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Title: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on July 09, 2006, 09:51:54 AM
Woof All:

While we have threads dedicated to DBMA's "Kali Tudo" approach to MMA, it occurs to me that we do not have a thread simply dedicated to MMA-- so now we do.

I'll kick things off with some brief comments on last nights UFC:

It was the worst UFC I have ever seen.

Frank Mir looked like an ex-steroid user and was winded halfway into the first round.

Tito came in ready to rock, but rumors credible to me had Ken Shamroid not having trained seriously at all.  To my eye, KS charged and was saved by the ref from the shame of being badly KO'd.  That UFC people would be putting out feelers for another fight between these two is a warning flag as to what this one was.  

AA vs. TS:  What a boring disappointment.  I have liked AA as a fighter a lot-- even though my six year old son thinks that he might be able to beat me  :lol: -- but this was a very poor performance.

AA started well with leg kicks-- which is exactly the strategy I called for him.  Then, for no apparent reason, he stopped kicking and only boxed.  WTF?  Perhaps intimidated by TS's surprise spinning back kick, he stopped moving to the right and stayed in front of TS, and TS even used a long teep to kick him out at the end of his much longer reach.  AA's mobility while striking is very good and TS's is not-- leg kicks were the obvious solution-- but due to an apparent complete dearth of guidance from AA's corner this was not brought to his attention.  In contrast, it would appear that TS was well-prepped by his team (Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin and others)

Not a good fight in the night-- the snippet from Munson's fight they showed was the best moment in the night-- more nights like this from the UFC and they will be in trouble.  The Silva v Liddell fight could be really good though , , ,

Title: MMA
Post by: Guard Dog on July 09, 2006, 10:46:23 AM
Tito came in ready to rock, but rumors credible to me had Ken Shamroid not having trained seriously at all. To my eye, KS charged and was saved by the ref from the shame of being badly KO'd. That UFC people would be putting out feelers for another fight between these two is a warning flag as to what this one was.

I am looking at this as a best case situation for the two of them.  Tito gets the joy of knowing he won while Ken doesn't think the stop was justified.  I can't think of a better way of this fight going.  

Title: MMA
Post by: Howling Dog on July 10, 2006, 10:01:36 AM
Woof, I agree this was the worst UFC card I've seen in awhile. I was disappointed to have bought it.
I was sorry the Ortiz /Shamrock fight didn't last longer, though I think Herb Dean made the right call in stopping the fight.
Had it been any other bout no one would have said boo about that call. during the fight and from the angle we saw the elbows come down it looked to me like Shamrock was knocked out......just the same he was not defending himself.
The TS VS. A.A. fight was a total bore fest, I agree also that for A.A. the leg kick was the ticket and why he stopped it I will never know.
Neither did he fight like a man who wanted to win, esp when it came to the last round.
Silvia did enough to win.....thats about it. My opinion here is with the small gloves and the size of these guys no way should this fight have gone to a decision.......bottom line neither fighter wanted to committ to stepping into and delivering a good hard shot......A boring sparring match was the end result.
I have been hoping for the Lidell  vs. silva fight for some time.  A very intresting match up to say the least.
I don't think they come any tougher than Silva.
Title: MMA
Post by: Michael6343 on July 10, 2006, 10:25:03 AM
LOL...I totally forgot that it was this past weekend....after hearing these reviews and reviews from some buds perhaps I didn't miss much at all and I dang sure saved the PPV cash. Silva vs. Chuck.....hmmmm...I'd say it is a toss up but I will go with Silva he seems to me to be a bit more complete but then again one hammer by Lidell and it is NAP time for Silva. Is there an ETA on that PPV?
Title: MMA
Post by: TomFurman on July 10, 2006, 10:49:07 AM
Silva vs Chuck. Chuck will need Life Insurance.
Fedor vs Tim Silva,..same thing.

I think the ref will have to stop Wanderlei from scalping Chuck after his he destroys him.

Title: MMA
Post by: Sisco T. on July 11, 2006, 02:19:03 PM
i really liked the stevenson/yves edwards fight. i thought they were being really tough on joe stevenson putting him against edwards for his 1st fight @155. edwards IS a world class lightweight and a legit contender for any organization's title. that was nasty cut stevenson gave edwards- edwards was lucky it was on the top of his head, at least giving him a chance to continue.

    it's too bad that ortiz/shamrock fight was stopped fast. i think it was certain that ortiz was well on his way to an easy win over ken s. i just think with that fast stoppage we will now see a ortiz/shamrock III and the continued WWE/childish rivalry that occurs.

     arlovski/tim s. was maybe the biggest let down of a fight i've ever seen. as all have said why did he stop with the leg kicks?!?! doesn't he know how to throw a right straight down the middle? does arlovski only know how to throw an overhand right? on top of that he was throwing an overhand right while moving backwards. i totally agree with guro marc and his questioning about arlovski's corner. one comment i heard them say was, '' andrei, fight your fight.'' what does that mean?!? that guy may be a rickson gracie brown belt and arlovki's bjj teacher, but he is no coach/cornerman. look at sylvia- he was the one throwing legs kicks, even did a spinning back kick, and almost caught arlovski with a high knee to counter one of andrei's MANY right hands. and his corner was giving him CONCRETE coaching about movement, looking for a counter,etc. AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! arlovski should have been all over this guy!
Title: MMA
Post by: Guard Dog on July 12, 2006, 07:51:20 AM
IMO, after the belt was put around his waist the title got to AA's head way too fast and he forgot that fighting was involved in his sport.  He trained like he was at the top with no one worthy to actually take the title.

Title: MMA
Post by: Dog Greg Brown on July 19, 2006, 03:03:44 PM
Def agree. Worst UFC i've seen in some time. I can't wait for kenny florian vs  
sean sherk for the light weight title. Not just becuse I train with him. But I think that it will be a great fight. TUF 4 should be a good one GSP and Randy as coaches with a bunch of seasoned guys. Should be some great action. Anyway It should be a great year for the UFC and MMA in general here in the US

Title: MMA
Post by: Loren on July 19, 2006, 06:29:24 PM
Hmm, I heard through the grapevine that Kenny refused to fight Sean, can you confirm this isn't true?  Is the Sherk vs. Florian fight definitely on?

I'd love to see it but, and no offense to Kenny,  I don't think he's ready for Sean......
Title: MMA
Post by: C-Kumu Dog on July 19, 2006, 06:46:39 PM
I'm really looking forward to the Wanderlei Silva vs Chuck Liddell fight, if it happens.  They both fight before the proposed date and anything can happen. I like Liddell but after watching some clips of Silva there is no doubt that he will have his hands full.  Is there any word through the grapevine or otherwise that Sylvia & Fedor will fight or is it just wishful thinking right now?
Title: MMA
Post by: Loren on July 19, 2006, 07:02:22 PM
I've got no beta on a Silvia vs. Fedor fight, I'm afraid.

