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Martial Arts Topics / Re: Dealing with the adrenaline dump
« on: January 21, 2011, 11:14:43 AM »
woof mates

I personally enjoy the nlp supra state and mental conditioning drills
IE using visualization and mental rehearsal techniques to stimulate an actual physiological response
I picture an encounter with enough detail to bring about changes in my physiology, my breathing, provoke a full adrenal dump etc
then practice skill in that state

the state of the ad is one that is there to keep us alive, so I see no good in training it out (not that you actually can, you can mitigate it and desensitize yourself to it, but heck, why scrap such an awesome tool)
instead, I like the idea of becoming more effective in that state
Richard Grannon has some good mp3s on this you can find others as well
Bandler's ferocious resolve etc



diet of fat, protein, veggies and leafy greens= less chance
diet prescribed by big Agra and big pharma= customer for life, even though the quality and span will be reduced

wow that last bit is spot on about training an addict to partake three times a day
that is priceless



a model I have seen used for body comp

what is funny is in all honesty, the majority of the folks I deal with or have contact with I try to impress on them that if they stop focusing on weight, and rather focus in moving well and moving often, getting rid of the compensations physical or otherwise that are there to overcome the lack of mobility at some part of their body, and become as strong as they can, that by just eating whole and as close to original state foods they will be changed

my question everytime is
"if you could feel good all the time, move like an athlete, eat what you like and weigh the same would that be ok?"
common answer is yes

but people have to apply to work with me, and I charge a lot ;) so the level of commitment tends to be high

Taube is a cool bit as he mostly concerns himself with investigating whether science is actually science or not

and in the clip he goes over some of the studies showing decreased caloric intake and obesity being concomittant


in a couple cases obesity on the bottom and
emaciation on the top

did those folks starve their faces and feed their butts?

south park it's not ;)

interesting eh?

choices are not all made at the conscious level
some are made at the genetic level

then ther is the enteric nervous system

this is interesting for a lot of reasons

a calorie is not indeed a calorie

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Chiropractic for children?
« on: November 13, 2010, 06:01:43 AM »
couple things,
just my tidbits
I see a chiro now and then, usually picking up my wife from work ;)
seriously, have not had to get treated in a long time due to intelligent programming and the amount of time I spend on mobility work, 9 out of 10 times I can sort any issues that do arise with some z health drills and off I go, the one time I cannot, I load up on anti-inflammatory and wait a day doing targeted mobility (zhealth) and its almost always sorted

I can recommend a coach near you if you like


check out what Dr Ed Thomas has going, there is a lot here that will ring true to you folks that have grown up and also to the members of the pack that now have pups of their own  a treatise by Dr Thomas on physical culture and education, its shorter than it looks on school furniture and its deleterious effects

source link is in the newsletters and newsletters home

there is enough info in there to start a revolution re physical culture and physical education

Dr Thomas is an amazing resource, and he gives this stuff away like its candy on halloween

I will be seeing him this coming weekend at this

and cheap

enjoy the reading lol
it was a rabbit hole I fell into and found myself amongst friends

That would apply to these?

odds are high
most of the supplements on the market are repackaged private label gigs

you could has Guru Crafty's dog-zymes on sale and flying off the shelves ;)

most of what I have been able to learn leads toward enzymes being good for lactose digestion inflammation and assisting in lipolysis
other than would seem another bottle of magic beans
happy to be proven wrong though
all I need is a few peer reviewed 3rd party double blind studies without confirmation bias and I will happily concede :)

Yes, they are good.(Vitalzyme). They are expensive. I used them after working with Mike and Pavel in May. My wife and I tried them. I stick to Fish Oil and a bucket of Life Extension Foundations stuff. They are near me in Ft. Lauderdale.

Lee Labrada has a brand as well. Don't know how they match up.

--Tom Furman

funny thing about enzymes, simce they all come from a central source(a chemical. supply warehouse) after the supplier ships them the issue becomes one of quality control at the production facility of the end wholesaler

weird right?

