Dog Brothers Public Forum

Maybe incarceration rates would be lower if the consequences were more feared.

Be careful of walking down this dark allyway. Other places in the world have such policies and we DONT want to be like them. Cutting off the hands of a thief comes to mind.   

Would the lack of training be yours or that of the man in the clip? 

Lol, a fair enough question on of forum full of people you may have only met a couple times.

All said and done, he took no damage, secured the outside angle, and noticed the other possible threat. There is certainly much that could be improved on, but my post wasn't about any of that. 

This is certainly the place for that discussion though!

This is gonna sound like a stupid question, but, do you wear mouth guards in addition to the fencing helmet.

I do. I saw many others doing the same.

I was actually at the seminar 

the way they train is certainly a big part of the problem. If they trained in the same range as Judo, or wrestling, I think some of it is legit. Also, the passive mentality of aikido and many of its practitioners is a big problem if you want any of it to work in real time. I have dusted some of that stuff off and am looking at it again lately, but I have a greater appreciation for what it takes to make something functional thanks to Guro Crafty and the other Dog Brothers. I also approach it with a healthy amount of skepticism, because most of it runs counter to what I know from personal experience. 3 years is hardly enough time to have a comprehensive understanding of a martial art, but in that same amount of time C-Gaurd Dog has taught me many things that do work in real time. I have used them in sparring, and at a gathering. They pass the test 

I am not ragging on the content of TMA's. I think they have a lot of great content. They just lack people who are willing to test their claims. I am definitely hoping Anderson Silva surprises everyone with some of the stuff in that video! But if I were a betting man I wouldn't wager any money on it...

I really like the idea of blocking the head to prevent the wrestling shot, but I can see it leading to a lot of accidental eye gouges. Its a basic principle in any grappling system that where the head goes the body follows. This isn't really a knew idea, but the specifics of what was being done in that video were different than I had seen before.

The hammer fists and chops are great, but I think the context is wrong. Too much catching punches out of thin air. Although if anyone can pull it off its probably AS. I spent about 3 years on aikido when I was younger, and was in several fights where I got to try out its validity. Lets just say it didn't perform as well as advertised. The range they train at is wrong. In a clinch situation it has some value, but you will NEVER pull a wrist lock off a punch unless you are some sort of mutant.

The stuff they were doing on the ground is probably not so useful.

My initial reaction...

A couple of thoughts. We can probably learn a lesson or two from the sport element of mma/grappling and apply those concepts to the knife/anti knife dynamic. It occurs to me that when given the choice I will go for a choke over an arm bar. I have found that really tough guys, or guys with over sized egos may not tap to techniques that simply produce pain. The same can be said about mma and ground and pound tactics. Eventually the fight may be stopped by the ref, but it usually isn't the fighter who calls it quits. In a situation that is our life vs theirs shouldn't be be looking for the stategy that bails us out the fastest? A solid blood choke is not a matter of toughness on the part of your opponent. Lack of blood to the brain will stop his resistance even if he is unusually tough, or full of gusto! Can this concept be applied to the knife somehow? Is relying on pain the best plan?

M:

Have you seen my post of 6/13 wherein I define my term?

Ack! The devil is in the details... I had missed this somehow.

Still, an interesting discussion even if I did side track it a bit.

Padraig

Yes, cardio! Although I could be totally wrong and my perceptions wildly off, it felt like my double stick fight vs Kaju dog at last years open gathering ran for an eternity. At the time I would have estimated it to be around 5 minutes. Looking back it may only have been 3? I don't really know. I am quite sure it was exhausting though

Prepare yourself for the size of the sticks and the power people will be swinging with. Drill will your training partners putting some serious force into thier swings. Maybe it is just me (it was my first gathering after all) but I found this to be quite a shock. Dog Mauricio slammed the stick clear out of my hand with only stick on stick contact. Not ideal!

