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Hey, count me in.  Luck has it that I can make this one.  Any chance we can do some rolling or padded stick/light rattan sparring afterwards ?


Re-run alert for 2013 TV show about weapons fighting club.  Full contact weapons fighting with slow motion coverage.  See chain, chair and stick fights, even keyboard fights.

Hidden in America: Underground Fight Clubs Saturday, June 05 at 12pm (Pacific time)

Destination America channel (771 for HD on Comcast for Sunnyvale, CA)

It's on iTunes . See the super slo-motion chain fight. The hardest action was not included, probably to maintain a G violence rating for TV.

Hidden in America, Season 1 (2013)(Phantom high frame-rate camera)
"4. Underground Fight Clubs"

Update on Pacific show times :  7 pm, 10 pm and 1 am

The MythBusters crew filmed this one in August 2012 and included the Phantom high frame-rate camera for crisp super-slow motion.  This show includes a group of San Francisco Bay Area fighters wielding sticks, chairs, keyboards and chains.  Have a laugh at some aging office workers fighting.

"Hidden in America: Underground Fight Clubs" Premieres Saturday, March 9 at 10 PM E/P

Destination America channel (771 on Comcast for Sunnyvale, CA)

Full contact weapons fighting (sticks, chairs, chains, keyboard, etc.) with Gentlemen's Fighting Club (San Francisco Bay Area) and Manup Standup Tournament (MUSU, New York City)

Hidden in America: Underground Fight Clubs Premieres Saturday, March 9 at 10 PM E/P From backyard brawls in Silicon Valley to kung fu battles in the backstreets of the Bronx, HIDDEN IN AMERICA investigates the codes and core values of America's underground fight clubs. What drives men to battle their fellow men in unrestricted hand-to-hand combat? Why are some fighting styles outlawed, forcing their proponents to operate in clandestine locations? And with the rise of no-rules Mixed Martial Arts, is America becoming addicted to violence? Experts explore the reasons and hidden desires behind fight club members' primal urges to do battle, and the heavy physical and emotional toll these often unsanctioned clashes can have.

Channel finder for "Destination America" channel :

Channels (for Sunnyvale, CA):
Comcast : 771
ATT Uverse : HD 1465
DirecTV : HD 286
DISH : HD 194

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Grip strength; hand conditioning
« on: November 24, 2012, 03:38:02 PM »
There are many methods to "game" the gear ranging from taping the stick to stickie soccer goalie gloves.  I think it's fair to make up for the loss of grip due to the use of gloves which in turn are added to reduce hand damage from striking the abrasive screens of fencing masks.    I'm not into gaming the gear to gain some sort of tech advantage, though I did add some heavier straps to my fencing masks to avoid the constant adjustment that plagues stock fencing masks.  A side effect of that is that fencing mask does not wiggle as much on impact and offers less impact absorption than a stock mask.

As you hint, it's better to increase grip strength, but a lot of the grip problems are due to grip timing rather than inadequate grip strength.  I've met a lot of men with impressive grip strength that lose their sticks on light impact.  

I'm pretty sure you want to increase impulse grip strength, but I'm waiting to be corrected by some of the lifelong stick swingers.  For my office worker hands, the best increase in *my* functional stick grip strength is an increase thumb pinch grip strength.  This inadequacy in my hands may have more to do with loss of hand strength from nerve clamping due to repetitive typing motions and office posture than anything else.  Weight-lifting helps develop the other four fingers unless you find the large diameter barbells that help to include include the thumb.  

Impulse strength is increased by striking something hard.  Hold grip strength is developed with hand grippers (Captains of Crush).   A variety of grippers help, but surprisingly, I find that clicking rhythms with the lighter gauge grippers helped more for sticks than the slow crushing  motions with the heavier gauge grippers.  There was a time I swung pipes, but that led to inflamed wrist and tendons.  So, I stick to swinging aluminum training swords and iron wood (kammagong) sticks.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: BANDALAN ESKRIMA?
« on: October 21, 2012, 06:30:32 PM »
I don't know much about Bandalan Eskrima, but I can comment that he and my teacher Master Richard Lewis trained and received their Master Certification in Kenpo from the Ken Ju Bo Ai association headed by Master Sam Brown.  Rich Lewis has his own organization known as Go Shin Jutsu Kenpo yet the material is the original system passed down by Sam Brown.  You may have noticed them both on the the Kajukenbo tree in a branch from CHA3.

