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Martial Arts Topics / Re: European “Gathering of the Pack” 2011
« on: July 14, 2011, 01:03:58 PM »
I'm already in London, yet the days at Bern are still running through my head. I really enjoyed being a spectator in this Gathering; both the comradeship and the intensity of the fights were amazing.

I'd like to thank all the great members of the tribe I met. Guro Crafty and Guro Lonely, thanks for some great training sessions. I'm sure it'll take me a long time to fully absorb everything we saw. Kostas, Colin, Thornsten, Chris and anyone else I may be forgetting, thanks for the friendly conversation and advice. I look forward to seeing you all again next year, hopefully as a fellow fighter in the Gathering!


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Martial Arts Topics / Re: European “Gathering of the Pack” 2011
« on: July 03, 2011, 01:26:26 PM »
Guro Crafty, I have a nagging injury in my right hip which comes and goes. I might try to bribe you to get some of your hip rehab-prehab secrets. Will some italian Chianti wine do the trick?  :-D

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: European “Gathering of the Pack” 2011
« on: July 03, 2011, 11:19:28 AM »
barna284, I´m also looking forward to meet you next week  :-)
And I hope you find a nice place to stay

Thanks man! I just got a room at a nice hotel relatively close to both the train station and the gathering spot. Quite expensive but what the hell, you only live once...

Hoep to see you all in a few days!

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: European “Gathering of the Pack” 2011
« on: July 03, 2011, 10:33:00 AM »
I will be pleased to meet you - if you see me, please come and introduce yourself - I arrive at the last minute, and will probably have my mind on the fights, but after the day is done, I'd be interested in hearing about your  backpacking around Europe - in younger days, I did a lot of traveling, and still have a number of friends who do.

I sure will! It's been quite an interesting trip so far. I still have Venice and Paris before Bern, and London, Madrid and Barcelona afterwards. It's a really mind-blownig experience.

Now, if you excuse me, I have to go try to find somewhere to stay...lest I end up sleeping under a bridge! :-D

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: European “Gathering of the Pack” 2011
« on: July 02, 2011, 10:46:15 AM »
Does anyone know of any other place I can stay in other than Camping Eichholz? Apparently all the rooms are booked  :-(. I'm travelling alone (backpacking through Europe) and intend to attend the gathering as an espectator and attend the three days of training (the looks I've gotten from my sticks hanging out the backpack at train stations are priceless). Any hostels / cheap hotels to recommend?

Thanks in advance!

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This is a very interesting question indeed. Most instructors would tell you that it's really important to focus on the basics rather than trying to obtain new "moves" all the time. For the most part, I agree. As a relative newbie (less than three years training FMA), I know my strikes and footwork could be improved vastly, even though I can usually hit people and don't trip over when sparring. Seeing other people fight and seeing the "holes" in my fighting make me feel that there is still room for improvement.

On the other hand, Guro Crafty's quote is also enlightening. The truth is, training new things is uncomfortable because of the initial clumsiness. I'm quite green on the subject of Siniwali, and even doing freeform "distance sparring" with two sticks is awkward for me. In terms of comfort, it's much less stressful for me to fine-tune my male triangle footwork or my horizontal backhand than to try and get both my hands to move harmoniously.

I think in the end it depends on how one wants to develop one's fighting game. Basics need to be mastered and there is no way around that, but at some point it becomes a question of, shall we say, economics. Namely, what sort of result we get from the time invested. Here sparring is a useful metric.

   


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Martial Arts Topics / Re: European “Gathering of the Pack” 2011
« on: May 31, 2011, 10:37:35 AM »
Is it necessary to register in advance for the Seminar & Training Camp? I will be traveling Europe in June-July and I wanted to attend the Gathering as a spectator and then do the Seminar & Training Camp if possible.

BTW, which equipment need I take? Sticks & MMA gloves good or should I bring headgear & stick gloves? 

