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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Citizen-Police interactions
« on: November 07, 2007, 03:42:46 AM »
Wow.  That just shows how different the laws are in differing states.  In Kentucky you have no right to resist an arrest, even if it is later proven to be an unlawful arrest.  That case would have been completely different here.

Part of the reason that the issue of what the police can and cannot do is so muddy is that many people go to extremes.  Some people seem to think we can do anything while others think we have almost no authority at all.  As usual, the truth is in the middle.

I have more to say, but no time right now.  Will post again later today.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: What would you have done?
« on: April 28, 2007, 09:40:14 AM »
Let's hope he gets convicted and gets the book thrown at him.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Cops need naps
« on: April 23, 2007, 05:05:21 PM »
I worked midnight shift for 8 years straight.  I got off at 8 AM and had to pick up my kids by 5 pm.  I went to court 3-4 days a week  until at least 10:30.  Got home and got in bed by about 12:00 and got up at 4 so I could go get the kids.  I was always tired and cranky.  I know I was not performing at peak levels.  I didn't get to nap before going to work very often because I wanted to actually enjoy being with my family, working out, etc.

I don't know any cops, EMT's, or even ER people that didn't nap occasionally on night shift.  Of course firemen are expected to sleep on duty.

It always amazes me that the people we expect to make the most critical life and death decisions (cops, ER doctors, EMTs etc.) work hours that keep them from being at their best when they make those critical decisions.  I know that emergencies happen at the worst times, but I have always believed there should be some kind of trade off in time somewhere so these people can get the proper amount of rest.  Shift differential pay is great, but it doesn't replace sleep.

As for me, I went to straight days last August and couldn't be happier.

Guro Crafty,

I am not associated with the silat mubai people and do not speak for them.  I had looked at their stuff on the web because I am always looking to see what is out there.  If you go to their webpage now, you get a redirect that takes you to a new page with the following text, this is a direct cut and paste from  :

Notice to Members and Friends

Salam Alaikum / Peace Be Upon You

After much thought and deliberation, myself and the governing board of SMI have decided to terminate Silat Mubai International as an organization.

Over the past two years I mistakenly allowed myself to be dragged into political debate and with time SMI as an organization became politicized and dragged in aswell. This was a mistake. It is a mistake which has led to our Silat, Chivalry teachings, and students being backbenched while political rambling, slander, and arguing has taken the front seat.

I did not work the last 15 years of my life on this Silat to have it turned into an object of dejection and horror, rather the opposite was intended. So to keep to the original mission objectives of SMI which are to promote traditional Muslim Fighting Arts, Chivalry and Warrior Ethos, the decision has been made to destroy SMI and start fresh.

Silat Mubai as a system will remain intact but will receive a name change to Pencak Silat Sharaf. The last word "Sharaf" meaning honour in the Arabic language. This was chosen to respect those who came before us who left this great heritage for future generations to benefit from. The Silat Tarab which trained the core combatives of Silat Mubai will remain intact without change as a it was before, a quickly learned reality based self defense system.

Those persons who were enrolled in our Emir programs or any courses with us, your work will be forwarded on to the new system. The training curriculum will remain the same. We still teach one of the toughest and most functional systems of Silat on the planet. That will not change either.

For future correspondences please email us at and visit the new school site at

Your hard work and dedication is much appreciated and respected.

Wasalam / Sincerely

Ustaz Hussein Udom

We all have to be very careful about who we teach or learn from and why.  I have no doubt that some of the Silat systems that come from the Muslim Malay Archipeligo are being used by terrorist organizations.  The Silat Mubai people recently completely disbanded their organization just to try and get out of all the political crap they had gotten themselves into. 

I personally would rather that politics and martial arts never, ever mix, but due to human nature, this is impossible.  I personally believe in this country and our constitution and will never train with anyone that I think is against it.  Period. 

Martial Arts Topics / Re: What would you have done?
« on: March 28, 2007, 03:12:39 PM »
For civilians in this situation, there is really no easy answer.  You would have to what was in your heart.  I bet that this isn't the first time that this guy did something bad and the other cops probably know how he is, but he just hasn't done anything (until now) that he could be fired for.

