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prentice: great points. jon jones is an incredible talent, he's going to be hard to beat anywhere during a fight. it will be fun to see if anyone can solve his riddle.

Selamat!

awesome post. i look forward to reading more. Can I ask what work you are doing in Surabaya? (I *almost* moved there like 3 years ago)

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The video of the Euro Gathering on the main page is AWESOME 

Great fights, great heart, great techniques. Guro Lonely is a beast. All the fighter's looked terrific. I loved the double stick stuff and watching fighters close the distance. The three section staff was very cool. The space look great (and the floor looked hard). Having Red Sonja (both woamn fighters moved very well) fighting was pretty cool too. The fencing at the end was beautiful to watch.
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Haven't watched the Game of Thrones yet, but I enjoyed the books (and waiting for book 5 later this month)

They have ben airing the second season of Top Shot on the history or discovery channel over here. I'm not really a gun guy but i like some of the shooting/marksmanship challenges they have

I'll add that in most martial arts, the fighting does not resemble the training,

response to Gints:

Well, I wouldn't group DBMA with most martial arts either but I think for a few guys the fighting resembles the training. I remember watching Guro Lonely Dog (who is an exceptional fighter, but not the exception) control the range of the fights he was in quite well, choosing when to close, and imposing his game/strategy on others. No doubt the training is on specific skills like crashing appropriately,etc. but it's amazing that in the full speed, adrenalized chaos of a fight he (and others) pull them out consistently. I would hazard a guess that in the lead up to a Gatheirng they practice several drills at full speed to develop timing and comfort in the adrenal state, but a lot of skills, such as coordination, moving feet and sticks together in concert take time to develop and most likely require development at slower speeds of training with cooperative opponents. Training for fighting and other skill development occur jointly.

Arts where constant testing are applied need to go at two speeds also. Boxers add pad work, bag work, footwork, and other drills as well since you can't afford to have someone trying to punch your head all the time. There's a learning speed and a fighting speed. Teaching people to differentiate between their conditioning/training/learning speed and fighting speed is important, I think the first time I competed in martial arts I was amazed at how fast things seemed to move (adrenal state), though learning at slower speeds helped me identify what my opponent was trying to do.

Practicing BJJ at different speeds, whether 1/2 speed or full speed, seems to make no difference when going against a blackbelt (for me). Whether I'm fatigued or not they are able to contol the game and impose many varied techniques against me, even when I know what they are trying to do and how to counter it. Through balance, control, understanding, and years of training they move between different ground positions (ranges?),and while a choke is a choke there seemed to be many variations top guys employ to get that extra bite, just like i can think of several kinds of jabs, I can think of several rear naked choke variations, the more you have in your repertoire the better prepared you are.

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Really can't add anything more to what Guro Crafty said. it's well worth the re - read (and another).
I think training in transitioning between the ranges has helped me quite a bit. Within the transition to the clinch or out of the clinch, the clinch to the ground, or the ground back to the feet lots of little things, adjustments, head position, stick position, etc make a difference. Although I feel some ranges come and go quite quickly, that space between corto and clinch, out of the clinch, and clinch to ground requires solid time training in the ranges to understand their possibilities. There's a need to understand the 'traditional' ranges, the fighting ranges,  plus transitions between ranges which reflects Guro Crafty's comments on composure in his final paragraph.

All of this is viewed in the light of, once you step up, your personal safety is not ( and should not be) a concern of your adversary.  Your own safety must be your concern.  Footwork will do a lot, I agree; but at the end of the match, one of the combatants must go down.  My question is more along the lines of how this is done so that everyone can walk away from it massive medical expenses.

A few things

Actually, part of the code is that my adversary's personal safety IS my concern. The aim is to test yourself and to be friends at the end of the day. people who partake in the gathering understand this. No one "must go down." That thinking isn't really part of it. It isn't a street fight. The goal isn't to break somebody, but to support each other's development as martial artists.

Yes, it is dangerous, but in 20 plus years, there have been hundreds of fighters, and THOUSANDS of fights with few serious injuries. the DB safety record is pretty strong.

And actually the day after the Gathering I'm usually up and out early with lots of energy instead of in bed, it feels great.

Guro - 6! i stand corrected, my memory fades! there was a lot going on that day  I do remember the speech though 
Just to echo what Guro mentioned, the attacking blocks and snaggletooth material really provided a foundation for protecting my IQ during fights. great stuff (and fun drills)

Hi dan,

  I love internet magic - I'm in Thailand! Feel free to email me with any questions at: brian.jungwi@gmail.com

in short though, it's pretty safe/quiet here now (but not in the south), and most protests take place in certain areas of the city (and probably won't really pick up until April) and are easily avoided. the tourism infrastructure here is top notch, and seeing fights, going to meditation, practicing yoga are all easily accessible. it's pretty safe for tourists (i think the biggest dangers for tourists now is themselves - drinking and riding motorcycles is pretty common on the islands it seems)

Best,
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congrats and good luck!

