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Martial Arts Topics / Re: DBMA's Snake Range
« on: May 15, 2011, 01:58:05 PM »
GC: I LOVE it when someone breaks it down to the elementary school level so I can "get it". Nice to have the benefit if your detailing. Continuing to be my weakest area (not that I have a strong area LOL) is making decisions on engagement... breaking my opponent's bubble... Just plain old when/how to initiate engagement (rather than just respond to it). Thanks for teasing this out a bit.

I wanted to extend my wishes for a great time of growth among Tribe members. KNOW my heart is with you even though I can not be with you in person and that I stand firm with the Tribe. You all have my best wishes for honorable and skillful fights as well as excellent times of personal growth.

Affirmations and Blessings - Dog Howie

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DBMA School Program
« on: February 13, 2011, 05:54:25 PM »
<SNIP>...we are proud to announce the first school in the DBMA School Program:  Pete Juska's school in Chicago...<SNIP>

I'm EXTREMELY psyched to read of this development! In one sense a small step but in another sense quite a major one. All my best for success in all areas including Training, Ideological and Financial.

Welcome to the board. Although some personal issues may prevent me from fighting this September, I plan on, at the least, standing with the Tribe and I look forward to witnessing your first fights at a Gathering. C-Growling Dog has said that a person steps on the mat at their first Gathering as one person and they step off the mat another one. I've never met a fighter who disagrees with that assertion. September will be here before you know it!!

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Rest in Peace
« on: January 31, 2011, 05:13:24 PM »
Fitness Guru Jack LaLanne Dies at 96

Gents.... I'm moved by this. I recall him in the same way that I recall Bruno Sanmartino and the early "studio" wrestlers. Sort of off the radar but never-the-less had a place of inspiration in my soul. In terms of accessibility and visibility he definitely changed things and made his mark. Nice to recall and give credit where it is truly due.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Feb 4-6: Guro Crafty in Chicago
« on: January 31, 2011, 04:53:06 PM »
Just learned of the possibility of being in Chicago later this week. If that actually happened I could have the honor of hanging out with the tribe over the weekend. Too early to tell for sure but "hope" is a nice thing to have!!

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Dealing with the adrenaline dump
« on: January 23, 2011, 12:53:53 AM »
Re: Peyton Quinn- RMCAT=Rocky Mountain Combat Applications Training. I attended this training at his dojo and home outside of Colorado springs last year. Though there were some downsides, the advantages far compensated for the problems. It was DEFINITELY helpful for anyone desiring to train their adrenaline.  Go to for info and for questions from an actual trainee (me) anyone interested can send me a direct message and I'll be certain to respond (note: I will not be checking this board or email during month of February, 2011. But I'll reply to messages starting again in March.) Peyton Quinn has definitely "been around"' and his stories of grey operations of his and his "associates" are in themselves worth the tuition. LOL Tbis is a man who has DEFINITELY "been there, done that"!

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Prayer and Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: January 21, 2011, 04:46:34 PM »
Also grateful to be praying for the tribe member with major health issue. And grateful that "prayer" is far more than "talking to air".

Martial Arts Topics / Re: The Older Warrior
« on: January 18, 2011, 12:01:07 PM »
SG, Guide Dog and Kostas: I happened to see your encouraging comments just now for the first time. I truly think that I am doing just nothing more than what you and what many others are doing. And that is simply doing what we were born to do. Many of us on these boards and at the Gatherings are here because we take seriously and literally Guro Crafty's call to walk as warriors for all our days. This is who we are. Its what we were born to do. We are here doing what we do because, more literally than figuratively,  this board... The Tribe and the joy of the fight is our home. Where else would we go? What else would we do?  And BTW Kostas...I am hoping to stand with the Tribe in May and fight again with the Tribe in September. Certainly... the adventure continues!

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Dealing with the adrenaline dump
« on: January 18, 2011, 05:33:35 AM »
Is there any was to desensitize myself a bit?
<snip>...From this POV, the solution would be to deal with this sort of situation more often. I'm not sure that'd be too wise, however... :?
YES! There are many ways to both train yourself to function inside your adrenaline! Here are some suggestions that I have found to be helpful to me.

