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By the way,.. I've kind of known these guys, Conte and Patrick Arnold for years from the supplement world. Victor Conte makes ZMA and actually has some nice stuff on the market (legal). There is no magic however. Train hard, eat correctly, yadda, yadda.
--Tom
I'd like to extend my thanks as well on behalf of my father and I. As Crafty mentioned, it was great to see people fighting 5+ times on Sunday which I have a great amount of respect for. I personally have not worked myself up to such a task but hope the three day gathering will help me take the leap into fighting many times in one day. It was great to witness the transformation of the people who's cherries got popped and I hope to see them all again soon at the next gathering!
Woof!
Gruhn
At the Swiss Gathering shield & stick has been done. A goodly number of Euros play with WMA so this was very interesting to see. I think there is a thread in this forum about WMA.
CFRQuoteis there a lot that can be missed in FMA by primarily training only things which can be applied in sparring?
This hits on a real frustration of mine. Techniques are a recording system for movements. They can become so institutionalized that the context is lost (your hand must be placed in just this way ... WHY?) or they are so systemized that no useful muscle memory is being trained (5 different steps for 12 different disarms).
My answer to your question is, "Yes." I try and exercise patience when learning techniques that I initially don't think will work at full speed because I hope to find something in the movement to add to my tool box. I remember learning a disarm and thinking "This *&!@#@ move will never work," but then I started throwing an elbow into the guy's chest on my way in and the move worked beautifully.
Woof All:
I would like to mention that on page 66 of the Jan.'08 issue of "Tactical Knives" there is an article titled "Syderco's P'kal- Fist Full of Fight" which is about my friend Southnarc's reverse grip reverse edge Shivworks folder. Those of you familiiar with Southnarc's Clinch Pick and Disciple designs know that a lot of serious combative IQ goes into the design of these knives and when we were talking last week he expressed a lot of pride to me that this, his first folder, has been done right. We (DBIMA) are in conversation about carrying this knife.
TAC,
Crafty Dog
unless they changed the quality on how they make knives
The one thing I have noticed from the Sayoc Kali stuff on you tube is that it's very fancy..There seems to be alot of Choreographed knife techincs where the person who is getting cut just seems to go with it..
Which clip are you refering to? There's some "fancy" stuff on youtube because those clips were for the Combat Choreography demo reel, they are not instructional clips but for film.I have a problem here because in the chaos of battle ppl tend to slip or move away and not allow you to follow a predetermined set of patterned cuts. This is where I find the type of Kali that I take to be alittle more on the Cutting edge then this..We don't follow a pattern like that and have 6 strikes that move with the person durring the chaos.
Am I wrong here or is it just seem like that's what is being showed on the video's?
Yes, you're looking at it from a context that doesn't apply to Sayoc which is understandable if you've never trained in it.
The templates are not choreographed in the purpose you are describing it. What the Sayoc templates give you are optional lines of attack to vital targets. The drills give you a core pattern of flow, but after you train in them, you are no longer limited by the pattern. However, you retain WHY you do this slash versus a thrust and vice versa.
Imagine learning a jab, cross combo. That's a pattern.
Now add a left hook. That alters pattern.
After you learn how to box - those three strikes can make up numerous patterns once you have the coordination, concepts and body mechanics down.
What becomes important for a good boxer is WHY they are doing one move versus another.
Also, if the quantity of your "strikes" are "cutting edge" at the number 6, then would a system that gave you 3 "strikes" be even more cutting edge?
As per "chaos of battle", that's exactly why the Sayoc templates were created in the first place because the word "Chaos" to us means that one lacks a formula to solve a specific problem. To a JJ guy what they do is not chaos, but to an untrained eye it looks foreign. However, the JJ guy could be perfectly at ease in their realm.
Btw, since Sayoc is a Feeder- based system, the goal is not to move with the person, the goal is to make the person move with you.
If you have any more questions about Sayoc - please venture over to the sayoc.com site's public forum or better yet, give the guys at Intergrated a visit. It is much easier to grasp all this by actually training a little of it in person.
regards,
--Rafael--
Sayoc Kali
(Posted with written permission of Guro Crafty)
Thank you Guro Denny
Short notice, but here you go.
http://websterkajupit.blogspot.com/2007/08/kajupit-mma-seminar-bbq-29-sep-2007.html
KajuPit Mixed Martial Arts Seminar this weekend!
Note: This is not a seminar for "Sport" it is for "Street MMA" - No Rules fighting...
see link for details. Note: Special guest instructor will be DP GM Ted Sotelo
Haga??
Man if I lived in LA I would be all over that seminar like a hobo on a ham sandwich.
This old warrior celebrated birthday # 53 today by doing a kettlebells and Clubbells mix. Total of 45 exercise sets. This was day 166 in a row for me. If this old geezer can do it, so can you young bucks.
J/k I am lucky enough to make it down to a Japanese Food Market and pick it up..So I would look around there.
