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I'm not a fan of the word "mastery" or "master". To me it seems to indicate an area in which one has achieved perfection. I don't really believe in perfection as an obtainable state in any endeavor. I'm not trying to be difficult or suggest this thread is linguistically invalid (it's a very worthwhile question), the word "mastery" just doesn't work for me. As I often tell the high school students to whom I teach writing, "Perfection is boring." I much prefer the word "expert" over the word "master".

There have already been some great points made in this thread. As far as what and what should not be daily practice, I believe in annual phases. My daily training looks different when I am closer to a Gathering than when I am getting ready to go to a multi-day seminar in some of the systems I teach. I do several empty handed forms on a mostly daily basis of the mushin or mediative aspects. My practice looks different after having children, and I imagine it will change again when my kids are a little older.

My main instructor says that you have to adjust your training every five to ten years. I like that. As for what I practice daily, it depends on the season and what events are coming up in my annual training calendar.

Strangely, I feel the opposite. Preferring the word mastery over expert/expertise. Seeking mastery vs expertise. Hope all is well with you Stoops. Woof. KahunaDog.

Note- Dangerous Warrior is releasing a video game for sword and weapon dueling - legionairres, ninja, chinese sword, and some others. Looks really fun and is designed around realism.

I prefer the hands up posture. The finger pointing method he used may get it broken or cut off and has a slower follow up than an open palm.
The open palm is a Universal STOP mofo coupled with a verbal "STOP"
The major draw back is the forearm vessels are exposed(watch for blade palming).


If he continues forward, I think bicep control could be a viable option...but it leaves him open to reach for his belt line.

Instead a preemptive strike and then
1. create space - weapon access, negotiate, 
2. restraining hold - under the influence, relative, known person,
3. destroy - self defense, offense, military setting

A. A backhand chop to the neck at pressure point stomach9 may give you a ko, at the least time.  The follow up move to that would be the Gene Lebel spin him and rear naked choke(I'm sure BooDog is familiar with this). I would opt to chop using my right, which makes the spin counter clockwise. The spin this way gives me immediate control of his right arm, as you are checking it with the left as you chop, then spin him then finish with the rnc using the left as you step back getting him off his feet. You could also do the rnc with him elevated on your hip if you turned clockwise as a door man would to drag an unruly customer out. The left is sinking the choke, while the right is on his right controlling his access by going under his armpit and over his forearm. It would be wise to
pay attention to his left where you are wide open for a knife.

B. Teep with the left and then immediately access with the right(or opposite). Creates space.

C. Teep while simutaneouslly palming his face with the same side.

D. Eye jab off the palms up. Then spin and rnc.

Sheepdog I'd love to see a list of readings or observations on your work.

In the spirit of "strengthening the tribe" this person has an excellent channel on youtube and his recent series on bug out bags has a lot of insightful information.
His other videos are often product reviews calling them like he sees it. Guns, gear, first aid kits, lights, etc. Great videos and reviews giving a lot of info and possibly springboard into more ideas.

urban survival kit2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeNVsc3vvi4

His various review of torches is quite good.
(pocket lights)

woof-
Kahunadog

y MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and NATASHA SINGER
Published: July 23, 2009
Two over-the-counter dietary supplements that anti-doping officials say are popular among high school football players contain steroids, according to court papers filed by federal authorities on Thursday.

That's really sad, potentially prematurely slowing/altering their own natural hormone production, as well as closing growth plates.
Perusing a supplement store last week I over heard a number of kids around 15-16yo talking about a variety of prohormones and who was taking what and etc.

Great thread.
Depending on the seriousness of the issue I may talk or likely explain to the officer I'm pretty shaken up I'd like to talk about it later. In my mind I expect to go to jail and let my lawyer sort it out. I'd also point out witnesses.

you might want to research Todd and Trevor Laly from Arizona Combat Sports. I remember them using the "superman" back in the late 90's early 2k's. some people think they were the innovators that punch, bringing it over to MMA with all their Muay Thai background.

They're originally out of AMC.

You should hook up with the Hawaiian DB clan! (Dogzilla)

I pmd him my phone number on the 15/16th...

woof KahunaDog.

