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Martial Arts Topics / Re: June 2007 Gathering
« on: May 20, 2007, 06:54:05 PM »
Thanks to the both of you Toms!  I was born in that area but my parents moved to Illinois so I was thinking about checking that area out if we had the time.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Yoga
« on: May 18, 2007, 05:54:35 PM »
Hi Maija,

How would one be able to tell that they have a good Tai Chi instructor? I mean I can ask around but I don't really know anyone and their answer will probably be biased.
What qualities would a begginner to look for?

Also to others who practice Yoga what qualities should beginners look for in a Yoga instructor?

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: June 2007 Gathering
« on: May 17, 2007, 07:13:41 PM »
OMG, I hope to bring them with me! LOL. I checked the spelling and I believe it is El Cajon.

Yes, I think a wall would be most enjoyable!!!   How about all you other fighters?


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Martial Arts Topics / Re: June 2007 Gathering
« on: May 17, 2007, 06:41:54 PM »
Wow this is going to be exciting!

Guro Crafty do you think that with the addition of camera lights it will have any effect on the mask like a small kind of glare? Will the crowd be sitting around the marked off area, with the fighters in the center and do we have to worry about getting backed into the crowd? Will there be a wall? Im just curious as this will be my first time  :-D

On a non related note is San Tee or El Cajone very far?

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Yoga
« on: May 14, 2007, 01:03:57 PM »
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You young guys who aren't doing flexibility and range of motion training now will be sorry as hell later.  Thta is one promise I can make unabashedly to you.


I hear that, I have been interested in the "hot box" for a while it is something that I will add to my list to create balance and "Walk as a warrior for all my days"

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: The ultra useful Illustrismo Cross Step
« on: May 11, 2007, 12:21:36 PM »
Hey thats a pretty interesting cross reference Krait. Is your background primarily in the Chinese Martial Arts?

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Anything else similar going on during the weekend of the gathering?  Ill be in town till the 26th.

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Martial Arts Topics / Cintron targets UFC titlist! -
« on: May 08, 2007, 03:59:45 PM »
www.fightnews.com
Cintron targets UFC titlist!
Floyd Mayweather Jr. says he doesn't want to battle a UFC champion. No problem. IBF World Welterweight Champion and former high school/college wrestling star Kermit Cintron would like to accept the challenge from UFC President Dana White, it was announced today by Main Events CEO Kathy Duva. Cintron, who will be defending his IBF crown against mandatory challenger Walter Matthysse on July 14 in Atlantic City, NJ, would like to battle the UFC champion following his June IBF title defense. "I want the fight," said Cintron. "I can wrestle. I can box. I can beat those UFC fighters at their own game. Tell Mr. White to make me an offer and I'll take on his guy after I fight Matthysse on July 14." Cintron (27-1, 25 KO's) captured the vacant IBF crown on October 28, 2006, when he destroyed Mark Suarez in six rounds (TKO 6). The 27-year-old Reading, PA resident by way of Carolinas, Puerto Rico once finished 10th at the NJCAA Wrestling Championships. As a senior in high school he was offered full wrestling scholarships to Wisconsin University and Ohio State University. The Cintron-Matthysse bout will serve as the co-feature to the Arturo Gatti-Alfonso Gomez contest. Main Events is promoting the July 14 evening of boxing, in association with The Tournament of Contenders, LLC and Caesars Atlantic City.
Tuesday, May 8 2007

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: May 08, 2007, 02:57:20 PM »
Wow, thats sad.  Didnt he just fight last month?

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: May 06, 2007, 03:01:08 PM »
Hmmmm well......

I thought it was a decent fight, I would have liked to see Oscar just a tad more active and it was nice to see him more aggressive, I think if he used his Jab more often then the fight may have had a different outcome.  Mayweather is an excellent boxer but he didnt shut down nor did he "whoop his ass" like Roger Mayweather bragged about at the end of the fight. Overall I think it was a good fight. Worth the $55, I don't know but I enjoyed it.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: May 03, 2007, 06:58:42 PM »
No problem Chris. 

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: May 03, 2007, 02:18:26 PM »
Also at cbs.com is this article, the counter to Mike Freeman by Gregg Doyel

http://cbs.sportsline.com/columns/story/10164182

Boxing is dead, but its brain still hasn't gotten the message to the body. That will come after this weekend, after Oscar De La Hoya fights Floyd Mayweather. Don't be fooled by whatever noise comes out of Las Vegas. It's just boxing's death rattle.

   
Once Oscar De La Hoya retires, what will boxing have to offer? (Getty Images)   
Boxing has been dying for years, of course. But the old boy has bled and wheezed and stumbled onward because, frankly, there was nothing to take its place. Nothing to finish off this once-regal sport -- which has spent decades hitting itself in the stomach -- with a fist to the face.

There's something to finish off boxing now. If you know what I'm talking about, you know exactly what I'm talking about. And if you don't know, you're going to laugh or scoff or leave this page so you can read cranky old Mike Freeman grump about all those whippersnappers and hooligans in the UFC. Freeman was listening to Bananarama and wearing denim shorts when he wrote that column. Denim shorts are out, you know. They're yesterday.

So is boxing. Boxing is out. Expired. Irrelevant.

Mixed martial arts -- MMA, thank you very much -- will be the new boxing. And the UFC will be the new WBA. Or WBC. Or WBO. Or IBF. Or whatever useless string of letters boxing tried to throw together as it took its final breaths.

Boxing is dead not just because boxing is worse than ever -- which it is -- but also because the UFC is better than boxing on all but boxing's best day. Give boxing a charmer like Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard, and give him some talented competition like Joe Frazier or Thomas Hearns, and boxing has a chance. Give boxing Ruslan Chagaev and Vitali Klitschko, and it's being rushed to the hospital, its heart stopped, none of the doctors caring enough to save it.

And don't give me De La Hoya-Mayweather. What are they, welterweights? Middleweights? I'm not looking it up, because I don't care. And that's the point. Boxing has lost me, and lots of people like me, because the fighters aren't as good, the rivalries aren't as compelling, and the access -- it's all about (free) TV, people -- isn't as easy.

