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both Randy Couture and Gokor have been on the greatest show of all time, The Unit.

I agree, the UNIT is definately up there in my top shows of all time.


Rio or anyone have you seen Johnnie To's "THROW DOWN"(2004)?
i've been trying to get this judo movie forever, heard it was pretty cheesy, but still wanted to see it. It's region3.

http://www.lovehkfilm.com/reviews/throwdown.htm

I like the guys books, funny entertaining reads.
Take everything you read with a grain of salt.

Two favorites i am reminded of are
woofing
apeshate

What are draws and dry fire??

I worked out last night for 20mins at my home gym and I actually felt alot better

Draw weapon(knife or pistol) from cover
Dry fire- bring empty weapon to bear, aim, click.

Fist of Legend is awesome!

I always liked the scenes from the Lone Wolf and Cub series.

I have the set, did i ever let you borrow it?

loyallonehk- you did great, i enjoyed your knife fight.

Yes, thank you very much Maia and Eddy. Wish we could've had more training time together.

Last year I worked a stabbing that took place after a bar fight involving multiple subjects.

The bar fight itself did not involve any weapons, but did involve several people. The actual stabbing took place after the fight while one of the participants was walking away from the bar.  He was about two blocks away, when one of his opponents in the bar fight, who shadowed him after he left the bar, snuck up behind him and stabbed him in the right upper torso, penetrating his liver, diaphraghm, and puncturing his lung.

The suspect said something to the victim as he was doing this, and the victim reached over, pulled the knife out (the suspect still had ahold of it) and then took off running without ever even looking back at his assailant.

He ran approximately 100 yards, and up a flight of stairs to an apartment building, where he collapsed from internal bleeding.  When I got there less than 5 minutes later, he was nearly bled out and was death white.  I had his buddies lift his legs, because it was obvious his blood pressure was falling, and we needed to get his blood pressure up somehow.

The ambulance arrived, pushed fluids once they got a vein (they had nearly collapsed) and got him in to emergency surgery.  He survived and was released from the hospital less than week later......though another two or three minutes in that hallway and he'd have been dead.

The moral of the story.......don't get so drunk you aren't aware of your surroundings or if someone is sneaking up on you from behind.

lay bad side lung down.

On a differing note, how about doing the electric knives with subdued light?
not sure if this is ok with vid production and photos, but it sure would be fun.

Anyone have an idea of the 3 closest hospitals.? Also there levels and reputations.
A google map would be very useful for all.

Crafty- excellent post on the sphinx and your results. Thanks for that tidbit. Very useful. anymore? knee stuff? upperback?
Anyone read any books with regards to the physiological results of each pose? i have seen book in the mega bookstores but the title slips me.

My gf used to be really into hot yoga doing the Bikram version. I thought it was useful and had a purpose for longevity and range of motion. I doubted the reports of increased muscle 'strength'(relative). I see flexibility and longevity as part of a continuum of training including strength/flexibility/endurance/speed/power and a bunch of other facets.

I am getting part of my flexibility work in post workout in a sauna, this seems to help. Before my weight workouts i get in 3-5minutes to break a light sweat with the juices flowing. Do a few dynamic stretches and jump start the mind. I then get a little cardio going for another 3-5minutes with a little more specific work. Then i proceed with my weights and follow with a few rounds in the sauna. Sonnon and Pavel have some intresting views on warmups and cooldowns that i find worth mentioning. I also think finishing with the 'hot box' has a lasting effect with regards to metabolic conditioning and fat loss. It sure conditions one to lose water. Though i am wary of the sanitation of some saunas. uck.

 

Andy why did you fight that fight?

omg i can't believe he fought like that. I was yelling at the tv, he is such a phenomonal grappler... why did he want to kickbox?
I concur that he did not have any basis for fighting an unmatched lead, if i recall correctly didn't this happen a few fights ago in TUF5 as well?(episode2) the fighter had no concepts of fighting a different lead.

The guy had so much reach advantage, yet he wanted to kickbox and throw a looping overhand. You don't throw overhands on southpaws in general, you pump that straight right down the pipe. And if you're doing DBMA you got the outside diamond.
The single pick was right there especially in unmatched lead, you're such a good grappler Andy why did you do that? You're not a striker per se. The guy dissected him with basic kickboxing and reach. The one time i think a single attempt was made he ate a knee, but you gotta commit, eat it and grab it. Saddly that was your shot into the big boys.

http://www.crossfit.com/journal/library/51-2006_ParkourCompendium.pdf

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/parkour1.htm

http://sports.expertvillage.com/videos/parkour-wall-running.htm
this one has other how tos on the bottom

There was also a video on a childrens program that i thought was awesome. I think it is a great start in body awareness for youth and body coordination, a variation on gymnastics. A little more functional than learning a rountine on the rings or parralell bars.