1) Ascending from Candidate Dog Brother to full Dog Brother:
Kaju Dog
Tahiti Dog
Scotty Dog
Boo Dog
Tennesee Dog

Kaju Dog- great contributor to the tribe and the US Navy
Tahiti Dog- nice finesse
Boo Dog- good fighter and grappler

the tribe is growing

Blackwolf-

would a generic prevention to this be and for rehab some of these exercises are of benefit
*band walks
*glute bridges
*walking lunges
*plie lunges(step behind diagonally and down)
*a well rounded abdominal program(or focused ab program depending)
*leg circles(lying on your back independantly rotating each leg- small to big circles)
*single stiff legged deadlift with dumbells or single legged romanian dl
*rope skipping doing various movements- slalom, skip, single legged, backwards, butt kickers, high knees(plyometric, proprioception, agility, numerious benefits)
*Y, T, W shoulder stability(all that stick movement)
*instinct training- no when to skip or go light, no when to turn it on
*planks
*oh squat

as well as complementary stretches for each of those movements

along with foam rolling to break up the adhesions in the lumbar and thoracic cavity, itb, hamstrings and quads.



This article complements Blackwolfs one.
http://posturalrestoration.com/media/pdfs/Pelvic_Stability_Article.pdf

 

Baltic Dog. woof.
how is your family/son?

are you out of retirement this year?

The foam roller has been a large part of my longevity program. I use it atleast 5 times a week to work out adhesions, scar tissue and subluxations.

Bands are another benefical piece of equipment. Band walks are great for knee and hip stability. They also provide great work on the various structures in the shoulders.

A few of my favorite prehab work are
1. planks
2. foam rolling(all over)
3. band walks
4. inlocate dislocates with a broom stick or band for the shoulders
5. rotator cuff work

That bill is rediculous.

It is up there with the banning of pitbulls.


Banning folding knives...so many carry a knife everyday for work and menial chores that drives me ....

I am really disappointed in BJ Penns performance. He was totally outclassed tonight.
In all seriousness I don't think Penn brought in enough world class resources to help him. While GSP had an entire country backing him and wanting to be on his team.
Really disappointed. Especially after he was calling GSP a quitter along with all the other trash talk.

Lyoto Machida impressed me. Though I do not like his upright posture when standing. He made the shiver/elbow work really well  He stayed in the ground situations long enough to take advantage of them and if they weren't going his way escaped. His coming from a traditional martial arts impresses me even more. The ability to integrate tma into the cage. I am looking forward to some young bull integrating filipino martial arts into the cage succesfully.
"Crafty Dog" or Lester "Surf Dog" Griffin may find some talent.

Jones looked very impressive with an unorthodox style that confused the seasoned UFC show star Bonnar. Then impressed me with the numerous takedowns at will...his hedging of the last round by running was a disappointment though. He seems to be a very promising new star especially if he has a solid chin. The single leg hold to spinning elbow was highly impressive and missed the back of Bonnars head by inches. Nice technique that should be considered.

Karo looked old and his skill set looked 2003-4 ish. Fighters are improving at more than their "A" game, so one should work there B and C games bringing them up to a higher level.

I would love to hear any one else's opinions.
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Kaju dog-
from my limited understanding otc supps are still good to go. can you clarify?

I know MC base Hawaii had the supp stores stop selling pro hormones, but from the guys i have seen in the gym, 90% of the guys in there are "on".

Not a bad thing, just as a grown adult know the risks and rewards. make your own choices.

I too have heard a lot about that otc Tren.

19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione is a progestin similar to trenbolone, nandrolone, methyltrienolone and Methyl-Dien which are also progestins.
Claimed by some manufacturers to metabolize into Trenbolone acetate. From my limited nderstanding Trenbolone acetate is the strongest steroid ever made.

Ronin said:

I have never and will never be, a fan of "tippy-tappy" pad work.
Regardless of who does it and how great a fighter they may be.
Fact is Mayweather is a freak, he would probably be just as good a boxer if he did pad work on one leg while wearing garters.

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Why are you against "Tippy-tappy drills" for boxing?
Why do you think Mayweather spends/wastes time on them?
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I can see tip tappy drills being an integral part in a fighters regime. They can be correctly used as a piece of an entire training system. Unfortuantely some people and systems trake thm as a stand alone.

Citizen helps LEO during shooter situation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYam1pczNeM&feature=related

That guy interviewed is a hero imho. He helped save lives by alerting others who initially were in disbelief and shock, then by guiding leo in to the shooter.
Note how the interviewed gentleman believesthe shooter was enjoying himself and was going to continue if not stopped dead by police.

@peregrine

firearms are illegal in HK... so in theory, there are no guns in their society... i dont know how much of the movies is reality where all the bg's go around with automatics.... but revolvers are standard issue

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loads of good movies/fight scenes? where to begin?