The heavyweight champion used to be the most famous man in the world. But boxing is so inept now that when its heavyweight champ was a 7-foot, 325-pound circus act, most people still couldn't name him (he was Nikolai Valuev, and you didn't miss much.)

In the 1980s boxing grabbed me by the heart with Marvelous Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Leonard, "Hit Man" Hearns and Aaron Pryor. Alexis Arguello, Tony Ayala and Dwight Qawi. Sean O'Grady and Cornelius Boza-Edwards. Marvin Johnson. Yaqui Lopez.

Now it's full of ... who? Who matters in boxing beyond De La Hoya and Mayweather? Nobody, and De La Hoya will probably retire after this fight. That'll leave Mayweather to fight somebody you've never heard of. Let's see HBO market that.

Meanwhile, the UFC is growing impossibly fast even without a major television breakthrough. Spike TV airs old UFC cards on Tuesdays and the reality show The Ultimate Fighter 5 on Thursdays (Corey Hill is a future champ, Gabe Ruediger is a narcissistic fraud and Jens Pulver is my kind of coach). But that's not the TV breakthrough I have in mind.

UFC also is growing as a pay-per-view ticket, breaking some boxing (and pro wrestling) records and soon to break them all. Until this spring the UFC had been a West Coast phenomenon, but when it visited Columbus, Ohio, in March it sold all 19,000 available tickets in hours. Earlier this month the UFC went to England for a free show on Spike. The UFC is spreading globally -- but that's not the TV breakthrough, either.

As soon as ESPN and UFC president Dana White make a deal, UFC will reach a tipping point -- on its way to becoming more popular than boxing ever was. Mark my words. The sport is that cool, and after growing underground, it's ready to rise up and swallow boxing whole.

Basically, the UFC is everything boxing should be. Fast action. Quick fights, even ones that go the distance. Brutal knockouts. Fascinating characters. And in White the UFC has a magnetic, believable front man that boxing, stuck with Don King and Bob Arum, lacks.

The whole process -- UFC in, boxing out -- is happening faster than you realize, because behind the scenes boxing is being robbed by mixed martial arts. Boxing gyms are yesterday. MMA workout dens are today and tomorrow. Talented young fighters now have a choice, and many are chasing the UFC, not the IBF. As that talent drain continues, boxing's slide will become irreversible. Maybe it already has become irreversible. OK by me. Boxing had its chance and blew it. Kind of like the Tyrannosaurus.

This weekend, two of the last dinosaurs will go at it in Las Vegas. People will watch, because old habits die hard.

Fine.

A funeral deserves a good turnout.



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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: May 03, 2007, 02:09:28 PM »
Joking about what? That is an actual article written by Mike Freeman that was posted @ http://cbs.sportsline.com
Perhaps I should have clarified that I didnt write the article. I just find it astound as to how someone can still think this way of the UFC especially a journalist.  Maybe it is his own way of trying to save boxing.

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THIS IS PART TWO FROM THE ARTICLE ABOVE

No UFC goon has or ever will possess the grace and natural showmanship of De La Hoya or the true fearsome fighting skills of Mayweather.

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Notice the word: skills. This match will not resemble a bar-room brawl but meticulous, highly practiced, man-to-man warfare between two skilled, all-time athletes.

It is only a matter of time before the UFC suckers, er, fans realize they have been fooled by a Jedi mind trick.

The UFC should be banned; the De La Hoya-Mayweather bout should be embraced.

The fact a non-heavyweight match is getting so much attention shows that boxing still has appeal (and even I once thought it was dead). The fact boxing has survived despite so many scandals and crooked promoters demonstrate it has resilience.

"This (fight) is important because boxing is at its lowest point and boxing has been at its lowest point for quite a while now," De La Hoya told the New York Post. "Boxing is always taking these low blows left and right from people. This will give it a good shot in the arm."

The fight can do more than that. It can begin a resurgence perhaps not seen before in American sports. If the fight is particularly competitive, casual fans will give boxing another look and the all-important advertisers will again open their wallets instead of turning their backs.

Then maybe we can begin to put the sad joke that is the UFC behind us.

And once again we can get excited about a real sport.


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I think this could go into either the Boxing or MMA Thread. I for one enjoy both sports but this guy is definitely opinionated.
Youll have to go the site and read the rest of the article for some reason the 2nd page it taking forever to load....sorry.
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http://cbs.sportsline.com/columns/story/10162545/1

This is what the Oscar De La Hoya-Floyd Mayweather fight, one of the most important events in recent sports history, really means: It's boxing's last stand.

Boxing is fighting for its life, and in some ways the largest obstacle to its rebirth is its greatest competitor -- the worst league ever invented, the UFC. Which means it is good vs. evil, Halle Berry vs. Courtney Love, true sport against the mosh pit of sweat and bloodied skull fractures known as ultimate fighting.

   
It's up to Oscar and Floyd to get boxing back on the national landscape. (Getty Images)   
De La Hoya and Mayweather can single-handedly save their sport from deteriorating into dust while simultaneously stopping the advance of the UFC barbarians at the gate, trying to destroy boxing by polluting pay-per-view with their brand of low-brow, ghetto-fabulous hooliganism.

This is it. This is when boxing emerges from its great depression riding the shoulders of De La Hoya and finally strikes a blow to the caged ignorance that is mixed martial arts.

It will happen.

In the coming days, you will read foofs who will say boxing can never survive, despite one of the more glorious bouts just several days away. On Thursday, you will attempt to stomach the dopey ramblings of my good friend Gregg Doyel, otherwise known as Captain Persnickety, downplaying this grand moment in history. He's probably another ultimate fighting apologist as well.

Mixed martial arts will never be as good as boxing on its worst day. Many of the ultimates are nothing but thugs and ruffians. All that league has done is take a few former nightclub bouncers, knuckle crackers and parolees, put on some fancy TV graphics and told them, "Kick the other guy in the nuts."

No skill is required to knee someone in the groin (and it happens despite rules stating it is illegal). I'm kneeing Doyel in the groin now. See, was that difficult?

