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Martial Arts Topics / My Silat in Indonesia Adventures
« on: October 18, 2011, 11:10:10 PM »
Since I'm stuck at home with strep throat I thought I would take some time to share my recent Silat adventure here in Indonesia.

I recently moved to Surabaya, Indonesia. Surabaya is the second largest city in Indonesia and sits in East Jawa (Jawa Timor), near the island of Madura. Since I have known I was coming to Indonesia I have looked for Silat training here, what I was most interested in was finding traditional Silat. There are numerous large schools throughout Indonesia that teach sport style Silat, I was looking for something smaller and more traditional. I have had a love/hate relationship with Silat, sometimes it seems to be this incredibly effective system other times it seems flowery beyond words. Almost everyday while here I asked someone if they knew any Silat schools, I speak Indonesian, so I know it wasn't a language barrier, but everyone said there were no schools, tried to get me to go to Wushu schools, or thought of Silat as more a cultural dance, the term "budaya hilang" or "lost culture" came out once or twice. Everyone said Silat was really in the west of Java, Jakarta, or Bandung, or maybe only taught to family members. I refused to believe there was no Silat in Surabaya.

Through the internet I managed to get a hold of someone who studied under a Maduran Guru who lives in Surabaya, Mas Amien Mochamed. I had seen some brief clips of him on the net and read a blog which I am not sure if he put up or his students, but it seemed like a good first try, as it was my first real solid lead on training in Surabaya. From the blog all I knew was that the style was Maduran, and included four sub-styles, only one of which I had any experience with (Harimau).

Finding the club was an adventure itself, I live in the far suburbs of the city, the club was in the furthest side of the city from me about 20km's which with Indonesian traffic could well more than an hour drive. The address I had for the school was near Sunan Ampel Mosque. Sunan Ampel is famous mosque in the city in what seems to be a very religious neighborhood. In fact Mas Amien's school was called the Center for Religious study. My taxi driver seemed perplexed why I wanted to go to the Mosque, or more specifically the small alleyway I was looking for. The school was off the main road down a small alley/street, if you've been to Thailand it is almost the same as the small "soi". After finding the right "street" I headed down, it was obviously not a place with a lot of foreigners passing through. The very small homes all faced the street with tiny porches, the people all watching me as I passed by. I didn't get any bad vibes, just the curious reaction I sometimes get from locals when I wander from the main drag.

Having told him I was coming Mas Amien was waiting for me outside his school.

It was a small school, a room really, in what looked like what would otherwise be the living room of his house. We had the brief but awkward conversation where I stumble through in Indonesian telling my life story. There were a couple of surprises that really should not have been, first I was asked what religion I was, the reason being as a non-muslim I could only study to a certain level (based on the culture/history of the area from which the arts developed this was not too shocking, as the system was still being used against the dutch 70 years ago). Never the less Mas Amien was friendly and said he teaches people of all religions but reserves some teaching, I can accept that.

The second surprise was when I told him how hard it was to find a Silat Guru in Surabaya, he laughed and said on that street alone there were seven Guru's, but most Guru's in the area only teach family and friends, this reaffirmed my beliefs about the availability of schools in Surabaya.

The training was good, it was tough, I came out bruised, tired, sweaty and learned a couple new tricks, the Harimau was similar and different to what I had learnt, I never bothered with the Jurus (forms) in Silat before only the application so that was hard to get used to, as well because of my size, and the size of the training space I was like a bull in a China shop. There were some things I recognized, striking patterns from the open eight, infinity (see Guro Marc's Kali Tudo vids for more on that), as well as somethings totally foreign to me. The "Macan" or tiger style (I'm not sure how the word differs from Harimau which also means Tiger) of pinching pulling and tearing left me with bruises all over my chest and back. It was a great overall experience and I plan to go back.

Oh and I was worried I would get the foreigner ("bule" in Indonesian) pricing, but per month it works out to a little over $7.50 a month.

Sheep Dog

Martial Arts Topics / Fall Gathering! Fighters thread
« on: October 17, 2007, 11:05:36 PM »
I love the Summer gathering for one reason only, it means that I only have to wait four months for the next one, and it's here all ready. If you plan on being there drop your name on the thread.

I may do a fight single stick with shield, anyone interested?


Martial Arts Topics / Some Jun07 Gathering Pics
« on: July 01, 2007, 10:31:36 AM »

More to come.

Crafty I will send you them as well.

Martial Arts Topics / Gathering Numbers
« on: May 29, 2007, 11:30:04 PM »
Just some food for thought:

At this upcoming gathering there will be

6 Full Dog Brothers

9 Candidate Dog Brothers

4 Dogs

and 24 other fighters

That is over forty fighters!

I have to say I am excited at the prospect. I know a lot of us have been getting prepared physically and mentally for this gathering.

I am especially glad to see both Salty Dog and Top Dog will be in attendance.


Martial Arts Topics / Street Weapons
« on: January 22, 2007, 01:11:21 PM »
Came across this a couple of weeks ago. Essentially this is what a Meth dealer is using to make friends and influence people.

This is a sawed off aluminum baseball bat.

Martial Arts Topics / Time for Thanks
« on: June 26, 2006, 03:56:36 PM »
I just wanted to publically thank Crafty Dog for the Gathering. This is the first time I really went in with solid stick training, and thanks to Guro Crafty's guidance things went very well.

I had a blast, learnt some new things, and got to play with a shock knife while fighting which was very eye opening.

Thanks to my partners who went against me in my matches.

Proverbs 27:17

Iron sharpens iron; so a man sharpens his friend's countenance.

