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Martial Arts Topics / Re: DBMA Kali Tudo (tm): The Running Dog Game
« on: June 25, 2009, 09:29:19 PM »
Not only does he review but he also blogged about his experience with training the material.

http://maxiitheblindwatchmaker.blogspot.com/2009/05/training-kali-tudotm-week-two.html

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: VIDEO CLIPS OF INTEREST
« on: June 19, 2009, 08:01:57 AM »
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From which island is that?

Guro Crafty, Let me dig and find that again believe it or not I found it via a search on Twitter.

**UPDATE**

Lucky me I found it quite easily. This is the site I found it on, it is in Spanish.

http://clubdelaeskrima.com/

Above the video it states:

Quote
Un sistema de Arnis-Eskrima realmente interesante por la utilización de la fuerza centrifuga.
Buenas Tecnicas de Sibat Tapado.Directas y funcionales en combate.
Un video de donde se puede aprender mucho.

I dont know if that helps but perhaps it will mention more within the site.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: VIDEO CLIPS OF INTEREST
« on: June 19, 2009, 03:19:22 AM »
Since someone mentioned staff.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6taemVZyTAE[/youtube]

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Security issues
« on: June 18, 2009, 10:47:17 PM »
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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) also has a very organized and well-connected security department that provides information and security advice and assistance to LDS congregations worldwide.

Interesting article, I had no idea the LDS church had such a dept.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: June 14, 2009, 10:29:45 PM »
WHEN was Mercer fighting?  It seems like QUITE a long time ago.  IIRC he came to boxing late in life, with little but lots of power and lots of chin and that his last several fights were quite hard on him.

Ray Mercer was a 1988 Olympian, entered boxing in 1989 and has been fighting on and off since then. Last boxing match was in 2008, Sweden.

Complete record here:
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=1620&cat=boxer

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: June 14, 2009, 07:47:55 PM »
WOW!!! That's all I can say!  Tim Sylvia got whooped by Ray Mercer!!! :?

http://www.mmalinker.com/xExternal.php?vidid=16788

Slow motion.

Even Kimbo didn't try to stand Toe 2 Toe.  Mercer has many years behind him as a Pro Boxer.


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Hopefully some of this material will make it onto a DBMA DVD  :-D

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Martial Arts Topics / Obama Now Wants Your Pocket Knife
« on: June 06, 2009, 04:42:00 AM »
http://www.pgnh.org/obama_now_wants_your_pocket_knife

 Obama Now Wants Your Pocket Knife
by Evan F. Nappen, Esq.

June 4, 2009

Beware! That folding knife in your pocket may turn you into a criminal if the Obama administration gets its way. Although there has been a lot of fear and speculation that the new administration wants to take your guns, the most pressing threat now is actually to your pocket knives. With the changing of the guard at U.S. Customs, that agency has now embarked on redefining "switchblades" under federal law to include a wide variety of one hand opening knives that never were intended to be prohibited. In fact, many of the knives U.S. Customs now seek to prohibit under the Federal Switchblade Law had not even been invented at the time of its enactment! Furthermore, four previous U.S. Customs ruling letters (prior administrations) specifically determined "assisted opening" knives not to be defined as switchblades.

This new proposed U.S. Customs regulation is so broad that thousands of pocket knives will fall under its sweep and millions of knife owners will be affected. The problem is not simply that imports will be banned (which is bad enough), but that the "agency determination" will be used by domestic courts and law enforcement to determine what a "switchblade" is under both federal and state laws. Many states, including New Hampshire, fail to define switchblades and simply rely on the federal definition.

Luckily, the two premiere knife organizations in the US, American Knife and Tool Institute (AKTI) and Kniferights.org, are fighting hard on this issue, but they both need your immediate help. Customs is attempting to jam this new regulation though at record speed.

As stated on the www.kniferights.org website:

    U.S. Customs has proposed revoking earlier rulings that assisted opening knives are not switchblades. The proposed new rule would not only outlaw assisted opening knives its broad definition could also easily be interpreted to include one-handed opening knives and even most other pocket knives.

    Note that customs interpretation of the Federal Switchblade Act forms the basis for national, state and even local law and judicial rulings in many cases. The effect is NOT limited to just imports.

As stated on the www.akti.org website:

    URGENT NEWS - U.S. Customs Proposal would characterize assisted-openers as switchblade knives and jeopardize all pocket knives.  On behalf of the entire sporting knife industry and knife owners across the country, AKTI will be filing an official response to U.S. Customs.   

This is the biggest threat to American knife owners in U.S. history. AKTI informs us that this "Customs' proposal will make criminal out of 35.6 million Americans."

AKTI further states:

    U.S. Customs proposes to bypass Congress and expand the switchblade definition to include all knives that open with one hand. These include multi-tools, traditional pocket knives, one-hand openers, and assisted-openers.
    More than 35.6 million law-abiding Americans now own one-hand-openingknives in one of the above four categories.

The U.S. Customs proposed new rule and the four prior letters they want to overturn can be read in their entirety here: http://www.akti.org/PDFS/U.S.CustomsProposedRuling.pdf

AKTI suggests that to register your opposition to the U.S. Customs'plan (19  CFR  Part 177) to re-classify assisted openers and all folding knives; address your comments by June 21, 2009, to:

    19  CFR  Part 177
    U.S. Customs and Border Protection
    Office of International Trade, Regulations and Rulings
    Attention: Intellectual Property and Restricted Merchandise Branch
    Mint Annex,   799 Ninth St. N.W.
    Washington, D.C.  20229

 

 

 

 

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Concord, NH 03301-4809
Tel. (603)226-PGNH [226-7464]

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: June 02, 2009, 06:15:08 PM »
http://sherdog.com/news/news/update-tuf-takes-slice-17739

“Kimbo Slice” will be among the 16 heavyweight fighters to join the 10th season of “The Ultimate Fighter,” which starts shooting this week in Las Vegas.



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Martial Arts Topics / Re: tennis elbows in kali
« on: May 17, 2009, 10:24:35 PM »
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Well, the new agey guys snored me before I could get to the end, but the Doczac guy is dead on with one of what I believe to be the two principal patterns to look for.