Title: MMA
Post by: Loren on July 20, 2006, 10:59:40 AM
As of today, there's no lightweight bout listed on the UFC 62 Fight card, hopefully they'll get something together.
Title: MMA
Post by: Dog Greg Brown on July 20, 2006, 07:50:40 PM
I'm not sure if the fight is set yet. As far as kenny turning that fight down, that is untrue. That is what has been said of Kenny for most of his career. But this will def be the most challening fight he has had. But the odds are pretty even he is a phenominal BJJ player, and everyone keeps underestimating his striking. But on the other hand sherk is a freak, so strong for that size. Not to mention the amazing wrestleing. Time will tell
Title: MMA
Post by: Loren on July 21, 2006, 04:45:25 AM
Cool Greg, that's good to hear. I'd love to see the fight happen, it would be an interesting one.
Title: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on July 22, 2006, 03:59:28 AM
Woof All:

It seems that longtime King of the Cage judge (and coach to many KOTC fighters-- obviously not in fights that he judges!) Lester "Surf Dog" Griffin is going to be a judge at the UFC on August 26th 8)

A howl of congrats to Surf Dog!

The Adventure continues,
Crafty Dog
Title: MMA
Post by: PacquiaoShiEt on July 28, 2006, 05:03:13 AM
Not sure if any of you guys find interest in watching highlight videos, but I figured that it wouldn't hurt to share some of my own work with you guys anyway. I've gotten a lot of good reviews so it might just be worth your spare time, haha. Anyways, enjoy.


The Russian Experiment
features Fedor Emelianenko (Note: There is now a bonus video after the credits that was never there before)
Duration: 7 minutes, 18 seconds
Size: 105MB
Resolution: 856x480 WIDESCREEN;5267142;;/fileinfo.html

2nd Amendment
features Dan Henderson (Note:There is a special bonus video after the credits that I was originally going to have as part of the HL but ended up scrapping the idea.. However, I thought it was too funny to completely leave out so I just seperated it from the rest of the HL)
Duration: 6 minutes, 25 seconds
Size: 93.3MB
Resolution: 856x480;5266366;;/fileinfo.html

Chute Boxe: Rise to Power (Chapter 1)
features Vanderlei Silva
Duration: 6 minutes, 55 seconds
Size: 99.2MB
Resolution: 856x480 WIDESCREEN;5265822;;/fileinfo.html

Chute Boxe: Making of a Champion (Chapter 2)
features Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua
Duration: 5 minutes, 20 seconds
Size: 74.2MB
Resolution: 856x480 WIDESCREEN;5265906;;/fileinfo.html

Chute Boxe: Deadly Alliance (Chapter 3)
features Kazushi Sakuraba and Vanderlei Silva
Duration: 10 minutes, 23 seconds
Size: 149MB
Resolution: 856x480 WIDESCREEN;5266086;;/fileinfo.html

Born-Again Ass Kicker
features Quinton 'Rampage' Jackson (Note:Minor changes made that were not there before)
Duration: 9 minutes, 29 seconds
Size: 139MB
Resolution: 856x480 WIDESCREEN;5266269;;/fileinfo.html

Land of the Rising Sun
features Takanori Gomi, Kazushi Sakuraba, Tatsui Kawajiri, Genki Sudo, Hayoto Sakurai
Duration: 9 minutes, 57 seconds
Size: 144MB
Resolution: 856x480 WIDESCREEN;5267713;;/fileinfo.html

Red Devil Hunter
features Mirko CroCop
Duration: 6 minutes, 4 seconds
Size: 89.4MB
Resolution: 856x480 WIDESCREEN;5267892;;/fileinfo.html

As always, feedback is very appreciated.
Title: MMA
Post by: Poidog on July 28, 2006, 10:57:28 AM
Woof all,

Just a head's up regarding 2 well regarded MMA fighters, Steve Cotter (one of 9 Senior Russian Kettlebell Certified instructors) posted on the Dragon Door forum that Chuck Liddell has contacted him looking for training with KBs for his upcoming fight against Wanderlei Silva.  In addition, Brendan "The Truth" Vera has also gotten in contact with Steve Cotter with an interest towards training with kettlebells.  The Kettlebell Revolution grows.

Aloha, "C-Poi Dog"
Title: MMA
Post by: Dog Greg Brown on August 04, 2006, 04:54:18 PM
One more fight in the LW catagory to look forward to. Local hero Joe Luzon (this kid is awsome. I saw his first fight when he was 17 and his parents had to sign his waver) VS either Jens Pulver or Eyves Edwards
Title: MMA
Post by: wes tasker on August 06, 2006, 08:02:16 PM
I talked to Joe Pomfret last weekend and he said that Joe Lauzon is fighting Jens Pulver....  It should be a good one.

-wes tasker
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: C-Kumu Dog on August 25, 2006, 03:48:43 PM
Im suprised noone added this yet...

BJ Penn and the Ultimate Fighting Championship have come to a contractual agreement that will enable him to fight Matt Hughes for the UFC Welterweight title on September 23rd at UFC 63. broke the story early last week and received confirmation from the UFC today.

After a groin pull forced top 170 pound contender Georges St. Pierre to withdraw from his September 23rd rematch with UFC welterweight champion Matt Hughes at the Arrowhead Pond in Anaheim, California today, the UFC was faced with a dilemma. Who could possibly challenge the champ on short notice and still be compelling enough to get fight fans excited?

The answer was a no-brainer ? the last man to beat Hughes, BJ Penn.

And as one of the top fighters in the world, pound for pound, Penn eagerly accepted the opportunity to make it 2-0 against the premier welterweight of this era, who, for his part, would like nothing better than to settle an old score with Hawaii?s ?Prodigy?.

In 2004, Penn, a highly regarded lightweight contender at the time, scored one of the biggest upsets in mixed martial arts history when he rose 15 pounds in weight to tackle and beat Hughes in his first-ever welterweight bout. The end came at 4:39 of the first round when Penn forced Hughes to tap out due to a rear-naked choke.

On September 23rd, the rivalry is renewed.


As soon as the rumors started to circulate that Georges St. Pierre was dealing with an injury sustained during training for his upcoming title fight with champion Matt Hughes, just about everyone in the sport started talking about possible replacements. None were higher on the list than the last fighter to defeat Hughes, ?The Prodigy? BJ Penn. Now with St. Pierre officially being out, the rematch that everyone was already hoping for is going to happen. At UFC 63, BJ Penn will get his shot to take back the title he never lost when he faces Matt Hughes for the welterweight championship.