Martial Arts Topics / - Guro Ray Floro Seminar -
« on: June 14, 2005, 03:46:16 PM »

 Ray Floro will be returning to the United States this coming July and
 will be giving one and only one public seminar on the west coast.

To go to any other of his seminars you have to be at Sama-Sama with Sayoc, in New York, or the Special Forces at Ft. Bragg

 This seminar in Southern California will be that seminar.

 When: 16th and 17th of July
 Where: Los Angeles
 Cost: $150 for two (2) days training

 If you were there for the last seminar you know how incredible it was
 and how much Ray showed. You also know how popular it was so I am
 giving all of you the chance to get your reservations in.

 If you are going to attend email me at this email address and I will
 reserve a space for you. There are only 25 spots available.


Ray Floro is the founder of Floro Fighting Systems. He is a direct student of FMA legend Tatang Ilustrisimo, as well as a IKA-APAT BAITANG (3rd Degree) Instructor under the late Punong Guro Edgar Sulite. Ray has taken his extensive FMA training and western fencing to develop a unique and an extremely efficient style of stick and knife fighting.

He is considered by many to be the worlds foremost expert on Pakal, or reverse grip style knife fighting and must be seen to be believed.

 I look forward to seeing each of you there!

 Marc Scott

Martial Arts Topics / Historical Escrima Footage Online
« on: August 04, 2004, 09:48:44 AM »
For those of you interested we have decided to post closed door training footage from the mid eighties of Antonio 'Tatang' Ilustrisimo and Master Tony Diego. For a long time this video was rumored to exist but no one had actually seen it.

There are only two clips totalling about ten minutes online now but we will be bringing more online as time and server space allows. We have literally hours of tape of training from Luneta park in Manila, and in Tatang's living room.

Please take a moment to check them out. articles and video section



Martial Arts Topics / Ray Floro- FFS/Kalis Ilustrisimo Seminar Review
« on: March 24, 2004, 07:04:38 AM »
Before I begin let me say I am a students of Ray's so I will try to be as unbiased as possible, though it may prove hard.

This is the second time I have had a seminar with ray and the first time I hosted a seminar so nerves were at an all time high. There were a lot of obstacles before the seminar not the least of which was the fact that Ray was in the hospital with severe food poisoning less than five hours before the seminar started, now on to the good stuff...

Ray held a two day seminar at a local gym in Bellflower (thanks to Jerry at Centerline Gym, if you haven't seen Jerry's unarmed gainst blade tape Redzone do so now). The first day covered Ray's unique way of fighting with the knife. Ray comes from a fencing background and it clearly showed as he demonstarted grips, footwork and principles which all took advantage of fencing's principles along with those of Ilustrisimo. Those of you who have seen Ray have experienced the CANNON, Ray's explosive entries which leave you scratching you head and wondering just how you got hit so damn hard, well Ray took the time to break it down so that most of the participants had a pretty good cannon going early on. This explosive entry is the hallmark of Ray's style in my mind, it is also tactically a mich better idea than getting invovled in a draw out give and take with a knife. Ray also worked on the reverse grip which is the way he holds the knife and espouses as a grip, while some were doubtful as to reach of this method he quickly showed just how little reach you lose and how much advantage the grip gives you. What was truly amazing was just how much people were able to integrate Ray's material immediately.

The second day of the seminar dealt with blunt weapon against blade, Ray demonstrated the two handed approach as well as the snooker game with sticks which knocked the opponents heads back like pez dispensers. Ray also felt good enough enough to spar, what was truly amazing was not just how he sparred bu how he called out what he was going to just before he did it, truly oustanding. We also worked on flexible weapons against blade, these techniques are a paired down version of sarong techniques that in my opinion at least are a more realistic way to train.

I had given up on FMA for a long time until I met Ray and he renewed my faith. He is without a doubt the most open and innovative instructor I have met and trained with.

Special thanks to Ray for his training and for sharing with us, also especially for bringing 20  year old video of Tatang Ilustrisimo training others in Luneta Parc in Manilla, great to see. And thanks to TG for sharing his thoughts on law enforcement training and the proper role of knife work in tactics, also to Mike W. for all his help during the seminar and years of trainig.

Of course words will never do when describing Ray's style so if he is in your area take a seminar.

Martial Arts Topics / Kalis Ilustrisimo training in Los Angeles
« on: September 25, 2003, 09:05:32 PM »
Moderators, if this is not the proper place for this please feel free to delete

Now Available in Los Angeles/Southern California


Kalis Ilustrisimo, the Filipino weapon art developed by Antonio
"Tatang" Ilustrisimo, is now being taught in the Los Angleles area.
Classes are lead by Marc Scott, certified instructor under Raymond
Floro (a direct Students of Ilustrisimo himself).

These classes are all blade based, based on the idea that one is more
likely to encouter, or carry an edged weapon versus a sword or stick.
That being so all knife skills can easily be transferred to a variety
of weapons, including impact and larger edged weapons.

Kalis Ilustrisimo has been characterized as "... very deadly, direct
and immediate. Unique in the simple, direct and cunning way it is
done, it is one of the very few styles that is still based on the
blade. Its movements are compact and accurate, characterised by
typically small, simple and direct movements without any gaps between
attack and defence."

Kalis Ilustrisimo is widely regarded as one of the most effective
blade systems in the world today.

Stressing simplicity and compact combat, the techniques taught can be
applied as easily in doorway, as in an open room.

Technique is never taught in isolation and students learn to spar what
they are taught almost immediately.

If you want to learn complicated stick patterns, and two man drills
this is not the training for you, if you do want to learn a highly
effective knife system with an increadibly fast learning curve this is
the system for you.


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