Next on Spike TV: Man eats another man's face. Then some dork will call it a sport.

The UFC has no credibility. UFC equals the Ultimate Farcical Clown league.

And please do not wax poetic about the UFC's popularity. Of course people watch the UFC. It's human cockfighting. It appeals to the lowest common denominator of human existence.

The message boards and my e-mail will be irradiated with balderdash about how the mainstream media is simply a bunch of snobs and we don't "get" the Ultimate Farcical Clown league. I love the NFL. Only Roman gladiators had a more dangerous sporting profession. The NFL is more violent than the UFC, but football at least possesses a veneer of being civilized.

Boxing is almost comically imperfect. It is full of crooks, con artists and ear biters (and that's just a weekend in Atlantic City with Mike Tyson). Despite its faults and notwithstanding the massive greed that has caused boxing to collapse on itself like a dying sun, boxing has more charm in its broken pinky than the Ultimate Farcical Clown league does in its entire crappy organization.


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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: May 02, 2007, 08:00:16 PM »
http://fightnews.com/

De La Hoya-Mayweather presser!
By Mike Sloan / Photo: Mary Ann Owen



Comments were brief at today's final press conference for Saturday's Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather showdown at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. Both fighters stated their training camps were perfect and this is the biggest fight of their lives. De La Hoya said, "I've never been this focused and this motivated in my life....this is the fight of my life....on Cinco de Mayo I will prove that I am still the best pound-for-pound fighter." Floyd recalled the days when both fighters fought under the Top Rank banner. "I never wanted to get close to him because I always knew I was going to fight him," stated Floyd. "Now is my chance to prove that I'm the best." Floyd's trainer Roger Mayweather commented, "This fight is supposed to be the greatest fighter against the greatest popular fighter, but we all know what will happen. Someone's getting their a-- kicked and it ain't going to be my nephew." Oscar's trainer Freddie Roach countered, "I don't have much to say, all I know is it's going to be a real short night." Things were calm when fighters faced off for photographers. They will weigh-in at 2PM Friday.
Wednesday, May 2 2007

NEWS FLASH
Oscar, Floyd quick quotes!
By Albert Howell
Oscar de la Hoya: "We are ready for this fight. Floyd Mayweather is always in good shape. We are expecting the best-of-the-best. Having Freddy Roach in my corner I believe will make a difference.....It is up to us two fighters to fight the best we can. I am going to fight as hard as I can. May 5th is an important date for me and I have trained hard to beat Floyd Mayweather on May 5th."
Floyd Mayweather, Jr.: "I am here. I know what it takes. I am hungry and I am willing to die on May 5th.....I am looking forward to giving the fans excitement. On May 5th you will see the best Floyd Mayweather."
Freddy Roach, Trainer for Oscar de la Hoya: "We had a great training camp in Puerto Rico. My guy is ready to go. Don't miss this one! It might not last long."
Roger Mayweather, Trainer for Floyd Mayweather: "My nephew knows nothing about losing. He only knows winning."
Wednesday, May 2 2007


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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: May 01, 2007, 11:24:12 AM »
According to this blurb on fightnews.com 54.95.

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In addition to De La Hoya-Mayweather, Saturday's 54.95 pay-per-view telecast will also feature two other fights, featherweight Rocky Juarez against Jose Hernandez and super bantamweight Rey Bautista against Sergio Medina.

Actually here is the whole thing:
De La Hoya vs Mayweather:
Fight Week is finally here!
By Karl Freitag
After a three month media campaign that included an eleven city press tour, a half-dozen conference calls, and even a four-part HBO preview, "Fight Week" for Oscar De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather officially kicks off today in Las Vegas. Mayweather, who lives and trains in Las Vegas, will simply come across town to make his "grand arrival" at the MGM Grand at 11:30AM. De La Hoya is scheduled to arrive from Puerto Rico via Los Angeles at 12:15PM. Fight fans are invited to meet both fighters at the MGM Grand lobby. On Wednesday, Oscar and Floyd are scheduled to face off in front of reporters at a prefight press conference. On Friday, the weigh-in will be open to the public and is scheduled at 2PM in the MGM Grand Garden Arena.


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In addition to De La Hoya-Mayweather, Saturday's 54.95 pay-per-view telecast will also feature two other fights, featherweight Rocky Juarez against Jose Hernandez and super bantamweight Rey Bautista against Sergio Medina.
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There are two other major fight cards in town on May 4, the eve of the big fight. At the MGM Grand Conference Center Ballroom, WBO flyweight champion Hugo Cazares will defend his title against Wilfrido Perez, plus Francisco "Panchito" Bojado returns. Telefutura will televise. At the Palms Casino Resort, the first-ever professional boxing event in "The Pearl" - a recently opened 2,500 capacity, state-of-the-art theater - will feature undefeated USBA heavyweight champion "Fast" Eddie Chambers against Dominick Guinn. That card will also be televised.
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One of the big announcements that will be made this week is that Bernard Hopkins vs Winky Wright will take place on July 21 across the street at Mandalay Bay.
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De La Hoya-Mayweather sold out in only three hours and will generate a record live gate of $19.3 million. But what if you don't have tickets and you just have to be there in person? Ticketsnow.com currently has 837 tickets available ranging from $920 to $24,725 each.
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At Sportsbook.com, the odds have closed to Mayweather -170, De La Hoya +140. Meanwhile, in the Fightnews.com poll, 62% predict a win for Oscar (43% by KO, 19% by decision), just 38% like Floyd (8% by KO, 30% by decision).
Tuesday, May 1 2007

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: May 01, 2007, 10:18:26 AM »
Im looking forward to this fight.

I haven't seen the latest installment, but contentwise it was ok... I think the most interesting thing I learned so far was that Freddy Roach is dealing with parkinsons and the training is helping him keep it in check.

Personally I would like to see Oscar win even though I like both boxers & the last few boxers that were really able to anger Oscar were knocked out. Yeah I know Floyd is slick and fast. Will Oscar come out and try to mow him down while Floys uses his smooth moves to evade and tire Oscar?? We shall soon see.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: June 2007 Gathering
« on: April 30, 2007, 06:21:46 PM »
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Yeah,  the poll now shows that I am no longer the only first time Gathering fighter!  Im not alone...   
I can stop howling at the moon now. 