I found that to be particularly helpful in evaluating claims made by different suppliers

Martial Arts Topics / Re: NYT: Cortisone
« on: October 29, 2010, 04:49:58 AM »
he who treats the site of pain is lost

Martial Arts Topics / Re: talent is what the unskilled call skill
« on: October 15, 2010, 02:40:00 PM »
awesome find Karsk

bummer, can not watch it here in the us

precisely so
"a high standard of living"
less stress
more leisure time
more active life styles
less access to the kinds of "food" we have here

does not disprove, rather highlights the point I am making
and as stated by other members
activity level is a determining factor

most folks here in the US spend more time prone or seated than moving
and when they do move, it tends to ne in a seated position
with little regard for function, chasing caloric intake goals and unreasonable body images

six pack abs are a producible low bodyfat percentage not muscular development
a giant ass can be the result of deadlifting as easily as never moving it

we have not even addressed body image dystopia and parietal lobe disorders
or feedback loops stemming from trauma

choice is pretty vague

sometimes as active and fit individuals we may find ourselves falling into the trap of thinking since we find it easy than everyone should be able to do it as easily, whatever it is

talk to a mugging victim about stick fighting
if they were successful in defending themselves they will likely be receptive
if not however the terror just talking about it can bring up is a thing to behold

if mom gave you a candy bar whenever you did right
you will have that wired in

the neurons that wire together fire together

food is a drug

addiction is no joke

do junkie choose to be junkies or is it a process that starts witha choice and ends with the monkey

between a full time job
private clients, teaching classes
and filling in for Sifu whilst he is out if town
have not had time to come back to this

choice= options available, ability to make a decision
health= somewhat ambiguous though I think most would  agree that being free of disease and able to meet the daily exigencies of life would fit the bill
theory= a proven hypothesis, a set of facts based on observation that can be used to predict future outcomes

if any one takes the time to google rats, obesity, addiction they will find some entertaining and compelling research

fact stress hormone cascade causes reduction in flow to the cortex ( we get stupid, make worse choices) reduction in cellular protein uptake ( eat all you want, only about 3 of 10 grams of protein will be used for cell turnover, the other 7 become fat ) reduction of GABA which leads to more fuzzy thinking and bad sleep patterns, add all of that to a sedentary lifestyle, bad food available in massive quantities at low cost, good food being hard to find in some areas and near nonexistent in others, the reaction our brain has to said bad food (wired for feelings of satiety with fat salt sweet) .....

them obese folk are just stupid rubes that don't had the sense to see that they are dying a slow and horrific death, ostracized from the pack (society), if the could just choose to not be biologically the same as the rest of he human specie they would be better.....


Martial Arts Topics / Re: Conditioning
« on: October 14, 2010, 08:13:54 PM »
thats why I tossed in the "modified"

so far everythig I can lay hands on that  has  enough data behind it indicates a modified Atkins with more high quality carbs from fruits and veggies and more fish is the big hit

plant based with lots of omega 3,9,11

I say whatever works for the individual and whatever is germane to the task at hand
for instance
all day today snacking on almonds and green tea
now I am devouring the wicked beans and rice with some tasty food and things that food eats in it
followed shortly by ranger IPA
and what looked like brownies

I always ask my clients"what are you doing x"
if they have a decent answer I say cool
if not we get our learn on

Martial Arts Topics / Re: talent is what the unskilled call skill
« on: October 14, 2010, 08:06:46 PM »
all the talent in the world is useless if it is never practiced

First let us define our terms-Socrates

define healthy
define choice
define theory

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Conditioning
« on: October 12, 2010, 10:52:02 AM »
sounds like a modified Warrior Diet or Eat Stop Eat

controlled fasting

consistent conscious exercise is a truly beautiful thing to behold

a side point

food is a drug when it is manufactured rather than grown

opioid response from fat/sweet/salt
the chemists working for major food producers are tasked with utilizing that response

stress causes a decrease is lipolysis and cellular protein uptake, and an increase in the amount of glucose and fat that us in the blood stream

the idea that it is a choice is silly frankly

no one chooses to place themselves in a socially and physically detrimental state
no one chooses to be in a position of ridicule and in which they will be held in contempt by their fellow man
we are social and highly emotional creatures that require interaction with other creates of our kind to survive in a healthy manner
there may be some rare exceptions
those folks will likely tell you " it took a while to get used to, but I became my own company"

if I take food, synthesize it, remove all of the nutrients and replace the "food with chemical substances that mimic the food in the body, then price those substances lower than food, am I a drug pusher or a captain of industry

being a person that helps people lose, manage, and overcome the obstacles to their physique issues, I deal with folks that come in all shapes and sizes