I sparred someone with a tennis ball in a sock the other day. About as close as I can get

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100504/ap_on_re_us/us_target_stabbings

WEST HOLLYWOOD, Calif. – A woman who stabbed and wounded four people in a busy Target store Monday afternoon was arrested when an off-duty sheriff's deputy pulled his gun and ordered the woman to the ground as screaming shoppers ran from the building, authorities said.

Layla Trawick used a butcher's knife and a carving knife to attack the victims, using both blades at the same time — one in each hand, like in the movie "Psycho," sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore said

"She was literally walking up and down the aisles slashing people," he said.

A mother holding her baby was stabbed in the neck and was in critical condition, Whitmore said. The baby was unhurt and all four victims were expected to survive.

One witness said she was shopping for a Mother's Day card when she heard someone screaming, "There is no witness protection program!" as chaos broke out in the store.

"I don't know what it means but she was yelling that repeatedly and at the top of her lungs," said Katy Winn, a freelance photographer from West Hollywood. "I think I heard (the deputy) telling her to drop to the floor. That's when things got really chaotic and started falling over."

Winn said she dropped her basket and dashed across the store to the women's section, where she hid behind the clothing racks.

"From the moment the screaming started it was about five minutes. But it felt longer than that," she said.

Los Angeles County Sheriff's Deputy Clay Grant Jr. said he was picking up paper towels and other items when people around him started running and screaming.

Grant grabbed his duty weapon, identified himself as a sheriff's deputy and ordered the woman to drop the knives, he said. She ran away and he followed her from aisle to aisle.

Grant was wearing a white T-shirt, camouflage shorts and running shoes so several shoppers mistook him for a gunman, adding to the sense of panic, sheriff's Sgt. Josh Mankini said.

Grant followed Trawick from aisle to aisle, until she turned and waved the knives at him from above her head, he said.

But he decided not to shoot because he didn't feel his life was in jeopardy, he said. For a second time, he ordered her to drop the knives and finally she complied.

"I was more concerned about the knife, more than what she was saying," Grant said. "Her facial expression was someone who was lost, confused, didn't know exactly where they were."

Trawick was arrested with the help of private security guards and held on $1 million bail on suspicion of attempted murder. Investigators were trying to determine whether the 34-year-old Antioch woman got the knives in the store.

Speaking to reporters at a sheriff's station later, Grant was modest.

"I don't feel like I'm a hero, I just do what I'm trained to do," he said.

Whitmore said surveillance video cameras captured the stabbings, but the tape hasn't been released.

"If he wasn't there, who knows? Someone would be dead right now," Mankini said. "He had no communication with outside law enforcement. He's just some guy doing his shopping. We're pretty proud of him."

Mankini said Grant, a five-year veteran of the department, was authorized to have a weapon in the store.

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Associated Press Writer Raquel Maria Dillon in Los Angeles contributed to this report.

I think the line between MMA and a real fight is much thinner than most people realize. This is only my opinion, but it is much easier to graft the weapon element on to a clinch scenario if you already have a good clinch game.

My last canine family member was a golden retriever. Loyal, and loving, but terrified of flashlights. Probably not all that great as a guard dog

My father also had a doberman when I was a teenager. He never barked for some reason. The smaller kids in the neighborhood used to ride him around like a horse and he loved it. He would wait at the edge of the yard until the school bus dropped them off in the afternoon.

I tend to end up with big, friendly, goofy dogs. Maybe that says something about me?  *shrug*

Too much crying about what the other person is doing...

You bring up some good points, but Chuck survived a loooooooong time with a deep understanding of takedown defense. I didn't say you need to wrestle guys to the ground, or learn the wrestling top game. But learning how to stuff a shot and make them pay for it is something that many fighters have successfully developed.

I definitely agree that most of these mma black belts are simply not that good. But at the same time the days of Rickson and the one trick pony fighters are gone.

The Forgotten Cop

Thought provoking in many ways, thanks GM.

