Dog Brothers Public Forum

I was glad to here all the elder's will be there! I am equally glad to here Dogzilla (Mike Tibbits) will be there too!

Woof Crafty,  Just curious if you recieved my fighter registration form?   Also: Good to see Dogzilla will be participating this gathering!  TS

Interesting idea.  Kind of borrowing from monster garage and also remanisent of the  Raw Gym warehouse doors. Maybe one could utilize the existing warehouse doors to achieve the previous mentioned idea. Possibly a stageing tent of sorts just outside the door? That way you could create a dark non defined background when fighters enter through the doors instead of cars in parking lot etc. How about some colored lights in the stageing area to give it a mood. Sort of like the rapidly moveing colored lights during the stageing of the old U.F.C. fights 2+3. or strobe lights.  What is O/P trying to achieve exactly. Are they looking to keep a modest real feel to this or maybe a more smoke and mirrors effect? (for lack of a better term)   I think the previous idea is a winner!  IMHO

Woof C-Cyborg Dog, What type of whip and how long? Have you ever used it in a real or play fight? If so, what was the outcome? P.S. If I do it it will have to be toward the end of the day.(In case of fight stopping injuries) See you there Bro!  TS

That's the spirit!   

Woof all, as Marc mentioned,  This June during the warm up fights,  I am going to introduce a swing knife which is  a wood dowel (representing a knife) connected to a  teather that wraps around the wrist and swings out like a nunchaku. It should be fun.     Also: I have some concerns about the knife fighting warm up's. It seems to me that many of the fighters are doing alot of crashing and  kicking during these "warm up fights" Although many people have different ideas of how a real knife fight scenario unfolds, my concern is that if I sustain an injury that keeps me from participating in a day of stick fighting, I will be really bummed. (very disapointed)  I think that these gatherings have atracted many serious knife fighters with something to prove which is a great thing except for the fact that the knife fights here are used as a warm up exercise before a day of hardcore stick fighting. I am sure I can find someone to knife fight with who has the same concerns as myself.   P.S.  I am also looking for someone to fight me against my single/double nunchaku. Size and weight not a concern to me.  I am 47 yr's old 6'5" 225 lbs. The nunchaku I use are rattan and very light weight so you can take a shot and not wory as much about serious injury. Anyone interested please post here.  TS

Here is the music.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPNai1EDos4&mode=related&search=

Simply cut rattan stick's to desired length and file/sand edges smooth so it is free of bur's and splinters .                     P.S.  I too just began training my 5 yr old daughter.

Woof Crafty,  Go ahead and make it 41 fighters. My fighters registration form will be in the mail box tonight!   That just sent a shiver up my spine that I have not felt in a long time. 

 Also: On the subject of boundaries.  I think that boundary lines made up of heavy punching bags and/or rolled up  mats placed (end to end) would work well.  Placed in a manner that would trip up the fighters and also provide a safe soft landing would be great. It also provides a good buffer zone free of unknown objects such as glass bottles and the like. It would also  give the spectators some measure of protection against fighters crashing into them. Even though it is understood that spectators enter at their own risk, I am sure we would all feel terrible if someone were to become seriously injured be it a fighter or spectator/children.     

 Woof Tom, Thanks for your support. Getting old sucks.

I just spoke with my doctor and he gave me a clean bill of health. Looking forward to the gathering !

Hey Marc,  I did a little searching and found this. Thought you might be interested.    http://www.origprod.com/theshows.htm

Woof Marc, I went to see my doctor  and he gave me pills to ease the pain in my leg if needed. It is actualy feeling better  today on it's own so thats a good sign. Unfortunitly he seemed to be more concerned about my lungs than my leg. Kind of sounds like one of your stories from stick and footwork video. He has me on Inhalers and did x-rays.(waiting for results)  I think stamina is going to be a factor for me this time around.  The good thing is that 90 second rounds means this old fart can still come out and play. 

Gatherings at the park again would be most excellent.   Happy Quatro de Mayo.