I de-stress their bodies and minds with movement, educated them about nutrition and how food works in the chemical processes of our bodies, show them exercises theycan use to make it easy
and they get better

no one consciously chooses worse
that is bs

not so humble opinion there
it's fact

everyone wants better
some people don't have access to better, physically, mentally, emotionally or through some other limiting factor
but they would not turn better away if they could get

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Stretching
« on: October 11, 2010, 11:23:26 AM »
we are wired to move
good follow up still

lots of good stiff in this thread

another quick point would be that after getting more/better ROM or movement to then perform some autonomous task like walking to set the new pattern in the cns

Martial Arts Topics / Re: talent is what the unskilled call skill
« on: October 11, 2010, 11:15:47 AM »

Martial Arts Topics / Re: talent is what the unskilled call skill
« on: October 10, 2010, 05:59:52 PM »
all of the above is absolutely true somewhere in the world

personally I view everyone as an athlete of varying levels of skill and ability

the seperations get thinner the higher up the food chain you move for sure, still
those folks in the top 2% are the ones that practice from micro to macro and do so dilligently and conciously

Martial Arts Topics / Re: talent is what the unskilled call skill
« on: October 09, 2010, 03:04:56 PM »
another large determinating factor was passion, if passionate about a subject the drive to master skill is higher
how many of the folks here have given up social engagement, superfluous hobbies and even relationships to become better at expressing themselves through interpersonal human conflict

having personally spent 6 days a week 1-3 hrs per day trying to develop my skill as a practitioner and instructor of martial arts, sports, and science

this rang true

Martial Arts Topics / Re: talent is what the unskilled call skill
« on: October 08, 2010, 06:06:08 PM »
one of the points made relentlesly in both books is that if you examine "talent"
you will in fact find deliberate practice
starting with mental imagery and leading all the way to physical practice

concert impressarios have parents that are accomplished musicians
tracks stars have older siblings to catch up to
financial wizards have incentive and mentors
most f all
they are all driven by passion

eusain boldt (sp) is the prime example

guy screams across the finish line with yard between the nearest competitor and makes it look easy
at a height that all who know would say makes it impossible for him to be a world class sprinter

Martial Arts Topics / talent is what the unskilled call skill
« on: October 08, 2010, 05:37:03 AM »
been reading more and more about the neurology of skill development

"skill is insulation wrapped around neural networks, it grows according to specific rules"

that is from "the talent code" by Daniel Coyle

between that and "Talent is over-rated"

my thoughts on how to practice have been both reinforced and drastically changed

the deliberate practice model of skill development
practicing in the best physical and mental state possible and also practicing in distress are crucial
also viral is to learn to recognize when practice is no longer productive, and to quit then
not later after wasting time and becoming better at being crappy

everything is a skill
deliberate, dedicated, focused practice is essential to developing mastery
10000 hours is required for proficiency if not mastery
skill is insulation wrapped around neural networks and it grows according to certain rules
if we are cognizant of where our practice is leading us, we will be able to devote our time to optimal practice rayed than simply getting our reps in

anyone who is truly interested in developing mastery of any skill should read these texts

neuro science is a burgeoning field that IMHO is the edge of a giant wave that is a bout to crash on the human paradigm

just my little growl from the back of the den

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Stretching
« on: October 07, 2010, 05:03:10 AM »
one thing to bear in mind may be the following

why are you stretching

and follow up to that

what will you do after

for example
I stretch or mobilize or what have you
then go sit on the couch
this gives my cns a new neuro muscular pattern to work with, for sitting on the couch

if after creating a better platform for performance through mobilization, stretching, active release, foam rolling, tens, emt, Rolfing, or eating a brontosaurus steak, I go use that new platform to refine a motor skill, the more efficient movent pattern becomes the higher order choice

being wired for survival is a bonus

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Stretching
« on: September 20, 2010, 03:17:53 PM »
excellent follow up still
reasoned and well worded