Thats right, you are not alone and neither am I.  :-D

Just a question, what is everyones preference? Single, Double ... Staff??

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: April 27, 2007, 01:48:29 AM »
Well Andy Wang lost and all I have to say is Why????

Why didn't you listen to your corner, that is what they are there for!!

Oh well....

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: VIDEO CLIPS OF INTEREST
« on: April 26, 2007, 07:39:28 PM »
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Just saw these today!

The crew in Beijing have mostly MMA backgrounds.  Some have worked a little Illustrisimo.

We had a lot of fun that day!

Woof,
Russ

Great job! Indeed it does look like you guys had a lot of fun!

I found this clip at another forum, its s street fight in Turkey 1 guy takes on a few guys and does very well!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g-R6gB25zg[/youtube]

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: VIDEO CLIPS OF INTEREST
« on: April 13, 2007, 11:58:35 AM »
Found this while browsing another forum:

http://www.fmaforum.org/index.php?s=b7d397ed7a210e8c57f9318d39883a9e&showtopic=1730

One caption in the video states "Approximately 80% of all U.S. Law enforcement agencies have incorporated Filipino Martial Arts."

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUKEyyzRh6g[/youtube]


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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Tapado
« on: April 11, 2007, 06:03:23 PM »
Wow, the ability to share information visually & aurally through youtube is just awesome.

This is a lot of material to digest, I hope more people post as they digest all this info.

If you look at the clips that were in the "Toa" Thread, you will see that striking was similar but not that much information is available on the Maori "staff."

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: April 10, 2007, 07:28:37 PM »
His right hand rarely left his head as apposed to all of the fighters that hold their hands low and off their head.

I agree, he was throwing some nice body shots too.

Next weeks UFC should be a good show too!

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: TOA: Maori reality TV clips
« on: April 09, 2007, 02:23:58 PM »
Another clip from the site:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImhHWL29qHg

This one slows down the action some..

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: 300
« on: April 09, 2007, 12:46:01 PM »
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This might be a dumb question and since it was taken from a comic book, I was just wondering about the accuracy of the sword that the Spartans used? I thought it looked pretty cool.

See here:

http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/300-spartan-swords.html

Thanks for the link Blain!

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Martial Arts Topics / TOA: Maori reality TV clips
« on: April 09, 2007, 10:14:59 AM »
I found these clips on youtube this morning....

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SPOT - T.O.A - Toa O Aotearoa - Indigenous Maori warriors fighting skills put to the test. Enjoy a SNEAK PREVIEW into inner sanctum of Maori weaponry and warfare. More info at www.nztoa.co.nz More previews...coming soon! from user NZTOA

Ko te iwi Toa e ngunguru nei!
Au, au, aue ha hi!

Ko wai ka eke ki te taumata T.O.A
Au, au, aue ha.

Tihe
Mauri Toa!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqKixoryUVQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFK6tTZTmew


Sorry this clip is from something else but notice the delivery of the two strikes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7CJzWNk4PM

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: VIDEO CLIPS OF INTEREST
« on: April 05, 2007, 01:32:01 AM »
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I dont recall seeing this one listed.  Give it a a few seconds and then it picks up...  Worth the wait.


Nice clip.

Sifu Rick Miyahara kinda looks like one of the competitors in one of the clips on the The Grandfathers Speak, I think he appears in a clip right before Top Dog performs his seguida but I could be wrong, lol.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: What would you have done?
« on: April 03, 2007, 11:46:58 AM »
I too was curious about "Bystander Apathy" so I googled it and found the following article:

http://www.psychology.sbc.edu/dixon.htm


As a female and as a child growing up I was constantly reminded of the anecdote, "there is safety in numbers". In all honesty I have felt that I was safer in a crowd than in an alley, with one or two people. According to research however, this is a false sense of security due to a phenomenon known as the bystander effect. A person in trouble is much safer when there is only one or two people than if there is a large crowd of people in the vicinity (Latane & Darley, 1968). Whether a bystander helps someone depends on their self-interest, mood, and empathetic concern (Lord, 1997). It is important to address this notion because many people other than myself still have this false sense of security, and an awareness of it could reduce the possible negative outcomes of the bystander effect.

    Davis and Palladino (1997) define the bystander effect as the tendency for a group of bystanders to be less likely than an individual to help a person in trouble. A bystander experiences qualms with the possibility of embarrassment, not knowing how to help and very often experiences a diffusion of responsibility (Davis and Palladino, 1997). The famous incident that sparked the concern of the possibility of bystander apathy (essentially ignoring a person in trouble) was the murder of Kitty Genovese. In 1964, she was publicly stabbed to death while people watched from their apartments and did nothing to help her (Davis and Palladino, 1997). Obviously, this event was cause for public concern. John Darley and Bibb Latane, two social psychologists researched the phenomenon and discovered the reasons for why this happens in our society. They demonstrated that helping behavior follows a model of intervention or a decision tree model, that involves five stages, noticing the problem, deciding if it is an emergency, taking responsibility, deciding what to do, and taking action to help. So when a person is in trouble they are better off to be around one or two people than in a crowd of people. As the group size increases a person’s sense of responsibility is decreased because they essentially feel that "someone else will do something" (Latane and Darley, 1968).

    I have always felt safer around the "macho" men (Army guy, body builder, athlete), a doctor, nurse or police officer simply because they are strong and trained to help you. A stronger seeming man is again a false sense of security. According to research done by Tice and Baumeister (1985), a highly masculine man is actually less likely to help someone in trouble. Essentially a highly masculine man, or "macho man" is less likely to intervene in a situation unless it is clearly defined as an emergency because they risk embarrassment. The explanation for this is a stereotypically make concern with "keeping their cool", and not seeming to overact (Latane and Darley, 1968). According to Latane and Darley (1968), there is actually no evidence of any gender differences in helping behavior, however there are differences in terms of the competence of the bystander. According to research by Cramer, McMaster, Bartell, and Dragna (1988) feeling safer around a person who is trained to help in an emergency is warranted because they are more likely to help. So a police officer, doctor or nurse are bystanders who would help in an emergency situation because they feel competent (Cramer, et al, 1988).