Antonio Lucero would be able to tell you more about the lineage of Bandalan Eskrima.  He fought single stick in my open garage weapons fighting night at least two times, as I recall from distant memory.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Suitable Knives for DB Gathering Fights
« on: July 12, 2012, 11:49:09 AM »
Ghastly pic, Kostas.  Would you be able to provide the model of the trainer that caused this injury?   Also, what are the circumstances that led to this face injury?

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Suitable Knives for DB Gathering Fights
« on: May 24, 2012, 11:33:47 PM »
Woof Crafty,

After sampling Mr. Burgee's wares,  I settled on these for knife sparring :

Fighter for the long blade:

Chisel Tip for the short blade:

I'll post pix of the rounded versions of the Chisel Tip this weekend, though that involves finding my unmodified Chisel Tip ... somewhere ...

For slow knife training, I prefer the Gator Back for its medium blade length and funky look:

and a Spyderco Endura replica made by a skilled training blade maker and Eskrima stylist in Florida

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Suitable Knives for DB Gathering Fights
« on: May 24, 2012, 08:17:37 PM »
Here's a close-up of Bob Burgee's "Fighter" model with the clear car door edge :

And some zoomed-out pix:

NOTE :  that was the last Gathering (June 2005) in which I wore an elbow or knee pad.  Many told me that I would get my knee cracked and be crippled like the guy in the 1st Dog Brother Gathering video, so I put a pad on the right-lead elbow and knee.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Suitable Knives for DB Gathering Fights
« on: May 24, 2012, 11:28:12 AM »
[I think the idea of an extra-blunt modfiied tip might make sense even despite the aesthetic problem, if it makes it significantly harder to puncture someone.  Do you have any good pictures of those?

Mongolian Dog, I gathered up the blades but I haven't found the unmodified Edges2 short blade.  I hope to post pix during the long weekend.  Since I've seen a number of burred blades at Gatherings and martial arts training seminars, I wouldn't be surprised if your gash was from a blade with a burr on the tip.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Suitable Knives for DB Gathering Fights
« on: May 24, 2012, 11:11:14 AM »
Crafty wrote "I noticed that Bitch had some plastic around the edge of her aluminum kukri; I heard someone say it is of the sort that is put on the edge of a car door so that it does not ding the paint of a neighboring car should it bump into it upon opening.  This seems a promising idea."

This is the same car door protector I used for my other blades, and I've used them for over a decade with roughly 20 knife rounds / month.  They're available at Kragan/O-Reilly auto shops, and I prefer the clear color.  They are just wide enough to fit around the beveled edge of most of Burgee's blades, but not all.  The 4 corners and the protrusion around the bend of the blades's tip of these plastic guards must also be beveled and sanded, but removing too much material weakens the guard where it's most needed.  I used those in a long thin box as they allowed for a single piece to cover the entire blade.

The disadvantage of the car door protector is the additional weight and the appearance of a "plastic" blade, but I compensated by using mirror-polished aluminum (after more than ten years, they don't have a mirror shine but still look better and scarier).  I just gave away the industrial belt grinder,  but I'm happy to describe the process.  Bob Burgee stopped mirror-polishing his blades long ago, I recall.

The car door protectors increase the area of the blade's tip, but primarily, they prevent burrs on the tip of the blade.   This was a bigger problem for my crew as we fought on a concrete surfaces, and dropped knives during the rounds, then picked them up during the fight.  A burr on the tip punctured and ripped skin , even through t-shirts.   Burrs created during the round from striking another blade, the  mask or falling on the concrete are not removed and are  a problem.  The additional weight increases the risk breaking fingers, which was a problem for us as we fought all knife fights with thin gloves, work or gardening.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Suitable Knives for DB Gathering Fights
« on: May 23, 2012, 04:14:11 PM »
Quite a treatise, Mongolian Dog.