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Stretching
« on: September 14, 2010, 10:30:47 AM »
rock the fro, to and ....
don't fade the funk man its not all about function,you have to have style too lol

no worries, happy to provide anything I can
if there are specific things you would like to work on, let me know, I may be able to assist over the interwebs

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Conditioning
« on: September 13, 2010, 11:26:11 AM »
recently I had to make a concession to the reality of the envrionment (I live in MN) and professional appearance

you may also check out vivo barefoot shoes

dharma or aquas are my pick

3mm kevlar sole, super thin, super flexible, and they look like normal shoes

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Stretching
« on: September 13, 2010, 11:24:19 AM »
I'm running more these days, and I'm not near as limber as I used to be. Any good stretching routines for the lower body, especially the hamstrings?

In my humble and somewhat educated (for what its worth) opinion
nothing indicates that stretching has any real effect on performance, good or bad

best information I have had access to indicates that mobilizing the joints of the muscles that you want to loosen up, will give a better effect, short and long term
not only by loosening up the areas, but by taking the stress off of those areas, the gait is changed, making it more efficient
more efficient means less energy expended and less stress overall
which gives a better neurological map for the cns to navigate with

I quit stretching in 08, went to dynamic joint mobility strategies instead and have not looked back
I can even prove my point with muscle testing, showing how stretches make the muscles weaker and mobilization makes them stronger

as a point of reference, stretching, unless taken beyond the plastic threshold of the tissue (thats called a tear) will only last for a few minutes before the tissue returns to its former shape, continuously stretching tissue leads to -A:bad motor pattern that lets a group relax when it should not or B:damage in the long term from being taken past plastic point of tissue

ok, it was more like my 10$ rather than .02$

check these out, the toe pulls and ankle tilts esp for running

the ankle tilts target the hamstrings by mobilizing the talo/calcaneal joint
the outside toe pull targets the glut medius by mobilizing the cuboid joint
the middle toe pull targets the rectus femoris (quad/hip flexor) by mobilizing the cuneiform
and the inside toe pull targets the psoas by mobilizing the navincular joint scroll down till you see the bones of the foot

you are looking to get a very gentle opening of the joints 1-2 mm about as much as your knuckle opens when you make the okay sign and squish the the index finger down with your thumb

never move into pain, move only through the edge of tension

dont do it if you have swelling, or an existing injury

not a doctor, don't play one on tv
not making medical or any other claims
I am not treating, diagnosing or claiming to cure anything
I am worth every penny you paid for this ;)
(actually I am 150$ per hour for neuroplastic athletic development and performance enhancement/personal fitness consulting, and I do skype;) )

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Conditioning
« on: August 12, 2010, 12:12:18 PM »
not Guru Crafty, but I have a pair of kso's and sprints that I wear almost daily for more than a year
my gym pair finally (after 2 yrs) started to wear through on the big toe
the flow's only see use during the cooler months and they are going strong with little sign of wear

I have 2 prs of sprints, one pair of kso's and a pair of flow's

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Conditioning
« on: July 31, 2010, 03:06:12 PM »
VO2 max day

10 minutes of turkish get ups with a 16kg bell
66 rounds of 15:15 work rest ratio consisting of 10 rounds of double 16kg push press @6 per set/10 rounds of snatches 16kg @6 per set(switching hands each round)/10 rounds of 16kg push press @6 per set/10 rounds of double 16kg push press @6 per set/10 rounds of snatches 16kg @6 per set(switching hands each round)/10 rounds of 16kg push press @6 per set/ending with 6 sets of double 16kg cleans @6 per set

Martial Arts Topics / Re: biofeedback
« on: July 24, 2010, 07:14:32 AM »
mindfullness is a giant leap for some
just paying attention lol

one of the things that made stick fighting shine so brightly for me

its honesty

you can not ignore or bs
you did or you did not
there are no half measures, no boasting, no bravado
the stick, like steel and lead, always tells the truth
and you will ignore it at your peril  :-D

Martial Arts Topics / Re: biofeedback
« on: July 23, 2010, 07:05:03 AM »
Interesting blog entry.  I happen to agree with 95 percent of it.  The personal best for a given day mentality that I use has driven some of my more accounting-style gym partners to distraction over the years.