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Espanol Discussion / Drills, resistencia y aliveness
« on: February 01, 2011, 04:41:04 PM »
La utilidad de los drills como técnica de enseñanza en las artes marciales se ha discutido bastante, sobre todo alrededor de un concepto mas amplio: el aliveness predicado por Matt Thornton como filosofia de entrenamiento. Aunque los temas estan obviamente relacionados, no se trata de la misma discusion. Inicialmente me gustaria referirme a un hilo de discusion donde este tema se discute en relacion a las FMA

http://stickgrappler.tripod.com/ug/jmsumhub.html

El hilo es extenso y plantea muchos problemas interesantes. Puntualmente, se me ocurren las siguientes preguntas para empezar la discusion:

1) Está la nocion de drill opuesta al aliveness de Thornton? En otras palabras, es un drill por definicion un ejercicio que no contempla el entrenamiento con resistencia progresiva o se pueden practicar ciertos drills con grados crecientes de resistencia?

2) Si un drill implica movimientos o tecnicas cuya aplicación en el sparring es muy diferente, esto quita valor al drill? Porque?

3) Varias escuelas de JKD hablan de los drills como una manera de desarrollar "atributos". Que son estos atributos? Es mas rapido o eficiente desarrollarlos mediante drills que mediante el sparring?

Creo que estas tres preguntas nos dan una base para debatir.




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         Me agrada mucho la idea del temas de los ejercicios formales o Katas que propones, por favor abe un post sobre el tema  para darle seguimiento, gracias.

Estoy algo complicado aca en el trabajo, pero cuando llegue a casa vere de abrir un thread con este tema. Estuve leyendo bastante ultimamente de discusiones viejas (una en particular que involucraba a Burton Richardson, Matt Thornton y algunos comentarios de Guro Marc Denny) y si bien no llegue a ninguna conclusion demasiado novedosa, creo que tengo en la cabeza un esquema bastante claro de los puntos principales en discusion. Veremos si puedo volcarlos en el foro mas tarde.

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Martial Arts Topics / Dealing with the adrenaline dump
« on: January 17, 2011, 04:21:19 AM »
I'd like to know if anyone has any material on dealing with the adrenaline dump. I seem to be extremely sensitive to it, not in sparring situations but rather in "real life" (having to stave off someone harassing me on the street, for example). Is there any was to desensitize myself a bit?

I remember reading in "Meditations on violence" by Rory Miller that the process of getting used to the AD is quite specific to the task & role. From this POV, the solution would be to deal with this sort of situation more often. I'm not sure that'd be too wise, however... :?

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El término Deporte Marcial se emplea para definir aquella actividad formativa y recreativa derivada de un Arte Marcial, que involucra un sistema específico de combate con reglas y formalidades, y su sistema de combate limita sus técnicas al  uso de golpes a zonas específicas evitando ataques a partes vulnerables del cuerpo como son: la traquea, genitales, ojos, columna, etc. por considerarlos golpes “sucios y antideportivos” (pero que en la calle son de gran ayuda).  Así mismo algunos de estos Deportes Marciales o de Contacto, como se suelen llamar actualmente, involucran un código de ética en el que se busca evitar lastimar al contrario en el combate y solo marcan sus golpes realizando escaso contacto con su adversario, tal es el caso del Karate-Do. Por otra parte el deporte normaliza que los encuentros deban realizarse tomando en cuenta aspectos como el sexo, peso y “nivel de habilidad” de los competidores; así como un sistema de reglas que indican que el evento debe llevarse a cabo bajo una superficie determinada, una vestimenta oficial, equipo de protección específico, así como la participación de varios jueces que califican la aplicación técnica de las acciones con base en un reglamento. Con todos estos prerrequisitos para el desarrollo de un combate deportivo cabe preguntarnos... ¿Realmente las experiencias que podemos adquirir de un encuentro como este nos ayudan a resolver los problemas que podríamos encontrarnos en las calles...?

Dog Mauricio, tus puntos son muy validos. Ciertamente un enfrentamiento deportivo no es lo mismo que una situacion de pelea real, que involucra muchos factores (percepcion de 360 grados, armas ocultas, multiples oponentes, etc). Sin embargo, los DDCC son quizas una de las maneras mas eficientes de entrenar tecnicas de AAMM.