Glad to see Dog Brothers adding stun knife technology in their sparring. I new it would'nt take long !

I propose that we all submit any real fight footage to this thread and use it to experiance real life situations and better train and/or  prepare our selfes. Be it a gunfight,knife or edged weapons, improvised or other. I know I started this thread with a backyard brawl( not the real thing but very close) But I feel we can use that brawl as a guage for realism. What I am saying is try  to submit fights with at least or more intencity as the back yard nunchaku fight.  I think it would make a great tool for learning. Just a thought. Tom     http://images.google.com/images?q=videos+street+fights&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

Is anyone (or two) interested in fighting against single and double nunchaku.  If anyone showed real interest in this prospect, I may be inclined to consider comming out of retirement.  hee! hee!

It is a good idea to wear some kind of a tough glove when fighting against an opponent wearing a fencing mask. A tough glove,batting gloves, ski gloves and the like do not offer much if any protection against sticks impact, but it will protect your hand from being cheese grated by the fencing mask.  JMHO    Tom

Woof, ryungruhn.  It sounds like a cattle prod works well and is not as severe as some stun guns but still very effective.  I was thinking the lower voltage of a cattle prod may not be as effective through some clothing were as most stun guns claim to work through most clothing. I guess sparring with less or thinner clothing would remedy that possible problem. Q,  What voltage is your cattle prod. The stun gun I recomended delivers  5000, volts. P.S. Always wear eye protection.    Tom

I forgot to mention that this partcular stungun is charged an entire 5'' inches from the tip down toward the base so it is excelent for using slashing as well as thrusting techniques. I would also mention that a stun gun has different effects on the human body depending on the duration of contact. Quick contact will  not produce an actual KNOCK OUT in fact if you are hit it will make you very aware of that fact from the shock and possible temporary disorientation. If you want to use slashing techniques with this stun gun then padding the top  5''inches is not an option.

TBONE,   It has been a while since I have fought at a "DB" gathering but basicly (back then) knife fighting was used as a warm up exercise before a day of stickfighting, and although it  does attract some serious knife fighters the main focus was on stick, staff and other alike weapons. As to why we don't see much grappling with the knife probably is the nature of the weapon.(if you treat it with the respect it deserves). It would be easy to crash in and grapple with practice weapons but against a real knife is a different story. I like to get in and deliver my shot and get out as quick as possible without getting hit myself and would only grapple when absolutely necessary or if a great opportunity to dissarm presented itself. In a real knife fight I would utilize my inviorment. Chairs bricks sticks and the like can turn the tables of a knifefight or any fight for that matter.  As far as your question about scoring at a "DB" gathering, I don't think it is going to happen anytime in the near future. Read the rules(for lack of a better term) Soyoc Kali seems to be the prefered knife system among many of the dogbrothers but not the rule as there are none except "Be friends at the end of the day. I hope this answers some of your questions. P.S. I am not the most qualified person to answer these questions but took it upon myself to do so just in case no one else does. I do believe this info. to be accurate. ALSO: I work with a group that utilizes STUN GUN technology to add a little more consiquence to knife sparring. The long handle ones that resemble a short stick work best.  Take care,  Tom

Crafty,   I would have to agree. I also believe this to be a low risk group and the presence of the mask would tend to reduce blood spatter. I also have much faith in ring masters (you and others) abilities to sence danger in the ring and being a good safety net for the fighters. Also: Poor choice of words on my part. I think the word sparring does not qualify in describing this type of "FIGHTING". I stand corrected.  Sincerely your friend and follower.   Tom Stillman

The warrior spirit of the Dog Brothers tribe is alive and well !

I finaly found the answer to keeping it real when knife sparring. "STUN GUNS". They cause temporary paralisis but are otherwise harmless to a generally healthy person. I am associated with a group that uses this technique and it works well. Just think. Knife sparring with a knock out punch. Im sure this will be intriguing to many Knife Fighters and Dogs alike.  P.S.  Wear goggles and don't wear thick clothing.     Tom