Oldboy

i loved the oldboy hallway fight, not so much because of the hammer, but cos of the boxing. although it was brief, it was very cool. and the rest of the movie is good, but not in the martial sense... 2 twist endings... one is predictable, the other caught me off-guard.. wanted to post so oldboy would know he wasn't the only one to watch this great movie... but if you want to watch it for the fight, then just watch the youtube link...if you want a good movie with twist ending... or want a revenge movie, give this a try

Tom Yum Goong/The Protector

although Ong Bak/Thai Warrior was good (i believe Tony Jaa was trained by Col. Amnat Poosiruk in the old Thai bareknuckle arts as well as Krabi Krabong), and the no-cut/one-take restaurant fight scene (i'm thinking it may be homage to Bruce Lee's Game of Death although i could be wrong -- if kill bill came out before the protector, maybe it was homage to quentin tarantino and kill bill?) was awesome.... i absolutely loved the tony jaa vs 50 guys and he breaks their arms and legs! if you look carefully, the 'form'/kata tony jaa does in the beginning of the movie, contain all the arm and leg breaks he does in this penultimate fight of the movie

Fist of Legend

my fave scene was the fight between jet and the japanese sensei... both learned from each other after having the techniques used against them in that fight and within the same fight they used the techniques that was used against them.

Throwdown (dir. Johnnie To's homage to Akira Kurosawa)

this was more a movie about redemption than it was about judo, although judo was the vehicle for the protagonist to get redemption... although not really martial arts action, check out Johnnie To's The Mission (unrelated to hollywood movie of the same name with Robert DeNiro and music by the great Ennio Morricone)... there is one scene in the mall... that was all Kurosawa... the "motion in stillness".... anyway, what is the name of the technique that tony leung ka fai does? step over shoulder lock? sweet... and Johnnie To has mentioned it in an interview that Throwdown was indeed homage to Kurosawa... especially Kurosawa's The Judo Saga, which were among Kurosawa's first movies

Donnie Yen

he was also in the forgettable Highlander 4

in his SPL (sha po lang), he imo, reinvigorated the fight scenes in HK movies. his collapsible baton vs dagger/knife of wu jing was an awesome fight... and donnie using judo/bjj/mma techniques in his fight scenes makes for something new and exciting to hong kong fight movie fans

Flashpoint was beyond awesome!

Lucy Liu

around the time of her movie with antonio banderas -- ballistic - ecks vs sever... in an interview she has said she studies kali.

Brandon Lee in Showdown in Little Tokyo... especially his fight in the factory, he rips a guard rail off and uses it as a single stick vs the bad guy's staff... Rapid Fire showed his potential to be an action star... was Jeff Imada (who i believe was close friends with Brandon) the choreographer? of course the fight vs Prof Al Leung featuring the trapping was unforgettable

going oldschool on you all lol:

heroes of the east aka shaolin vs ninja

gordon liu (aka master killer aka pak mei, priest in kill bill, aka johnny (leader of crazy 88's) in kill bill, marries a japanese bride, she practices JMA and he makes a comment to her about it and she sends a letter home and her sensei and brothers mistook it and sends their JMA experts to challenge gordon.

five venoms gang in northern shaolin vs southern shaolin aka invincible shaolin aka unbeatable dragon -- lo mang, the muscle-guy of the group, does southern praying mantis.... the scene where he does the fingertip handstand pushups with eggs under his hands always cracks (no pun intended) me up... his facial expression when he says 'eggs again?' gets me everytime... the slender venom that was slightly effeminate in this movie, played the son of the souther shaolin teacher, and was sent to learn yung chun aka wing chun

love the staff -- 2 movies come to mind:

gordon liu in invincible pole fighter aka 8 diagram pole fighter -- great staff training scenes

ti lung in kung fu instructor -- the plot is a ripoff/homage to akira kurosawa's yojimbo... if you haven't seen yojimbo, you may know the plot as sergio leone/clint eastwood's a fistful of dollars or david carradine's the warrior and the sorceress or bruce willis in walter hill's last man standing -- great staff training scenes

will post some more when i think of them....loong day at work, needed to post to unwind lol

We seem to enjoy the same films.
I am aware firearms are illegal in HK.
Oldboy reminded me of what one motivated man can do with channeled aggression against overwhelming odds who are not like motivated. Pissed off and Payback.
The ending disturbed me. 

Hey Mark good to see you around.
Hope your business is doing well and I see you've been training hard.

all the best to you, Maija and Eddy from the Hawaii gang.