I've noticed that the most damage comes from the shorter training blades, but that's not to say the longer blades also cause their share.  In my own sparring club, we noticed major damage early on from some of the short Edges2 and a Spyderco replica from another designer.  These blades are great for training technique and were never advertised as sparring blades. Bob Burgee made me a pair of blades with custom tip for one of his shorter blades with a nearly-perfect half hemisphere and polished to a mirror shine.   A pair of these shorter blades were seen in my (a pitiful good-morning wake-up on my part) match with Tony Ober at the Sept 2011 Gathering.  I have some longer blades (Fighter model) with a similar half-hemisphere tip.  Bob was hesitant to make them as not only were they not beautiful in any way, but also they just didn't feel right.  

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Suitable Knives for DB Gathering Fights
« on: May 23, 2012, 01:55:43 PM »
At past Gatherings, I brought two aluminum blades:  one for myself, one for my opponent.  The primary reason was that i didn't want to be stuck or cut with one of those diamond-shaped kung Fu blades with the nastiest burrs, even on the tip.  The secondary reason is that I didn't want my opponent to use a plastic blade.  Since this event is largely propagated with pictures (video clips are great, but they seem to have inadequate circulation until very recently), I don't think it's a good idea to showcase the world's premiere weapons fighting event with plastic implements of destruction.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: The Dog Brothers Tribe
« on: May 22, 2012, 05:46:27 PM »
Yes, congrats !

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Suitable Knives for DB Gathering Fights
« on: May 22, 2012, 05:45:29 PM »
Wow, that was a gusher !

The usual aluminum trainers cut from 1/4" aluminum sheets quickly pick up burrs from striking the fencing mask or from a point drop on concrete.  I'd recommend checking each knife for burrs and sanding accordingly.  Bob Burgee recommended clear car door edge protectors for covering the edges of the blade, and I've used the for years in various knife sparring.  A polish beyond the brushed aluminum does a good job of increasing the fear factor.  

While the video footage will be referenced for decades to come, it's an example of playing on the edge.  A lower risk/lower fun choice would be to provide fighters with a choice of a set of long or short aluminium training blades with appropriate tips and edges.

Also, due to circumstances and situations, the format seems to drift towards a preference of WEKAF type rules. No thrusting, no leg strikes, no clinching of any kind, because we know darn well that that stuff doesn't work in the real world. And yes, lots and lots of padding. Add to that the pencils-on-steroids rattan and the situation is almost laughable.

Prof Gelinas, agreed, totally.  It is difficult to find insurance for any events with a real risk of injury as well as players to rough it up.    The WEKAF rules do restrict the fights to be stick only rather than a mix of fighting.  The WEKAF fights offer a lot of bruising due to the quantity of hits as well as a greater chance to damage hearing from the ring of the helmets and density of hits.

Weapons Fighting show announcement for April 17:

"Onkel Amerika" a Norwegian reality TV series with an episode of the two Grammy-winning musician hosts Fingern and Dansken fighting some Americans known as the Gentlemen's Fighting Club. Other series topics include :
- Skin hanging
- Shark fishing
- Norse mythology
- Gold mining
- Steer wrestling
- Played a concert
- Stunt school
- Underground exploring in NYC
- Ghost hunters - investigation a haunted place in Seattle
- Bigfoot researchers
- Magic show

On-line viewing is region-limited. Sorry.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DB on PPV TV
« on: March 24, 2012, 02:13:31 AM »
Woof Crafty,

DVDs are not HD.  Blurays are HD.  Are you selling a Bluray?  Is the company expecting something better than DVD-quality?  If you have any emails with such technical details, please forward them to me if you are not satisfied with the answers from your production company.  I'll help out.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DB on PPV TV
« on: March 23, 2012, 03:49:13 PM »
Let me know when it's available for sale.  I'm a rabid customer.

Crafty Dog wrote "Dog Brothers Tribal Gathering of the Pack (tribal members only):"

What is a tribal member?  Thanks.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Nat Geo show : Fight Club No Limits
« on: January 23, 2012, 12:08:43 PM »
Dr. Michael Addis adds a touch of welcome controversy.  A show of smiley people exchanging buddy remarks brings out the yawn in all of us. 

I'd like to see some people picketing outside of a Gathering.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: VIDEO CLIPS OF INTEREST
« on: January 23, 2012, 12:04:07 PM »
Great photos of the European Gathering are to be found here.  I've not seen these before.

Have I missed any threads commenting on the on the pic in the top, center position with the raging fellow twirling the purple cape?