 The only thing I might halfway disagree with is in Point 7. Yes, at a certain point, we should all let go and just do things the way our body wants to do them naturally.  But we also need to periodically monitor ourselves to see if we're generating small tensions and problems in ourselves because some of them build up so gradually that it takes 6-8 weeks to notice the damage. 

A fascinating exposition, overall.  And something that I have noticed repeated all too often in life.  Very often, the majority will actually disagree with something but no one actually wants to say anything for one reason or another.

a big part of that methodology, is that you do much of the work getting the system to function at a higher level on a very specific scale
using the test, assess, retest methodology for all constituent parts of the activity and sussing out where the highest level of threat response resides in the nervous system, then performing specific tasks to modulate that threat response

I like peripheral vision and closed eye one leg balance as a means of testing for response
vision is the first thing to respond to threat in the cns, so its an easy test

Selfcritical, watch your mailbox, should be there by next tues

Martial Arts Topics / Re: biofeedback
« on: July 21, 2010, 10:54:36 AM »
Adam's latest blog was.....a tad intense.

I do love Adam, he is a genuine individual all the way down to the core

this is I assume to what you refer

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Conditioning
« on: July 14, 2010, 04:31:47 AM »
for anyone who has to wear a tactical style boot for job or just because you like em

practical review of the Nike SFB from a gentleman that just finished Ranger School

apparently they are good for Rucking.....

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Conditioning
« on: July 13, 2010, 08:15:10 PM »
more of a results of conditioning but any way

recently had to make a 1 mile run in torrential downpour with full pack (my edc pack weighs in at around 60lbs with laptop, training blades, sticks, video and ipod gear, cords, whatever I am reading, my work and gym clothes etc.)

managed to nail it in tevas in less than 9 minutes, and barely got my breath up

love me some kettlebells for conditioning
and I love me some biofeedback to let me in on what to do

I don't know much about their use, other than that the extreme curve in the scabbard is designed to catch the belt to allow a quick draw (most of the models I've seen don't have belt loops on the scabbard., and are designed to be tucked into a cloth belt)  I always thought the curved blade of the weapon was designed to maximize its slashing capability, but apparently the curved design is an artifact of the original material of its manufacture, as before the Arabic peoples gained metal-working technology the Jambiya was made from a buffalo horn split longitudinally, then shaped and sharpened into a blade. A lot of the blades of Africa and Asia bear the design characteristics of the "Horn Age" when weapons were made from re-worked bone and horns, like  the Persian and Indian Khanjar.  I just learned this after I pulled Sir Richard F. Burton's "The Book of the Sword" (1884) down from the shelf today.  Burton wrote:

"The modern weapon, with metal blade and ivory handle, has one side of the latter flat, betraying its origin by retaining a peculiarity no longer required. The same is the case when the whole Jumbiyah is, as often happens, made of metal."  I wonder if that characteristic still shows up in modern Jambiyas?

Burton, who was an avid swordsman, doesn't discuss how it was employed. Are there systemized schools of sword and knife combat from the Arabic tribes? You would think that if there were, those techniques would show up in the knife classes taught in their armies' elite units.  From the few videos I've seen of Jordanian and Egyptian special ops units training, it looks like pretty standard Applegate-Fairbairn techniques and sentry removal with a standard straight-bladed combat knife. I know there are al-Qaeda videos showing combatives training but I don't recall seeing any knife techniques  being taught or demonstrated - has anyone else seen any?

It's worth noting that the 9-11 hijackers learned how to use their edged weapons at a martial arts school in the United States.

if anyone wants to have a copy of the book mentioned, you can have it here for free is awesome

My Mom (60+) has been "working out" for years to maintain bone density, she is stornger than some men her age too.  No big weights either, just enough to feel a load and keep the reps under 15.  She has also been running an aqua aerobics class as well, just to get some of her older friends active again.  Many of them had balance problems- and a fear of falling- which the water resolved, being a good catcher/buffer.

Those that have been working out with er at the class have started "dry" workouts too.  They feel the way they went from little balance to easy balance and now are thinking of some strength as well. 

The research that it is not just resistence (weight) training that builds bones is not so much an issue, the issue is retaining bone strength.  I think that it is impact training that builds bone, the ability to take shock, isn't it.  Walking on concrete would work up to a point, then you have adapted and need to find another method.