A. An adrenaline dump  is a normal and healthy thing. Tell yourself not to fear it because it's only a physiological response to a stimuli. It's not fear, it's just a chemical. Once you understand that you can step back from yourself and look at the experience and begin to manage it instead of it managing you. I attempt to look at my adrenaline as another weapon in my  arsenal. I try to use it both defensively and offensively.

B. Good news is that to practice training yourself to deal with your adrenaline you do not have to get into life threatening situations. This is one of the reasons we promote real-contact fighting. In a real-contact situation you will find that your body/mind will respond, in terms of adrenaline, very much as if you are truly fighting for your life. But, there are other ways to familiarize yourself with your adrenaline.

C. Although not the intensity of a fight I have found great value in exposing myself to adrenaline stimulating "entertainment" such as an intense roller coaster. Agreed... It's not the same as a real-contact fight  but I surely get an adrenaline dumpand if I'm actually seeking to experience and understand my body and experience the adrenaline NOT fir entertainment but rather for exploration I find this seemingly silly idea to be VERY helpful to me. I approach the "ride" as an experiment and i purposefully train myself To be aware of my  physiological responses during the experience. All I can say is that this has helped me.

DBMA is well aware that a familiarization of, and resulting comfort with one's adrenaline response is important because it can free you to respond much better than if you become confused and debilitated by it.

I'm sure others will have more ideas. But do be encouraged because your adrenaline dump IS trainable and, if you are like me, you will benefit greatly from doing so.  

I would like to encourage fighters to consider fighting Stick y Daga with the dage being a substantial aluminum blade.  The idea here is to develop skill sets that discourage bum rushes into messy..."
Crafty: could u elaborate on ideas you have that would discourage "rushes into grappling". If I understand u correctly you are connecting the weapon with discouraging that. Assuming I understand your thinking can u explain how this would discourage such tactic? Also would u help me understand why u would want to discourage this or are you saying that we need to develop better responses to "bum rushes ending in grappling"?

Martial Arts Topics / Re: The Older Warrior
« on: January 02, 2011, 11:51:01 AM »
Just to throw my encouragement in the mix gentlemen, my first fight at a Gathering was a couple years ago at age 56.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Prayer and Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: December 11, 2010, 05:29:39 AM »
Grateful for a day off from an exhausting schedule.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DBMA School Program
« on: December 11, 2010, 05:28:24 AM »
Crafty: Excellent background and intro to the program. Boo Dog.... take us onward m'man!

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Prayer and Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: December 06, 2010, 08:35:46 AM »
Grateful for the discovery if a new part if the world I'm visiting for the first time.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF CANCER
« on: December 04, 2010, 07:51:44 AM »
C-Growling Dog:
Congrats on not sitting on your butt and thinking about "doing something". Instead you DID something. My "inner cynic" often observes that I often hear many, many people who have never done anything themselves complain about people who actually DO do something. You didn't wait around for someone else. You just got the gonads to organize something instead of sitting on your butt and complaining.

Please accept my congratulations and admiration! This goes out not only for your efforts but for all of the participants. If not for my previous commitment to participate/help an individual who is currently fighting cancer himself,  I would be joining you and the rest to "beat
The Crap" out of the disease today.

Might I encourage readers of this forum to click on the donation link you provided below and participate. Most  can afford a donation... even if just a  few dollars. I wager most reading this CAN donate $5 or more.  I KNOW it. The process is simple and takes 5 minutes. It does make a difference.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Prayer and Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: November 22, 2010, 02:31:17 PM »
Grateful to have been taught how to  walk through fire w open eyes and a clear head. And for those who's instruction helped me do just that.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF CANCER
« on: October 26, 2010, 07:46:05 PM »
Im in for the beating.

