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Hi SB_Mig!

Yesterday I had an experience, wich automatically made me think of this:

1) As per Blain - verbally abusive. One of the best diffusers for drunks is a quiet, calm demeanor. I have yet to see an drunk respond to yelling with a smile.

2) Physically intimidating (getting in the face of) - The puffed chest, chin forward stance is just asking for a cold cocking, not to mention escalating.

3) Again as per Blain - Turning his back. This guy is lucky he didn't get hit earlier when he turns to look at the leaving couple (0:03). He then turns completely around (0:15) before blowing it again and engaging with a completely uninvolved patron (0:23).

4) Again per B. - Hands busy, attention elsewhere. Um, pull your hand out of your pocket and put out the cigarette, Einstein.

5) Distance - The doorguy is standing waaaaaaaaay too close for comfort.
Once he had the drunk walking backwards he should have stopped. That would give him a *cough* reason to "create space" when the drunk advanced again.

6) I would add complete disregard to the drunk's clothing and hands. It looks rainy out, but both the patrons departing and the one who walks up are in short sleeves. Why the bulky jacket, fella? The drunk has his hand on his blade at 0:11 in plain view of both. The knife may not be visible, but why is the drunk guy I'm trying to get rid of reaching into his pants?

The doorman I had to deal with (or rather refused to deal with after a minute or two) last night did all of the mistakes above except for 2) and I felt deeply tempted to tell him about it. 

Thank you once more for that lesson!

Blain

Two interesting little Films:

http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=8869960776561508689&q=300

http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=7171100432146678666&q=300

@ SB_Mig

Interesting.
I've learned a few things and even though I never worked as a doorman, nor have the intention of ever doing so, they might come in handy some day.

I'm also a bit angry at myself, that I failed to notice and mention the chestpuffing, the distance and the clothing, things I used to tell people about myself. Thanks for the reminder.

Blain

Hi Rafael!

>Btw, the Clements article that was linked was discussed to death on this very forum, and its inherent weaknesses and misinterpretations of Filipino/Spanish history were exposed. <

Yes? Sorry, I didn't know that. Do you recall what the threat was called? I would like to check it out.

Blain

Hi everybody

First I will answer SB Mig's questions, which are directed at me:

>Do you find yourself in the midst of a lot of gang rumbles?<

Not a lot and not anymore. But I've seen it.

>Are you still in high school and threatened by schoolyard bullies?<

Not anymore.

>Are you a soccer hooligan and need to learn better skills in order fight with other clubs or the police?<

Never have been, never will be.

And most important:
>"Which of these situations do you see as important re:self defense or self protection?"<

Of mine: all of them, stressing the keyword AWARENESS.

Most of the fights I posted show the ugly, brutal, unexpected side of street fights and it doesn't matter if you're involved or just a bistander who might get into trouble getting drawn into something by just being in the wrong place at the wrong time (hooligan-fights for example).
Even if you live in a safe area (like I do now) doesn't mean that it's impossible that some complete idiot (or just a drunk who usualy is a nice person when sober) might (seemingly) show up out of nowhere and claim you gave him the wrong look (skater bully and "will ya move it!").
I also have found out that sometimes it is not always a good idea to finish an argument by just turning your back (the kick in the back).
I still consider shooting somebody in the back when you could have tackled to stop him a bad action, even when the shooters are policemen and the shot a criminal. (But that it's a police-action is besides the point im aiming for.)
Have you ever been in a situation where you got attacked by multiple opponents and wondered what you could have done to prevent that in the first place or to get out of it unharmed (high school punchfests and gang jump-in)?

I too think the film with the karate-man to be the only positive, as it shows a perfect example of being aware.

I've experienced or seen any of the posted situations (exept for the shooting and the redneck-fight) and more myself.

All of the films (including the ones I didn't post) show a bit of the animal side of men, the "darkness", the "demon" or whatever you call it.

If you enjoy watching such films: think about yourself. (For example: Is something wrong with me?)
If you don't enjoy watching such films: also think about yourself. (For example: Does the reason I don't enjoy them lie in the fact that I can't bear the ugly reality when It's out of my own little, limited and subjectiv perception?)

In short what I'm trying to say is:
Stay aware, prepare yourself, don't give yourself to illusions or dellusions.
There's always the unexpected.

Nuff said.

Blain

P.S.: I don't know any of these "Felony Fights/Bum Fights/Ghetto Fights"-websites and definitely don't want to promote them.
P.P.S.: I also don't know if the films I posted were set up. I wasn't there when they were filmed. But that is beside the point I'm aiming for anyway.

Ugly...

http://media.putfile.com/Real-Street-Fights---Fighting-Mad-8

Hi

Some Knife attacks

http://www.personalprotectionsystems.ca/vids/knifekilling.wmv

http://www.personalprotectionsystems.ca/vids/trolleyattack.wmv

and the result of one

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4816932212156807854&q=fight

Hi

I don't know, but perhaps these links might be of help:

http://ejmas.com/jalt/jaltart_Coetzee_0902.htm

http://ejmas.com/jalt/2004jalt/jcsart_green_1104.html

Greetings,
Blain

Hi everybody

I recently found this curious little film on the net and wondered if it or its makers are already known here.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8884586003342147853&q=unarmed+knife+defense

Blain