For BJ Penn this is the culmination of a very long journey after leaving the UFC under a cloud of controversy and then returning recently to the company where he started his mixed martial arts career. Stepping in on just 4 weeks notice for a title fight is hard for any fighter, but Penn is just happy to get the shot and says it was his plan all along.

?I get to do what I came back to do in the UFC,? said Penn in an exclusive interview with MMAWeekly. ?I got an amazing opportunity to come back. I was going to come back to kick St. Pierre?s ass and then kick Hughes? ass and it got derailed. Now I get to correct that and kick Hughes? ass and then go and kick St. Pierre?s ass.?

The fight with St. Pierre still sticks with Penn who lost a close decision. It was only the third of his professional career and his only loss at 170 pounds. Penn takes nothing away from St. Pierre, but still feels a rematch in the future is necessary.

?He spent the night in the hospital, I spent the night at the bar,? said Penn about the fight with St. Pierre. ?I mean, he?s one of the best guys and I want to fight the top guys and he?s in line for a title shot. There?s no doubt about that. I mean, he?s a good guy and I don?t have anything bad to say about him.?

While the rematch with St. Pierre is sure to happen at some point, the only thing on BJ Penn?s mind right now is Matt Hughes and the chance to win back the UFC welterweight title. Penn was originally slated for a possible move down to 155 pounds with the re-launch of the UFC?s lightweight division, but the opportunity to fight Hughes again and prove that the first win was no fluke is something Penn is looking forward to.

?I?m just happy I?m going to be the champ again,? said a confident BJ Penn. ?I don?t even care about any of that other stuff. I mean, if people say that was a fluke or whatever, it doesn?t really mean anything to me. I was just so happy I got that phone call.?

BJ Penn will now get his shot to take back the 170-pound crown when he faces Matt Hughes in the main event of UFC 63 in Los Angeles on September 23rd.

Source: MMA Weekly

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: migo on August 31, 2006, 12:18:45 AM
I only skimmed over this so I hope it hasn't already been posted, but Arlovski broke his knee in the second round of the fight, which is why he stopped throwing leg kicks. To whoever was saying they'll never know why he stopped; now you actually do.
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: C-Kumu Dog on August 31, 2006, 03:07:46 AM
Woof All:

It seems that longtime King of the Cage judge (and coach to many KOTC fighters-- obviously not in fights that he judges!) Lester "Surf Dog" Griffin is going to be a judge at the UFC on August 26th Cool

A howl of congrats to Surf Dog!

The Adventure continues,
Crafty Dog

Wow, I just re-read the thread I bet being a judge was a lot of fun!


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I only skimmed over this so I hope it hasn't already been posted, but Arlovski broke his knee in the second round of the fight, which is why he stopped throwing leg kicks. To whoever was saying they'll never know why he stopped; now you actually do.
I think he needs better people in his corner too.

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 31, 2006, 05:28:16 AM

You have a source for that?


Title: Re: MMA
Post by: migo on August 31, 2006, 04:04:16 PM
Threads on discussed the injury specifically, although they're long since dead and I'm not a pro member there so I can't drag them up. discusses it, although I wasn't aware of this until you asked for a source so I went digging for it.

Hope it's satisfactory.

Title: Jason Miller wins.. damn i was hoping Lawler would....
Post by: C-Kumu Dog on September 03, 2006, 01:59:23 AM
Per (

Lawler is landing some hard knees to the head of Mayhem and it looks like Mayhem might loose this fight.

Jason "Mayhem" Miller wins with an arm bar! 

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: migo on September 04, 2006, 08:40:41 AM
I was sure he won by arm triangle choke.
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: C-Kumu Dog on September 05, 2006, 03:55:55 PM
Yes a Triangle Choke, but it was initially reported as a armbar at moments after the win.
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 08, 2006, 02:02:26 PM
Surf Dog is judging at the UFC on the 14th!  8-)
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 23, 2006, 06:16:05 PM
Any comments on Pride?

I have not seen it yet, but Hot Dog tells me Erik Paulsen was in Josh Barnett's corner and that Rigan Machado was in Vitor Belfort's corner.
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: TomFurman on October 23, 2006, 08:13:38 PM
Fedor is amazing. Period.
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: C-Kumu Dog on October 23, 2006, 08:48:34 PM
As Fedor gets more popular do you think it will increase the interest in Sambo?
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 08, 2006, 04:55:23 AM

MMAWeekly has learned that Kevin Randleman has been charged by the Nevada State Athletic Commission with providing a fake urine sample for the drug test that he took after his fight on the Pride card in Las Vegas on October 21st.

If he is found to be guilty of these charges, Randleman could face severe disciplinary measures from the athletic commission, which could include a significant fine, a lengthy suspension, or perhaps even permanent revocation of his fighters' license.

All NSAC-sanctioned organizations, including Pride, are required to honor NSAC suspensions for all of their shows throughout the world if they want to continue to be licensed to run events in Nevada.

In the recent history of unarmed combat drug testing in Nevada, one fighter was previously alleged to have provided a fake urine sample, and that fighter's license was flat-out revoked (as opposed to suspended). That fighter was Sean McCully, who tested positive for marijuana and the anabolic steroid nandrolone in September 2004, and then allegedly provided a fake urine sample when he was re-tested in September 2005.

Keith Kizer, the Executive Director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, tells MMAWeekly, "I just spoke with Dr. Hyatt, who said [Randleman's urine] specimen 'flat-lined' for hormones. This allegedly means that the urine was fake, similar to Sean McCully?s case from several months ago."

If it does indeed turn out that the urine sample provided by Randleman did not contain any human hormones, that would mean that it was urine from a dead human or urine from a non-human.

Randleman, who lost to Mauricio "Shogun" Rua by submission on the Pride card in question, will have 20 days to respond to the NSAC's complaint, and then at some point there will be a disciplinary hearing at which Randleman's status will be determined.

Providing fake urine or otherwise trying to defraud the drug testing system is regarded as being just as much of a violation as actually failing a drug test, if not more of a violation.

Randleman now becomes the fourth MMA fighter to fail to pass a drug test in a period of less than two months in the state of Nevada. Stephan Bonnar tested positive for Boldenone, an anabolic steroid used to rehabilitate injured horses, after his fight at UFC 62. At Bonnar's disciplinary hearing last Friday, he admitted that he knowingly took a banned substance, and he was suspended for nine months.