Yeah.. I thought I would throw him into the mix.  There are a lot of clips on youtube.

This was interesting too but it looks to be addressed to someone specific.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy2mTLC7VoM[/youtube]

This is the PDF file the guy in the video references, he provided more info within the comments section, it is an article "An exercise programme for the management of lateral elbow tendinopathy" from the British Journal of Sports Medicine.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1725102&blobtype=pdf




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Martial Arts Topics / Re: tennis elbows in kali
« on: May 17, 2009, 10:26:28 AM »
These look interesting too.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zKl8GFfLcc[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RhtJMwxok8[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0_StUy2cIU[/youtube]


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Martial Arts Topics / Re: tennis elbows in kali
« on: May 17, 2009, 10:06:47 AM »
There are some clips on youtube for exercises \ treatment, I have yet to try them as I was looking up the exercises last night.
Im sure taking some fish oil for the inflammation may help too.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD94iNWFMDo[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eQA3Igex6A[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dqAAveeCmM[/youtube]

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: home made equipment
« on: May 01, 2009, 08:03:05 AM »
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As I remember Sonny telling it, this footwork was traditionally practiced on a large cross section (approx 4") piece of bamboo cut in half on the ground - Sonny would use a 2x4.
It looks like Chris has expanded on this concept by combining the 2x4 with the X that Sonny always had drawn out on the floor of his living room.
More than that would be telling ... wink cheesy

Ah cool, it looks like a fun training "device" just think of the fun you could have by you adding the pendulum ball like J does in one of his clips.

BTW
I googled Chris Charnos' just to see if he had some more clips or info about his training with Sonny and apparently he fought out of AMC Pankration \ Matt Humes gym AND he was Josh Barnett's 1st Professional Opponent.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: home made equipment
« on: April 30, 2009, 03:49:51 PM »
Quote
Interesting piece of equipment for training footwork and balance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bH5HcpgAxU

You beat me to the punch Maija. LOL.

I met Chris Charnos years ago, I think it was at the Sonny Umpad seminar that Kelly Worden hosted. 
I believe Chris was also a student of Jesse Glover too but I could be wrong. 

Any insight about that piece of equiptment Maija?

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: April 20, 2009, 02:02:13 PM »
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it is possible the fans were booing leites' buttflopping instead

Possibly, but even Dana White had something negative to say. 

Hopefully a friend recorded the fight on their DVR.

‘Spider’ Bites

For the second time in as many appearances, middleweight champion Anderson Silva finds himself under heavy scrutiny from fans and the media. Not even White, one of his most ardent supporters, could look past his performance in a lackluster five-round decision win against Thales Leites at UFC 97.

“I wasn’t thrilled with it,” said White, who later hinted at challenging the champion with a return to the 205-pound division. “I did not like the fight at all -- on either side.”

Silva moved into the record books as he passed UFC hall of famer Royce Gracie and welterweight contender Jon Fitch for most consecutive victories inside the Octagon with his ninth. The 34-year-old Brazilian has won 10 straight bouts overall. Still, he wound up on the defensive after his triumph over Leites.

Photo by Sherdog.com

Fans chanted for GSP at UFC 97.
“I go out there and train to try and be efficient and have a perfect fight,” Silva said. “Not every fight is going to be a knockout. Not every fight is going to be a spectacular finish. What I trained to do, I felt like I executed in there. He wasn’t able to execute his game, and I was able to do mine. I walked away with the victory and the belt still.”

Silva was visibly flustered by the negative reaction he received but remained diplomatic in the face of criticism.

“I’m comfortable with people’s opinions,” he said. “People have a right to their own opinions. I was unable to finish. Sometimes, I’m able to finish guys; sometimes, I’m not able to. I proved to everybody I can go five rounds and I’m in good shape.”

White addressed a potential showdown between Silva and current welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre, who will defend his belt against Brazilian bomber Thiago Alves at UFC 100 on July 11 in Las Vegas. Chants of “GSP! GSP!” rang out during the Silva-Leites match.

“Everybody’s chanting GSP,” White said. “GSP has probably the toughest fight of his career coming up. Do not overlook Thiago Alves. That’s going to be a very hard fight for him. Georges St. Pierre can’t start looking at Anderson Silva until he gets past Thiago Alves.”

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: I'm in Hawaii
« on: April 17, 2009, 02:34:15 AM »
You can catch the UFC @ Roundtable Pizza on the conrer of Kuhio & Kaiulani in Waikiki, there might be more in Waikiki but I'm not sure.
If you want to venture further then you can go to Red Lions or perhaps the varsity in the University District. 

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: I'm in Hawaii
« on: April 16, 2009, 01:32:28 AM »
According to the Onzuka Brothers:

http://www.onzuka.com/acadmain.html

Relson Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Main Academy
844 Queen Street, 2nd Floor
Honolulu, Hawaii 96813
(808) 589-2524
(808) 589-1592 Fax
Email: gracie@aloha.com
URL: http://www.relsongracie.com

Main Academy Hours & Fees Call the academy at (808) 589-2524 for updated class schedules & fees


The main academy is located on the second floor of the Mosler building on Queen Street.  If you are traveling east on the H-1 Freeway you can take the Kinau Street exit and take a left onto Ward Avenue.  Then take a right onto Queen Street, one block after the Blaisdell Arena (which is on your right). If you are traveling west on the H-1 Freeway, you can take the Lunalilo Highway exit. Take a left on Pensacola, then take a right on Kapiolani Blvd. Blaisdell Arena will be on your left, at that stop light, take a left Ward Avenue, and a right on Queen Street. The academy will be on your right side.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: VIDEO CLIPS OF INTEREST
« on: March 29, 2009, 04:52:37 AM »
Finally the trailer comes out and the movie will be release October 19th. 
I cant wait to take my boys to see this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NOkQ4dYVaM

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: The Physics of a stick strike
« on: March 24, 2009, 10:11:26 PM »
Does this help?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH309YwzxsY[/youtube]

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: VIDEO CLIPS OF INTEREST
« on: March 20, 2009, 03:26:12 PM »
Guro Crafty have you ever had the chance to witness while traveling \ teaching in Mexico?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8kxox_big-mexican-punchup_sport

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: KALI TUDO (tm) Article
« on: March 17, 2009, 03:46:00 PM »
 :mrgreen:  Looking forward to the knowledge that comes from the footage.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Rest in Peace
« on: March 16, 2009, 11:12:58 AM »
GM Roland Dantes passed away this weekend.  I met him at a BBQ years ago.
He was handing out food and making sure everyone had enough to eat when it should have been the other way around.

