Dog Brothers Public Forum

Just using this as a place to work on a new Rambling Rumination until I have access to my own computer:


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Woof All:


In a superficial way, I've been around firearms for a while now (since about 2004?) and have had some training with some instructors of note, but given that I lived in Los Angeles there were practical barriers to putting in the proper training.   The tendency has been that good lessons tended to gradually vaporize in the absence of proper follow up.

Today I began my firearms training with Sean O'Dowd.

Over the years I have had a number of "first lessons" with a variety of instructors of note and as I was driving home I found myself reflecting on just how influential first lessons with great teachers can be.

PUNONG GURO EDGAR SULITE

In 1989 at a Pekiti Tirsia camp in Tennessee Guro Inosanto introduced me to Punong Guro Edgar Sulite, who had just arrived from the Philippines, and suggested I train with him.

We met at my house in Hermosa Beach.   My first lesson with PG Edgar consisted of two parts.

Knowing of my path with the Dog Brothers (then in a very early stage of development) he read my way of looking things and so he put the Lameco handguard that he had designed on me.  For those not familiar with it, it is both very protective and allows for complete wrist mobility.  The sticks we used were sort of padded and the sparring called for hitting the hand only.

I had never experienced anything like it.   He had crisp, utterly non-telegraphic striking from stillness unlike anything I had ever experienced.  I was utterly dominated.  Despite the strong protective qualities of  the hand guard and the padding on the sticks, my hand was to be swollen for a couple of weeks after.

With that settled, the lesson moved on to beginning the striking patterns he called "Eskrima 1-12".  Later on, when I asked him why he did not call then "Lameco 1-12" he answered "Oh, everyone has these" but somehow the only other system I have seen that did was Kali Illustrisimo, a system of  major  influence on him, so when I teach them in DBMA (I teach only the first five) I name them Lameco 1-5.

For me what made them different was that though like the four PTK power strokes I had learned from Eric (the hourglass that formed tape one of the first Dog Brothers tape in 1993)  they were both vertical and horizontal instead of the diagonal with which most FMA systems begin, they taught going from the horizontal to the vertical with remarkable efficiency, and they integrated footwork (the Ilustrisimo Cross Step) from the very first strokes of the stick. 

Though he did not seem to be moving that fast, somehow I struggled to keep up.  I experienced that, unlike him, my feet were slower than my stick.  Over time I came to understand that this played a major role in how had so decisively handled . 

Those who have trained with me will recognize deep themes from my teaching about "the one for one relationship" between feet and weapon(s), the emphasis on the vertical and horizontal plane of motion and the articulation of the diagonal as a combination of the two, and the use of the Ilustrisimo Cross Step in both stick and empty hand fighting-- all these were present in my first  lesson.

CARLOS MACHADO  and BJJ:

Though we had no idea of what we were doing and though it was well before the UFC Revolution of 1993, from the days of the pre-Dog Brothers "After Midnight Group" at the Inosanto Academy (1986-88)  we allowed grappling.  Propelled by underground video, rumors of Gracie Jiu Jitsu had floated around for a few years, and under Yorinaga Nakamura Japanese Shootfighting was beginning to make an appearance.  Inosanto Academy friend Chris Haueter, who over the years has risen to 5th degree BB under Rigan Machado introduced me to the five Machado Brothers in the summer of 1990.

The classic BJJ teaching progression begins with countering the mount position, but my immediate problems were Salty Dog Arlan Sanford, whose strength greatly exceeded mine, grabbing me by the head and throwing me down and Top Dog Eric Knaus bowling me over with a flying roof block and fang choking me out of a head lock (kesa gatame) on the ground.

To be continued

$14 million cut from police budget.  100 officets have left, not replaced.  Police response rate dreadful.  500 shot, twice the rate of 2019.  Murder rate up 50%.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/11/minneapolis-facing-higher-crime-police-exodus-six-months-after-george-floyds-death/

This too please:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqsQrcVCB-0&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0KwIGqBM5Pm41o9DyNvYuKsXbSo7CkEv6zv0vylxhc4HW9TWaFMSDULCo

GM:

For some reason I cannot get into the Assn forum at this time.  May I ask you to post the following in the Boxing thread and the relevant Dracula thread?

