, 2014, 08:08:48 PM
Wwwooofff!!!
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: C-Dancing Dog on September 19, 2014, 11:22:15 PM
@ Poi...the years have brought me to appreciate your tuteledge and presence, I will miss you on the mat yet I am so happy for your family and this incredible time in all your lives!
Title: Pictures
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 22, 2014, 07:13:02 AM
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.10152348572521232&type=1
Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: DDF on September 23, 2014, 10:00:57 AM
A heavy and heartfelt congratulations to all the ascentions in the tribe, and to all who participated.
Title: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack Photos
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 24, 2014, 08:20:40 AM
Photos!

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.10152348572521232&type=1

Title: Re: 9/21/2014 Dog Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack
Post by: greg jah on September 25, 2014, 12:05:01 PM
Woof, everyone!

I just wanted to say thanks to all who participated in this year's Open Gathering.  I was  incredibly inspired by the "heart, mind, and balls" displayed by all who fought. Although I was not happy with my own performance during my stickfight (and a hard shot to my thumb effectively ended my ability to take more fights), I feel like I gained a great deal of insight into my own weaknesses and areas I need to work on.

A special thank you to Guro Beowulf and Darren (C-? Dog) for their fights with me. Gentlemen, it was humbling, inspiring, and motivating to train with you.

And of course, thanks and respect to Guro Crafty, whose vision and guidance brought us all together.

I wish everyone continued growth in their training, and I look forward to seeing and crossing sticks with you next year.

Best,

Greg
Title: Drums?
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 25, 2014, 01:09:57 PM
For a clearer soundtrack of the fights, this Gathering we went without drums.

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