Yesterday was filled with excellent training times. The group had a good diversity of background, experience and age. GC, continues to adapt himself seamlessly to the aggregate interests of those in attendance and makes certain he gets to everyone while we are working and he offers correction and direction. On a personal level Terry, Terrys boys, Lone Wolf and Nig Fog (that's Big Dog with auto spelling typo) have extended themselves a lot to me and I am very grateful. BTW, typo or not I'm liking that "Nig Fog" moniker.  LOL.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Citizens defend themselves/others.
« on: October 13, 2010, 01:32:07 AM »
Any company that says that they would rather have you die than open them up to liability, is a company with hostile work environment policies...........
As a clarification, if you are using the phrase "hostile work environment" to underscore your point then I follow you. However the legal definition and even the intent if the regulations surrounding a hostile work environment have nothing to do the matters of this discussion but are intended, in most situations, to address racial and gender related issues. Thus IMHO, use of the phrase outside of the legislative/legal intent of it dilutes the understanding of the language.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Citizens defend themselves/others.
« on: October 13, 2010, 01:14:15 AM »
Guns in the work place? Not in mine. I run a small business and take the safety of the work environment very seriously. I have been in business for many decades and have seen time and time again pressured employees get to some point if temper loss. I am referring not only to "minimum wage" level employees but also "career" level employees making salaries that would dwarf most of ours. Employees get angry sometimes like when they butt heads with a fellow worker, when their pride is injured because of (even legit) criticism or if they need to be terminated. There is an incredible amount if genetic-based emotion that often displays during a termination or when an employee even thinks/feels their job is being threatened.... their jobs represent their ability to support their lives. These emotions very often defy logic.

One if the benefits of real contact fighting like we do at a Dog Brothers Gathering is that our emotions and our adrendline respond to the fight as if it were a real life or death confrontation even tho intellectually we know our opponent us not intending on killing us. There is a similar phenomena that happens when an employee is, for example, inside a termination process; even tho their lives and family are not really being physically  threatened they FEEL and often ACT exactly like that. Same happens sometimes when they find themselves working with a more talented co-worker and their competitive genetics cause them to feel threatened.

The truth is that the intensity of hardly any if these "feelings" are justified but, again,  bodies can respond in ways that are unpredictable ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IMHO, people are rarely trained in understanding the adrendline state.

Weapons and employees are an EXTREMELY bad idea. The average American employee is unfamiliar with most any bladed weapon or side arm or whatever and therefore are naturally fearful of them because they are what they appear to be... dangerous. Just because a lot of us have training surrounding weapons or are simply exposed and accustomed to some doesn't
Mean the average Joe or Jane is.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Prayer and Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: October 12, 2010, 12:09:14 PM »
Michael: The death of my 24 year old eldest son this summer (non military death) has allowed me to be that much more grateful for my fellow sojourner fathers who know the joy of welcoming their sons home.  I am glad to join you in grateful appreciation of his safe return.

Gents, what's the closest main airport to Bloomington? Lookin to figure flights.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Corrections and Prison
« on: September 30, 2010, 05:26:54 AM »
I give props to corrections officers... To be locked up with hundreds of them for an entire shift every day is something that would seem claustrophobic on a nbumber of different levels.  It's a difficult job....
To my thinking corrections officers who work in a high security environment must make up a very interesting sub-culture because of what they must have to do to psychologically survive. I imagine that they must have to work  "always on semi-adrenalized, always watching their backs". High burn out rate? Also if managing theist violent it must take a well trained disciplined mind to not allow the (assumed) ambient violence to infect their thinking outside of work.

I mean LEOs effectively go from call to call and address a variety of situations. But correctional guys have have full shifts of the stuff.

Yeah... Agreed... TOUGH, thankless job.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DB on PPV TV
« on: September 29, 2010, 07:39:41 PM »
Lurking but admittedly VERY psyched. Stuff like this could provide a nice financial boost to DB,Inc. I hope and also it's great to be able to tell people who ask me what kind if fighting I do... something to refer them to... I have referenced the discovery channel production a couple of times but it's great to have this.

Crafty, I'm wondering what your thinking is on privacy issues of fighters  (if you consider that fighters have any privacy issues in the first place)? This would be the first I have understood that footage would be available for viewing by the general media consumer.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Prayer and Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: September 29, 2010, 07:26:37 PM »
Grateful for the cooling that signals autumn in the north-east and the never-ending cycle of seasons. 

