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Ok. The reason I asked about the size of the stick is cause I have pretty thick fire hard rattan ones that are almost as hard as my Komegong ones..And I think they would break a bone and I don't want to break anyones bones. I have thinner ones that will sting and hurt but not break.

Ok. I found out how to do it. You have to fight at a gathering.  What kind of Rattan sticks do you need to show up with, because I know where I am at there are some rattan sticks that are harder and a tad bit more heavy that could seriously break a bone.

In other words. What equipment list do I need to buy..and what are the rules.

I am in wholehearted agreement that there is alot of bovine manure out there in the martial arts world, and very few teachers that can really walk the walk. However, i would  not be as quick to throw out ideas that have been passed down through the traditions we train just because you, or your teacher cannot make them work. You know that in the old days, this stuff really mattered and you gotta ask yourself why would a family or group pass down information that might get the next generation killed?  What was it there to train?
One of my teachers has a great story about when he was working in the mental health services and had to perform a takedown on a violent patient. As he is throwing and restraining the guy, he realises that he is doing a technique that HIS teacher had passed down to him as "part of our tradition but i don't know why, as it can't see it ever working".! As i remember it, he noticed that the foot placement, or the angle of entry was a little different from how he had learned it ,but that was all the adjustment that was needed to use the technique in real life. After this, his teacher changed the teaching manual to take his adjustments into consideration.
Sure, information can get watered down or distorted over the generations, but i think many concepts, like your example of trapping, are totally valid. The bigger questions for me would be, "why won't this work for me/my teacher"? , "what's missing"?, "how/when/why would this concept work"?
If a knife technique only works if the knife is held out front and frozen in space for a second, can i create that moment in my opponent and insert the technique by being in the right place at the right time? Perhaps, perhaps not, but it's worth investigating. 
My personal favourite is checking the knife hand. This will get your hand cut off 90% of the time, but you know, 10% of the time it is an absolute necessity, and can work very well IF you do it at the appropriate moment.
As for playing with people from other systems,my teacher Sonny Umpad (who by the way could walk the walk), said that the one that hits you is the one you don't see coming, so yes, cross train as much as possible, but at the same time, IMHO it's also good to spend some time looking at the ideas within the systems that you train seriously to see what might be useful.

Side note to CWS, and others. Thanks for aknowledging that i am indeed a "gal". For simplicity on the forum, without having to go into the whole him/her, he/she thing, i reckon i could be an honorary "guy" if thats ok with you...honestly i've been including myself in the "guys" group for years now...martial arts kinda does that, so i'm not taking offense here

I agree with what you are saying about "Being Passed Down" But I also belive that somethings like you mentioned take a key factor in a situation.
I can honestly say with out a single doubt that I am faster then my teacher..But I also think that if you get to use to the drills you wont be ready for the unseen.. I also belive that just somethings don't work for some ppl.

I would also like to touch on this for a second. Alot of schools teach ppl these killer moves but then they don't teach them the one thing a person needs to know in order to fight. They have had to have been a fighter already...I belive Martial Arts hone a person who already had fighting will and spirt..I see these ppl who train and train learn all these killer kali moves and then get beat down...If I had a school, I would teach two types of Classes.. Folks that already had the fighting spirt and the folks that are natural victims...I would teach the Fighters how to fight better and the Victims how to survive a attack...Cause I am sick of these guys taking these ppl and teaching them stuff and then sending them out into the world and they are getting their ass beat...Just some ppl can't fight no matter what you teach them..But you can teach them how to survive and get help.

Some ppl just have a advantage against others...One teacher I know talks about the Tunnel vision of a fight and how hard it is to hit someone..I told him..I don't have that problem..Never had it..He said are you serious..I said "Serious as a damn heart attack" I don't get tunnel vision and its not hard for me to hit that "Trigger" to punch someone in the face..When I was a kid..The fights always started with trash talk..And my adenalen would get the best of me and I would shake and try to talk trash back and it came out stupid..Like they would say " F@!k you B1tCh" and I would say something like..YA..YOUR MY HAM ASS" And then ppl would laugh at me ( this is a honest story) So I got tired of saying stupid things..So instead of talk, I would just punch the person in the face..As time went on..I think I trained that "Fear of the Trigger" out of me..and the tunnel vision..So I stay cool, Calm and can see and think right in a fight..This teacher said..That is a SUPER advantage over ppl and I told him There are ALOT of ppl out there who can do it and have the fighting spirt..TO MY LONG POINT ...Just knowing that..If I knew nothing else..And a person taught someone all these killer moves but the person had no Heart, No couurage and No experiance and Panic durring a fight..I don't care what they are taught...They are going down...No Trapping is going to save them from the harse reality of being punch in the face several times by someone who is not afraid to fight.