Competing on the same Pride card as Randleman on October 21st, Vitor Belfort and Pawel Nastula also failed their respective drug tests. Belfort tested positive for the anabolic steroid 4-hydroxytestosterone, while Nastula tested positive for the anabolic steroid nandrolone and the banned stimulants phenylpropanolamine, pseudoephedrine, and ephedrine (ironically, the same exact combination of banned substances for which Kimo Leopoldo tested positive after a UFC fight in 2004). The cases of Belfort and Nastula are still pending before the NSAC.

Randleman, Belfort, and Nastula were three of the ten fighters who were drug tested on Pride's October 21st card. Four other fighters on the card were not drug tested. In Bonnar's case, he was one of just four fighters who were drug tested at UFC 62, as there were fourteen fighters on the card who were not drug tested.

According to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, the total cost of drug testing one fighter for all banned steroids, stimulants, and recreational drugs is $278.40. With ticket sales for these events in the millions and with more and more fighters failing to pass their drug tests, a growing number of MMA fans have begun to question the fact that there isn't mandatory drug testing for every single fighter on every single card.
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 08, 2006, 10:35:37 AM


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Los Angeles, CA may be the entertainment capitol of the world but the event that is on everyone's lips is the historic match-up between MMA fighting legend Randy Couture and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) superstar Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza at the Professional Submission League's (PSL) 'X-Mission' on Friday, November 17, 2006. This classic battle, unprecedented in modern times, has brought Randy out of retirement and Jacare into the spotlight as two of the world's finest Mixed Martial Artists collide on the PSL tatame.

?Jacare', the alligator from Manaus, Amazon, Brazil has been causing quite a stir since he arrived in the States. The BJJ Absolute Mundial & ADCC World Submission Champion has been spotted at the Pride Fighting Championships, in Las Vegas and training in dojos all around the Los Angeles area with none other than Mr. Wallid Ismail, the Amazon's first MMA hero.

The PSL crew caught up with the dynamic duo from the great Amazon State as they headed out to the set of Spike TV's Pros vs. Joes in Los Angeles, CA to meet the only man to win UFC titles in two different weight categories, Randy Couture.  At this exclusive on-set meeting the two 'X Mission' main eventers sealed the deal for their highly anticipated match up.

Since retiring from the UFC "The Natural" has been busy as ever with several business projects, a slew of personal appearances, and of course television & film roles. His latest role is in Pros vs. Joes, Spike TV's action-packed sports series that pits a team of average everyday Joes vs. a team of the world's greatest Pros. UFC Hall of Famer Couture was on the set filming the season premiere along with his fellow Pros Michael Irvin (five time NFL Pro Bowler & three time Super Bowl Champion), Glen Rice (three time NBA All Star) and Jose Canseco (six time MLB All Star).

The set came to life as Jacare arrived with his consignor, Mr. Ismail, to meet "The Natural" and face off before the big day. Much respect was exchanged between the two combatants along with the usual pre-match posturing as 'Jacare' informed us that "Randy is a big man and has accomplished many great things but now is my time and he will feel the bite of the alligator."

Jacare seemed to revel in his first visit to a Hollywood set as Randy, the consummate professional, was unfazed by it all and he revealed to us that "I may have retired from fighting but I have not retired from competition. There are many new challenges ahead for me and this is one of them."

Indeed, both men will need to be at their best during the PSL's X-Mission event on Friday, November 17, 2006 at the Culver City Veterans' Memorial.


PSL brings the sport and its athletes into the spotlight where they can be appreciated in a tasteful and upscale environment.  ?X-MISSION? is PSL?s latest event showcasing an international line-up of ?who?s who? and world champion athletes from around the world including Brazil, Japan, Canada, Russia and the United States. To schedule interviews, obtain press credentials and receive more information, call Mario Serrano at (408) 607-5756.


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Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 12, 2006, 06:22:36 AM
Couture?s ?Fighter, a documentary? moves on to the New York Independent Film and Video Festival
After taking ?Best Documentary? at the Foundation for the Advancement of Independent Film International Film Festival in Hollywood, CA. ?FIGHTER, a documentary? has been officially selected to New York International Independent Film and Video Festival (NYIIFVF).
The NYIIFVF is the largest film festival in the world and has been recognized by the film and entertainment industry as one of the leading film events on the independent festival circuit. The festival hosts film, music and art events in the two entertainment capitals of the United States: New York and Los Angeles. The NYIIFVF is known as 'the voice for independent film' and receives extensive media coverage. As indie guru Abel Ferrara famously quoted in an interview with Movie Maker, "This festival is the real deal; everybody else just talks about doing it and these guys just do it."
?FIGHTER, a documentary? has been quietly changing people?s perceptions about mixed martial arts fighting, its athletes and their motivation. Set in the late ?90 the film captures a slice of sports history as UFC Hall of Famer, Randy "The Natural" Couture transitions from US National team wrestler to MMA fighting legend. Shot by award winning filmmaker Pericles Lewnes, ?FIGHTER a documentary? provides a riveting myriad of perspectives from analysis by World Cup gold medalist turned MMA guru Rico Chiapparelli to a young mothers first experience inside the octagon , the film deftly captures the skill, dedication, rivalry, camaraderie, and tremendous mutual respect among these ?ultimate athletes?.
?Fighter, a documentary? is scheduled to screen Monday, November 13, 2006 at the Village East Cinema at 181 2nd Ave (& 12th St.) in NYC at 8pm. For free movie clips and more info on fighter please go to
Post by: C-Kumu Dog on November 13, 2006, 02:13:33 PM
Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - by Matt Hill -

Well this is actually old news....

UFC doctors have verified the rib injury that Penn believed he sustained during the second round of his fight with Matt Hughes, according to The injury has been found to be a fracture of Penn?s costochondral junction.

According to the findings of physician Sameer Nagda, MD, ?There is evidence of a fracture of the right tenth costochondral junction with evidence of surrounding soft tissue edema and fluid consistent with moderate grade muscle strains of the intercostals and oblique musculature in the region of fracture.?

According to, the costochondral junction is, ?The point where the ribs articulate with the sternum.? What this essentially means is that during his fight with Hughes, Penn sustained a fracture of the connective tissue between his ribs and the sternum. This injury is considered to be a rib fracture.

Penn?s web site says, ?While in Las Vegas for UFC 64, BJ met with the UFC?s orthopedic surgeon and sports medicine doctor in Las Vegas for a physical exam and diagnostic MRI study of his ribs and oblique muscles on his right side. The report verified and substantiated exactly what happened to BJ at the end of the second round when he thrusted up and around to gain Matt?s back. During this upward and twisting movement, BJ pulled/tore internal muscles located inside and around the bottom right rib and fractured the rib. As explained, this type of trauma can and will cause a constriction of his right lung, leading to a substantially diminished breathing capacity.?