Aloha GM Dantes, till we meet again.

Robert

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Team Dog Brothers MMA?
« on: February 26, 2009, 06:11:44 PM »
Interesting article, I also posted this in the MMA thread.  I believe that DBMA has high standards for its members and with TUF showing de-evolution I think the DBMA TV Show would be great for for taking a higher road with its fighters.

http://sherdog.com/news/articles/mayeda-examines-mmas-role-in-society-16313

Wednesday, February 25, 2009
by Danny Acosta

16313
Fights inside and outside the cage and ring fall under the mixed martial arts umbrella. For David Mayeda, MMA has become as much about responsibility as excitement.

The “human cockfighting” phrase still reverberates, despite support from mainstream advertisers like Nike, Bud Light and Microsoft. Mayeda, who earned his PhD in American Studies from the University of Hawaii, set out to explore MMA’s place in society in 2005 after coming to know the sport through “The Ultimate Fighter” reality series.

“I knew, even though I was seduced by mixed martial arts as a fan, it potentially could have differing effects on society in terms of violence,” said Mayeda, who has placed his academic focus on violence prevention geared toward youth.

“Fighting for Acceptance: Mixed Martial Artists and Violence in American Society” was published in February 2008. Mayeda took his theses from print to film when he directed, co-produced and narrated the documentary “MMA 808: Inside Hawaii’s Fight Game,” which was later derived from his book.

“I’m going to stick to my assertion that because MMA is the closest thing to the complete sport of fighting, it holds -- the sport as a whole holds -- a broader social responsibility,” he said. “That overlap between MMA and street school or domestic violence is the most striking concern for me socially. I’d like to see the MMA community take a broader responsibility in distancing the sport from those types of violence and sending out the right social messages to prevent those types of violence.”

MMA enthusiasts charge Mayeda with taking the sport backward by acknowledging its warts. Detractors, on the other hand, view him as an apologist.

The Hawaiian recognizes reluctance to be honest about the sport because of the obstacles it has had to overcome to become accepted in the mainstream. If the UFC applies its marketing muscle to social issues, it can make a visible impact, according to Mayeda. He was pleased with UFC Fight Night 16 “Fight for the Troops” in December and hopes the show serves as the first step in significant social involvement.

Balance between violence and the “feel good” story seems paramount, and the former high school football player points to the NFL as a potential model for the UFC. That organization -- the most popular and powerful professional sports entity in America -- also walks arm-in-arm with violence.

“They have really strong charitable organizations that they promote during their commercials during their games,” Mayeda said.

Responsibility does not rest solely with the UFC. If an MMA promotion can profit from a community, it can give back to it, as well. Mayeda offered one startling example of MMA doing its best to curb violence. In Kailua, Hawaii, more than a year ago, a man beat his ex-girlfriend to death with the butt of his gun. MMA Hawaii executives who run MMA Hawaii Magazine and mmahawaii.com recognized the perpetrator as one of the spectators at an event they sponsored.

Photo courtesy of MMAHawaii.com

Kala Kolohe Hose
and the HSCADV.
In response, MMA Hawaii initiated partnerships with the Hawaii State Coalition Against Domestic Violence and Mothers Against Drunk Driving. MMA Hawaii Magazine also enlisted Icon Sport middleweight champion Kala Hose and had him pose with his daughter under the caption: “You love your daughter. You want to give her the world. Start by treating her mother with respect. Real fighters keep it in the ring.” Mayeda thinks responsible fighters should speak out against domestic violence, drunken driving, substance abuse and other social ailments more often.

Even with island MMA in recovery after the extended absence of Rumble on the Rock and Icon Sport -- Mayeda believes MMA was more popular in 2001 than it is now -- ads like the one involving Hose do more than educate fans; they educate lawmakers, too. It frustrates Mayeda that similar campaigns are not already fixtures in the sport.

“I think those icons need to be pushed, not just as athletes but as humanitarians, as well,” he said. “I think that can do a lot to change the culture of mixed martial arts.”

Mayeda thinks MMA has the power to use its popularity to bring about positive change. He and Antonio McKee -- a former International Fight League standout who also works with children in his community -- agree that youth violence prevention programs involving MMA appeal to at-risk kids because it provides a release through which they can draw on their physical abilities. However, advancing the culture of MMA has many obstacles, and one -- “The Ultimate Fighter” -- stands out above all the rest.

Each installment of the Spike TV reality series brings promising talent to the UFC. What happens along the way perturbs Mayeda. The fights may not be official, but UFC President Dana White’s presence -- along with prominent fighters serving as coaches -- makes the show a representation of the UFC, in particular, and MMA, in general. It has a heavy influence on first impressions.

“They already have the [male] 20- and 30-something demographic kind of hooked,” Mayeda said. “So I don’t know that ‘The Ultimate Fighter’ is bringing new fans from that demographic. They need to be reaching out to an older demographic, men and women.”

Mayeda sees it as a tug-of-war between long-term investment and a shortsighted play for ratings and cash. He points again to the NFL, which puts together family-friendly events despite the inherent violence associated with football. MMA role models abound, according to Mayeda.

“[Rosi Sexton has] a 2-year-old child and [is an] 8-1 mixed martial artist with a PhD,” he said.