Mom always says ACTIVITY is the key for having a fun old age, the dogs won't have THAT problem will they? :mrgreen:

scrolling through the old stuff here

wolfs law
davis' law

one states that bones re-enforce themselves along the lines of stress
one states that muscles re-enforce themselves along the lines of stress

the only thing that doesn't move was either never alive or is about to go the way of reasoned debate on television

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Conditioning
« on: June 14, 2010, 08:52:51 AM »
just finished 80 sets of vo2 snatches with a 16kg bell at 7 reps per set on the 15:15 protocol

grip, hip drive, and lung capacity all get taxed
though, since I have done this protocol a few times now, 80 sets is not that big of a stretch any more
barely get out of breath, not bragging, just saying that you adapt to whatever you do and if you minimize the stress levels, you adapt faster

40 minutes tops, 15 sq feet of space with enough overhead room for the weight at full lock out, and a moderate weight  and you are in business

if anyone is interested in the protocol I can give you the basics pretty quickly

once a week has been my pattern lately, with as much stick work and knife action as I can fit into my schedule

How long did it take you to work up to that? Also, did you get any HR measurements?

I have not checked in a while, my resting is between 45 and 65 avg

I have been up above 205 for 5 minutes straight snatching the 24kg, that was fun

maybe next time out I will hit the monitor again

this protocol is specifically designed to increase strength and cardivascular conditioning at the same time, with a side effect of an increase in the ejection fraction of the left ventricle without increasing the thickness of the muscle wall

one of my clients went from heart disease with lower than avg ejection fraction to better than avg in 3 mos while simultaneously losing about 30 pounds of fat and gaining close to 15 pounds of muscle, went up 3 coat sizes and had to buy new pants, not for the waist ;)

all I know, is it makes knife and stick sparring a lot easier, and thai pads dont kill me the way they used to

more gas, more power and torque, lower rpms

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Conditioning
« on: June 14, 2010, 08:47:37 AM »
a) A snatch is from hanging to shoulder or overhead?

b) Are you saying you have 15 seconds to do 7 reps and then 15 seconds to rest?

the snatch is executed as selfcritical described, a swing back from the 3 pt postition to full overhead lockout (bell and shoulder in same line)

most folks start at 6, some at 7, it depends on the cadence test

yep, you work on a 15:15 work rest ratio for as many rounds as you can manage with good form while maintaining the cadence

and as selfcritical stipulates, you accelerate the bell on the down swing (it weighs up to 4 times more as you pull it out of the hole because of this, overspeed eccentric)

as to how long it took to work up to this

I am an RKC, so I had a good deal of proficiency in the snatch before I started, but it took about 3 mos total to hit the first 80 sets at 6 per, about 3 wks later it was 80 at 7, then about 1 mos later 80 at 8, I then continued on the protocol as it is designed to go for 36 sets of 20 on the 36:36 work rest ratio

I have also done this with single and double 16kg push press for 6/7/8 reps per

it can be brutal, but gratifying

the conditioning you get for the grip, legs, arms, shoulders and explosive power in the legs and the core stabilization work are all big hits in my book

lots of bang for your buck

did it in the rain again this weekend, and that is a whole other animal ;)

oh snap!

super want to hear more on that

do keep us posted yeah?

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Conditioning
« on: June 12, 2010, 04:04:33 PM »
just finished 80 sets of vo2 snatches with a 16kg bell at 7 reps per set on the 15:15 protocol

grip, hip drive, and lung capacity all get taxed
though, since I have done this protocol a few times now, 80 sets is not that big of a stretch any more
barely get out of breath, not bragging, just saying that you adapt to whatever you do and if you minimize the stress levels, you adapt faster

40 minutes tops, 15 sq feet of space with enough overhead room for the weight at full lock out, and a moderate weight  and you are in business

if anyone is interested in the protocol I can give you the basics pretty quickly

once a week has been my pattern lately, with as much stick work and knife action as I can fit into my schedule

Martial Arts Topics / High Gear
« on: June 10, 2010, 06:48:06 AM »
anyone have experience with Tony Blauer's High Gear?
I am going to be putting it into the rotation for my skill practice and was curious if anyone had done this with the kali/fma
any thoughts and tips would be well received

Martial Arts Topics / Re: biofeedback
« on: May 27, 2010, 04:08:42 PM »
He's had some, but it's not like he's decimating the Dallas BJJ scene, which is kind of what you'd expect if everyone else is training wrong and he alone is doing things that don't hinder performance.