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Dog Brothers Open Gathering Sept 19, 2010
« on: September 29, 2010, 07:18:15 PM »
I was really pumped about the contributions made by my two "first timer" room mates Jake Skully and Matt Berry(sp?). Jake started training me this summer and I talked him into fighting this year himself. It didn't take much " talking into".  I was totally psyched by his showing. He was passionate and brave hearted. He ROCKED.     Matt flew in by himself from Boston not even knowing where he was gonna stay until he overheard snd then approached a few of us staying at the Marriott. He was getting ready to find a bench to sleep on until the gym opened in the AM but Jake and I offered him some pillows and carpet real estate. We later found that he has been single-mindedly training for 4 months from videos etc w his cousin just to fight at the gathering. Matt was passionate and red hot. I am fairly certain that both enjoyed the cuisine and will be back for second helpings.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: The Dog Brothers Tribe
« on: September 22, 2010, 04:34:51 PM »
It was really nice to be dogged on Sunday. Dog Howie is cool. Thanks GC. I dedicate this honor to the memory if my 24 year old son Jeremy who died a few months ago from a drug overdose. "Jeremy, I finished the fight that you were not able to bear, my son.   Rest in peace. In God's time we will meet again on the other side."

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Prayer and Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: September 13, 2010, 09:08:13 AM »
Grateful for friends, coach, docs and body that allowed enough recovery from recent trauma to fight Sunday. Originally i believed i would not be able to fight... maybe ever.  This is cool gentlemen. I'm grateful.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Dog Brothers Open Gathering Sept 19, 2010
« on: September 13, 2010, 08:57:06 AM »
I'll b there and bringing a first timer along.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Kali Tudo Working Examples
« on: September 01, 2010, 04:58:29 AM »
BTW.... today my trainer ate mat after I opened w a Vampire hiding an uppercut a 1/2 beat after. He said if I liked crazy moves like that we could train it because it "sure knocked me to my ass". As far as I'm concerned NOTHING is "crazy" if it works. And besides that it's friggin cool as anything to knock your trainer on his ass." :~)

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Dog Brothers Open Gathering Sept 19, 2010
« on: August 27, 2010, 09:54:14 AM »
Classified Ad: Help Wanted
Sept Gathering: Seeking Dog, C-Dog or Named Dog only to fight or at least discuss the possibility of fighting "Garden Hose with Brass Fittings vs. Garden Hose with Brass Fittings". I'm thinking 6ft black rubber with standard brass fittings on either end. I would make up duplicate weapons and mail out to opponent in time for getting familiar with it. Use it like whip, fold and strike with brass fittings end, fold and strike with loop end, interesting possibilities for chokes, trips, hog tie(?) etc.,etc.

Any interest please email (not PM) Click on my name at left of this message to find my email. Thanks.


Martial Arts Topics / Re: Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: August 07, 2010, 04:22:39 AM »
Grateful for the accountability I have to one who has properly executed their role thus allowing me to be corrected.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: July 02, 2010, 04:47:01 PM »
Grateful for new forum members.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: June 30, 2010, 04:44:01 PM »
Grateful to be able to carve out special times for each of my kids who have been part of great family stress recently. I've been privileged to demonstrate to them how to face hard times head on while I minimize their risk so it is appropriate for their age and personality.  Grateful that emulating some of the attributes of a Warrior to my chilldren also makes me feel fulfilled as a husband and father.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Dog Brothers Open Gathering Sept 19, 2010
« on: June 16, 2010, 06:01:11 PM »
Good advice Howie. I never thought about that, but it makes good sense.Just as an aside, I'm shooting for 3 fights that day. Is that a fair number? Punkishly low? Optimistically high?
here's the advice I got and I believe it to be good. If you aren't sure if u should take another fight then you SHOULD take it. U don't have to plan them all in advance so u can take more when u r there. U can always cancel and you will not be disrespected if u do. I'll just pass that on. Any opposing view gentlemen? 

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Citizen-Police interactions
« on: June 14, 2010, 07:45:25 AM »
I can't imagine the courts ultimately upholding these statutes.

Ultimately every area of government needs accountability. Just like citizens need to be held accountable to the laws. There issues are being made more difficult becuase we are dealing with meaningful changes in the availablity and distribution of both media and ideas brought about very recently and to very extreme degrees by advances in technology (specifically recording and production of audio/video and distribution of same). Remember it has been just the past 10 years...maybe 5 that Internet access has just rounded the corner to being widely available in the US. That is a VERY short time. Issues like Privacy and Defamation are just two issues that have been radically affected and the wave that is affecting them has not even ebbed yet. People still believe that what they read is true. One used to have a lot of credability and expertise to get a book published.... now anyone with a word processor can have their ideas available for sale and/or download at  Digital production allows virtual seemess editing and even the  most sophisticated layman would not be able to ID a  modified audio or video file (if modified well). And those "modifications" can now be accomplished on software systems that used to cost $250,000.00 and now similar features are available for $2500.00,,, And it's getting cheaper.... and better... quickly.