Mayeda now watches traditional MMA programming as he continues his advocacy for a sport still struggling to find its identity. The more he speaks out, the more criticism he receives. His is a thankless job. Mayeda no longer watches “The Ultimate Fighter,” even though it brought him to MMA. He suggests Junie Allen Browning’s antics on the most recent season countered the UFC’s efforts to keep negative images -- like the infamous Noah Thomas-Marlon Sims street fight on season five -- under wraps. Mixed signals are being sent.

“It’s hard to reconcile that inconsistency,” Mayeda said. “It’s like ‘Jackass’ the movie for the series. They’re really helping to create that ambiance. I just don’t understand anymore. They should have learned from TUF 1. They’re not evolving. They’re devolving.”

Mayeda wants MMA to borrow from traditional martial arts. Teach it for discipline, self defense and self-esteem building. Teach younger students more grappling than striking. Build family relationships and educational goals.

“Those are the things that martial arts schools are known for doing,” he said. “If MMA schools can capture that identity and really pursue those goals, it’ll have a much easier time gaining acceptance across the country.”

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: February 26, 2009, 06:05:08 PM »
http://sherdog.com/news/articles/mayeda-examines-mmas-role-in-society-16313

Wednesday, February 25, 2009
by Danny Acosta

16313
Fights inside and outside the cage and ring fall under the mixed martial arts umbrella. For David Mayeda, MMA has become as much about responsibility as excitement.

The “human cockfighting” phrase still reverberates, despite support from mainstream advertisers like Nike, Bud Light and Microsoft. Mayeda, who earned his PhD in American Studies from the University of Hawaii, set out to explore MMA’s place in society in 2005 after coming to know the sport through “The Ultimate Fighter” reality series.

“I knew, even though I was seduced by mixed martial arts as a fan, it potentially could have differing effects on society in terms of violence,” said Mayeda, who has placed his academic focus on violence prevention geared toward youth.

“Fighting for Acceptance: Mixed Martial Artists and Violence in American Society” was published in February 2008. Mayeda took his theses from print to film when he directed, co-produced and narrated the documentary “MMA 808: Inside Hawaii’s Fight Game,” which was later derived from his book.

“I’m going to stick to my assertion that because MMA is the closest thing to the complete sport of fighting, it holds -- the sport as a whole holds -- a broader social responsibility,” he said. “That overlap between MMA and street school or domestic violence is the most striking concern for me socially. I’d like to see the MMA community take a broader responsibility in distancing the sport from those types of violence and sending out the right social messages to prevent those types of violence.”

MMA enthusiasts charge Mayeda with taking the sport backward by acknowledging its warts. Detractors, on the other hand, view him as an apologist.

The Hawaiian recognizes reluctance to be honest about the sport because of the obstacles it has had to overcome to become accepted in the mainstream. If the UFC applies its marketing muscle to social issues, it can make a visible impact, according to Mayeda. He was pleased with UFC Fight Night 16 “Fight for the Troops” in December and hopes the show serves as the first step in significant social involvement.

Balance between violence and the “feel good” story seems paramount, and the former high school football player points to the NFL as a potential model for the UFC. That organization -- the most popular and powerful professional sports entity in America -- also walks arm-in-arm with violence.

“They have really strong charitable organizations that they promote during their commercials during their games,” Mayeda said.

Responsibility does not rest solely with the UFC. If an MMA promotion can profit from a community, it can give back to it, as well. Mayeda offered one startling example of MMA doing its best to curb violence. In Kailua, Hawaii, more than a year ago, a man beat his ex-girlfriend to death with the butt of his gun. MMA Hawaii executives who run MMA Hawaii Magazine and mmahawaii.com recognized the perpetrator as one of the spectators at an event they sponsored.

Photo courtesy of MMAHawaii.com

Kala Kolohe Hose
and the HSCADV.
In response, MMA Hawaii initiated partnerships with the Hawaii State Coalition Against Domestic Violence and Mothers Against Drunk Driving. MMA Hawaii Magazine also enlisted Icon Sport middleweight champion Kala Hose and had him pose with his daughter under the caption: “You love your daughter. You want to give her the world. Start by treating her mother with respect. Real fighters keep it in the ring.” Mayeda thinks responsible fighters should speak out against domestic violence, drunken driving, substance abuse and other social ailments more often.

Even with island MMA in recovery after the extended absence of Rumble on the Rock and Icon Sport -- Mayeda believes MMA was more popular in 2001 than it is now -- ads like the one involving Hose do more than educate fans; they educate lawmakers, too. It frustrates Mayeda that similar campaigns are not already fixtures in the sport.

“I think those icons need to be pushed, not just as athletes but as humanitarians, as well,” he said. “I think that can do a lot to change the culture of mixed martial arts.”

Mayeda thinks MMA has the power to use its popularity to bring about positive change. He and Antonio McKee -- a former International Fight League standout who also works with children in his community -- agree that youth violence prevention programs involving MMA appeal to at-risk kids because it provides a release through which they can draw on their physical abilities. However, advancing the culture of MMA has many obstacles, and one -- “The Ultimate Fighter” -- stands out above all the rest.

Each installment of the Spike TV reality series brings promising talent to the UFC. What happens along the way perturbs Mayeda. The fights may not be official, but UFC President Dana White’s presence -- along with prominent fighters serving as coaches -- makes the show a representation of the UFC, in particular, and MMA, in general. It has a heavy influence on first impressions.

“They already have the [male] 20- and 30-something demographic kind of hooked,” Mayeda said. “So I don’t know that ‘The Ultimate Fighter’ is bringing new fans from that demographic. They need to be reaching out to an older demographic, men and women.”

Mayeda sees it as a tug-of-war between long-term investment and a shortsighted play for ratings and cash. He points again to the NFL, which puts together family-friendly events despite the inherent violence associated with football. MMA role models abound, according to Mayeda.

“[Rosi Sexton has] a 2-year-old child and [is an] 8-1 mixed martial artist with a PhD,” he said.