This new report verifies what has thus far been a disputed claim of injury by BJ Penn in the weeks following his UFC 64 loss to Matt Hughes.
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 30, 2006, 07:04:40 AM
Surf Dog is judging the 12/30 show of the UFC 8-)
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: bjung on December 01, 2006, 05:50:06 AM
cool. here's something that's been on my mind. it always seems that there is a bunch of contraversy regarding decisions in MMA. partly because people are fans, but also because sometimes the judging criteria seems vague. it's great that martial artists like surf dog are judges (cecil peoples makes me shudder), and I remember that Guro Crafty was a UFC judge a few years back. Although it might not be appropriate for Surf Dog to post his judging criteria, I was wondering how you or how you think judges should score fights. Should they weigh striking and grappling equally? How do you you consider grappling defense and escapes? Are counter fighters damned due to a lack of "octagon control"?
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Guard Dog on December 19, 2006, 12:54:16 PM
Crafty & Pretty Kitty,
  Any chance we will see some DBMAA Board shorts in 2007?  :-D  I for one would buy them!  Anyone else?

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 19, 2006, 04:46:56 PM
Ummm, , , , What are board shorts? :oops:
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Guard Dog on December 19, 2006, 05:04:03 PM
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 19, 2006, 06:33:24 PM

I have those.

How would I go about having some with our logo done on them at a reasonable price?

Email me at
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Guard Dog on December 19, 2006, 06:36:31 PM
Email sent.
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: armydoc on December 19, 2006, 10:26:17 PM
Crafty & Pretty Kitty,
  Any chance we will see some DBMAA Board shorts in 2007?  :-D  I for one would buy them!  Anyone else?


I'd buy them!  :-)

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 25, 2006, 11:50:40 AM
"Warrior Nation" MMA series on MSNBC premieres January 9th
Press Release: Dec 20, 2006

MSNBC's "Warrior Nation," takes viewers inside the world of MMA, mixed
martial arts, beginning January 9th at 10 p.m. ET. MMA, one of the
fastest-growing sports in the nation, combines various fighting styles
including wrestling, boxing, Tai Kwon Do, Karate and submission
grappling. It's a "no-holds-barred" combat sport that has become a
successful enterprise throughout the world and has been called "the
next NASCAR." Each episode opens the door to the lives of fighters and
the struggles that they endure in this popular sport. Veteran fighters,
such as Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz, fans favorites, including Urijah
Faber, as well as up-and-coming fighters, are portrayed. The four-part
series airs each week on consecutive Tuesdays, beginning January 9th at
10 p.m. ET. "Warrior Nation" is the first of two documentary series
produced by 29 Stories LLC for MSNBC.

"'Warrior Nation' is not just about fighting," says Long-Form
Programming Vice President Michael Rubin, "it's about a quickly growing
American phenomenon; the millions of fans and tens of thousands of
young athletes who gravitate to this new sport, hoping to springboard
from obscurity to celebrity, using the most basic of tools--their
bodies and fists."

Episode One, which airs January 9th at 10 and 11 p.m. ET, follows
Urijah Faber and Enoch Wilson. 27-year-old Faber is the number one MMA
fighter in his weight class in the nation and one of the best in the
world. A college graduate, he fights and trains full-time, has 14
career wins and over $100,000 in prize money. Wilson, a 26-year-old
high school drop-out and single dad with 8 career wins, works at a
plastics factory to support his training and his 14-month-old daughter.

The Following Tuesday evening, January 16th, in episode two we meet
Erin Toughill. At 29-years-old, she is one of the top women fighters in
the world. Toughill's husband, Clark Bevans, a 32-year-old gym owner,
also participates in MMA fighting. Together, they hope to become the
first couple in the world to fight on the same night - and win.

Episode Three, airing January 23rd, unites two rivals for their second
head-to-head fight. Gina Carrano and Elaina Maxwell meet at Strikeforce
in San Jose, California. Carrano, the underdog, plans on repeating her
previous win over Maxwell, but Maxwell, who has been training under
Cung Le, the World Kickboxing Champion, expects to even the score.
Nonetheless, both women won't take this fight lying down.

Airing January 30th, episode four dives deep into the organization of
the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC). The episode features two
up-and-coming fighters, Steve Byrnes and Logan Clark, who have recently
earned their first shot at fighting, as well as two celebrity veterans
of the UFC, Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz. UFC President Dana White also
explains his struggles and plans to Make MMA legal in all 50 states.
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 28, 2006, 11:13:03 PM
I think Surf Dog is judging at the UFC again this weekend.  8-)

Any predictions on any of the fights?
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: C-Kumu Dog on December 29, 2006, 01:27:50 PM
Im thinking Chuck will win but Tito appears to be rejuvanated and Im sure Chuck has kept this in mind.  This should be an excellent fight.

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Guard Dog on December 29, 2006, 01:59:33 PM
I think Chuck will win although I want Tito to win.

Forrest by decision.

AA although I think Pe De Pano has a good chance at winning this one if AA fights like he did last time.

Chris Leben, he is fired up from his last lost.


Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 29, 2006, 05:42:39 PM
After the last season of Ulitmate Fighter I have come to like TO.  Psychologically and emotionally he seems to be in a good place for this fight, and this is always very important.  That said, I don't see where he has a stronger link in his chain than CL.  Liddell has a very large bubble-- he hits hard and long range while moving.  This forces the iniitiation of a closing from further away.  He is very hard to take down and he is very hard to keep down-- he has an excellent skill set for returning to his feet.
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Bandolero on December 30, 2006, 07:33:20 AM
UFC Celebrates a Landmark Year
Mixed Martial Arts Attracts Growing Audience and Sparks Rival Organizations

By Andrew Levine
Special to The Washington Post
Saturday, December 30, 2006; E02

In 2006, the Ultimate Fighting Championship entered the realm of mainstream sports. Gate revenue for its nine events brought in between $1.9 million and $3.3 million per card, its reality television show, "The Ultimate Fighter," is Spike TV's highest-rated program, and a UFC event on Spike in October drew higher ratings among males 18 to 34 than Game 1 of baseball's American League Championship Series.

"We've caught lightning in a bottle with this thing," UFC President Dana White said.

Not surprisingly, others have joined in on the country's mixed martial arts, or MMA, boom that UFC has spurred. Japan's Pride Fighting Championships recently hosted its first event in the United States, the newly formed Elite Xtreme Combatwill host its first card on Showtime in February and various other organizations have locked up their own television and pay-per-view contracts.

