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Martial Arts Topics / Escrima styles
« on: February 11, 2012, 05:13:44 AM »
Hi all!
Just wondering what others have observed about different styles of escrima and their suitability in full contact engagements. I have more experience with corto range arts, and am expanding into largo. I have done a fair bit of full contact sparring (with and without different levels of protective gear). I have always been a "purist" enthusiast, meaning if one studies Doce Pares (for example), and an independent observer can watch their movement and technique and determine independently what their background is, they are faithful to their teaching. I have trained in rigid environments where all of the technique disappears in a fight and looks nothing like the original style. Then I wonder, what's the point of training lIke this if the training is not evident in application? I have also trained in environments where there is no clear "pedigree" and notice there is a lack of understanding in movements that are borrowed liberally from others.
I have intentionally used very stylized technique in fights before simply to see if the technique is valid under stress. I have also trained with groups who do not test their technique under stress at all, but they sure look pretty fluid in training! But a determined, aggressive opponent makes years of their training disappear.
Do others feel certain styles are more suitable for fighting? Is hybridized technique, and not purist constructs, the most realistic solution? Is style more important that methodology and intent in training, or vice versatile? Is there any point in studying a single style/system? There seems to be no truly successful MMA purist, but definitely fighters with strong foundations that branch out to supplement their game. Has anyone seen fighters with little to no formal escrima training fight successfully in full contact events? If so, were they relying on other skill sets?
Just curious. My journey continues and I appreciate the nuanced input of others!
Just wondering what others have observed about different styles of escrima and their suitability in full contact engagements. I have more experience with corto range arts, and am expanding into largo. I have done a fair bit of full contact sparring (with and without different levels of protective gear). I have always been a "purist" enthusiast, meaning if one studies Doce Pares (for example), and an independent observer can watch their movement and technique and determine independently what their background is, they are faithful to their teaching. I have trained in rigid environments where all of the technique disappears in a fight and looks nothing like the original style. Then I wonder, what's the point of training lIke this if the training is not evident in application? I have also trained in environments where there is no clear "pedigree" and notice there is a lack of understanding in movements that are borrowed liberally from others.
I have intentionally used very stylized technique in fights before simply to see if the technique is valid under stress. I have also trained with groups who do not test their technique under stress at all, but they sure look pretty fluid in training! But a determined, aggressive opponent makes years of their training disappear.
Do others feel certain styles are more suitable for fighting? Is hybridized technique, and not purist constructs, the most realistic solution? Is style more important that methodology and intent in training, or vice versatile? Is there any point in studying a single style/system? There seems to be no truly successful MMA purist, but definitely fighters with strong foundations that branch out to supplement their game. Has anyone seen fighters with little to no formal escrima training fight successfully in full contact events? If so, were they relying on other skill sets?
Just curious. My journey continues and I appreciate the nuanced input of others!