I know my sentence structure is terrible so please guys...forgive me...

I see some of his points on somethings but not the way he put it together. No style of fighting is the End all be all.
I have been doing Kali/Silat and I think its the greatest thing..But I also practice Western Longsword from hugh Knight ( he is from a School called 'Die Schlachtschule")  who is the leading voice next to Arma for the Old School ways with the Longsword. We study the German Text Manuels for Longsword combat and I have to admit..I went against one of my friends who is out of the Kali Academies...He used Stick fighting and I used german Longsword using a Wooden Waster that is built for training and I beat the tar out of him...I would use foot work of sliding back while holding him at bay with the sword and then shoot his legs (hit them) and or his sides..When he would rush me..I would mention on his way in that not only did I stab him but hit him across the arms...Now come on folks..You get hit across the arms with a Hand a half you are losing your arm and to get stabed though the gut...The game is close to over.

The misconception is that a Hand and a half weighed a ungodly weight..It weighted in at about 2lbs..So the Old Warriors of Europe could move these things around with Ease..Alot of ppl think Hollywood has Western SwordFighting down..but they dont. There is no Clashing of steel blades in WMA..Its a very clean art where one person makes a move and the other kills him..For every mistake there is a end.

The style of fighting is yes the Way the old knights of Europe fought and is from the writtings of Johannes Liechtenauer called the fechtbücher, a 14th-century German sword master whose teachings became the basis for most German medieval martial arts.

Some of the cuts, Strikes and blocks look like ShinKendo...And when I asked why this looked almost like Japanese sword fighting..My teacher responded 'There are only some many ways a sword can be swung to kill someone..And a good idea with a sword can travel thousands of Miles with out either of the ppl ever meeting each other.

As for The Spainards being more skilled at fighting then someone else? There is always someone out their better then you with what ever you are using..I have been learning Longsword for several years and can beat most of my friends that know Shinkendo or Kenjutsu and Japanese sword fighting is sopposed to be the end all be all or swordfighting and it's far from it.

I can also beat the same ppl using Kali... when they are using a sword

Now mind you..These guys are not hasbeens with this style of swordfighting..They have done it for years on end.

But lets be real..The Spainards had alot of advantages. They yes were in a time of great warring and had fought several types of differnet enemy...They had AWESOME steel weapons..Armour, Crossbows, Guns, Ships, Horses and Tactics.. I would have to say that the Filipino ppl did pretty well for themselves using cheap bladed weapons,  Iron wood Sticks, Hands  and Knives and they kept their culture while the Aztec ppl lost all of theirs, Were bred out and assimilated into Mexicans.

Damn..I take 37 reads as nobody knows?  lol!

lol..I ment his private lessons.      I am actually moving out to Redlands in about a month..Then, I will only live 20 mins from him. HA!

Well..I got to find a way there!  It's just the timing and traffic that is gonna kill me..I started Training at Guru Buds Kali School but I want to get some training in with Lester!
I wish I could fly hahaah

I finally was able to talk to him last night..But as it turns out he is like a hour and 10 mins away from me..WOW!!!

I left him a message..Should I try to call back or do they get back to you in time?

I started down at Guru Bud Thompsons but hemet is a closer drive and I would love to go up there and train every now and then.

That's what I am trying to do..I just saw from that link that someone is up in hemet and that's not to far from me.

I called and left him a message..I hope he gives me a call back!

It was griffen martial arts.

I am up in the San Bernadino , California Area if anyone is interested in Training. Please hit me up!!

Hey all..New guy here..Gonna be started At Bud Thompsons Kali school soon and also have alittle informal Escrima Training..Krav Maga Training and Ex Military guy.

Just thought , I would put up a greetings.