Creo que el principal punto que trajo a colación la revolucion de las MMA y conceptos como el de "Aliveness" de Matt Thornton son el prestar mas atencion a los metodos de entrenamiento de las AAMM y como estos afectan la eficacia de un estilo de combate. Mientras que antes se solia juzgar un estilo por que tan "letales" eran sus tecnicas (golpes a puntos vitales, por ejemplo), hoy en dia se toma muy en cuenta como se entrenan esas tecnicas y si se les puede realizar un "pressure testing" (como traducimos esto?). En otras palabras, entrenar con resistencia progresiva.

La objecion de mucha gente a las tecnicas como piquetes de ojos, golpes a los genitales, etc. no es que no sean efectivas (lo son) sino que es muy dificil entrenarlas con resistencia sin causar daños graves a nuestros compañeros de entrenamiento. Esto no quiere decir que no se las deba tener en cuenta, sino que quizas no deben ser nuestra principal herramienta. En ocasiones se pueden ver estilos enteros basados en "trucos" como golpes a puntos criticos, sin darle importancia alguna a cuestiones quizas menos "letales" pero mas fundacionales, como tener un buen jab, una idea de clinch, ciertas nociones de lucha en el piso.

Sospecho que los años venideros nos daran nuevas ideas y posibilidades en lo que hace al entrenamiento de AAMM. Lejos de volver al trillado debate de "Street vs. Sport", sospecho que encontraremos nuevas maneras de aunar los aspectos mas "deportivos" de las artes marciales con aquellas tecnicas cuya practica con resistencia se dificulta, pero que no por ello deben dejarse de lado.

Otro tema interesante es el rol de los "drills", "katas" y demas formas en el entrenamiento, pero quizas es discusion para otro momento. Creo que Guro Marc Denny ha escrito bastante al respecto.

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Espanol Discussion / El espiritu marcial en la vida diaria
« on: January 08, 2011, 06:03:25 AM »
Creo que es bastante evidente que la aparicion de las MMA genero en las artes marciales tradicionales un gran revuelo y, en algunos casos, un proceso de reflexion que llevo a recuperar ciertos aspectos perdidos. Hoy me interesa comentar sobre algunas impresiones que tengo al respecto de estos cambios.

Una de las criticas que he escuchado (y con la cual coincido parcialmente) es que antes de la aparicion de las MMA las escuelas de artes marciales tradicionales habian puesto demasiado enfasis en cuestiones "espirituales" o "humanas". Muchas veces escuche decir que las artes marciales en el mundo moderno eran principalmente una via para enseñar autocontrol, respeto, autoestima, sobre todo en los mas jovenes o adolescentes. En mi opinion esta vision es bastante mutilante ya que termina dejando en un segundo plano el aspecto marcial en si, la pericia en combate. Dentro de los pocos años que tengo practicando artes marciales, creo que la eficiencia de un arte (es decir, si sirve para resolver un conflicto fisico dentro de sus parametros) es una cuestion central. Esta es tambien una justificacion para darle importancia al sparring, dado que es muy dificil evaluar la eficacia de un arte sin hacer algun tipo de "pressure testing" (como traducirian esto al español?).

A pesar de esto, si creo que la practica de las artes marciales afecta otros aspectos de nuestra vida diaria y genera en nosotros cambios que van mas alla de nuestra pericia como combatientes. Me interesaria escuchar en que aspectos sienten que la practica de las artes marciales los ha cambiado "fuera del dojo/escuela".

Personalmente, el lema "To Walk as a Warrior for All Your Days" me ha afectado mucho en cuanto a la moderacion, la necesidad de pensar a largo plazo tanto en los caminos de entrenamiento como en el uso juicioso del cuerpo, en no exigirle tanto que este no pueda responder mas tarde. Tambien la nocion de 360 awareness me hace ir bastante mas atento por todos lados, aunque conviene no ponerse paranoico tampoco  :lol:

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: DBMA Membership
« on: January 04, 2011, 09:34:17 AM »
On a more practical issue, is it possible to sign the DBMAA membership form and FAX it instead of mailing it? I live in Argentina, so snail mail could take a long time...

