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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Flash Elorde
« on: November 20, 2007, 11:34:52 PM »Quote from: Rafael Kayanan
As per Pacquiao, I thought he was from Mindanao. Did he train in Elorde's gym when he was in the islands?
--Rafael--
Hi Rafael,
Pacquiao is from General Santos, Mindanao, i'm 90% sure of this. but, Yes he is Bisaya. i'm in L.A. (originally from Cebu City) and a great fan of Pacquiao. for the last month and half now i've religiously taken my early lunch breaks at a Thai restaurant below the Wild Card gym in Hollywood, get my lunch to-go and spend my whole lunch hour watching Pacquiao spar and train. and chit chat with Boy, one of Pacquiao's trainers. the guy's an amazing fighter--movement, power, everything, he's got it all.
as for Elorde's gym, not sure, but he did train in Cebu City (not sure if that's where he started, or just continued his training there; but there's a handful of quality boxing stables and trainers in Cebu, who are also connected to the whole Eskrima subculture there, these folks basically move around in the same circles)
Pacquiao was born in General Santos, his roots come from Pinamungajan, west cebu. Gabriel "Flash" Elorde comes from Bogo City, North Cebu the hometown of Sonny Umpad. The Flash started his boxing career while working as a bootblack in Cebu City. His early ring name was "KRS Flash"....KRS stands for Kintanar Radio Station, a certain Kintanar from Cebu City was one of his early managers. He was beaten by "Kid Independence" in his first attempt at the Philippine featherweight crown in Cebu City. Mesyot a.ka. Kid Independence, if he is still alive is around 88 years old...he used to shine shoes for my late dad when he retired from boxing. I saw the Flash beat up Teruo Kosaka in a championship bout at the Cebu Coliseum sometime in the sixties.
I have my strong doubts about FMA influencing modern boxing ...look further into the records and styles of the early innovators like Gene Tunney and Jack Dempsey before jumping into conclusion. I have firsthand info though that the legendary Flash studied Balintawak Eskrima under the tutelage of Anciong Bacon...according to his batchmate Baltazar "Iti" Gumapon that he trained together with former Mandaue City Mayor Pedong Ouano and TUCP (Trade Union Congress of the Philippines) honcho Democrito Mendoza. That is a verifiable fact!