It will get harder and harder to credentialize video and audio evidence because of this alone. The threat to privacy is astounding... for instance did you know that THIS VERY FORUM is scanned by reporting agencies who associate the email address you use in your registration (if you show it publically on this forum) and then they merge that with other databases to get your personal information and associate it with your name and other activities. tHEY THEN ASSOCIATE YOUR FORUM PEN-NAME WITH YOUR ACTUAL NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOUR CREDIT HISTORY..... i;LL STOP THERE. BTW, when I said THIS forum I meant THIS ONE. And that isn't unusual... they scann all message boards.

we have aLONG way to go.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Tao of the Dog
« on: June 12, 2010, 09:25:08 PM »
I for one am both psyched and intrigued.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: June 12, 2010, 09:22:26 PM »
Grateful for an astonishing wife and soul-mate who is passionate about what I am passionate about even when she doesn't fully understand those passions.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Dog Brothers Open Gathering Sept 19, 2010
« on: June 12, 2010, 09:15:17 PM »
Thanks for the advice, I am on it. I also signed of for Guro Crafty's Kali Tudo Seminar in NYC in a couple weeks to sharpen my game up.
As a new fighter with little Martial Arts experience I'll throw some things that I leaarned from fighting at my first Gathering last year.  First is to fight guys that have some accountability and relationship with DBMA... this means guys that have fought at a number of gatherings, probably have a lot more experience than you and it may, but not always mean they are named dogs or "C" dogs. Open gatherings are just that.... open... and this removes "wild cards" and potential "crazies" from your list of opponents. By ideology the dogs will not be easy on you... in fact they will fight you hard BUT they will not go insane on you either. Experienced Dog Bros goals are to raise up fighters not destroy them. They know and believe this. Let the dogs respond to the "wild cards" and "crazies"... not you.

For me I just had a few attacks and blocks that I had been training in and, frankly, unless you have years of experience then it's better to get a few inside of your thinking than a lot that are just outside. You won't have time to think anyway and if you are like me then what comes out will be what you train the most.

The biiggest surprize I had was the intensity of the adrenaline dump and the strength/violence of the aggression. Dog Bros learn to strike hard... real hard..... prepare to hold your stick and not present your hands or sticks for disarm attempts. The intensity of the attacks took be back... I wasn't exposed to that level of attack before... it was GREAT feeling and experienceing it. The adrenaline dump threw me cause I didin't understand it. Be prepared to get intense fast aand respond fast.

Canada's Growling Dog once told me that stepping onto the mat at a gathering will change your life. It changed mine for the better and I continue to be extremely thankful for the opportunities provided. See you in September.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Spring 2010 DB Tribal Gathering
« on: April 27, 2010, 10:06:59 AM »
Anyone want to post any details about any of the fights? Single stick vs Single stick? Doubles? Knife vs stick? Others? Any overall observations.Was Kaju busier than usual or business as normal? Hey, I gotta ask questions as I'm in desperate need of vicariously living this through the experiences of others.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Dog Brothers Open Gathering Sept 19, 2010
« on: February 09, 2010, 12:31:28 PM »
Can my chatter start yet GC?

Martial Arts Topics / Re: KALI TUDO (tm) Article
« on: February 09, 2010, 12:30:46 PM »
I hope you guys don't mind me mentioning that IMHO Boo Dog was also an unsung hero in the Kali Tudo training Camp this past weekend. For those not there he served as "opponent" for Kenny Johnson and Crafty who both subjected him to all sorts of assaults upon his being... and they did it at several angles, over and over and over again. But Boo Dog just kept going and going and going. He got knocked down and hit the mats so many times I'm surprised there are not brush burns all over his face.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: February 09, 2010, 12:23:16 PM »
Grateful for a great training seminar and honorable people to train with and train under.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DBMA Kali Tudo (tm) Training Camp Feb 6-7
« on: February 09, 2010, 12:21:34 PM »
Thanks for an EXTREMELY great 2 days of training. Everything from the foot work, attack/block and technique that you instructed to Kenny Johnson's  Slap, Stuff, Sprawl on takedowns was REALLY valuable. What's also cool is that while there is no doubt that you and Kenny have world-class skill sets it is also cool for me to be under some world-class instruction; there are a lot of skilled people out there who can't teach. I came away with a lot that is going to keep me "busy" for some time for sure. I was very honored to be among such talent.