Thank you,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP-epyt8cHA&fbclid=IwAR3fErk4Ryg6Wlu26t66WDxon3RvF1cak8mb2mkTGkjVQcWL0Y7eSS1nyaA

GM:

At the moment I cannot get into the DBMA Assn forum.  May I ask you to post the preceding on a relevant thread and to let the guys know I should be back online in the next day or so?

TY

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on August 04, 2020, 12:48:47 PM

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/aurora-police-detain-black-family-after-mistaking-their-vehicle-as-stolen

"I totally understand that anger, and don’t want to diminish that anger, but I will say it wasn’t a profiling incident. It was a hit that came through the system"

The problem IMHO is presumed guilty police tactics.  Police should, in my view, shoot the plate scanner or the radar gun AFTER they observe the vehicle do something wrong, not shoot every car just for being there.

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on July 24, 2020, 10:30:22 AM

A completely separate point.

Mine is that the caterwauling of the Progs-BLM-Antifa-Pravdas is more effective with many citizens because in their eye the uniforms being used are those of military.

I would like to see an end to military style camos for LE.

Citizens deserve clear visual distinctions between military and civilian.

https://reason.com/2020/07/21/rand-paul-its-time-to-demilitarize-the-police/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAZ9NLfsQgY

https://pjmedia.com/columns/megan-fox/2020/06/02/we-dont-have-a-racism-problem-we-have-a-deep-state-problem-the-hideous-police-killing-of-duncan-lemp-n484233

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/28/east-lake-street-business-owner-under-arrest-after-1-man-killed-by-gunfire-during-george-floyd-protests/

This thread once again touches on what I would call the "knighthood".  In another thread I asked you the question "Are there Knights?"  I think this thread has given me the insight on your answer to this question.   Knights, by my definition at least, couple capacity with character and nobility and that is what I think you are talking about.

This may sound naive or goofy, but I BELIEVE in this.   I think that capacity (realistic ability) coupled to character is ultimately stronger than the shadow.  I do not mean that bad guys cannot clobber good guys (at times).  THAT would be naive.  What I mean is that the knighthood that you speak of builds people up, makes them stronger, creates comrades that can be trusted, and builds a network of people who collectively create strength among themselves and others.    The shadow side may result in individuals who are temporarily powerful but who eventually fall because they base what they do on fear and suspicion and greed. That kind of strength feeds on itself and eventually breaks down.  Character matters in real ways.

In this day and age something out there tries to convince us that this is not true.  Maybe the contest between faith in character and doubt and fear has always been there.  In fact I am pretty sure it has.  If it weren't for that  "the Tao wouldn't be what it is" so to speak.

Karsk

Look at Alabama:

https://omny.fm/shows/the-conservative-conscience-with-daniel-horowitz-1/ep-535-this-attorney-general-has-had-enough-of-the

Yeah Jarrod got an agreement for crime bill
and Trump can go around saying

"I helped Black people ";

For some reason Dan does not state the elephant in the room:

prison reform from the point of view of the right is mostly if not solely to get more votes from minorities

Fine, but that said

I agree with him. Crime will go up at the expense of the rest of this.

We shall see , and I promise I will not say I told those who are excited about this : I told you so!

https://combatsportslaw.com/2019/08/17/study-only-9-minutes-of-boxing-sparring-results-in-acute-and-transient-brain-changes/?fbclid=IwAR2fnWpO2rIgtu6Epl8V9Op7ZNcaENmCBH6udolPqpjrw5mw3Epu1-0RYWg

Closing arguments done, it's in the hands of the jury. 
https://twitter.com/LouRaguse

Plenty of people including some on the jury will disagree but guilt at some level is clear to me.  There was unauthorized use of a weapon that led to a death.  He intentionally shot to kill(?).  It wasn't reasonable to think their life was in danger.  It seems to me that in the moments before they had no idea a person was approaching the car in good lighting, they weren't fully paying attention.  For some reason they missed that or failed to react appropriately to it.  It isn't fair in my mind to respond to being startled by pulling the trigger without identifying a treat.  They should have seen someone approaching and responded to it.  Absent that he should have waited for evidence of danger, not act with deadly force only out of fear.

With almost no facts or evidence to work with, both prosecutors and defense attorneys seem to have done a great job representing their side's interests.  It will be interesting to learn what the jury decides.

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on April 19, 2019, 06:59:58 PM

Love the way you are following up on this Doug.