    Research done by Gottleib and Carver (1979) demonstrates the possibility of reducing bystander apathy, or a person’s unwillingness to help. Their research showed that if there is a chance that a bystander will have to face the person in trouble again, they are more likely to help them. They further found that like Darley and Latane found, the bystander effect is weakened if they are aquatinted with the person in trouble. Gottleib and Carver concluded that the bystander effect reliably occurs only under conditions of anonymity (Gottleib and Carver, 1979). A person is unable to ignore someone in need if they risk interacting with him in the future. A person who is contemplating helping someone in trouble is mindful of the gains, and the consequences of doing so. It seems that those costs and benefits are weighed before helping someone in need.

    Interestingly, when a person is in a good mood they are more likely to help someone in trouble. This is so consistent that researchers have termed it "the warm glow of good will" a notion discovered by Berkowitz and Connor in 1969 (Lord, 1997). People who are in a good mood tend to regard the world more positively, which enables them to focus on the gains of helping in a situation. Furthermore people in a good mood want to seem like good people, so they help as a way to gain praise, and reinforcement (Berkowitz 1987; Gibbons & Wicklund, 1982). Researchers have even found that helping a person can improve a negative mood (Cunningham, Steinburg, & Grev, 1980) but people are not likely to help if their mood cannot be improved from the helping.

    When a bystander is determining whether or not to help in an emergency situation they are going through a process of decision making theorized and termed by Latane and Darley as the Decision Tree Model Of Helping. In this process a person must first notice that there is an emergency, and actually interpret it as an emergency (Lord, 1997). Once a person has deemed the situation an emergency they are significantly influenced by the amount of people that are present which is the bystander effect. If there are many people it is at this point that a person’s sense of responsibility diffuses. The possible problem with this, as seen in the Kitty Genovese case, everybody in the crowd senses of responsibility diffuse leaving no one to help. If there are a few people or if the bystander is alone, then apathy does not occur according to research (Latane & Darley, 1968). This is because the bystander feels responsible, and fears feelings of guilt. Once the bystander has taken responsibility they must feel capable of offering assistance and then something can be done. This process is what Latane and Darley theorize that bystanders go through when faced with an emergency situation.

    The bystander effect is a real phenomenon and there are incidents that occur today even with an awareness of the possible consequences of it. In June of this past summer there was a significant occurrence in Central Park during a Puerto Rican Day parade in Fifth Avenue. A mob of men were attacking women, robbing them and throwing water on them. This was in the middle of the day, when there were hundreds of people around watching. The women went to the police but they were ignoring the commotion. This is a recent example of the power of the bystander effect. The more people that were there, the fewer people were willing to help. Disturbingly however, the police officers were not. The bystander effect can have serious consequences if people are not aware of its force in a situation.

    The bystander effect is a real and possibly dangerous phenomenon. I think that people should be more aware of the consequences of it, and perhaps there will be fewer incidences of people not being helped. I think that if people are mindful of the latter influences on helping behavior then there will be less bystander apathy. Latane and Darley were the pioneers of this notion and there research central to the understanding of the bystander effect. Today people are still comforted by the presence of many people, especially at night, or in an alley, it is important that they are aware that being around crowds of people in a potentially dangerous situation is not always safe.

References

Berkowitz, L. (1969). The frustration aggression hypothesis. In L. Berkowitz (Ed.), Roots of Aggression: A re-examination of the frustration-aggression hypothesis (pp. 1-28). New York: Atherton

Berkowitz L. (1987). Mood, self-awareness, and willingness to help. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 52, 721-729.

Cramer, R., McMaster, M., Bartell, P., &Dragna, M. (1988). Subject Competence and Minimization of the bystander effect. Journal of Applied Social Psychology, 18, 1132-1148.

Cunningham, M.R. (1979). Weather, mood, and helping behavior: Quasi experiments with the sunshine samaritan. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 37, 1947-1956.

Davis, S., Palledino, J., (1997). Psychology, second edition (pp. 659-670). Prentice-Hall, Inc. Simon & Schuster, New Jersey.

Gottleib, J., Carver, C. (1980). Anticipation of future interaction and the bystander effect. Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, 16, 253-260.

Latane, D., Darley, J. (1968). The unresponsive bystander: Why doesn’t he help? NY: Appelton-Centruy-Crofts.

Latane, B., & Darley, J.M. (1976). Help in a crisis: Bystander response to an emergency. In J.W. Thibaut & J.T. Spence (Eds.), Contemporary topics in social psychology (pp. 309-332). Morristown, NJ: General Learning Press.

Lord, C. (1997). Social psychology. Fort Worth: Harcourt Brace College Publishers. (454-489).

Tice, D., Baumeister, R. (1985). Masculinity inhibits helping in emergencies: Personality does predict the bystander effect. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 49, 420-428.

http://www.lihistory.com/8/hs/818a.htm "The killing of Kitty Genovese" March, 13, 1964.

http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/06/14/central.park.assault.01/ "More woman and girls tell of attacks by mob of men in New York"June 14, 2000.

 

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Martial Arts Topics / ICON: Trigg vs Lawler clip
« on: April 02, 2007, 04:11:03 PM »
Found a clip of last Saturdays ICON event.

Trigg vs Lawler - Last round
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSugFwxrcRA

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Martial Arts Topics / Slapped!
« on: March 31, 2007, 11:25:55 AM »
http://www.comegetyousome.com/viewvid.php?id=2473

Can anyone translate the conversation?

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: March 29, 2007, 10:10:51 AM »
TUF 5 sounds like it is going to be awesome, someone already leaked out an incident that should appear on the first episode. I read that Bj really got on Jens nerves and by the end of the season they are going to throw down with some mean intent.


The Andy Wang interview is great! I cant wait to see him fight.

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In regards to the November gathering is the original location still a possibility? 