Martial Arts Topics / International Issues
« on: January 24, 2010, 05:15:10 PM »
Open request:

A couple of years ago my wife and I have been blessed to have formed a non-profit organization dedicated to providing food/nutrition to starving or needy children. I"m not requesting that you guys research any of this, just that if you happen to have any contacts please pass this along. Nutrisave is a non-profit but is NOT seeking donations at this time.

Currently we have allocated yet still undistributed modest funding (under US$250K at this time with possibly a duplicate allocation in February or March) specifically (narrowly) tagged to be used as follows:

1. Nutrisave will underwrite costs relating to emergent air transportation for Haitian orphans under various expidited visas directly to approved sponsoring U.S. organization and or adoptive parents who are U.S. citizens. (Approved funds to be distributed directly to airlines. Organizations and/or indiviiduals 'receiving' children must meet security and solvency requirements.)
2. Nutrisave will procure food and/or medical supplies which are formulated/manufactured specifically for the use of children birth-5 years of age for Haitian groups that can detail their ability to realize delivery of these items securely from Port AP airport to specific internal destinations (such as orphanages or schools for example).

Funding is limited and subject to prior distribution.

Nutrisave, Inc.
Howard Mandel

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DBMA Kali Tudo (tm) Training Camp Feb 6-7
« on: December 21, 2009, 12:40:32 PM »

Boxing Works at 307 Pacific Coast Highway looks a bit shabby on the outside but with Crafty Dog training it will be the friggin coolest gym you even been to in your life (OK... besides RyanG.'s gym in State College, PA cause he has a special "women's only exercise/workout room"... BTW, I REALLY want to know what goes on in that room. REALLY.)

Ahhh... a Holiday Inn Express just down the street at 125 Pacific Coast Highway. How Conveeeeeeeenient.This place looks sorta OK but Crafty Dog and the training camp won't be there so who cares.

Martial Arts Topics / Re: DBMA Kali Tudo (tm) Training Camp Feb 6-7
« on: December 07, 2009, 10:55:31 AM »
GC: Can't wait!!!!!!! Where is registration form?

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Law Enforcement issues
« on: December 05, 2009, 07:36:10 PM »
Is your skin so thin that getting stopped is offensive?

An old friend of mine and I were talking a few years back as he was getting ready to begin serving in the PA State Police. One of the things I'll always remember he said was that they were taught that their uniform, body and body language was their first weapon. (I assume first impressions weapon). I believe that one of the many very difficult jobs of a LEO is weilding their attributed power in a way that communicaates "authority" while at the same time not unintentionally escalating situations by inciting defensive responses from those involved in routine stops.

IMHO... Is it the responsibility of citizens to offer respect and humility when responding to authority, an authority "deserved" if for no other reason than the LEO has his job. It is also the responsibbility of the LEO to respect any citizen they encounter in a local  "stop" because the LEO, if for no other reason, is a public servant and thus they work for the person(s) they stop.

IMHO, depending on how the LEO handles things, a "routine stop" can indeed be extremely offensive in nature if the LEO is not very skilled or if they are insecure in weilding their authority. Personally I have encountered officers who are extremely professional and who present their authority in a manner that I perceive as resonable and fair. I've also encountered less skilled LEOS whose actions and demeanor convey inappropriate levels of agression and (indirectly then) could easily cause escalation to their situation.   I admire any cop wo can project his/her authority while at the same time coming off with a bit of humility. I'm not a cop and I don't play one on TV, but I'm not sure I could develop that balance if it was me.

I hadn't been to NC for 30+ years till a couple of months ago (1 of my sons is in university in Charlotte). ONce there I was reminded of how welcoming the area seems to be. Different from up here in Philadelphia for sure. Enjoy your stay.

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