Borderline OT but in relation to group psychology, when playing volleyball today and in the past and there are more teamates on my side with a ball headed my way i am less likely to hustle to get it unsure if the guy right next to me is going to get it. I could easilly get many of those shots, but with the guy right next to me the drive to get it is somewhat less - part of it is i am trying to avoid a collision, part is i think the other guy is getting it.

This video was atrocious.

In my state this would have easilly been a clean case of self defense by the female if she used lethal force, and a good chance a bystandard as well. Means, oppurtunity, intent were all there to seriouslly injure or kill. 

We've seen males ruff up females, generally domestic issues... but this case was an all out Attack-  not a simple argument or slap. After viewing this and contemplating it i have come to the reality that if i do see something similar, a serious attack on a female worker i will have to act. What i would do in the case i am not sure as it will depend on the scenario - possibly throw beer in his face to break his ooda loop, aor take a stool to his leg, aor something more serious to get him to stop the threat.

Possible reasons the witnesses did nothing is that it seemed to overide their ooda loop- sudden and extreme overwhelming violence. The same principles many criminal elements use to immobilize(freeze) victims during crimes such as robbery take overs, home invasions, etc.
Another possible reason could be more blatant as cowardice.

Some other thoughts on this maybe the ramping up most individuals need to come to violence. Few sane and productive citizens can go from 0-100mph at the drop of a pin. The ability to do so borders as sociopathic.
 
comments welcome.

I'm sure he has a doctors rx, they're not hard to get... especially for Rocky. If he doesn't have one he's an idiot as Hollywood hands those out left and right. Life extension programs. gh and test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGgfGA_vzIk

Very interesting thread.
One i contemplate daily.

Zuffa definately has turned his pet project(ufc) into a multimillion dollar scheme. Fortunately i didn't have to pay for this one, the last one, or the next one. 

Fights-
I was dissapointed in the last 5 fights. Mostly cause i wanted to see Silva and Crocop do what they do best... mt and ktfo their opponents with mt.
The footwork was the norm, i remember nothing extraordinary.
Rampage appeared slightly off his game initially, but took control in the latter part. If i remember correctly the hockey punch did his opponent in. Great streetfight move, lots of options- plum, greco, snap, etc...
On replay the Huerta-Halverson fight looked like the Hurricane caught a knee/shin across the neck...carotid ko.
Crocop - he looked like a monster as always, devastating power, i was hoping for a lhk stand up ko.
Silva- his opponent was open for that flying knee, timing was slightly off so he got put off balance. Excellent ground defense, and ability to regain his feet. On the triangle, anyone know why he didn't try for various subs-choke,arm,shoulder? or finish that choke by swiveling his hips? I am clueless about bjj.

i hate when this happens... i'm at work and someone asked to use my cpu, so i open the browser for them, but they end up deleting my partial response to this thread. lol.


i'll try to summarize...

at first glance this video clips look like a JOKE multiples abusing BOB. but if you delve into  it you see what they are doing and it becomes pretty apparent they are training as a unit to take individuals out.

ok on to the topic
How do you fight multiples?

first let us consider the mindset of a pack - What motivates them? What do they Fear? What is the hierarchy? etc...


second What is a "WIN" against multiples? do you need to neutralize every single one? how motivated are they? are they of altered mental status? hadjis looking for their salvation? strung up on ice? revenge(may be the worst)? are they ready to die horribly? is it random gang initition? etc...
or do you need to just forcefully suggest they step back and opt for a tactical advance- Backwards?


To fight multiples i have come to several theories
1. force escalation - weapon employment, maximum force with maximum carnage, mindset to do what may be Ugly, pre-mept strike
2. training - one should train with multiple realistic opponents in dynamic situations, one must be willing to accept his own mortality yet not take his life carelessly... how does one harness the maximum use of the mind so that the body does not fear pain or death? gpp is often a key role... discipline the body and mind becomes a sharp weapon, slack on your gpp and your mind could suffer.

there are several subcategories-
geography and environment
postioning of oppoents and yourself/loved ones

here is some clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx67-09iaD4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7z5hpgbbR8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufSJ6FMYvUQ

Will you always dominate and WIN? maybe, maybe not. but what you can do is optimize your Odds.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2XX6rxS8yI



molon labe

I saw little footwork in most of the fights tonight.  The most footwork I saw was with Tony DeSouza Vs. Thiago Alves with Thiago having some sound skills.  I question the "let's stand here and trade blows" mentality we saw for most of the night.  Check was the only one I saw who was feinting and trying to bait Tito with his footwork.