"As the years go on, I see MMA overtaking boxing," said Gary Shaw, a longtime boxing promoter and president of EliteXC. "The demographic from [ages] 18-36 is huge and boxing does not appeal to those demos. [Boxing] is having trouble putting fans in the seats, but MMA can really turn fans out. It's a phenomenon."

But MMA's newfound popularity could create new problems. Mixed martial arts currently operates in a system where the company that promotes and hosts the cards also has the fighters participating under contract. And although big-money super-fights occur rarely because of disagreements between promoters, boxing still has the freedom to put the two best fighters from the same weight class together for the sort of bout that satiates fans and benefits the promoters and the boxers.

"If these new promoters come in and do not have success, that's a bad thing," said Josh Gross, editor of, the country's largest Web site devoted to mixed martial arts. "Eventually they're all going to have to come together. Otherwise, there's going to be too much money left on the table.

"The best fighters have to fight each other. In the end that's what it's about. If the best fighters don't fight each other, you really will have meaningless fights and boring, repetitive matchups. It'll take away from the credibility of the sport."

The UFC has put together this kind of fight to end its landmark year. Tonight's UFC 66 card at Las Vegas's MGM Grand Garden Arena matches two of the sport's biggest names -- light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz.

Of the UFC's competitors, only Pride has a comparable talent pool, and although wildly popular overseas, it has put on just one show in the United States and its financial stability has come into question after its TV contract in Japan fell apart earlier this year. EliteXC was publicly launched just over two weeks ago, on Dec. 14.

Shaw, who promoted the boxing match between Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis in 2002, said EliteXC will have an open-door policy with respect to bringing in outside fighters while each of the company's own fighters has a clause in his contract to compete under other organizations.

Ultimately though, the UFC will have the final say, given its stature as the country's preeminent MMA organization. To that end, the UFC appears headed in a direction that would attempt to bring almost all the top talent under its roof.

The UFC recently purchased the contracts of the now defunct World Fighting Alliance (giving the UFC the rights to Quinton Jackson, the last man to defeat Liddell), which sought to compete with the UFC but only put on one show, and bought the established World Extreme Cagefighting, which will operate as a separate entity from the UFC.

UFC also has its ever-expanding programming deal with Spike, which runs midway through 2008. Spike can no longer buy advertising time on ESPN for its UFC programming because ESPN "views us as competition," said Brian Diamond, Spike's senior vice president of sports and specials.

"Nobody knows this business better than we do," White said. "When we bought this thing [in 2001] it was the most unattractive thing. So unattractive that people didn't view it as a sport. Now you have all these [companies] that are jumping in, but we're the guys who know."

For the burgeoning organizations, long-term success may hinge heavily on creativity. The International Fight League, which launched earlier this year and airs on Fox Sports Net, opted for a team format instead of the traditional boxing model with the hopes of zeroing in on a different part of the MMA market.

"If [new companies] are not different enough and they don't offer something special they're going to be in for a rude awakening," said Kurt Otto, CEO of IFL.

It's a way of "competing, but not competing directly" with the UFC, Otto said.

White agrees.

"I don't look at a lot of these guys as competition," White said. "It's always going to happen. You've got all these other companies out there and when they're all gone in the next year and a half, there are going to be two more new ones."

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: pau on January 02, 2007, 10:22:24 PM
board shorts..... i want some hehehe  :-D

nice figth from ortis and chuck ^^ i dident have a fav (hard to chose) so i just wached hehe

any 1 can direct me to some MMA training vids  apart from the DBMA one ofcurce  :? its hard to go to a GOOD school in mex  :x i have some Muay Thai  profetional and some jujitsu

porfetional friends but TO FAR APART and WAY to expensive (even for good friend prices) >_<
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 08, 2007, 09:44:57 PM
CroCop=Croatian Cop
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 14, 2007, 06:55:02 PM
I've heard that Randy Couture has come out of retirement to fight Tim Sylva for the UFC title?  Can someone confirm or deny?

Interesting match up!!! 

As always, RC has looked fit and strong during his recent commentating.  He competed in Rico Chiapparelli's PSL (Porfessional Submission League).  In short, he may still be sharp.  The question is one of strategy-- how does he solve Tim's size and structure?

I confess to routing for RC-- which is always bad for level-headed assessment.  That said, off the top of my head what occurs to me is that he uses a similar game to his first fight against Vitor Belfort:  High hands putting elbows in VB's striking trajectory, thus nullifying VB's blazing hand speed (at least at that point in his career)   Could this be a solution to Tim's reach, thus enabling a high line close to RC's strong suit in Greco-Roman structures instaed of getting sprawled as did , , , what was that thick guy's name that Tim just beat?

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: armydoc on January 14, 2007, 10:04:25 PM

I've heard that Randy Couture has come out of retirement to fight Tim Sylva for the UFC title?  Can someone confirm or deny?

---I heard the same.

Interesting match up!!! 

---I have mixed feelings about it.   Lets say RC wins.   Is he prepared to stick around and defend his title?   

I confess to routing for RC-- which is always bad for level-headed assessment.  That said, off the top of my head what occurs to me is that he uses a similar game to his first fight against Vitor Belfort:  High hands putting elbows in VB's striking trajectory, thus nullifying VB's blazing hand speed (at least at that point in his career)   Could this be a solution to Tim's reach, thus enabling a high line close to RC's strong suit in Greco-Roman structures instaed of getting sprawled as did

---Could work.   Could also take some damaging shots trying to get to the inside.

, , , what was that thick guy's name that Tim just beat?

---Jeff Monsoon

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Guard Dog on January 15, 2007, 06:34:41 AM
Randy announced it on his web site and Inside the UFC  :-D  I'm looking forward to this one!

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 04, 2007, 07:24:43 AM
Comments on last night?

Mine:  If they are going to be doing this once a month and charging $50 a show, that's $600 a year and that's more than I want to spend on this, especially shows like last nights show, which for me was a disappointment.

Concerning Silva's downward elbows to the head, I found this description of the rules on another site:


1. Butting with the head. 2. Eye gouging of any kind. 3. Biting. 4. Hair pulling. 5. Fish hooking. 6. Groin attacks of any kind. 7. Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent. 8. Small joint manipulation. 9. Striking to the spine or the back of the head. 10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow. 11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea. 12. Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh. 13. Grabbing the clavicle. 14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent. 15. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent. 16. Stomping a grounded opponent. 17. Kicking to the kidney with the heel. 18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck. 19. Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area. 20. Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent. 21. Spitting at an opponent. 22. Engaging in an unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to an opponent. 23. Holding the ropes or the fence. 24. Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area. 25. Attacking an opponent on or during the break. 26. Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee. 27. Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat. 28. Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee. 29. Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury. 30. Interference by the corner. 31. Throwing in the towel during competition.