My pleasure but there doesn't seem to be any evidence or issue to discuss.  The potential real issues are not in the trial.  Did Mpls negligently hire an unstable guy to be cop because they were so eager to get a black and get their first Somalian on the police force?  If so, doesn't matter; they aren't on trial.  Or is it worse, Noor is fully capable but wanted the badge and the gun for bad reasons.  Nothing of that sort is accused in the trial.

Is this the kind of story elsewhere that caused a wrongful shooting in Mpls:
"2 Florida deputies shot dead in suspected ambush"
Colorado officer killed in 'ambush-style attack'
Cops ambushed in Dallas
Cops ambushed in Ohio, and so on.  Google these stories and more.

Defense theory in the Noor trial is that both officers feared they entered an ambush.  Noor's partner also drew his weapon [although neither activated body cam until after the shooting].  They were startled by a sound and that is why he shot an unarmed women in her pajamas who approached the driver window.  Officers may or may not have invented the story of a rap on the police car.  There were no fingerprints of the victims on the vehicle.  Defense attorney suggests it could have been her knuckle or back of the hand.  So what?  Does that mean reasonable person in that situation shoots to kill?  No.  More likely fear than reason.

Noor's partner Harrity testified they saw a silhouette approach the squad car, then heard a slap or thump sound on the car that made them fear danger

Crime scene investigators said you could read a book under that alley street light illumination.  Why did they drive into a place where they felt trapped is one question and with two people sensing danger in good illumination, why did they not keep awareness of everything around them.  I question further, don't you have better 360 degree awareness on foot, but sit in the car and roll down the window is what Minneapolis police often do.

We are waiting for defendant to testify and for the jury to sort it out.  The rightful result comes down to Minnesota definitions of 3rd degree murder and manslaughter.

The officer should not have shot and the woman died because of his mistake.  I can't imagine how the defendant argues he was right to shoot based on what he saw and heard and did not make a mistake.  More believable is that he drew his weapon but did not mean to shoot.

"it will be hard overcoming the defense that Noor’s team has invoked that police can legally shoot if they have a reasonable fear that they’re in danger. Noor’s attorneys have argued that he heard a loud noise and feared an ambush. But prosecutors say there is no evidence of any threat to justify deadly force."
https://www.twincities.com/2019/04/19/mohamed-noor-trial-charges-justine-damond-shooting-minneapolis-cop/
More coverage:
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-14.php

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on March 14, 2019, 10:47:08 PM

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/a-new-study-uncovers-troubling-information-about-immigrant-only-prisons?utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_031319&utm_medium=email&bxid=5be9d3fa3f92a40469e2d85c&user_id=50142053&esrc=&utm_term=TNY_Daily

Instead of investing in better health care and better treatment for illegals, how about we try to keep them out.

New Yorker: An epileptic illegal died in custody without getting needed medicine.  What is learned from a tragic human story?  We should have fully stocked pharmacies at the border?  Did he have medication when he arrived and we took it from him?  He should have immediate high quality healthcare for free awaiting his arrival just for crossing illegally?  That won't lure people in.  What was he in prison for?  Did he communicate his medical need before the seizure?  In what language?  Do we need interpreters awaiting the illegals crossers too?  Would he have died if was in his country?  Would have an American have died in the same situation? 

The more we send free [stuff] to the illegals including healthcare, food, clothing, housing, transportation, all the essentials of life, the more illegals will come.  If a man brings a purchased, trafficked, hostage underage girl with him that he has raped, we welcome them as a family?  What is wrong with this escalating cycle? 

The way to have fewer treatment issues of illegals is to have fewer illegals coming in.

https://primaryandsecondary.com/methods-of-engagement-why-double-taps-and-head-shots-will-let-you-down/?fbclid=IwAR30xSkKxJomrkbfqnIE_wkr1fmSk9MZ2wWeVyceY1XVyS2uPZX2qTiTWwM

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/270969/death-penalty-pope-francis-rewrites-bible-dennis-prager

https://www.dailywire.com/news/29978/breaking-7-students-killed-12-injured-knife-attack-ryan-saavedra

Anyone in New Orleans, 7th Ward  or nominally close?

The Gulf of Mexico and being right across the gulf from Mexico is nice.

Beautiful place here. May call this "home." Great food. Interesting people.