Mayeda now watches traditional MMA programming as he continues his advocacy for a sport still struggling to find its identity. The more he speaks out, the more criticism he receives. His is a thankless job. Mayeda no longer watches “The Ultimate Fighter,” even though it brought him to MMA. He suggests Junie Allen Browning’s antics on the most recent season countered the UFC’s efforts to keep negative images -- like the infamous Noah Thomas-Marlon Sims street fight on season five -- under wraps. Mixed signals are being sent.

“It’s hard to reconcile that inconsistency,” Mayeda said. “It’s like ‘Jackass’ the movie for the series. They’re really helping to create that ambiance. I just don’t understand anymore. They should have learned from TUF 1. They’re not evolving. They’re devolving.”

Mayeda wants MMA to borrow from traditional martial arts. Teach it for discipline, self defense and self-esteem building. Teach younger students more grappling than striking. Build family relationships and educational goals.

“Those are the things that martial arts schools are known for doing,” he said. “If MMA schools can capture that identity and really pursue those goals, it’ll have a much easier time gaining acceptance across the country.”

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Grandfathers Speak Vol. 2: Sonny Umpad
« on: February 25, 2009, 01:45:25 PM »
The pics of Maestro Sonny and me are from Dieter Knuetel (sp?) and Alfred Plath's big shindig several years ago in Dusseldorf Germany (A "20 masters under one roof for one weekend" sort of thing).    Great fun!  Given the nature of such an event, it was expenses only for us and Germany is a long trip from Los Angeles.  I can honestly say that seeing that Maestro Sonny would be there was the key factor in my decision to go.  I had heard rumors that intrigued me and made sure to schedule my day so that I could check him out.

He recognized me and was very kind and gracious.  A very gentle demeanor.  His "pendulum" training method is conceptually quite similar to our "metronome" and so we were able to achieve a base level of training rapport quite quickly.  He gracefully and effortlessly established some serious angles on me.  The amount of distance he could glide was quite amazing.  When we did knife he did standard grip reverse edge-- which I had never before experienced in the hands of someone who knew what he was doing.  :-o

I asked if he would teach me and he laughed and said he would rather exchange techniques.  I think I may have blushed a tad. :lol:
He gave me his address, but in one of the larger stupidities of my life I failed to follow up.  I was in LA and he was in Oakland and as the years went by it was always "I'll get to this next month". :cry:

I got word of his lung cancer from one of his students.  In such a moment one wants to be sure to not intrude or be the ghoul, and at the same time, it is a last opportunity.  I had his student ask if he would be interested in doing a Grandfathers 2 with us and was informed he was quite eager to begin.

Things were set up and Ron "Night Owl" Gabriel and I drove up.  As we entered his living room/training hall, I was moved to see that he had a picture of the two of us together in Dusseldorf.

It was a very special day as is students came to perform for him one last time.

Maestro Sonny's dignity and composure throughout the day moved me greatly-- off the top of my head I cannot think of a greater lesson than that.

The Adventure continues, , ,
Crafty Dog

That must have been hella cool Guro.   Sometimes when I feel like putting something off til tomorrow I am reminded by the blog that Tom Furman put up in titled "There is no tomorrow!"
http://physicalstrategies.blogspot.com/2007/01/there-is-no-tomorrow.html

Now excuse while I go do something that I have been putting off, LOL. 

Also wanted to say thanks for documenting one of the greats.

Also a shout out to Maija and Eddy of course for sharing some knowledge while we were visiting in LA.

Aloha.


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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Grandfathers Speak Vol. 2: Sonny Umpad
« on: February 25, 2009, 01:41:23 PM »
Speaking of The Grandfathers. I have read articles that Floro Villabrille could pull nails out of 2x4's making a sound similar to a gunshot, and also had the abilitiy to peel coconuts with his bare hands! Does anybody here thinks that possible, or can anyone confirm these feats.

I do not know the answer offhand but I believe there are a few people around Hawaii who may have a clue.  I was told that Floro Villabrille and Braulio Pedoy used to train together but it would always be in private. Oh to be a mongoose in the banana patch during those sessions.  :-D

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Grandfathers Speak Vol. 2: Sonny Umpad
« on: February 24, 2009, 03:51:25 PM »
Great pics! Is there a cool story to share behind it too? I know Guro Crafty said that he first met Sonny in Germany, Im assuming the pics are from then?

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: February 06, 2009, 09:25:59 AM »
Glenn Danzig  :?   Bad joke..

I like watching Mac Danzig fight, he started to irk me during the TUF show but now that he isnt trapped inside a house he seems to have lightened up.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: February 06, 2009, 12:50:49 AM »
Uh oh.... Just in from BJ's site ... will it happen?

BJ Penn accepts GSP and Greg Jackson’s challenge
# Posted by BJ PENN on February 5, 2009 at 10:29pm

For the past several days I have been reading statements made by St. Pierre and Greg Jackson about our fight on January 31. St. Pierre claims that he is “not a cheater” and that he and Greg Jackson will have “no problem with a rematch in the summer of 2009.” To the untrained eye the grease might not look like much, but every grappler knows the effect that it has. Being able to apply your submissions and sweeps or just being able to hold on to your opponent to defend yourself from being hit is absolutely critical! There is a reason why you are not allowed to put grease anywhere on your body except for the area around your eyes. Because of the grease applied to St.Pierre’s Body the Nevada State Athletic Commission’s executive director, Keith Kizer has stated that the Penn-St. Pierre fight “definitely wasn’t fair”. I hereby accept George St. Pierre and Greg Jackson’s challenge for a fight in the summer 2009. Lets call Dana now and set it up.

- BJ Penn

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Knife Law
« on: February 04, 2009, 12:51:58 PM »
Whoa... I didn't see that? WTH?

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: February 04, 2009, 11:12:03 AM »
Arvloski to box?

http://www.cagepotato.com/arlovski-signs-golden-boy-will-box-next-and-why-not

Following his knockout loss to Fedor Emelianenko at Affliction: Day of Reckoning, Andrei Arlovski has signed with Golden Boy Promotions and will begin his career as a boxer, reports FightHype.com. 