Rule 10 certainly sounds to me like Silva's strikes were illegal.

Also I note Rule 17, which certainly hurts guard game for no good reason I can discern.

Rule 13 reminds me of a story about Dog Bro legend, Chris "the Tree that Walks" Poznik  :wink:

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Guard Dog on February 04, 2007, 07:43:00 AM
I am really looking forward to posting all my thoughts on last night but I don't have much time right now so I'll just start with Silvia.  His strikes were not illegal.  Downward elbows (also known as "spike elbows") come from the top down onto the top of the head.  Anderson Silva's elbows were what I consider back elbows.  From the view of over top it looks like he is striking to the top of the head but they were all to the forehead of TL (if my memory serves me) scraping across.  I thought they were illegal at first as well but watching the replays I saw why the ref did not jump in.  One of the reasons they made the rule against the downward elbow is because of how easy it is to cut the top of the head and end a fight; not very fun to watch.  In addition, for it to be a downward elbow (reason for the name "spike elbow) is you need to either be hitting the top of the head or have all your weight behind the strike such as in a raining dog  :-D

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: peregrine on February 04, 2007, 06:31:28 PM
Zuffa definately has turned his pet project(ufc) into a multimillion dollar scheme. Fortunately i didn't have to pay for this one, the last one, or the next one.  :-D

I was dissapointed in the last 5 fights. Mostly cause i wanted to see Silva and Crocop do what they do best... mt and ktfo their opponents with mt.
The footwork was the norm, i remember nothing extraordinary.
Rampage appeared slightly off his game initially, but took control in the latter part. If i remember correctly the hockey punch did his opponent in. Great streetfight move, lots of options- plum, greco, snap, etc...
On replay the Huerta-Halverson fight looked like the Hurricane caught a knee/shin across the neck...carotid ko.
Crocop - he looked like a monster as always, devastating power, i was hoping for a lhk stand up ko.
Silva- his opponent was open for that flying knee, timing was slightly off so he got put off balance. Excellent ground defense, and ability to regain his feet. On the triangle, anyone know why he didn't try for various subs-choke,arm,shoulder? or finish that choke by swiveling his hips? I am clueless about bjj.
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Guard Dog on February 04, 2007, 06:49:30 PM
On the triangle, anyone know why he didn't try for various subs-choke,arm,shoulder? or finish that choke by swiveling his hips?

Travis had great triangle defense  :-D; AS was really trying for locks such as the kimura.  As for him squeezing; I believe he was as much as he could and again TL's defense was blocking the hip so he could not rotate more into the triangle.  Also, let's not forget that less than two months ago AS had both ACL's replaced.  This also explains his lack of mobility in this fight and his timing being a bit off.  I think the lack in mobility was the reason for him getting taken down as much as he did.

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: armydoc on February 05, 2007, 11:04:07 PM
I just got to watch it last night when it was rebroadcast on AFN.  I was a little disappointed as well.  Wasn't GSP supposed to defend his title against Matt Sera?   What happened to that?  The commentators never mentioned it and its not on the card for the March event.  I thought Silva's elbows were legal as well because they were "back" elbows that were horizontal to the floor and not the crushing downward elbows that Tony Jaa likes to use in his movies.  :-)   It seemed to me that Lutter was more than a bit off of his game after trying and failing to make weight.   Sanchez had no business being in the ring with Crop Cop.  That was a straight-up "highlight reel" fight...a gimmee for Crop Cop.   Did anyone else think it was ironic when Crop Cop entered the arena to the Pride theme song?  :-)  I thought the best fight of the event was the lightweights.   Hopefully organizations like Pride and UFC will start giving the smaller guys more air time. 

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: bjung on February 07, 2007, 05:25:21 AM
i think GSP got injured during training. i think he and serra are fighting in march? anyone????
as far as lightweights i think BJ is moving down to 155 and he is slated to fight pulver at the end of TUF 5...

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Guard Dog on February 07, 2007, 06:20:19 AM
I just ordered showtime so I can watch the fights this weekend, they are scheduled on the DVR!

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 07, 2007, 07:08:35 AM
Who is FS fighting?
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Guard Dog on February 07, 2007, 05:47:17 PM
Renzo Gracie.  :-D
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 07, 2007, 10:38:08 PM
Hmmm.  I'd like to see that , , ,  Analysis anyone?
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: bjung on February 08, 2007, 06:51:11 AM
Renzo is sly, but frank has crisp striking and superior conditioning. i don't think renzo can take him down. it could look like frank vs. jeremy horn or frank vs. elvis sinosic, but i really think frank can outstrike renzo on the feet or the ground. 
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Guard Dog on February 08, 2007, 06:57:31 AM
Renzo by standing choke.  :wink:

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: C-Kumu Dog on February 08, 2007, 12:09:57 PM
This is from (

 Strikeforce and EliteXC have reached a deal which will allow them to co-promote cards on Showtime. Showtime will do a joint broadcast in April when Frank Shamrock and Phil Baroni fight in Strikeforce.

Also from


By Loretta Hunt

The arrival of heavyweight Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic to the Ultimate Fighting Championship last Saturday could possibly be looked at in future years as the turning point for mixed martial arts in America.

At first, it appeared Zuffa LLC. was making no attempts to hide the fact they had swayed the Croatian striker away from what has been regarded, in recent years, as the number one MMA promotion in the world– PRIDE Fighting Championships. Curiously, the 2006 Open-Weight Champion entered the Mandalay Bay Events Center to the familiar sound of the beating drums of the juggernaut Japanese promotion. (UFC president Dana White would later proclaim Cro Cop picked the music himself.)

Patches of the nearly 11,000 in attendance rose in salute, the bodies swathed in their hero’s signature red-and-white checkers, Croatian flags waving with pride.

The former K-1 kickboxer turned PRIDE Open-Weight Champion and now instant UFC heavyweight contender did what was expected of him, UFC president White said afterwards, dismantling undefeated challenger Eddie Sanchez (8-1) with an array of punches and kicks, before taking mount and getting the stoppage with only 30 seconds left on the first round clock.

At the post-fight press conference, White addressed Filipovic’s absence from the podium as “fucking frustrating,” saying he and his 2-year, six-fight acquisition had already “butted heads” on the subject.

Not so ironically, it iwill be Cro Cop’s reclusive ways that will attract more of the curious fan’s attention to him. The UFC has always wanted a stone-faced assassin and the mystique he wields will make him that much more tempting to avoid.