Thoughts?

Gruhn

I second this to a point, footwork is definately underated, but it is often hard to see and interpret. a person may actually not be appearing to use it cause he has a good idea on range and evasion whether that is head movement or footwork.  Many more people are foot aware as things like ladder drills and plyometrics are so mainstream, but the link from the drill to the fight may not transfer over.

on the last UFC- Chuck had a nice display of footwork, effectivelly zoning, and keeping it in standing range when most would have cut the ring which inadvertanly would cause a clinch, he circled really well, i never liked his hand position and feel if he fought the same game with a CROCOP(different weight class) type, he would be in danger from the neck kick cause of low hands and the thigh kick cause of low base. Due to his attributes he is able to get away with the hand position up to this point. 
Desouza had terrible footwork... especially for a southpaw constantly stepping into the right. Rich Franklin ate TRIG101/diamond. ouch.

i do see what you are saying Ryan. i think a lot of it has to with the the clinch, and danger of getting a single-pick.
what we do end up seeing are pieces... just as the sawtooth in it's drill form would not be transferred exactly over to be used combativelly, what we see are pieces of it. I do feel that practitioners of weapons seem to have more footwork awareness and in many cases training drills for combat. DBMA does have great footwork stuff that i feel can move into mma stuff and drills. i was actually trying to work on an mma type sawtooth. if anyone's got ideas i'd love to hear it.


on a side note i just showed my good friend TRIG101 who has been training mma and various ma for 10plus years and he was impressed enough to put it in his game. This friend lives in LV so is around and trains with guys who are in the ufc or coach fighters in the ufc.... it seems many may not be aware of such techniques.  I tried to explain some other weapons concepts that i could interpret into mma with him, but i think i lost him there.  I was trying to explain the Illustrimo crosstep, to defend a leg kick, or a single... he politely acknowledged it could work.  I also covered a gunting, but i think he interpretted it only exactly how i showed it, not conceptually in that destroy his limb to pass. On that i also mentioned wrist control, instead of taking the arm drag or duck under combo, go for the bicep smash, then do something like a russian belly swipe to pass his arm and you have his back or atleast half a man. Another tactic i was speculating over on limb destruction would be if you're up and he's down doing open guard, instead of a toreando(sp?) walk around pass, while you have one ankle smash that lower limb with a horizontal type elbow hitting either his ankle or calf/bone(of course depending on rules).

hope to hear responses on footwork as well as using more weapons based theories in mma or unarmed self defense.

Good luck to all fighters, have fun.

Whew a machete?? I for one would definitely go with the machete. 

If you went with the knife what grip would you use, standard or reverse?

Yup i definately was wondering on grip and lead, rear hand or lead hand in bot the machete and bat scenario... 
I keep a machete handy in my truck for foilage and random yardwork. There are various types of machetes, cold steel produces several and i actually was going to buy another one this past week, but the lot was bought up by an arborist. For light brush when working fires and yard work i prefer about 20-22" with a weighted tip, either tear drop shaped like a bolo or a cane knife type with a hook on the reverse for catching debris. Remember to wipe the blades clean after use and apply light oil.
http://www.coldsteel.com/machetes.html


machetes reminds me of MS13
http://www.apfn.org/APFN/MS-13.HTM

I personally would choose Ray Floro

me2 we should stand behind him and tactilly cover his back

the tournament was a good expereince. the host GM Tyronne Tadashi put a lot of work and effort in and it showed, thank you. He was resourceful and though no one else had electrical power for 5 - 30hours brought in generators as the show must go on.

special thanks to Dogzilla, thaiTom, Robert808 along with the other bros. Dogzilla thanks for giving me the tools to put it together. Also all of the DBMA dvds i got from DB came in handy. i used a piece of each, and my own spin on one or two. 
I highly recommend all of them, my favorites are Footwork(series1), Cycle drills and Los triques. the terms scrambled eggs, smash the bug, and yanking the chain are classic.

now that's enough of those rules smules. there was a rule for everything- omg.  felt like kindegarden.


on the earthquake, everything was fine for me, be sure you guys got your bug out gear-never no when people are deprived of the necessities they get crazy as in Katrina or LA.

Very nice all around.

I laughed at the teste check on the dude and then the dog dominantly turned his back and acted asleep. really funny.

I also liked the corrective escalating force starting very low in response to negative behavior, sometimes a kind gentle reminder is needed, and sometimes it needs more.just like kids and your subordinates.
The mention of the hip check reminds me that dominant dogs or people will try to occupy the space you're in, so for the non dog people that dog that always trys to lean on you is trying to dominate you in his mind.