I think you would still have to protect the innocent person.  If you hurt him, you might be in trouble until that video got out to the public, but then you would be OK.

I guess that what we are really getting at is choosing what is right over what is convenient.  We can all stand up and say we would protect her from a generic "attacker," but when the attacker becomes an off duty cop, we know that the situation just got a lot more complicated.  Being complicated doesn't remove the responsibility to defend a defenseless woman from very large man that is actively beating her.

There isn't an easy answer, but my sister works in a bar, and I know that if an off duty cop attacked her, I sure hope someone would come to her aid.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: What would you have done?
« on: March 25, 2007, 07:11:32 PM »
I would have stopped him.  I am a cop and his being a cop wouldn't stop me for a second.  There is just no way around it, this guy is a violent predator that shouldn't be a cop.  She was very lucky.

Just a week ago I threw an off duty cop out of a movie theater.  Long story short, he had an argument with an employee and when they asked him to leave he flashed his badge and told them that they couldn't make him leave and that other police wouldn't make him leave.  He was wrong on both counts.

I will be the first to defend other cops, even if they mess up, as long as they are trying to do the right thing.  But when they are bad in the heart, they have to go.  They make the rest of us look bad.

Martial Arts Topics / Law Enforcement issues
« on: July 11, 2006, 06:30:37 AM »
Even in places like Louisville, KY (where I am,) the trend of getting rid of the projects and moving these people out to the suburbs is common.  In the suburb of Louisville where I work, we have seen several apartment complexes go to Section 8.  We also have a large influx of Hispanics.  They are mostly peaceful, hard working people, but their gangs always come with them.  Everyone should be vigilant for their own personal safety, those of us wearing a badge have to be extra cautious.

Martial Arts Topics / Knife vs. Gun
« on: February 25, 2006, 03:02:52 AM »
Absolutely, the Tueller drill (21 ft rule) applies to the average officer versus averge bad guy with a knife.  If either one is well trained and practicing proper tactics then all bets are off.

Martial Arts Topics / Knife vs. Gun
« on: February 22, 2006, 05:35:26 PM »
I don't post much, mostly just read so I will let you know my background before I answer.  I am a police officer.  I am a trainer for my department in firearms, defensive tactics and taser.  I have a background in several martial arts, dating back to childhood, but I am fairly new to Filipino arts.

This question, to me, would come down to action versus reaction.  Basically, if they are of similar skill, the first one to make a move would probably win.  At this close a distance I would give the knife a slight edge (LOL) but a handgun is still a very effective weapon, even while grappling.  The average persons perception/reaction time is 1.5 seconds.  If you pair that down .5 second since the individual in this scenario would already be keyed up, that still gives the initiator a full second to close the 10 feet and attack or draw and fire.  That is a decent amount of time for a trained person to be able to do it.

The other factor is, do both people know they are in a deadly force encounter?  If both weapons are concealed, neither one may be aware of the fact that the other is ready for a deadly force encounter.  Most cuttings I have worked involve a victim who never saw the knife until after he was cut.  Usually the guy that shows off the knife is more of a bluffer, while someone who plans to cut will keep the knife hidden while they get as close as possible for the sneak attack.  A gunman, on the other hand, will usually present the weapon as a display of force whether he intends to use it or not.  I have never shot anyone, but I have pointed handguns at more people than I can count.  I was ready, but they chose not to be shot.  I have never cut anyone either.  I have been ready to do so, but the knife stayed in my pocket the whole time.

Just more food for thought.

Martial Arts Topics / Greetings
« on: February 03, 2006, 06:27:14 PM »
Hello all,

I have been lurking here for a couple of weeks and decided to start posting.  I am a lifelong student of martial arts, but fairly new to the Filipino arts.  

I am absolutely blown away by the overall Dog Brothers philosophy.  I have a keen interest in both the Filipino and Thai arts so when I saw the Los Triques promo, I had to have it.  I ordered it and the Krabi Krabong DVD.  I plan to join the association as soon as I get a few more spare funds.

Anyway, I look forward to learning from you all.  

Lewis Christopher

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