I am interested in the aspect of people moderating their exertion based on a simple biometric like rom

if one

A:knows how to move or perform a skill
B:can keep their practice germane to their goals

then it seems a decent tool to add to the box

they teach it to us in Z, but it is not the end of the road, not saying that is the end for the gm folks either, but they do seem to be leaving a lot out of the public stuff
the gnr dvds are better
I like Adam though, so maybe I am biased, he has the lion's heart thing going and honestly seems to want to make people better

back on topic

the idea of testing a ma movement or drill came up and I thought I would do some research outside of the dd and z community

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Ruptured achilles tendon - part Dieux
« on: May 27, 2010, 12:35:09 PM »
Well - as if the first time wasn't enough.....

January 31st (2010) and I popped the left Achilles.  Pretty much the same move - this time without armor on.  Knife sparring and moving very fast against an agile opponent (speedy Edwin Tam who likes his knives just fine).  And that just after having lectured my students on safety.

Nothing I would have changed - just leaping back out of the way.  And POP!

I had done this before so I knew what it was all over again.  And this time, I was really unhappy about it.  I had so many things lined up for the coming months - fire sword performances at the Winter Olympics, the Spring Tribal Gathering, into the second week of an 8 week mini-course on Harimau pencak silat.... I was seriously unhappy.

But - thanks to the benefits of a robust public health system (this is Canada we're talking about here), I was examined and in a hospital bed within 2 hours.  And I would have had surgery that afternoon if I hadn't stopped to each lunch before going to Emergency.  So I went in the next day - same reconstructive surgery (different surgeon though).  Back home.  Leg elevated, off painkillers in 24 hours again (this time they threw Oxycodone at me - what?!?!).  And back up that same damned mountain.

Here it is mid-May and I'm just out of the air cast again.  I made a point of training hard all through this period - I even finished the Harimau mini-course after delaying it for 3 weeks.  Kept my tone and now I've got another 6 months of stretching, strengthening, and getting back to where I was again.

So - what did I learn this time?

Well a few new things came up on this go'round - something some of you might want to consider:

First - "platelet rich plasma" treatments - too late for me to consider - but apparently there is a new treatment for tendon ruptures and the like which is being used by professional athletes.  Basically (pardon me if I don't get this exactly right), your own blood is drawn and then using a centrifuge the platelets are extracted along with the plasma.  Then the "platelet rich plasma" (PRP) is injected directly into the damaged site.

The results is analogically like using stem cells - recovery is accelerated dramatically by the presence of the necessary components and the benefits continue for some time after the initial injection.  The benefits are felt almost immediately (within 24 hours) and only one or two injections are needed.  Typical cost is around $500-700 per injection.  And no invasive surgery is required.

Sounds almost too good to be true - well, it certainly isn't available in Canada yet.  And it wouldn't have helped me probably with a full rupture.  But something to consider if you are faced with something similar - ask your doctor.

Second - after regularly I bombarding my surgeon with questions about using various regeneration techniques like pulsed electromagnetic stimulation (apparently not particularly effective), he gave me some thing to think about.  Not a recover but rather a possible explanation for why Achilles tend to rupture - and often affecting the other tendon within 2 years of the initial rupture in a significant percentage of cases.

He pointed at speculation that the calf muscle may be "late firing" under certain conditions.  That is, when stepping back, the calf muscle decelerates the body through the leg by applying force along the Achilles tendon as the ball of the foot makes contact and the heel starts to descend.  This deceleration normally takes place over the distance of about 3-4 inches in a fraction of a second.

Consider what would happen if the calf muscle was not activated early enough - the heel and body would be in free-fall until the muscle finally began its contraction (assuming the heel hasn't hit the ground yet).  Then, the muscle has to decelerate the body over a much shorter distance to bring the body to a halt.  Suddenly the forces required can be double, treble or quadruple normal - the stress upon the Achilles which anchors the calf spikes dramatically.  And if certain things happen to be true (such the presence of irritation due to tendonitis, or poorly designed shoes, or an unexpected unevenness in the terrain), a late firing can result in a rupture.