In a country where most fighters thrive on getting interviewed, the rarity of Cro Cop’s voice into a microphone will garner him the most notice of all.

One person who did get to interact with Filipovic and his entourage was referee John McCarthy.

McCarthy says Filipovic’s manager Ken Imai approached him at the event’s weigh-ins, and tucked behind a curtain, away from the eye of some 1,000 spectators on the other side of it, Cro Cop took his first steps into the Octagon.

“He was a very humble and straightforward guy,” says McCarthy, who went over Nevada’s rules variations with the man only familiar with the roped square and a seemingly more brutal arsenal of finishes.

“His big thing was if a fighter went down, he wanted to know where he could he kick and stomp,” explains McCarthy. The 13-year veteran official instructed Filipovic that stomps were illegal, but axe kicks (which are thrown on an angle and not directly downward to the body) were not.

“He asked, ‘If he did an elbow that was illegal what would happen?’” says McCarthy. “He was very pleasant the whole time. I just think he likes to keeps close to himself and those close to him.”

Filipovic’s knowledge of McCarthy hints the foreign fighter had years of UFC viewing under his belt. “He told me, ‘I remember watching you in 1995 when I was an amateur boxer. You were in the cage with two crazy men. I guess now I’m a crazy man’” McCarthy recalls.

And what did McCarthy glean from the dangerous kickboxer’s performance Saturday night?

“The Octagon is a bigger surface area,” says McCarthy. “I think Mirko was using the same footwork he’s always used and that caused some problems for him when he tried to cut Sanchez off.”

The motivation to improve appears to be there. Before leaving for his 18-hour journey back to his homeland, Filipovic asked McCarthy for a recommendation to import a cage to him there.

Filipovic has been announced to fight again at April 21’s UFC event in Manchester, England. An opponent has not been named.

POSTED -- 02/08/07
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: C-Kumu Dog on February 11, 2007, 09:18:34 AM
So did anyone watch the fight?  I read about the outcome but wanted to hear others opinions.
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Guard Dog on February 11, 2007, 10:52:03 AM
I watched them last night and I'm gonna review them again later on today (DVR  :-D ). 

Crazy Horse, behind all his show boating is one heck of a fighter.  Noon's stand up however was solid and his leg kicks were so fast. 

I honestly think that Gina C. could hang with many male fighters in her weight class, she is a true fighter and in many cases her form and technique is cleaner than a lot of pro fighters in MMA.  While this fight still had a little bit of a "cat fight" feel I think both Julie and Gina portrayed women's fighting very well and I am looking forward to seeing them again.

David L. was totally out of his game and got babied IMHO.  I am not sure what happened but many people are saying that he hasn't been right since RF beat him and in my opinion that was a battle in itself.  He should not feel bad for losing to RF.

Regarding Shamrock and Gracie I think this was some quick thinking on Renzo's behalf and was more show than anything.  The strikes IMO were more to the shoulder / carotid and not to the back of the head.  Regardless I think he was doing a good job in the fight until this happened, I would however have to say it was pretty even until this happened.

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 11, 2007, 04:38:16 PM

I was very curious to see this fight.  It turned out to be interesting/weird on several levels.  With only one viewing, here is what I saw:

FS dominated striking range, but RG was able to close precisely and takedown confidently with good technical BJJ technique three times.  Perhaps I reveal my ignorance, but RG's side control seemed very high to me, which seemed to faciliate FS's knees from bottom.  Were FS's many knees from bottom effective?  Couldn't tell, but RG seemed able to ignore them and use the space for working for mount-- perhaps the reason for what seemed to me to be a high side control?

I did not sense that FS felt concerned that RG had side control.  His punches to the back of the head, until they were stopped as a violation of the rules, seemed to annoy RG.  The arm position also seemed a violation of BJJ basic rules 101.  It looked like RG had FS's arm in a position to think about a far arm bar or a V-lock/Americano or a Kimura, but he was not going for it , , , yet?  OTOH, I have seen FS in a backroom roll with some of Rigan Machado students and Rigan himself several years ago as was very impressed with his movement and the tremendous mental fluidity of structure transitions, so may RG felt that although he had "good" position that maybe he was not able to claim the position''s theoretical advantage?

When they came, what caught my attention about the DQing knees was the very fact that they came.  The very fact that they occurred from under one of the better side controls to found in this world is actually quite remarkable.    Since the rules said back of the head/neck was off limits, then those were the rules and, given the prior warning for stikes to the back of the head, then Referee Herb Dean's call seems appropriate.

Still, especially in the context of the "Shamrock Family vs. the Gracie Family" marketing angle played by the promoters, it was interesting to note that it was Cesar Gracie, who recently lost very badly to FS in an oddly matched fight, speaking for Renzo after the fight and to hear that Renzo's brother Ralph was there too.  There was a fight many years ago (10? 12?) when either Renzo or Ralph stepped on a submitted opponent's head after a fight and the other one spit on a defeated opponent.  In both cases they immediately acknowledged that in the American context these things were simply not right, apologized and vowed it would never happen again-- which it didn't (Tangent:  Tito Ortiz did the step-on-the-defeated-opponent's-head thing in his first UFC fight.  BJ McCarthy slammed him up against the fence and put him in his place).    At any rate, 10-12 years ago who would have thought that Cesar would be speaking on Renzo's behalf for the enforcement of rules-- or else it would be just some sort of "barfight"?

As to assessing RG's post-knees behavior, I could be wrong (not for the first or last time) but somehow something there did not ring true for me , , ,

The Adventure continues,
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: C-Kumu Dog on February 15, 2007, 11:08:59 AM
Anyone know if Showtime will replay? If they do I think Ill subscribe. I for one would like to watch the fight.

Any other good fights on the card?
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Guard Dog on February 15, 2007, 12:09:08 PM
Yes there are tons of reruns; I just watched them again.  Check your listings.

Title: Re: MMA
Post by: C-Kumu Dog on February 15, 2007, 02:32:05 PM
Excellent, im calling the cable company to suscribe!   

I was over at ( and read that Kurt Angle might be throwing down in the ring / octogon sometime this year.. his contract with TNA allows him to fight in MMA BUT only if they (TNA) find it "good" for him.
Title: Re: MMA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 19, 2014, 07:16:58 PM
Title: UFC 171 - Shields X Lombard
Post by: Stickgrappler on March 19, 2014, 05:44:19 PM
I've made 8 animated GIFs from the UFC 171 welterweight match - Jake Shields X Hector Lombard. Lombard displayed some of his Olympic Judo skills to good effect!
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Title: Shame on RFA!!!
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 14, 2014, 09:54:43 AM