So when the opponents stick is coming in at an angle toward my neck, I'm blocking it with my front stick, however the stick that is up in the ready position somtimes gets hit which makes it bounce back toward my head. 

With double swords/sticks in KK I do not usually cross block. When he attacks with his right hand i block with my left, when he attacks with his left I block with my right switching my stance/lead foot as i step backward

If you are trying to meet all blocks with your lead hand while shuffling back, keeping the same lead forward, I would lower the high chamber of your non blocking hand, and bring that hand lower towards my waist still ready to thrust if need be (or cycle back to strike if needed). try to keep your hand in the starting stance/shell position instead of always in a chamber to strike when defending.
There are positions for your hands when moving forward in the traditional movements that hold the hands in a high chamber for striking while moving forward, and the positions of your hands/swords/sticks are different when moving backwards.

And yes, KK has a lot of met the force energy, so when in doubt, more power in your blocks (without over extending)

A friend sent me this clip of a korean film. it's pretty violent, but there are two nice action sequences. starting at around 5 min and then at 11 min. knife vs multiple attackers and knife vs kerambit. lot of intensity.

http://www.wat.tv/video/themanfromnowhere-39aml_39ak3_.html

There's a good group in the Bay Area. Contact Gints, he posts on these forums under the name Sting.

old article on the group

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2006-05-29-fight-club_x.htm

Congrats Guro Crafty! great exposure, hopefully it will attract more people to the DBs.

As far as privacy - We come to the Gathering to test ourselves, everything else, in the end, is just noise. I understand the fear of being on the wrong side of someone's highlight reel, but try and to remember the reasons you were attracted to the Gathering in the first place.

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Rashad really utilized good footwork to lunge into range, land strikes, and then jump out. Other times he used his strikes to close distance and push Rampage against the cage. His striking looked good against Rampage, but I think Lyoto would've knocked him out again if they were fighting last night (though there's different strokes for different folks).

One thing Rashad does is let his hands way down (although being loose is a good thing) and sway about in what almost looks like a small Capoeira step.

I just saw the fight this morning and as a person whose had knee surgery I was pretty disgusted by it. That is easily a career ending submission and could significantly inhibit the fighter's quality of life, ability to generate an income, etc. He tapped, and considering that Palhares is extremely experienced, he should have let go. He knew exactly what he was doing, and his excuse is pretty lame.

There is brief footage in a promo video of Lyoto using a cone drill to develop his footwork. good stuff.

I remember watching the fights at the Return to Ramblas a few years ago, I was actually amazed at the amount of ground some of the fights covered while fighters were in engagementwith each other. It was much different than fighting in the RAW gym.

There was a highlight video of one of the Gatherings on the member's site awhile ago (forgot to renew, working on it) showing fights in a fairly small space. Not sure if it was stick or knife, but you can see some great footwork as one fighter moves around repeatedly to avoid being cornered by a larger fighter.

Guide Dog fighting against mai sowks? damn that takes some balls. 

great promo video on youtube 

Sometimes we hit a slump, I'm currently stuck in the rhythm of the seasons - winter is for resting. Although I'm still going to the gym too, sometimes a small break from your training is a good thing. You don't need to feel guilty or force it, the desire will come back on its own. This past week I've been re - watching my DB DVDS and some other FMA instructionals giving me some food for thought and ideas for training/drills/stick work/etc. When I'm ready to start regular training again I'll be on GO.

Another consideration is to make your martial arts training a part of your daily routine. Until a few weeks ago, I would just play with the sticks for 20 min a day. It's kind of like my meditation. Sometimes it's serious, but mostly it's just playing around to relax. No need to be pumped up, just sort of chill. Even with the heavy bag, just turn some relaxing music on and play at different striking combinations. It'll help ease your return to more intensive training.

GREAT VIDEO.

looks like lots of off lead fighting...

Pappy and Poi look sharp (they still scare me), all of the fights looked pretty vicious, it's good motivation to keep training and get better 

and great cuts by Linda (My sister trains so I sent the link to her so that she can be suitably inspired)

good to see War Dog fighting also!

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Great news!

I was lucky enough to study with Guro Crafty at the Inosanto Academy for awhile and I remember learning the bolo game. It's a great tool to have in your toolbox, i look forward to the DVD and seeing some of the generators/training techniques being used.

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Happy Birthday Guro Crafty!
thank you for all that you have given me over the years

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brian

Congratulations!

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If I'm recovered from knee surgery I'd love to make it out. Last years April Gathering had a tremendous amount of heart and skill. I don't want to fill out a dance card without a guarantee of being there, but if I make it, I'd love to have a good fight with Red Dog and Frankfurter 

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there was/is a thread on SCA buried somewhere on this forum. A few dog bros. have done it and had good things to say about it.

i think there are a couple of pack members around San Diego. If you are willing to make the drive up to LA on saturdays, the DBMA class at the Inosanto Academy is well worth the trip.