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Hey Everyone!

            Since our training group is on the east coast we have less of a chance to be able to make it to the west coast for a Dog Brothers Gathering.  I am planning on getting out there this summer again to LA if my schedule allows it but the rest of our group will be stuck back in Pa.  I was wondering if any schools/groups would be interested in having a day of fighting up at our gym in Pa.  In all reality we can and are willing to travel anywhere in PA if need be to get some fighting in but we defintaly have the room to host the fights!  We are simply in need of some more interaction with people outside of our training group to help better ourselves both as fighters and martial artists.?

Let Me Know!

Gruhn

Does anyone have an idea of when certification began?  Not just for JKD but in general.  I was actually thinking about this the other day.  At some point, someone must have said ?ahh haa!  You need certification to teach ?my? style.  And obviously before that it must have been a free for all.  Was certification adopted from a certain area of the world?  Did Japan or Korea coin the idea for instance then others liked the idea and followed in their foot steps?  I strongly believe in application over certification but out of the respect of others I feel that if they insist on certification to teach their style it is a must; as with Si-Gung Lee.

Gruhn

Those crazy Dog Brother guys!  

Right before a fight, I think those are the words of choice I would like to hear.  Excellent way of putting things into perspective Crafty, excellent!

Gruhn

How was it broken before?  

Gruhn

Speaking of, what is the numbering system that you use?  Infact, what are the number systems for any of the groups for that matter, Crafty?  I know from the first set of videos instead of settins numbers to the strikes DBMA would rather call them forward hards, back hands and slashes and jabs.  My Sifu set an extremly specific numbering pattern that I think is very effective but I would love to observe some others.

Gruhn

I have seen people that are used to other arts go right into sparring.  I personally wanted to do it the first day I started and I think I could have.  In short, it all depends on the person.

Gruhn

What mag cover is the picture on?

I'll second that!  Hope everyone "makes a friend and/or learns somthing."


Gruhn

And I believe they are now called Operatic - - - http://operaticmusic.com/ I was in a band with what is now the lead guitar player.

Gruhn

There is a school in my area.  I linked to the school's website in my post.  (First paragraph.)

Thanks for the link though.  It didn't list any schools I could get to, it seems the one I linked to in my first post is the only one I can attend, and believe me, I have done a lot of looking.

Edit:  I'm sorry, I just realized I phrased my question improperly.  I know how to go about finding schools, I don't know how to tell good FMA schools apart from bad ones.  I have found a school, I want to know if it's good.  This is what I need help with.  Sorry for the confusion.  I'm pretty dumb/inarticulate.

Personally,
  I don't think anyone can say if a school is good or bad unless they have gone to it; and even then it is only their opinion!  As far as a set model of what a school should be I doubt you will ever find one.  No one system is the best, no one type of school is the best.  Check out that school and let us know what you think of it!  I think that would be the best next step!

Gruhn

I'll check it out!

Gruhn

Does DBMA have any age limits on stickfighting?

I am not positive of the answerand will leave that up to Crafty but of what age are you wondering about?

Gruhn

Quote from: So fresh and So clean

Howdy,
Guru Crafty, I know that you've stated that other than correspondence,  the two organizations have no ties, but I was wondering if any Black Eagle society members have participated at Dogbrother gatherings or if any Dogbrothers have participated at Black Eagle Society gatherings and what thier experiance was. Thanks! Simply curious..

Why not just say, if all the Dog Brothers had a big fight with the Black Eagle Society, who would win?

That's clearly what you REALLY wanted to ask    

Humm,
  I don't think that is what he meant.  I think the question was geared more towards if any different styles or techniques came out in the process of the gathering, but please correct me if I am wrong.


Gruhn

Thanks for the comments guest, I wish we knew who you were; it is a lot easier to say those kinds of things when no one can tell who is talking.  Crafty I think this is a good example of why we should possibly take the guest option off the public site.

Gruhn

Rafael, Noy, & Everyone Else,

Also of interest:

About the term "Kali"
The word "kali" did not come about until about 20 years or so ago and seems to have been coined somewhere, sometime by Filipinos living in the USA. I have personally conducted a search for the word "kali" amongst old people of the major tribes and, except for "kalis" which means sword and "kali" in Ilocano, which means "a hole in the ground"; there is no other word or cognate of "kali".