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DB on PPV TV
« on: January 23, 2012, 11:59:23 AM »
Crafty, would you be willing to sell a higher resolution file split to several data DVDs or one data BluRay for a higher price?  DVDs and their lower data rates are showing their age, and I'd prefer to have something that will look better on my larger TV.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA: How to fight the taller fighter?
« on: January 05, 2012, 04:15:03 PM »
C-Mighty Dog,

How about requesting fights with weapon lengths that equalize reach differences?  For example, have the taller fellow use a 5" short trainer blade while you have a 7-8+" blade.   I've tried this against shorter fighters in my venue, and it's quite the lesson.  Taller, larger fighters tend to use even larger sticks, so the smaller guys are at an even greater disadvantage in closing the distance to the body.  So, reverse that by supplying them with 18-25" sticks for which the length is inversely proportional to the height of your opponent.  This is a complete opposite approach from, say, the Eskrima Serrada of Angel Cabales, which specified a weapon length relative to the body (in his style, ribs to palm of hand when arm is extended from body, though the stick length shortened in later years.  I'm pretty sure I saw that clan using 18" sticks as early as 1991, though some of his senior students continued to use that body rule for a 22-26" stick)

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DB on PPV TV
« on: January 05, 2012, 04:05:06 PM »
Looking forward to this.  The Comcast PPV quality for SD broadcasts is abysmal, so I'm looking to watch this is full glory on DVD.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Nat Geo show : Fight Club No Limits
« on: December 21, 2011, 01:08:57 PM »
Repeat : documentary on Dog Brother Gathering

Tuesday Dec 27, 2011
National Geographic Channel
11-12noon Pacific Time COMCAST : 757 NGCHD (high definition)
 2-3pm       Pacific Time COMCAST : 273 NGEO   (standard definition)

"Fight Club : No Limits" AKA "Anything Goes"
A competitive fighting subculture is explored in this look at the Dog Brothers, a group of martial artists known for their use of brutal unconventional tools (2008). documentary (V =Intense Violence)

Martial Arts Topics / Re: CNN Piece - Dog Brothers: Martial Arts to the max
« on: December 06, 2011, 11:50:12 AM »
Great piece and well-deserved exposure for the Gathering.  The video quality was also very good - much better than for typical web video.

Thanks, Pappy.  Keep safe in Afghanistan.  Who is the Master at Arms now?

Bump for tonight's broadcast

Martial Arts Topics / Re: The Older Warrior
« on: July 20, 2011, 11:27:18 AM »
While I don't doubt that exercise (circulation therapy) extends bodily function, it is important to avoid over-looking a selection process :  those that are able continue to exercise.  In any hard contact martial arts class, I notice a high drop out rate.  Does the class toughen the student or does the class select for tough students?

Martial Arts Topics / ESPN show : backyard fist and weapons fighting
« on: July 19, 2011, 09:14:55 PM »
ESPN E60  (seen as E:60)
A collection of segments dealing with contact sports
9:30 pm (Pacific Time)
Friday July 22
725 es2hd for Comcast

Look for the HD channel.  This is a show is a new compilation of underground and amateur fighting, including a Florida backyard bare knuckle ring, a weapons fighting group from the San Francisco Bay Area and others

(yes, this is a rerun of the segment ESPN did on my fighting group in 2008)

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DB on PPV TV
« on: June 27, 2011, 12:38:35 PM »
Is anyone watching this show?  It's a unique fighting show that's full of suspense.

The quality of the ATT Uverse broadcast is much better than Comcast.  Comcast has crappy PayPerView quality, at least for UFC and Crual Combat.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DB on PPV TV
« on: June 23, 2011, 07:46:48 PM »
Bump for last showing of full length stick fights on June 24
Set your DVR.

Stick Fights Dog Bros': Cruel Combat
Date - Friday, June 24, 2011
Time - 10pm ET/7pm PT
MPAA Rating - TV-14
Genre - Mixed Martial Arts
Dog Brothers Martial Arts (DBMA) presents its legendary Stick Fighting Battles for the 1st time ever on Pay Per View!