You may recall that Arlovski’s trainer, Freddie Roach, said he’d like to see Arlovski take on heavyweight boxing champ Nikolai Valuev if he was victorious against Fedor.  Of course, he wasn’t, so maybe Valuev won’t be Arlovski’s first opponent, which is probably just as well.  But whoever he does face in the boxing ring, at least he won’t be tempted to try another flying knee.

If you’re Arlovski this move makes perfect sense right now.  Having lost to Fedor, there’s no immediately obvious opponent for him outside the UFC ranks.  He’s already beaten Ben Rothwell and Roy Nelson, Josh Barnett has the next shot at Fedor (though it won’t happen until the summer, at the earliest), so why not put on some bigger gloves and find out whether Roach really knows a boxing diamond in the rough when he sees it?

The upside for MMA fans is we get to see someone from our world match his skills against a real boxer.  We’ve all heard about how superior their striking is for so long, wouldn’t it be nice to find out the old-fashioned way?  Not to mention, this could actually get people to care about boxing’s heavyweight division again, at least for a little while.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: February 04, 2009, 09:27:31 AM »
Quote
IF at any point DURING the match BJ thought that there was a problem, he could have made it clear to the ref.
He didn't.
This looks rather unprofessional.

I think BJ was too busy getting hit to notice or wonder what was going on and if I read everything right, it was a member of the NSAC who noticed it first. Ill go back and read but the fact that someone from the commission had to jump up during the fight and wipe GSP off seems unprofessional to me.  IT may have not changed the outcome and the better man won but let not ignore the fact that what the corner man did was wrong.

If you watch Dana's video blog he's already pissed at the end of the match and asks Rashad Evans about that the vaseline.

Im not here to say BJ would have won if it wasn't for the vaseline, it's just a shame that GSP victory may be tainted.

Even Matt Hughes stated GSP felt greasy
http://www.cagepotato.com/it-had-happen-matt-hughes-says-gsp-%E2%80%9Cfelt-greasy%E2%80%9D

But then again you have to take it with a grain of sale since Matt Hughes lost.  Im not sure when that article came out I cant find the date, and like the article says maybe it is a chance to dig at GSP since he lost.

The following article lists others with complaints about someone being greased up.

http://www.mmatorch.com/artman2/publish/Staff_Editorials_19/article_1931.shtml

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: February 03, 2009, 05:54:42 PM »
Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Director Keith Kizer today reported today that an improper application of Vaseline to St. Pierre's back by his cornermen has already merited a stern warning from the commission, and further actions may follow.

"There was no need for it," Kizer said of the incident in question. "It was disturbing. Where it goes from here, if anything, I don't know."

"The first round, one of the inspectors that was on the outside of the cage came over to me and said it looked to him that when the cornerman, who I think in that case was Phil Nurse, put the Vaseline on Georges' face then rubbed his shoulders -- which you see the guys rubbing the other guy's shoulders to help him out -- he didn't wipe off his hands between doing that. I said, 'Well, I'm going to watch very closely after this round.'"

"At the end of the second round I watched, and then another cornerman who I believe was Greg Jackson, he put the Vaseline on Georges' face, and then he put his hand on his back to do the breathing thing they always do. As soon as I saw that, it looked like there was still some Vaseline on his hand. Not a lot, but still some."

"Tony Liano and I immediately yelled at him, and I don't think he heard us because of the noise. So I actually went into the octagon, and I said, 'Take your hand off of his back. What are you doing?' We wiped it down. We made sure it was wiped down after the third round as well. This was after the second when I was in there. I was very upset. I don't know if they were doing it intentionally or not. Either way, they shouldn't have done it."

"I came out of the octagon and explained to the commissioner what I saw. I also motioned toward (UFC President) Dana (White) and (UFC co-owner) Lorenzo (Fertitta) so they'd know what I was doing in there. After the fight, actually both Mr. White and Mr. Fertitta both commented on how they're not sure whether those guys need to corner any other UFC (events) ever again. I leave that to them from a company standpoint. We'll deal with it from a commission standpoint."

"It wasn't necessary, it definitely wasn't fair to Mr. Penn. I don't think it was even fair to Mr. St. Pierre."

"His cornerman should have been more careful if it was an accident. If it was intentional, that's even worse. Just very, very disturbing."

"I found out this morning -- I talked with another inspector of mine -- he said that apparently B.J. Penn had complained to the inspector in his corner after either the first or second round that he though maybe Georges was a little slippery. I found that out this morning. At the same time he was complaining we were actually handling the situation in Georges' corner. It's just unfortunate."

"It wasn't like [St. Pierre's cornerman's] hand was covered in Vaseline, but he went directly from the face to the shoulders. By itself it's not a problem, but if there was still some Vaseline residue on, which there very well could have been, you've got to be more careful than that."

"Again, I don't know if that was a trick they were trying to play on us or not, but regardless, it's improper. We took the action we did after the second and third round."

"If they do file something, we'll obviously deal with it in due course. Whether or not the commission wants to do anything on their own initiative, other than what we've already done, obviously, in giving them a very, very stern warning, (I don't know)."

"Anytime you have disciplinary action, it could involve a suspension. It could involve a fine. It could involve a revocation. But it's a little premature to be talking about that."

"They can definitely file a complaint against the cornerman, but that's probably it. I don't know. We'll see. I don't see any basis to protest the decision, but you can definitely complain against the actions of the cornerman."

"My understanding is there's four ways you can overturn a decision. There's a scoring error. There's some sort of collusion; you know, someone paid off a judge, etc. The third is a positive drug test, and the fourth is the referee misinterpreted the rules. For example if you had the old boxing rule of three knockdowns in a round and after the third knockdown the referee says, 'Hey the fighter's fine. He can continue,' and he ends up winning the fight, you can overturn it then because the referee misinterpreted the rules. So I don't see any basis here."

"The example I give is Gaylord Perry of the (San Diego) Padres back in the day was known for putting Vaseline on the ball. The umpires did their best. Let's say it's the eighth inning and his team is up 10-0, he's throwing a shutout, and they find out on some pitch that he put Vaseline on the ball. They take action against him, but that wouldn't invalidate the rest of the game, although you could argue maybe he used it on every pitch and got this 10-run lead."