Police: Rockview inmate assaults corrections officers
From CDT staff reports
A corrections officer was assaulted by an inmate at the State Correctional Institution at Rockview who then injured two other officers when they came to his aid, state police at Rockview said.

At about 7:30 p.m. on New Year’s Eve, police said a 50-year-old inmate became involved in a dispute with a corrections officer. When the officer turned, the inmate struck the officer in the face with his fist.

While the officer was dazed, the inmate struck him in the face again, and he fell to the ground as other officers rushed to his assistance, police said. Two other corrections officers attempted to restrain the inmate, and during the struggle one suffered an injury to his eye and the other suffered a shoulder injury.

The first officer who was struck suffered a fractured nose, police said.



Read more: http://www.centredaily.com/news/breaking_news/story/1706771.html#ixzz0bfSWAET2

The urge to hibernate is almost irresistible when you live in the north. If lifting and strength is your thing have you considered using something other than rattan? Pipes filled with sand, or rebar or something? I have had my eye on those torque blades for a while now...

Also on the subject of the finale, I'm glad that Jon Jones lost by disqualification he was clearly the superior fighter, but he committed an obvious foul and I'm glad they followed the rules and DQ'd him.

I sort of think it is a stupid rule. Why are those more dangerous than any other elbow?

Also, I have a sense of deep satisfaction that my years of pushing for IFWA (in fight weapon access) have finally taken root. 

Well, in my case I didn't have much of a choice since my stick went sailing out of my hands at approximately the speed of light  

I am glad of the following:

a) that the direction the stick went was AWAY from the children in the audience!

b) I was able to close and deploy my knife quickly and efficiently under that sort of pressure!

This clip takes me right back to that post fight altered state.

After the Jonesboro shootings, one of the high school teachers told me about her students' reaction when she told them that someone had shot a bunch of their little brothers, sisters, and cousins in the middle school. "They laughed," she told me with dismay, "they laughed." We have raised a generation of barbarians who have learned to associate human death and suffering with pleasure (Grossman & DeGaetano, 1999).

I have been told that this is not uncommon, or unhealthy in any way. Children are not emotionally developed enough to grasp the depth of what happened in traumatic situations like this. Laughter, or indifference, or even making silly noises with their mouths are all to be expected. In time they will grasp what happened and show more appropriate responses. It has nothing to do with associating death with pleasure. They just don't know how to react, and more often have not even processed what has happened.

I would go into a rant about bad parenting, and how these companies only sell this stuff because it is popular... but I don't have kids so I will refrain.

I don't know about Fit, or Functional, but it certainly was Fun!

"This just gets worse and worse the more you dig into it," Lt. Mark Gagan of the Richmond Police Department. "It was like a horror movie. I can't believe not one person felt compelled to help her."

Says it all...

Any word on this guy?

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/15/5x-worlds-strongest-man-mariusz-pudzianowski-set-for-mma-debut/

Back when I had cable I used to watch those strong man competitions. That guy was inspiring to say the least! If I recall correctly he does have previous martial arts experience. I can't recall off the top of my head what it was exactly, but I do remember thinking "jesus I would hate to be in a fight with that guy!"

"Ms. To says she signed the Conditions of Membership and Release form 
but did not read it carefully or fully understand it," court documents 
state. "She knew if she did not sign it her sons would not be allowed 
to enrol in Hapkido classes. She says she had no intention of waiving 
her sons' rights to sue..."

This rubs me the wrong way. Why do people sign things that they don't read or understand?

I think it is important that you just find a place and/or routine you are comfortable with (and that a doctor agrees with) and get started. Get the first dvd series and start working on it. Add some mild cardio and see where it takes you. As along as you understand that you probably won't see instant results you should be fine. Just keep at it, and as you progress you can always add more!  If you are like the majority of people out there then getting started will be the hardest part.

I really like the idea of recording yourself so you can compare your movements with those of the videos. I have found watching recordings of myself sparring to be an invaluable resource in my progress. You have a reference point, and can see the areas where you look choppy! Thanks for the idea