Woof Marc,  The video link appears to be on the DBMA Facebook age with the title "Dog Brothers 2011 Tribal Gathering Highlights" and a number of member comments.  However, when the otherwise normal-looking Play button in the middle of the video is pressed, the message "This video is private" appears in white text on the black background.  This is a bit of a tease with no explanation.  I'll post your comment "I gather that the clip has gone up and been taken down.  The reason is that Night Owl inadvertently left someone out and took it down while he is correcting this."

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DB on PPV TV
« on: June 16, 2011, 02:55:04 PM »
Bumping the thread.  This show is on different dates on different services.  Record while you can. 

Crafty Dog, any word if this PPV show will be available on DVD, perhaps from the DBMA store?

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DB on PPV TV
« on: June 14, 2011, 05:40:52 PM »
My friend tells me it's on ATT Uverse as well, but I don't have channel info, yet.

Stick Fights Dog Bros': Cruel Combat
Date - Friday, June 24, 2011
Time - 10pm ET/7pm PT

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DB on PPV TV
« on: June 14, 2011, 02:31:20 PM »
Set your DVRs !

Stick Fights: Dog Bros' Cruel Combat
June 15, 16, 21, 22
DirectTV PPV Channel 120

Dog Brothers Martial Arts (DBMA) presents its legendary Stick Fighting Battles for the 1st time ever on Pay Per View! Using its unique, “system of many styles”, DBMA combines Filipino & Indonesian Martial Arts and Dog Brother’s Grappling & Stick-Grappling, with some of the more traditional martial arts including Jiu-Jitsu, Judo, and Akido. Watch these Extraordinary & Explosive “never before broadcast” bouts that take MMA to the highest level of Combat!

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Ranges observed in the fights
« on: May 23, 2011, 02:29:52 PM »
Crafty has the word on the topic, particularly with that treatise.

I'll add that in most martial arts, the fighting does not resemble the training, most of the training offers little preparation for fighting, and most of the fighting looks the same.  Most techniques are trained at quarter speed/power on cooperative opponents for practical reasons and usually fail due to the latency in the response of our nervous systems, both in detection/reaction as well as execution.  It is assumed that these techniques can be simply sped up when the need arrives, but that is as false as assuming a 100 mph fast pitch will be accomplished by regular pitch at 25 mph.

I have sparred with eskrima groups that train and spar with disarms.  While disarms are important and useful, I believe that the no clinch and strike rules of the sparring allow for the disarms to occur more often.  The typically thinner and shorter WEKAF weapon (something like 24", skinned 1/2" rattan) coupled with head, body, hand protection encourage players to stay in the "fun" range.

At DB Gatherings (sigh, a distant memory) and in my own weapons fighting group, I made a special attempt to use many of the seemingly exotic Kenpo techniques.  Most seem to work better on fatigued opponents, which isn't a surprise given that they are trained at 1/4 speed/power and require more effort to recall.  Only a small repertoire of motions can be mastered and remembered.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Train like a man!!!
« on: March 28, 2011, 07:10:14 PM »
Rooney wrote "Stretch out, then warm-up, and then pick up something heavy!"

I like the criticism of nouveau exercises, but some of what is developed today is founded on the same results as the Big 3 heavy lifting exercises.   It is true that large squat racks in gyms are used for just about anything other than squats.

Still, the reason static stretching is out is because it is a waste of time, aside from producing a short-lived feeling of euphoria coupled with a temporary reduction in strength.  Stretching need not be done at all provided your regimen includes some activity using a range of motion.

As for one-legged and split squats, I disagree.  The muscle tension in stabilizers is higher, because, well, they're doing more work in a one-legged position than in a two legged position.  The split and single-legged squats work the feet in ways that a standard squat can't.  The feet are needed for athletics, and unless your entire athletic ambitions center on lifting the most amount of weight in the gym, a specialty, there is no reason to ignore the feet.

Last week my boxing coach tied me and my classmate together preventing us from working the outer range, I found the inner ranges just as nerve racking.  Tying to establish the hug or the clinch required more energy and I took repeated hooks to the body. ugh.
In the stickfighting context, I'm just as worried about being able to pick up punyos in the close range. ouch.

I agree and have a lot of fun in this range.  However, most of the fighters I have watched in the Gathering spend more time pushing each other in this range or closing to a complete hug.  If you know how to deliver blows in the clinch, most of your opponents will be surprised.

  why are not more folks severely maimed or flat-out killed given the extremely light gear that you guys wear?