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: December 19, 2008, 05:11:52 AM »
I´m grateful I had my first light, sort-of spar yesterday in PT class. Wonderful experience. Also, I got my first pair of sticks!

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Martial Arts Topics / Different sticks for training
« on: November 17, 2008, 03:59:05 AM »
I am just starting out with FMA (Pekiti Tirsia), so bear with me if my questions are a bit newbie-ish.

I would like to know if it is common to use different sticks for different parts of training. The other day I saw that my instructor had sticks of different width & weight. I was given a lighter stick to perform the first warmup moves. However, when drilling basic attacks against tires, I used a thicker, heavier stick.

I was practicing a bit this weekend (can´t wait for my seconds class...), using a makeshift wooden stick with weight and width similar top the heavier stick I saw on class the other day. It was quite taxing on the hands and forearms, so I was wondering if perhaps I should use a lighter stick, being a newbie and all.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Starting up with FMA (training options)
« on: November 14, 2008, 08:00:54 AM »
I had my first PT class yesterday and I had a great time. After some basic attack drills, I was instructed in some basic footwork and spent a good part of the class with different triangular displacements. After that I got to try my recently-learned attacks on a tire, which was quite interesting. As I repeated my footwork drills again and again, I got a glimpse of the more advanced students sparring. It looked fascinating. I was also surprised by the weight of the average stick; the idea of DB sparring seems even more extreme now that I´ve heard the kind of impact one of those sticks gives to a tire...

I´m covered with calluses in my hands and feet, but I will definitely be returning next week!

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Starting up with FMA (training options)
« on: November 07, 2008, 03:33:19 AM »
Guro Crafty Dog:

Many thanks for your detailed reply. I´ve checked and the Katipunan academy is not certified with the Inosanto Academy. I believe I will contact Nicolas and see if I can try one of his PT classes next week.

Regarding sparring, I understand that DBMA does not require sparring. However, while I´ve enjoyed all my prior martial arts experiences, I sometimes feel that I would´ve liked to have more sparring experiences. I´m not confident in fighting situations and that´s a side if my personality I´d like to explore. I believe MAs can be a good place for this sort of introspection.

By the way, I was just watching that short speech of yours titled "Rambling ruminations" on YouTube. I found your words most interesting.     

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Martial Arts Topics / Starting up with FMA (training options)
« on: November 07, 2008, 01:40:36 AM »
This is my first post in the forum; I have been lurking up till now  :-D

I´m an engineering student from Argentina and I´ve recently become interested in FMA. I´ve always been interested in MAs; I tried Karate a long time ago, Kempo Karate and Kung-Fu recently. For some lucky reason, I have three options for training here in Buenos Aires. Could you help me decide on one of them?

There is one academy ("Academia Katipunan") which teaches the Lacoste style. They have classes three times a week, which is a bonus since the others have more limited schedules.

Another academy teaches Pekiti Tirsia, bue they only have classes twice a week (with my college schedule, that´ll probably mean one class a week). This class is run by given by Nicolás Wachsmann.

Last but not least, there is a once-per-week class on DBMA on saturdays (10 AM...), also taught by Nicolás Wachsmann (I looked for him on the DBMA website and he appears as a trainer).

Personally, the curriculum of DBMA as explained in the website FAQ by Mr. Denny seems very interesting and varied, so it would be my first choice. Still, considering my schedules, I´m likely to miss a 10 AM saturday class every once in a while. Another option would be to combine Pekiti Tirsia and DBMA since Nicolás Wachsmann gives both classes. I would also like to know if DBMA involves more sparring than "traditional" styles. I´m not sure how "tough" I am in that respect, but I´m looking forward to test myself with a MA which involves regular sparring, unlike some of my prior experiences.

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