"But again, the Penns have the right to file whatever they're going to file, and we'd look into it and see if there is any basis for whatever they asked for."

"We wiped [St. Pierre] down very, very hard and even after the end of the third round, even though there was no touching of his back with Vaseline, we still wiped him down again after that round, too, just to be safe. You do the best you can to make it back to an even playing field and go from there."

"And I did tell the cornermen that if we ever see this again, that's it for them. I don't know the outcome of this specific incident, but we definitely gave them a warning that if we ever see that happen again that's probably the last time they'd be cornering in Nevada. As far as cornering in the UFC elsewhere, I'll leave that to the owners of the UFC."

"It's just an unfortunate incident. No fight needs it, especially a fight of this caliber."

"The fans can make their own conclusions on what they felt from their aspect. They saw what I saw for the most part based on some of the .gifs (small video clips) out there showing what happened.

"This may have tainted [St. Pierre's] victory in the eyes of many fans, and it's his cornerman's fault for that. It doesn't take away his victory, but it does take away from his victory in the eyes of many fans, I believe."

(source: mmajunkie.com)

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: February 03, 2009, 12:03:26 AM »
NSAC Comments:

Monday, February 02, 2009
by Brian Knapp (bknapp@sherdog.com)

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The sweat had not yet dried when accusations began to fly against welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre after his lopsided victory against B.J. Penn in the UFC 94 main event on Saturday at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

Not long after his win, St. Pierre and his corner, including trainer Greg Jackson, came under fire for allegedly using a “greasing” agent between rounds. Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Director Keith Kizer on Monday confirmed improprieties had occurred in the champion’s corner after the first and second rounds.

“After the first round, one of my inspectors came to me and told me he thought he saw one of the cornermen -- I believe it was Phil Nurse … after putting Vaseline on [St. Pierre’s] face, he saw him rub his shoulders, and it appeared as though he might not have wiped off his hands,” Kizer said. “After the second round, we observed Mr. Jackson putting Vaseline on Mr. St. Pierre’s face and then putting his hand on his back.”

At that point, Kizer attempted to get Jackson’s attention from outside the cage.

“I don’t think he heard me because of all the noise in the arena, so I immediately walked into the Octagon myself -- I’ve probably done that two other times in my career -- and told him to take his hand off Mr. St. Pierre’s back,” he said. “We took a towel and wiped off his back. After the third round, we went in again and made sure his back and shoulders were wiped off to ensure a level playing field.”

Kizer informed Penn’s camp of the situation after the bout ended. Penn’s manager and brother, J.D., told Sherdog.com on Sunday that the Hawaiian’s camp planned to file a complaint with the NSAC, but, as of Monday afternoon, Kizer had not heard from Penn’s representatives. Penn has 10 days to file.

Nevertheless, Kizer admonished Jackson and Nurse after the match.

“I told them I was disappointed and that they may have tainted Mr. St. Pierre’s victory,” he said. “I told them if it happens again, it will probably be the last time they work a corner in Nevada. Basically, they said, ‘Look, we’re sorry. We’re not trying to do anything. It was an accident.’ Whether it was intentional or not, I don’t know. It was improper.”

According to St. Pierre’s trainer, Greg Jackson, the controversy surrounding the bout has been blown out of proportion. Jackson addressed the accusations on the Monday edition of the Savage Dog Show on the Sherdog Radio Network.

“The controversy came because people didn’t know what they were looking at,” he said. “Steve Friend, ‘The Witch Doctor,’ he works with a ton of these guys, and he has this energy stuff [he does]. In between rounds, Phil [Nurse] put Vaseline on Georges’ head; then he’s supposed to reach around and rub something or tap something … I don’t know how it exactly works. On the outside, it looks like, ‘Why is he rubbing his back?’ And you don’t know why. ‘Oh, he’s putting Vaseline on. That’s got to be it.’”

St. Pierre punished Penn for four rounds, as he took him down numerous times and passed his guard with unthinkable ease. By the end of the fourth -- after Penn had absorbed a lethal dose of ground-and-pound -- the Hawaiian’s corner motioned to the cage-side doctor to stop the fight.

“On B.J.’s side, you just got beat, and you got beat pretty well,” Jackson said. “You gotta have something to hold onto. There’s gotta be a reason I got beat. They have to hold onto something, and I think they’re holding onto this.”

Jackson -- who also trains UFC light heavyweight champion Rashad Evans -- vehemently denies any intentional wrongdoing took place in the corner in between rounds.

“We certainly don’t need to cheat to win,” he said. “If we were going to put Vaseline on his back, it wouldn’t be like a tapping little thing. We’d take some Vaseline and make it count, you know what I mean? We don’t do that. We don’t cheat.

“It’s really a non-issue to me because there are cameras everywhere; there are inspectors everywhere,” he continued. “I’m not the smartest guy, but I’m not a moron. I wouldn’t grease someone between rounds.”

One of the sport’s most visible and respected trainers, Jackson thinks St. Pierre’s performance may have worked against him in terms of giving the controversy legs. No one had ever defeated Penn so soundly before.

“When you’ve got a guy as good as Georges and people are looking, like, ‘How can this guy be so good?’ People are going to find controversy somewhere at some point,” Jackson said. “Georges was, like, ‘What are you talking about? That’s ridiculous. I worked really hard.’ It’s nice for us because we know we didn’t cheat. We know what happened that night. To me, it’s not really a big deal when you have the truth on your side.”

Not surprisingly, the Jackson’s Submission Fighting founder indicated the otherworldly St. Pierre would invite a third fight with Penn if there was doubt about the legitimacy of his victory.

“I’m sure he wouldn’t mind fighting B.J. a third time if they’re that concerned about it,” Jackson said. “I’m sure everybody would make a lot of money, and we’d certainly welcome that fight again.”

Jackson expects the furor surrounding their rematch to die down soon.

“There’s not a lot of validity to it,” Jackson said. “It wasn’t a close fight where people were like, ‘Oh, if it wasn’t for all the cheating they did …’ I think it will just blow over once people realize what the truth was.”