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: What would you have done?
« on: March 28, 2007, 06:18:58 PM »
What would I do??  I would step in and put myself in between the woman and the off duty cop and hope that the other patrons would stick up for me when the good officers finally arrived.  Technique wise? That fact that he is an off duty officer is a big factor on what I would do as far as striking but as for watching the video I see an instance where the guy on the left with the baseball cap could bumrush the guy, bounce him off a wall / counters and knock him down then maybe at least the others would assist.  I think the main focus would be to get him AWAY from the girl.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: What would you have done?
« on: March 23, 2007, 01:54:53 AM »
I believe a gathering is quite different than this assualt, at a gathering it is an agreement to fight and the people train for that event.  The bartender put herself in harms way to protect another patron. Also, at a gathering fighters activate their watcher to keep themselves from going beyond the threshhold.  In this case the guy is lucky he didnt kill the woman in a drunken rage.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: 300
« on: March 16, 2007, 02:37:09 PM »
This might be a dumb question and since it was taken from a comic book, I was just wondering about the accuracy of the sword that the Spartans used? I thought it looked pretty cool.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: The Dog Brothers Tribe
« on: March 15, 2007, 12:29:30 PM »
Congrats Tom!!!

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: March 08, 2007, 03:22:16 PM »
ESPN 360 Interview with Randy Couture

http://broadband.espn.go.com/espn360/

Look for "RANDY COUTURE CAPTURES UFC BELT"
I dont think there is a way to directly link to it.


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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Tippy-tappy drills-- threat or menace?
« on: March 08, 2007, 12:13:15 PM »
OK... I was while searching for more concrete info that Bruce was a Cha-Cha Champion I found this as well...

http://www.mimagazine.com.au/Issue01_Jan/BruceLee.htm

Why Martial Artists make Better Dancers
The Link between Martial Arts and Dancing 
 
Did you know that Bruce Lee - perhaps one of the greatest legends in martial arts - was also Hong Kong Cha Cha Champion in 1958? Indeed, Bruce Lee was an accomplished Latin dancer in his home town of Hong Kong before moving to the US to study and develop his martial arts system of Jeet Kune Do (Way of the Intercepting Fist)..   
 
 
 
So what was it about dancing that the young Bruce found so interesting, when to the rest of the world would only know him for his fighting skills?
Well here is one good reason: great dancing needs a lot of talent in all the right dance areas, including balance, timing, co-ordination, foot work and sensitivity. Superior martial artists require many of the same skills, often overlooked by power-hungry males! Martial artists that understand and develop these elusive qualities often naturally move to translate these skills to the dance floor!

The opposite scenario of course applies too: talented dancers are at a huge advantage when starting off in the martial arts. Bringing with them rhythm, timing, physical awareness and flexibility, the transition from dancing to martial arts can be a hugely rewarding one. While the diversions and enjoyment of dancing are multiple, the inner sense of confidence that martial arts can provide is second to none.

A prime quality shared by both dancers and martial artists is the ability to work with a partner, that is, 'the lead'. To be able to read your partner and follow their movements correctly in both time and space, whilst remaining balanced so that the two of you are in total harmony, is at the core of the true martial arts experience.

Anticipating each others intentions and therefore compensating for every possible error in judgment, whether by fault of balance or miss timed movement, is equally critical. In martial arts the action can be a little more intense, but the speed and tempo of great Latin dancing can also approach 'fast and furious'!

You have to execute your skills in defined area and even utilize your peripheral awareness (non-focused lateral visual contact) to avoid collisions on the dance floor.

Sensitivity of the palm and wrist to directional control in order to lead and spin is also used in the martial arts of Wing Chun and Tai Chi, and other systems where perception, awareness, sensitivity and control are highly valued, not just power.

It is interesting to observe that many of the 'showy' dance moves used today could have come straight out of martial arts 'text books' written thousands of years ago. A performance move often seen in partner dancing involves the man sweeping his right leg up and over his outstretched left hand, momentarily breaking contact with his partner - in martial arts otherwise known as an outside crescent kick! Or how about the dynamic spinning routines in break dance where the performer starts by twirling his legs overhead, spins on his back, and then pops onto his hands? No better example can be found than Jet Li's Wu Shu exhibitions in the movie Once Upon a Time in China! Then, of course, there is the example of Capoeira, a beautiful and powerful fusion of Brazilian rhythms, music, dance and martial arts.

Many of the same skills at work in dance are just applicable to the martial arts, and especially in that of Kung Fu where you are not just employing power but all the subtle talents of dancing as well.
 
 
By Sigung (and salsa dancer) Geoff Bennett of 'Geoff Bennett Martial Arts International (GBMAI)'.

Geoff has been studying and teaching a hybrid martial arts system based around Kung Fu for over 20 years and is currently in the process of translating his skills to the dance floor. Dancing students can hone their timing, sensitivity, flexibility and dynamic peripheral awareness skills at several GBMAI martial arts classes around Sydney.
http://www.martialarts-int.com.au
 

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Tippy-tappy drills-- threat or menace?
« on: March 08, 2007, 11:57:55 AM »
OK, since we are bringing up dancing Guro Lonely Dog mentioned something else I believe the FMA "tippy tap" drills / sinawali instills in people which is rythmn which is needed to dance as well.  Training to music is always fun, but the click clack of the sticks from sinawalis also produce a nice rythmn, kinda like a metronome 

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MT: How does the use of rhythm training (training to music) improve a students performance with regards to fighting in a Gathering?

BR: Again this varies from fighter to fighter and some people just have no rhythm! Someone does not need to have rhythm to be a good fighter. if someone has no rhythm I dont force them to train with rhythm but if they have a bit of feel for it then it can help a great deal. I have developed something called the 'Boogie Woogie' as a specific shadow boxing drill and since I have done this I have discovered how to break rhythm, maintain rhythm and control the pace of a fight. I believe its a major point in fighting to dominate the rhythm you want to fight and how to change that rhythm to disrupt your opponent and force him to create an opening.


