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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Dealing with Social Breakdown (The UK riots)
« on: August 13, 2011, 08:46:45 AM »
"The majority of posters here seem to be of the die-hard republican variety..."
- taken as a compliment. I know the policy here is that thoughtful opposing views are always welcome, seeking the truth, and yours is certainly a thoughtful and informative post.
"...those of us who live outside of the US as generally we are ignored or looked down upon."
- I hope not! We get bogged down in US politics but the global reach of the forum is certainly a strength.
"...US have too relaxed firearms legislation."
- It's that darn constitution. Besides protection, the firearm is symbolic of keeping our other rights unless given back freely and legally through the constitutional process. I don't own any guns. I also think the strong views here about gun rights come from the martial arts / self defense orientation of the forum as much as from the political leanings. The desirability of having an armed society is a separate question from the specific 'right' in the U.S.
"Gardiner...right wing and a throwback to the Thatcher years"
- To me, a compliment for him, though I get the distinction that quoting Gardner from the Telegraph is a counter-indicator of UK mainstream political thought.
Speaking only for myself, the headlines of this unrest reminds me of other problems elsewhere, the car fires of Villiers-le-Bel (Paris) and riots in Rosengard (Malmo Sweden) but that does not mean there are similarities. As you point out we are learning about the participants and motivations of these in the UK.
I have not posted on this because I don't know anything yet, (except for one post in satire that Libya is recognizing the rioters as the official government of the UK. No offense intended!) My personal right wing view is that young people in general would riot less and destroy less if they were busy studying, working and responsible for providing for themselves.
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Topic for another thread and I may be reading this wrong, but why would people be pro-war in Libya but anti-war elsewhere like in Iraq?
- taken as a compliment. I know the policy here is that thoughtful opposing views are always welcome, seeking the truth, and yours is certainly a thoughtful and informative post.
"...those of us who live outside of the US as generally we are ignored or looked down upon."
- I hope not! We get bogged down in US politics but the global reach of the forum is certainly a strength.
"...US have too relaxed firearms legislation."
- It's that darn constitution. Besides protection, the firearm is symbolic of keeping our other rights unless given back freely and legally through the constitutional process. I don't own any guns. I also think the strong views here about gun rights come from the martial arts / self defense orientation of the forum as much as from the political leanings. The desirability of having an armed society is a separate question from the specific 'right' in the U.S.
"Gardiner...right wing and a throwback to the Thatcher years"
- To me, a compliment for him, though I get the distinction that quoting Gardner from the Telegraph is a counter-indicator of UK mainstream political thought.
Speaking only for myself, the headlines of this unrest reminds me of other problems elsewhere, the car fires of Villiers-le-Bel (Paris) and riots in Rosengard (Malmo Sweden) but that does not mean there are similarities. As you point out we are learning about the participants and motivations of these in the UK.
I have not posted on this because I don't know anything yet, (except for one post in satire that Libya is recognizing the rioters as the official government of the UK. No offense intended!) My personal right wing view is that young people in general would riot less and destroy less if they were busy studying, working and responsible for providing for themselves.
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Topic for another thread and I may be reading this wrong, but why would people be pro-war in Libya but anti-war elsewhere like in Iraq?