Kizer was uncertain as to whether or not the incidents impacted the match. The first time St. Pierre and Penn met, the outcome was far less one-sided, as the French Canadian took a split decision at UFC 58 in 2006.

“It’s hard to tell,” he said. “I don’t think it takes away the victory, but I think it takes away from the victory. You’ve got to be better than that.”

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: February 01, 2009, 04:28:58 AM »
Hmmmmm ..... people reaching for straws or a legitamate concern:

B.J. Penn's Camp Files Formal Complaint Over Vaseline on St. Pierre's Back Between Rounds | www.cagepotato.com

" "I saw the commission jump up there and flipping out," said Dana White. They said one of the guys was rubbing Vaseline on Georges' back in between rounds. It was one and two, I think."

"The guys from the athletic commission went up there and started screaming at them. Knocked the Vaseline and kicked the Vaseline out of the Octagon."

White added that "some Vaseline on a guy's back didn't change the outcome of that fight, but you don't do it," and said the blame should fall on the cornerman responsible and not GSP.

"If a guy was intentionally putting Vaseline on a guy's back, he should never corner a mixed martial arts fight again."

As for what becomes of the complaint now, White said it's out of his hands.

"Who knows. That's up to the commission." "



Intentional?

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread
« on: February 01, 2009, 12:23:22 AM »
I feel the same way.

Honestly I think BJ took some good shots, maybe never been hit that hard before and was demoralized by the 3rd round.
4th round started out a little better.  GSP had the perfect plan to negate BJ strengths.

Love the Machida fight, lateral movement in and out with the knees.

The spinning elbow was cool, I was wondering if it could work if someone grabbed your weapon.

Sorry.. not as technical as others. Looking forward to hearing others as well.

Missed some of the earlier fights got to Mike's late.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Ripley's believe it or not.
« on: January 31, 2009, 02:54:22 AM »
Sorry for some reason I thought this kinda fits the topic.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0cgQkT4ScQ[/youtube]

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Ripley's believe it or not.
« on: January 30, 2009, 01:09:33 PM »
Wow, he took a pretty good combo there..
So do they just take it and hope that the opponent will go away or do the follow up with something?

Out of curiosity can they take a beating with a stick?? LOL.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Ripley's believe it or not.
« on: January 30, 2009, 12:21:39 PM »
I think that clip was from the Combat KI guys, I googled the term "Combat KI" and didnt bring up any sites of substance but I did find this clip.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/677164/martial_art_combat_ki/

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Movie Fights
« on: January 29, 2009, 02:48:33 PM »
I picked up
Ip Man(Yip Man)
cool movie, i'm not sure on the accuracy of this biopic.
There's a nice fight scene in a dojo with Yip Man(Donnie Yen) vs 9-10 japanese soldiers.
Other than that the fight scenes are pretty limited. This movie was choreographed and directed by Sammo Hung.
I've always liked the straight blast, just it's use must be timed like anything. Vitors boxing blast is a variation.

I still want to get Throwdown that judo movie....but I hae to order it via the web.

I was in Kaimuki the other day, watched a little because it was on the TV.  It kind of reminded me of the Bruce Lee movie Fist of Fury \ Chinese Connection. I decided I could wait a little while longer..



to be fair to both movies, you must've only watched that scene where Donnie takes on 10 guys. the rest of the movie Ip Man is nothing like BL's FOF/CC.

True, I watched that scene, browsed the store a little bit and then watched a little more I was intent on getting it but decided to buy something for my sons instead but Ill get it, eventually.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Movie Fights
« on: January 29, 2009, 01:29:18 AM »
I picked up
Ip Man(Yip Man)
cool movie, i'm not sure on the accuracy of this biopic.
There's a nice fight scene in a dojo with Yip Man(Donnie Yen) vs 9-10 japanese soldiers.
Other than that the fight scenes are pretty limited. This movie was choreographed and directed by Sammo Hung.
I've always liked the straight blast, just it's use must be timed like anything. Vitors boxing blast is a variation.

I still want to get Throwdown that judo movie....but I hae to order it via the web.

I was in Kaimuki the other day, watched a little because it was on the TV.  It kind of reminded me of the Bruce Lee movie Fist of Fury \ Chinese Connection. I decided I could wait a little while longer..


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Oooh I still have time? Sweet.
I had given up because of computer issues, I didn't get the laptop I wanted so I beefed up my current machine.
Going to get some training in with DogZilla tomorrow.  Maybe I can get something on tape.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: VIDEO CLIPS OF INTEREST
« on: January 16, 2009, 09:42:42 AM »
Not sure if this was already posted,

Legendary moro warrior Telesporo Subingsubing capture in this rare clip demonstrating his double stick, multiple attackers and some dumog. Shot in Hawaii circa 50's-60's? (Unverified)


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNentRsIkWE[/youtube]

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: September 20, 2009 Gathering
« on: January 16, 2009, 09:37:57 AM »
I'm not exactly sure which one I will be able to attend but I definitely plan on attending a gathering, Im leaning towards the September gathering.
Looking forward to getting back out there.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: December 27, 2008, 08:28:02 AM »
Grateful power is being restored.  :-D

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Daily Expression of Gratitude
« on: December 27, 2008, 12:47:09 AM »
Grateful that my little guys are safe with grandmas.
Grateful that my wife is at work with me during this island wide power outage
Grateful  I work at a NOC
Grateful for family and a wonderful christmas.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Happy Holidays, whatever your version
« on: December 24, 2008, 02:12:31 PM »
Mele Kalikimaka!  Maligayan Pasko! La Maunia Le Kilisimasi Ma Le Tausaga Fou! Frohe Weihnachten und ein glückliches Neues Jahr! Feliz Navidad! Hmmm I think that covers our family and the Hawai'i Clan.

Alohaz.

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Martial Arts Topics / Re: VIDEO CLIPS OF INTEREST
« on: December 07, 2008, 01:03:22 AM »
um yeah...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT1PPZ5vyuU[/youtube]

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