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Woof Dean, I'am very glad you finally have gotten the oppertunity to fight in a gathering. I know from the members site that this is something you've been looking to do for some time now.
Your post gathering comments are very insightful and well thought out, I have appreciated reading them very much.
It also comes across quite obviously that the gathering experience has worked its magic on you. Its done that to all of us.
You translate it very well, yet I can't help but think those who read this and have never been there, really don't understand.
I totally agree if someone has the oppertunity to participate in a gathering the should take full advantage.

Having said all that, I have found personally the biggest challenge for me is stepping out there again, after being dinged up.
In my last two gatheirngs, my first fights in both I got smacked around pretty good........esp in last Junes gathering....I found myself going into my second fight,looking forward to the end of the fight and trying to get out there get it done and not get hurt.
I feel this is a HUGE mistake.....I did not fight well at all.
Anyway.....I also felt as though there was a growth......I have always felt growth comes when you don't do so well...in my opinion thats when you learn.
Long story short.......My resolve in future gathering fights is to fight with total agression and as if it is my last. Of course, I do not mean to fight in a way to be out of control or to intentionally hurt anyone.
But to FULLY operate in the high adrenal state.
Keep posting bro. I enjoy your writings!
                                                           Dog SB/TG
P.S. GO NAVY

Woof: 

Maxx/Oh man......   This is what I was waiting for!   

MIA......Anyone seen Maxx?

       

When In Sparta do as the Spartans ........Or was that Rome?
AW Heck!!       man up!!

Howl!!! , Sting, congrats!!! Thats awesome! I will pass the good news on to my wife. She really enjoyed sitting with your wife and sheepdogs wife at the June gathering.....Helped my cause too
I'am planning to be there this June,so hope to see you, your wife and the newest member of the Kilmanis clan!! Again congrats to you and your wife.....a treasure has been bestowed upon you.

Foxmarten....One by one they will come. Not sure why you need 50 fights....but if you  have a chance to experience a gathering and fight in it......do it.
Its a oppertunity and a privledge.....and will change you, in one way or another.

I live in Ohio and can onley make it once a year so we choose June.......but my wife and I are constantly talking about moving to Calif.  A big part of that is Dog Brothers......at least for me it is.
By the way......I'am 47 if that puts how strongly I feel about it, into perspective.

                                                     Dog SB/TG

Woof C-DP, Awesome! Congrats on the milestone! I know you've been riding for a while now, and I'am trying to blockout an image.
Tell me you're not wearing the biker spandex attire?
Just kidding of course!! Your awesome bro!!
Keep up the good work!
                                             TG/ SB

Woof Maxx, Glad your setting your sights high.........A wise man on the members site recently said this....
" I will under promise and over achieve."
Maybe it will speak to you.
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Maxx Cool.....Nice to see you found a place to train. With skin missing from your hand and brusing all over...sounds like your getting into some pretty hardcore sparring....So what are you using to protect your head?
Anyway....I'am not telling you to buy from anyone....BUT...From Dog Brothers Inc. and Bloodsport.com You can count on getting good quality, and you will be buying from people who are In the KALI business....and know what products work well.....Both also stand behind their gear.
There were definetly some diffrences between the mask I bought from Bloodpsort and the one I bought from fencing.net.....paying a little extra for good quality is worth it in the long run....saves you from buying twice.
Just my opinon.......
                                                             Dog SB/TG

Woof DP-D, Brings a tear to my eye .......Love that your going old school with the 100lb. plates!!
Looks also as though you've leaned out some? Tell the truth.
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Woof, Since there are rules in the UFC, I would purpose that they add a "stalling" rule, with a point deduction for excessive or persistent stalling, much like they do in wrestliing.
The reason being and the example I will give is.........On several occassions Hermes Franca "turtled up" and baiscly did nothing, except hide and cover and rest.
We also see as we also saw with Hermes stalling from the guard or at the very least, extreme inactivity. This puts the burden on the top guy to work, which I think Sean Sherk did very well, but does make for a fairly boring fight.

I think the bottom guy should have to work to improve his position, or risk losing a point, and not merly hold on.
In a different vien not really relative to the Hf vs. SS FIGHT......some guys will purposley stall with the knowledge that if nothings happening on the ground then the fighters will be stood back up....which in a lot of times is what the bottom guy wants....... merly covering up is not fighting.....If it were a stand up fight like boxing leaning on the ropes covered up would not be allowed,..... Just my opinion........
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Woof Maxx, We all pretty much use fire hardend rattan......Nice of you to care about not breaking bones though !
Remember the rule......"onley you are responsible for you"
I would suggest you watch a gathering before entering one....
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Woof, The post gathering BUZZ continues.
Echoing SB Mig In thanks to PK Guro Crafty,and the Elders...also OP/NG FOR puttting up a nice setting and filming us for the show.
It was great to see friends again and the new ones made. The sense of family one gets from the gathering can not be explained but onley experienced it truley is "tribe".
I fulley encourage anyone who is or has considered doing this to come and experience it for yourself....its the onely way to get a full understanding of what we do and why.
My wife/ boss was impressed with the quality of fighters and fights......Her comments were "I don't know where all these fighters came from, but there were some good fighters there today"
Shes a filipino and a tough critic so if you fought take pride.
Looking forward to the next one and the continual growth that comes from each one.
Guro Crafty, this is a special thing and thank you for your vision, and what it does for those of us who desire to "walk as a warrior for all your days"
Much thanks!
                                                                                            Dog Tom/SB