Also

From:

http://imdb.com/name/nm0000045/bio


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The talented & athletic Bruce also took up cha-cha dancing, and at the age of 18 won a major dance championship in Hong Kong.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Tippy-tappy drills-- threat or menace?
« on: March 07, 2007, 02:45:32 PM »
Since dancing was mentioned I found an article on Tinikling:

http://www.alliancemartialarts.com/tinikling.htm

What do Traditional Filipino Dancers know that could Improve your Arnis, Kali, or Eskrima Skills?

The Tinikling
How Traditional Filipino Dance Can Develop Your Combative Attributes!
By Pete Kautz, 2005
It was roughly 17 years ago when I accidentally discovered a secret about the martial art I was studying. It was something so obvious, something we had all been told about, and even told was important...yet it was something that no one seemed to be paying any attention to. Can you imagine that?

When all the books and Grandmasters of your art mention that something is important, shouldn't you at least be tempted to "look into it" a little?

The thing was...it didn't seem to make any sense!

Here we were studying the martial art of Arnis, a powerful stick, knife, and unarmed fighting system. But all these sources pointed directly to...folk dances???

"Sure," some will scoff, "and what next, maybe eating some adobo to improve my skills, too?" You know, I can't blame the folks who say that, because I felt that way at one point too. But you know what? Even though I felt that way, I've always been glad that I decided to take a chance and try it anyhow.

Now, when your instructor says to you "We need a few more people for a demo, can you help?" how can you respond, but positively? That's how this all got started...how I stumbled across this training method!

What weapons would we be using I wondered? What kinds of cool demo tricks would we do? Break some boards? Maybe a self-defense demo with sticks and knives? These questions and more all raced through my mind as we finished up class that evening, before the "demo team" would meet.

The instructors brought in some long staffs, and we got ready. "I'll need a partner" the male instructor said, "to help demonstrate the Tinikling (teeh-NEEHK-lihng)."

Now, as a novice I had NO IDEA what in the world that was, but it just sounded deadly as hell and I wanted to learn it, so of course ran up up to volunteer.

"The Tinikling is based on the movements of birds known as tiklings." Guru John explained.

Sure, everyone knows how martial arts styles have copied animals, right? So I thought that maybe this was like a Filipino "crane-style" he was going to be showing us.

"Now crouch down and grab the other ends of these two poles." He ordered.

What kind of wild fighting technique was this? Staff groundfighting? And then what happens next?

"Now, hit the polls to the ground two times; and then together, you see?"

As we clacked the poles together on the third beat I caught my knuckles on the sticks. Ouch! This was a lesson in grip on the sticks and how to maneuver them while shifting the stick in your hand. Quickly one learns to keep the rhythm...1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2-3...and not smash their fingers!

Then the female instructor then came over an started dancing in between the sticks! I was worried! Wasn't she going to get her ankle caught in the sticks as we clacked them together? She sensed my nervousness and just laughed, "Now speed it up!"

And then things really got crazy!

Guru Tammy stepped out and told us to pay attention. She and and Guru John both picked up their pairs of rattan sticks. They started to do the siniwalli, the hypnotic weaving patterns with the double sticks, where both people strike the canes together. Again, the rhythm was 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2-3.

Then they told us to start the rhythm with the poles again, for the tinikling. They took up their places on the outside, and then proceeded to do the siniwalli while doing the steps of the tinikling! This was amazing! As they wove in and out between the poles, their sticks clacking loudly, the smell of burnt rattan filled the air.

Finally, they both stepped out with a spin, saluted each other and brought the dance to a close.

"Now it's your turn!" said Guru Tammy with a wink...

In the next two weeks I learned enough of the tinikling steps to be able to take part in the demo, and it was a fun, but the best part was seeing the real Filipino dancers that were there!

From the first moment they started to dance, their skill and grace was clearly evident. They had the flow which Professor Presas always spoke of. By comparison, I think we must have looked like mga baka (cattle) doing the tinikling instead of the fleet-footed birds the dance is supposed to emulate!

Some of the dances showed balance and fluidity, like the candle dance. Here the girls had small glass candles balanced on each palm and a third balanced on their head. Unlike some people I have seen doing this dance, these girls did not "cup" or in any way hold onto the candles with their fingers. They made a great point of keeping their palms flat and fingers outstretched. All the while they moved their arms in circles and figure-eights, like in KunTao, Silat, and Pa Kua Chang (Baguajang). They even had movements where they would kneel, then sit, then roll on the floor...all in a delicate "ladylike manner" and all without dropping the candles on their head and hands or spilling any wax!

There was also the Maglalatik (mahg-lah-lah-TIHK) or coconut dance, which seemed more obviously martial in application. The men came out in two groups, half in red pants and half in blue pants. Each was wearing a vest of 4 or 6 half coconut shells and holding a half-coconut in each hand, and they had more strapped onto their hips and thighs! What the heck was this all about???

As the music started, the men all kept the rhythm by hitting the shells in their hands together, and then hitting them into the shells on their chest and thighs. Then the two sides turned towards each other and started to strike the shells on each other's body. This was a trapping and boxing method hidden in a dance. They would hit shells in their hands and then on the body, taking turns as they developed parry and strike combinations and keeping the beat going.

Another dance had a funny section where the couples were facing each other. The boys all would step forward and go to kiss the girls on the cheek...but the girls would use a triangular evasion step and elbow shield (which was made to look "cute" by the performers, like brushing the hair) to get out of the way. Then they would both step back to their starting positions, and the boy would try to kiss her on the other cheek, only to have her slip away with the same evasion and counter to the other side. This was "Angle 1 and Angle 2 Defense Against Kissing!"

Part II
The Legend of a Bear who became a Tikling bird!
Flash forward several years from that night... I'm teaching Arnis to a small but dedicated group in Buffalo. These guys all came from different arts, so it was like a Kung Fu movie at times with the good-natured rivalry between them and between their styles ("You dare insult [Karate / Kung Fu / Judo, etc.], then you'll have to fight me!")

This particular night I am teaching the tinikling to them at the end of class. One of the students, Ed, was Filipino, and knew the tininkling from when he was a kid. The guys were "skeptical" to put it mildly. We got started and one by one the students worked their way through, until only one of them remained...Daryl the Bear!

