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ccp

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time to push back on the "green raw deal"
« Reply #550 on: March 04, 2020, 06:23:15 AM »
denying climate change is not working

whether true or not so lets try this

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/its-time-for-conservatives-to-own-the-climate-change-issue/

Crafty_Dog

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Re: Environmental issues
« Reply #551 on: March 04, 2020, 08:42:30 AM »
YES.

DougMacG

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Re: Environmental issues
« Reply #552 on: March 04, 2020, 08:58:59 AM »
Crenshaw:  "Calls for a carbon tax are similarly misguided. Even if we were to implement a carbon tax, such a policy might inadvertently increase emissions as our cleaner, better-regulated American oil-and-gas industry potentially cedes market share to less clean Russian and Saudi producers. At the risk of stating the obvious, the developing world won’t stop demanding energy just because we decide to tax ourselves more."

Great point:  Doing carbon re-capture on natural gas is WAY easier than with coal because it starts so much cleaner.

Every time they say wind and solar, we say, what are you going to use the other 65% of the time.

Bill Gates quote for wind and solar:  “What’s your plan for steel?”

He barely touches on nuclear, not his part of the plan, but that has to be the centerpiece.  The whole electric vehicle craze will need the grid to be powered, not subsidized or politicized.

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However, inspection of a claim by Cook et al. (Environ Res Lett 8:024024, 2013) of 97.1 % consensus, heavily relied upon by Bedford and Cook, shows just 0.3 % endorsement of the standard definition of consensus: that most warming since 1950 is anthropogenic.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11191-013-9647-9#page-1?mod=article_inline

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Re: Environmental issues, CO2 during COVID19
« Reply #554 on: March 29, 2020, 09:50:13 AM »
First, what happened to the 'real' existential crisis?  Why worry about the Wuhan killer when it is really is making us safer?  ['Logic' of the Left.]

Second, With Jets grounded and highways more sparse from cars than ever in memory, shouldn't the CO2 readings coming out at Moana Loa show that shortly?
https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/