Baltic Dog, Like wise, look forward to seeing you as well!! Milt said earlier that he probably wouldn't make it, does what your saying mean Rog won't make it either?
I will miss seeing them both, If be the case.
In a some what different vein concerning the photos.......I know that Guro Crafty has rights to all the fight photos ect. However I

First off, The guy posting his complaints about flash has never fought in a gathering. As a previous fighter at raw, I have personally never been bothered by the flash.....lucky maybe, I don't know my attention seems to have been more directed on the stick buzzzing by my head .
Sting is right any action pics we have tried to take there have for the most part come out blurry, and weve got a decent digital camera......certainly no top of the line Nikon.
Like I said, I just want to be able to get my camera in so I can get some shots of the guys after the gathering. I don't want to be excluded from this because my cameras not good enough .
I don't really care if they have a no photos during the fights rule.....though like I said the flashes never bothered my before.....then thats just me.
Maybe someone whom has been bothered by flash could list a complaint?
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Hey Maxx, I live in a small Ohio town, and got nothing like Surf dog or Crafty Dog to train with. I onley wish I had the oppertunity you have.
Theres a old saying........"where theres a will theres a way" If you want to I think you could make it happen. Good luck.
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Woof Corey, Thats cause your just a mean SOB ......Just kidding. Though you are right.  I kinda like the idea of the pad boys keeping the fight on the mat.....but either way I'am good with it.
I'am really glad there won't be a wall.
I think the spectators surrounding the mat will really juice the atmosphere...kinda like a pit, or as Tom said a school yard brawl.
Its gonna ROCK fer sure
                                                               Dog Tom/SB

Woof, I have that shoe. Its a baisic wrestling shoe. Nothin special. but a wrestling shoe is nothing special anyway,it will get the job done for you and the price seems right. Not likley you can find anything less expensive.
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Danjack, Just wondering.....By having the wall on one of the longer edges of the mat and being onley half the length of that particular side.
What are the chances of a fighter being ran into what I will call the "knife edge" of the wall, or the end of the wall.
Sharp edges or corners are a concern as I feel some of the fighters will push, to run the guys into the wall in a event to corner the opponent, and may inadvertently do so when the angle may not be there.
Just a thought and a little bit of a concern.
                                                                         Dog Tom

Woof, The presence of the"council of elders" is like gas is to a fire. I agree with Tom this is going to be a special gathering.
I think the fighting is going to be especially "spirited"
Gettin all jacked up on bone crushing terror .........
                                                                         Dog Tom

Woof Danjack, I'am one of the fighters at the upcomming gathering that you will be producing.  I have heard through the grapevine that there is going to be a no camera rule for this gathering.
Is this going to be no camera, no way, no how, period?
One thing we like to do and have done in the past is take pictuers of each other in the end....you know friends, comrades and fellow tribe memebers....that kind of stuff. Kinda like a big group hug
It is my hope there will be some flexibilty to the no camera rule?
Can we talk about this?
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Woof Tom, As they say in poker......ALL IN!!
Exciting eh?   Its good to be alive and living.......
                                                                 Dog TG/SB

Woof Tom, Glad to hear you got a clean bill of health!! Good Idea in the campaign for the 90sec. fights
I would like to also throw my petion in to include us who are in the over 40 crowd
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Guro Crafty, The summer gathering will indeed be held at the R-1 gym?
                                                                       TG

Woof, Since no one has yet responded to my previous post, I'am guessing that by asking for the number of stick fights fought at a single gahtering was the wrong approach to what I was actually looking for.

It was NOT intended to be a one upsmanship thing where one person would brag about fighting 3 fights and another 4 and so on and on.
Having onley fought in two gatherings and having fought onely two stick fights per gathering I certainly have nothing to brag about.
My thought was to have fighters express their growth as fighters, and things they have learned not onley from fighting, but also from experiencing adverse conditions such as going back out to fight after maybe not doing so well the previous fight or when really tired or slightly injured ect. ect.
That kinda thing.
I have always felt and exeperienced most growth when I have been out of my comfort zone and been forced to experience things I may not in a normal situation have chosen or liked to have experienced but survived it anyway.........
Hope to hear some from gahtering experiences.
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Woof Dog Greg, Much props for taking that fight, the first time and your courage to fight true dog 2 times to follow.
True dog is one tough cookie and someone to be feared.
Hats off!
Speaking of true dog.......was he at the Nov. gathering......seems hes missing? Anyone know whats become of him?
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I think with Crocop comming in and some of the new up and commers like Branden Vera....the heavy weight division is passing Tim Silvia by........I think Arlovski can still make noise there but the more svelt mobile big guys are going to take over this weight class IMHO....
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