Daryl was just about 330 lbs. with wrists so large most people couldn't reach around them with using both hands. He was a doorman at bars and strip-clubs in Buffalo and Fort Erie, and the girls all called him "the bear" too...well, not really...they all called him "teddy" and we knew this.

(We also knew he would murder us in our sleep if we ever called him "teddy"; so "bear" was as close as we could come to saying "that word" without saying it.)

In any case, he had been staring at the clacking poles with ever widening eyes and a clearly growing sense of apprehension. "Uh, do I have to do this?" he asked halfheartedly.

"Would you do it for a Scoobie Snack?" asked Ace, producing a cigarette.

"I'll about need it afterwards." said the Bear, as he started to dance...

I don't know quite what happened next. It might have been something about the heaving 330 pounds of stomping bear-bulk on a gymnastics floor, it might have been something about the look of serious determination on his face. It might have been the way he had his tongue stuck out sideways between his teeth...I don't know.

It was scary though, and we reacted as frightened men do...we fell down laughing.

But now the Bear was riled. "Well, pish-posh on you, fie and a pox*" he said. (Not his actual words, but you get the drift, right?)

Yes, the Bear was mad...but what he did next shocked me.

A few months later the boys were ready for their first level test. On it, among other things, was the tinikling. Just like learning how to count in Tagalog and knowing certain terms, I felt it was important to pass part of the culture on too.

The boys worked through their other requirements. Kicks, strikes, trapping, flow-drills, single stick, double stick, knife, anos (forms) and so on. As we got towards the end I wanted to give them a little break so I asked "Do you want to do tinikling next or go right to the sparring?"

"Tinikling!" said the Bear.

We laughed, but set up the poles, and like the last time people started to go through the steps. Unlike last time, since they were now tired, people did a little worse than the last time they had done this. Daryl just stared at the poles, seemingly transfixed by the rhythm. 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2-3.

Then his turn came, and what we saw amazed us!

As Daryl started into the tinikling, there were no "thundering hoof beats" on the floor. He moved nimbly and quickly. His balance was low but mobile so he didn't waste time in making his steps. They were not quicker than the other people's, but the timing and accuracy of weight shifting and stepping was better.

The Bear had been practicing!

And you know what? It showed!

He did a few fancy spins through and back, taking time on the outside to reset himself to the rhythm if need be, but he kept moving in time so it looked like he "meant to do it."

Then he stopped and said "OK...NOW let's do the sparring."

The Bear was mighty that night, and as we celebrated over many a drink later on I asked him how he had trained the tinikling. He told us he had been pissed-off that night so he decided to learn it. I guess when his stripper friends heard he was learning "some dance" they thought that was funny so they encouraged him, "Oh, show it to me!"

How could he resist?

That, and he basically just wanted to make us all "shut the hell up."

But somewhere in the distance we heard the tikling bird laughing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc8VqBb5xwU

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: March 07, 2007, 12:16:46 PM »
Whats up with Vera?  Sometime ago I read he was debating on leaving the UFC.

http://ufcjunkie.com/2006/12/15/brandon-vera-leaving-the-ufc/

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: March 05, 2007, 02:12:10 PM »
Good point about the positioning, Randy literally man handled Tim a couple of times, I mean he literally threw Tim on the ground a couple of times.
I think Tim as a person is a cool person, I saw him in walking in Waikiki once and he was really cool to the people that approached him, I just thought his matches werent as exciting as they could have been.  Imagine the respect he would be getting if he did manage to stop RC, Ill have to watch again but I dont recall TS using his jab or his "hunchedback" boxing shell.  I wonder if there will be a rematch and how will Tim fight a second time. Will Randy use the same head movement?

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Grandfathers Speak Vol. 2: Sonny Umpad
« on: March 05, 2007, 02:04:08 PM »
I love the part where Sonny is in the living room and the clips go back and forth between Sonny and Ilustrisimo and Sonny does that neat knee bump while the other guy is off balance and sends him flying.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: March 05, 2007, 01:05:11 PM »
I dont believe there are any rules that prohibit it... but perhaps he was just be "cautious" or maybe the heel kick could be misconstrued as a stomp?

Fouls:   
1.   Butting with the head.
2.   Eye gouging of any kind.
3.   Biting.
4.   Hair pulling.
5.   Fish hooking.
6.   Groin attacks of any kind.
7.   Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent.
8.   Small joint manipulation.
9.   Striking to the spine or the back of the head.
10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow.
11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea.
12. Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh.
13. Grabbing the clavicle.
14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent.
15. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
16. Stomping a grounded opponent.
17. Kicking to the kidney with the heel.
18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck.
19. Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area.
20. Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent.
21. Spitting at an opponent.
22. Engaging in an unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to an opponent.
23. Holding the ropes or the fence.
24. Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area.
25. Attacking an opponent on or during the break.
26. Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee.
27. Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
28. Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee.
29. Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury.
30. Interference by the corner.
31. Throwing in the towel during competition.


Ways To Win:    
1. Submission by:
           Physical tap out.
           Verbal tap out.
2. Technical knockout by the referee stopping the contest.
3. Decision via the scorecards, including:
           Unanimous decision.
           Split decision.
           Majority decision.
           Draw, including:
                  Unanimous draw.
                  Majority draw.
                  Split draw.
4. Technical decision.
5. Technical draw.
6. Disqualification.
7. Forfeit.
8. No contest.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: March 04, 2007, 12:31:36 AM »
Wow, Randy Couture dominated Tim Sylvia, great head movement. 
Im sure Tim Sylvia thought his reach would be enough....

Too bad May 5th is so far away... cant wait till Mayweather and De La Hoya meet but thats another thread..

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Calling all female fighters
« on: March 02, 2007, 05:45:25 PM »
Yep, it will defiinitely be interesting once she her conditioning gets better and her skills start improving.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Tippy-tappy drills-- threat or menace?
« on: March 01, 2007, 02:27:57 PM »
Maija,
Would this be an example of the pendulum footwork that you described?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjQIRgZHIjk

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