What is worth fighting for?  What are our ROE? (Rules Of Engagement)

Thought provoking question.

Moral
Legal
Are they the same?

Each persons world view offers them their own perspective on what augments an altercation to going physical.
In the simplest terms a physical attack on myself or of an immediate family member in my presence deserves a response. Whether it be flight, fight or a combination.

What levels of force?
Only that which is deemed necessary to stop the immediate threat, that is escalated appropriately. See levels of force.

What constitutes a preemptive strike?
Risk to Reward. Once the situation is deemed unavoidable and deescalation is not possible by negotiation or avoidance. Likelihood increases with size disparity, or number disparity.


The news article illustrates a few noteworthy points.
The particular one that comes to my mind was, there was an altercation. One party left and the other stayed.
For myself if there is an altercation, I make it a point to leave the area immediately before someone goes to their vehicle to get a weapon, bad guy rethinks what occurred and cannot accept losing face, or bad guy comes back with back up.
I've had friends who refused to leave as they were not the one's 'at fault'...I say bull pucky and leave making sure people in charge know I have left to avoid further problems.

I had a chance to watch the Nat. Geo. special last night. It was the first time I have seen it since after actually fighting in the Gathering, so I made sure to actually pay attention to the anthropologists and psycologists. I was amazed at their reasons for us fighting! I told my wife that I didn't think there was a single guy out there that was fighting to prove their "manhood". My wife asked me why did I fight. My answer was a) to test my skills in a real fight B) to be able to better defend her and our family. I know that I am a litltle late on posting this (like a year) but the shrinks have us pegged completly wrong. Just my two cents. 

How does a man prove his manhood and superiority?
Traditionally:
Physical dominance- war, fist fights, combat sports
Social dominance- more friends, friends of higher caliber, lots of attractive female friends, etc
Financial dominance- more money, bigger car, bigger house, etc
Intelllectual dominance- higher learning, degrees, etc

I don't see anything wrong with an individual aspiring or training for those reasons stated. I find great worth in an individual who would like to better themselves instead of settling. What I find ever more worthy and rare are individuals who do it with integrity.

A primary reason i train and have been at a few stick-fights are for the higher learning that comes with the ability to exude my will through skill over another trained adversary.

Not exactly defense, but certainly heroic:

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/16479379/detail.html

FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. -- Adults didn't see a drowning 5-year-old, but his 6-year-old friend did.Haden Stusak, 6, of Fayetteville is being called a hero after he dived into a pool to investigate a shadow on the bottom that turned out to be his friend.Josiah Buddah, 5, and Haden are buddies. Haden is a good swimmer, but Josiah can't swim without his water wings.On Sunday, Josiah took off his water wings and sank to the bottom of the deep end."I was scared, I was scared," said Josiah.An adult spotted a shadow in the pool, but couldn't get to it. No one knew the shadow was Josiah. But Haden got curious and dove down to investigate. He had been practicing diving to the bottom. When he discovered Josiah, he grabbed him and pulled him to the surface.VIDEO: 6-Year-Old Saves 5-Year-Old Friend From Drowning
"Well, I grabbed him like that; he was like unconscious. I grabbed him and I was swimming like this," said Haden."He jumped inside the water; he helped me get back up," said Josiah.Two nurses and doctor started CPR."They took me to the hospital," said Josiah. "I was dead and couldn't breathe."It all happened in seconds."I could have been burying my baby this week, so just to know that he's here, No. 1, is amazing, because to see your child lifeless for a few minutes, you think it's over," said Josiah's mother, Judith Buddha."So I called 'Help, help, he drowned,'" said Haden.Haden's parents told Channel 2 they ask him not to talk so loudly and to keep his voice down. This is one time they're glad they heard his screams.Josiah is doing well and is now swimming with a float suit. He will start lessons in a couple of weeks.And in true hero fashion, Haden says what he did was no big deal."We're friends. That's what friends do," said Haden.

Thank goodness that kid is alive.
I want to point out, where were the parents or adult supervision the whole time?
You don't let 5 and 6yo run loose at a pool all by themselves. Especially if they need "water wings".
If the child died, i would blame the parents for negligence. Having been a lifeguard for a few years when i was younger i recall numerous parents attempting to drop their young children off unsupervised and expect the lifeguards to baby sit their children. Even a few seconds of distraction with young children can be fatal.
I do not like water wings as they can easily slip off if the child puts his hands over his head, as well as they give parents false confidence. A vest is much better.

Every child should learn to swim proficiently. Start them early.