Ilustrisimo used "kali" on the insistence of Mr. Leo Gaje who had visited with Tatang and also by an American anthropologist specializing in hoplology (which is a study of handheld, non-missile weapons), who seemed to have picked it up from Dan Inosanto's book. When I joined Tatang, "Kali Ilustrisimo" had been registered for about two or three years. Tony Diego (the present head of the Ilustrisimo system) and I, after the research mentioned, decided that "Kalis" is the more appropriate word because it means "sword" and would then mean the "Sword of Ilustrisimo." The name has not been formally registered except on a website but we had decided on this even when Tatang was still active and alive.

Thoughts?

Peace,

David/Spad/TFS

Very interesting,
  I have also heard this but was not sure of the truth behind it.

Gruhn

Wow,
  That really makes me think about how much things are different where I live.  You would never read anything like that.  It's a shame, but the first thing I thought was what I am going to carry next time I go to NYC.


Gruhn

Dogzilla got a pair of mechanic gloves and said he would use them when we all fight in December.  They ar real thin with good grips.  Looks like  batting glove to me.  I'll ask him how he likes them and relay the message.
This will probably be my first fight and my hand is still broken so I'm gonna use something relatively protective for my first time.
I found a pair of sport work gloves at Home Depot.  They are all leather, but i just use them when I get real bad blisters.

Cool!
  Thanks Thai70!

Gruhn

Hey All,
  Anyone ever try out mechanic's gloves?  Very little protection but I would assume they would be very comfortable to grip sticks with.  I was thinking about getting some, any opinions?

http://www.toolking.com/shop/view.asp?ID=7688

Gruhn

Interesting,
  I do remember my Sifu telling us once that our numbering system was of spanish influence . . .

Gruhn

I have heard forms of these quotes from a horde of people:

?You either fight or you don?t fight?

This quote obviously insisting that there are no real styles of martial arts, they are all fighting.  I also like the analogy that style is an individual fixation on a personal level.  Style can be tight, weak, quick, smooth, loose, heavy, soft, hard, or any other description for that matter; but what it can?t be is one set thing.  For instance, you don?t hear people saying ?I study the ?Babe Ruth? form/style of baseball.?  People may study Babe Ruth?s attributes, but there is no such thing as a ?Babe Ruth? style of baseball.  In conclusion, you either fight or you don?t fight.


?As long we humans have two arms and two legs it will all be the same when it comes to fighting?


Gruhn

I broke the 4th metatarsel (sp?) close to the wrist, right at the nub.  The doc said it is doing great, but it is just not healed yet.  He checked it at 5 weeks from the injury and i have another appointment next which will make 7weeks from injury.
For rehab I bought a squeezy ball and have a produce rubberband.  I can't use my kettlebells yet, at least not the heavy one till I get more range of motion.
tom

Another great tool for recovery is a "gripmaster" used for guitar playing.  Here is a link: http://www.gripmaster.com.au/index1.htm

Gruhn

Aloha,

My name is Makena and I train with Dogzilla, here on O'ahu, Hawaii.  Just here reading and thought I would introduce myself.  I like the vibe.

Anyone who reads this and is in Hawaii, make a contact here if you want to come and scrap.

Aloha Kakou!

Welcome Makena!
  I'm in the states but I thought I would say hi!

Gruhn

Thanks for the update, I was wondering this morning of how it was going!  I wonder how the camp is going in LA too, anyone who went please give us some feedback on it!

Gruhn

Howdy,
What kinds of injuries have y'all gotten from either your training or from "real contact" stickfighting an' how long did it take to heal and what was your method of recovery? Also do you still feel the effects your injury(or injuries) today? Thanks, I'm interested about participated in a gathering but leery of some of the aftermaths, I'm sure you can relate.

Most notably hand injuries.  I have broken the bones on the top of the hand and both pinky fingers.  The top of the hand was from shots from my opponent and the pinky fingers were from going into clench with sticks.  I have yet to have any other serious injuries but I am sure others will share their battle wounds in the thread as time goes on.

Gruhn