After watching the Gathering clips in the DBMA Gathering Footage video tape, I also wondered why every (eventually) got up and no one died.  The first test of taking a hit to a fencing helmet still had me wondering.  After a reasonable number of stick fights, both in practice and at the Gathering, I'll take a shot at explaining the mystery.

The number of concussion-worthy swings are relatively low coupled with the few opportunities to land one.  There are also more targets than the head, and your opponent's stick and arms get in the way too often.   The head is a fairly small target to strike at a distance, and the most common #1 angle also intersects an opponent's weapon-less but typically raised arm.  Most of the time in a stick fight is in the range at which the sticks do not intersect at all.  Some time is spent in the range in which the sticks but not the hands intersect.  Less time is spent in the range (largo mano) in which a stick may strike a hand, which is also full stick intersection.  Nearly zero time is spent in the range in which a strike will touch an opponent's head, and this typically is accomplished with a timed lunging strike.  Instead, opponents close and hug (because it's safer) and typically fall to the ground and roll around without causing much damage until fight buzzer is over, well, because it's hard to do anything else. 

A comparison to the number and quality of punches delivered to a heavy bag vs. a moving opponent in a boxing match is fairly accurate.  Finally, there is the gentleman's agreement that an obviously one-sided stick fight will not end with a finishing stick blow to a disabled opponent's head.  Crafty Dog wisely refers to this in his pre-Gathering speech, and I believe that the fighters reliably pay heed to the warning.  The phrase I like and use at my training club is "1. Do not cripple your friend, and 2. Do not bring him to tears."

Martial Arts Topics / Re: R.I.P. C-Desert Dog
« on: February 23, 2011, 04:05:48 PM »
I'm sorry to read this.  What a shock to have a competitive athlete leave us so mysteriously.  Still, it's an ideal way to go.  On behalf of myself and my fighting friends in the Baltic-Dog clan, may C-Desert Dog be fighting and drinking in Valhalla.

Hey, they were on sale.  All of the local Goodwills/Salvation Armys stopped selling their chairs to me after they were left with a bunch of de-chaired tables.   The OSH chairs fell apart in the first 15 seconds, so  I recommend the $14.99 IKEA Terge, which is offered in lighter stain and a handsome darker stain.  Yuppie/Bobo chair fights cost about $30 round.

On a most serious note, be very careful when fighting with chairs and ask those on the sidelines to watch when the chairs smash into wooden spikes capable of killing anyone.

Martial Arts Topics / "Uppercut" (2011) on amateur fighting with weapons
« on: February 09, 2011, 02:00:11 PM »
A few friends of mine and I are in this short piece on amateur fighting,
 in the series "California is a Place" by Drea Cooper and Zackary Canepari

"Uppercut" (2011)
Click on 4 arrows in the lower right hand corner for Full-Screen Mode

Yeah, there isn't much fighting in the video as the focus is on the people.

Bump.  We should bump this thread everytime the show re-airs.

On January 18 12-1am, Fight Club No Limits is on the Comcast HD (757 in Northern CA) and SD (273 in Northern CA) .

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DB on PPV TV
« on: January 06, 2011, 11:59:34 AM »
Crafty Dog,

I am an eager customer for a quality DVD of the PPV show.  The typical Comcast streaming quality is very low, below DVD quality.  This is the case for UFC and other pay-per-view events and makes for a disappointing showing of UFC for a party.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DB on PPV TV
« on: December 22, 2010, 11:18:25 AM »
The PPV show is no longer listed on Comcast.  Anyone see it on another network?

Crafty, are you planning to distribute this show on DVD?  Comcast's streaming download quality was not very good with lots of video compression artifacts, and it would be fantastic to see this show in broadcast quality.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DB on PPV TV
« on: November 05, 2010, 02:20:19 PM »
There appear to be fewer reruns of the show, though you can record this on your DVR.  Catch it while you can.

For Pacific Standard time :

November 7 8:00 AM   873   Replay   Stick Fights: Dog Bros' Cruel Combat
3:30 PM   872   Replay   Stick Fights: Dog Bros' Cruel Combat
November 11 11:00 AM   873   Replay   Stick Fights: Dog Bros' Cruel Combat
November 13 11:00 AM   871   Replay   Stick Fights: Dog Bros' Cruel Comb

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