This late firing may be a product of age or nutrition or other aspect of health.  And it may be a rare but inevitable consequence of how the body's neurological system is constructed and operates - I'm not doctor myself so I can hardly comment.  But the prospects are a bit scary - if true (and that's a big IF), then it is ticking time bomb for a lot of us.  It only takes a tendency to late firing to conjunct with the right circumstances and POP! - you're living unhappiness like me.

More importantly, the big question is:  What does cause "late firing"?  And are there any ways to mitigate the possibility of injury?  Shoe design?  Nutrition?  Behavioral changes? 

It at least explains how someone stepping off a curb (as opposed to sparring or playing racquetball) can just as easily rupture the Achilles.  But it doesn't make me feel any better.

And now I start to wonder - even though I have now ruptured both tendons, and they seem thicker and more substantial than before the injuries (although my calf muscle is probably 70% of original strength), am I in any danger of re-rupturing either?  And is there anything I might want to avoid or consider?

..... well that's just one of life's mysteries, I suppose.  I hope I'm quite done with all this.  And there will be nothing more to add to this thread.

And if you are reading this because you have ruptured yours - you have my complete understanding - of all athletic injuries, it is certainly one of the most annoying.  Not life threatening.  Just irritating.  But it sure doesn't go away very quickly.  Keep working at it.

a couple things

I am not a doctor nor do I play one on the internet


Guru Crafty is on target

I would also add that what ever is causing it, obviously did not get sorted out or it would not happen again

the #1 pre indicator for chances of injury is prior injury

compensations from injuries or odd postural/gait habits can cause all kinds of groovy things

check out the FMS
I am a certified practitioner, if you are interested I think it may well help you out, if you can not find one in your area pm me or email me, I can do a screen online via skype, donations accepted, but I will screen you for free, it is part of my initial session with any new client anyway and the information from screens just makes me a better practitioner

I do know some folks in Canada that are practitioners and have other skills that would feed in

there is a pattern in your movement that is causing the issue, find that, and you will be a much happier dog

Martial Arts Topics / Re: biofeedback
« on: May 27, 2010, 12:23:07 PM »
As far as I can  tell, it's an over-application of a test from z-health for determining if your CNS is showing signs of overtraining. A noteable weakness I think is that the approach doesn't really address any kind of metabolic/energy system work.

I agree to an extent
it seems to be a stripped down version of z and applied kinesiology with some antagonistic marketing ploys

somewhat ingrateful maybe to the folks that got those guys there

my question is more in has anyone used this theory to work with ma?

just curious

had a conversation with Frankie in which we discussed using it to test out different movement patterns in re bjj and that he had some success with it

interesting though


I am a lvl 2 z practitioner, FMS, and RKC, CICS so I have had some experience in the disciplines

Martial Arts Topics / biofeedback
« on: May 07, 2010, 04:52:25 PM »
has anyone caught wind of "the gym movement protocol" or its off shoots?
any one familiar with biofeedback in re:training methodology

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Survivalism; Armageddon; Zombies
« on: May 07, 2010, 04:49:23 PM »
I highly recommend the book "world war Z" by Max Brooks

also recommend his tongue in cheek "zombie survival guide"

both are packed full of insights and the latter is actually a decent disaster preparedness resource

being ready for the zombies has been a running joke, but since I carry a lvl 3 trauma kit, magnesium strip and flint, a lighter, 3-4 knives, water and food everywhere I go
its not always a joke  :mrgreen:

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Nutrition, Diet Thread
« on: May 07, 2010, 10:02:47 AM »
I wonder if Bragg's liquid aminos would offer a double benefit
considering the soy comment

I like Endure, its an electrolyte product you put in water

water is still my drink of choice, then single malt, or mothership whit

Martial Arts Topics / Re: Footwear
« on: May 07, 2010, 10:00:23 AM »
"My understanding about the "not suitable" for fucking is that they tend to wear a bit faster than other boots"

 :lol: :lol: :lol:


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