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all but on repub votes to limit Trump on war with ISIS
« Reply #500 on: July 03, 2017, 09:15:47 AM »

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Re: Canada to pay Omar Khadr big bucks for ten years in Guantanamo
« Reply #502 on: July 04, 2017, 11:02:20 AM »
http://globalnews.ca/news/3573070/omar-khadr-apology/

If only there were a way to convince the Clintons that he was a witness to some of their crimes...

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AQ suspect brought to US instead of Guantanamo
« Reply #503 on: July 22, 2017, 01:38:36 PM »


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/world/europe/al-qaeda-suspect-court-trump-sessions-guantanamo.html?emc=edit_na_20170721&nl=breaking-news&nlid=49641193&ref=cta

But note

"Mr. Damache, 52, was arrested in Ireland in 2010, but he was released after an Irish judge rejected a request from the United States to extradite him. He was arrested again in 2015 in Spain. Under Mr. Obama, the Justice Department began seeking his extradition, and that effort continued under Mr. Trump"

In other words not only is this not a battlefield capture, we may well have had to agree to US federal courts instead of Gitmo in order to get the extradition.  Do I have this right?




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War Powers Resolution
« Reply #507 on: December 16, 2018, 02:25:50 AM »

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John Walker Lindh getting out.
« Reply #508 on: March 26, 2019, 04:58:09 PM »
John Walker Lindh Should Not Be Released Early
by Patrick Dunleavy
IPT News
March 26, 2019
https://www.investigativeproject.org/7869/john-walker-lindh-should-not-be-released-early




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Re: Legal Issues created by the War with Islamic Fascism
« Reply #512 on: April 26, 2019, 05:31:20 PM »
Ummm , , , because we hold ourselves to the core understandings of the Geneva Convention?

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Re: Legal Issues created by the War with Islamic Fascism
« Reply #513 on: April 26, 2019, 07:19:00 PM »
Ummm , , , because we hold ourselves to the core understandings of the Geneva Convention?

They are illegal combatants. They are outlaws. The fact that we even have to discuss this is why we are losing the war.

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Re: Legal Issues created by the War with Islamic Fascism
« Reply #514 on: April 26, 2019, 09:55:16 PM »
Sounds like you are advocating something that the Russian tried , , , Do I misunderstand?

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Re: Legal Issues created by the War with Islamic Fascism
« Reply #515 on: April 26, 2019, 10:21:59 PM »
Sounds like you are advocating something that the Russian tried , , , Do I misunderstand?

I advocate winning. Whatever it takes. Remember when we used to win wars? China laughs at our spinelessness.

Right now, those scumbags in Gitmo are getting better medical care than the average vet who lost limbs in Trashcanistan.

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Re: Legal Issues created by the War with Islamic Fascism
« Reply #516 on: April 27, 2019, 10:52:38 AM »
And how would killing these prisoners help our cause?

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Re: Legal Issues created by the War with Islamic Fascism
« Reply #517 on: April 27, 2019, 11:44:04 AM »
And how would killing these prisoners help our cause?

It’s an old concept, but in war, you kill the enemy. Not adopt them as permanent dependent class.

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Re: Legal Issues created by the War with Islamic Fascism
« Reply #518 on: April 27, 2019, 01:12:53 PM »
So, no more prisoners of war?

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Re: Legal Issues created by the War with Islamic Fascism
« Reply #519 on: April 27, 2019, 01:45:11 PM »
So, no more prisoners of war?

Not jihadists, fighting outside the laws of war. Treating them like legitimate soldiers of a nation-state is beyond stupid.



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Quarantine: NY vs RI
« Reply #524 on: March 30, 2020, 12:40:20 PM »
   

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT’S RESPONSE TO CORONAVIRUS has begun to take on a predictable quality. President Trump on Sunday renewed the CDC’s social distancing guidelines through the end of April, papering over the cracks in his resolve that began to show last Sunday when he publicly questioned whether the coronavirus “cure” might be worse than the disease. But just as the administration seems to have cemented its approach, the states have begun to diverge in their responses to the crisis based on varying threat levels in their jurisdictions and the inclinations of their respective governors.
 
A nation that has been obsessed with the Washington show for the last three years is being reminded, seemingly overnight, that state laws matter and that state borders have consequences. In Rhode Island, governor Gina Raimondo has earned the respect of her year-round constituency by dealing harshly with New Yorkers who flock to the state’s coastal communities to spend their summers (and wait out international pandemics). On Friday, Raimondo signed an executive order establishing checkpoints along the state’s borders and instructing state troopers to pull over New York drivers to remind them of their duty to self-quarantine for 14 days. The troopers also ask the drivers for the address of their destination to ensure that they will comply with the order; those who are caught ignoring it can be fined up to $500 or sentenced to up to 90 days in jail. On top of the highway and public transit checkpoints, Raimondo dispatched state troopers and national guardsmen to go door-to-door in the state’s coastal communities looking for cars with New York plates. One woman who received such a visit told National Review the men who appeared on her door step on Saturday afternoon “couldn’t have been nicer” despite the menacing implication of armed men appearing on one’s door step. They did not ask her when she arrived in the state or whether she had left her home since; they simply asked her to stay inside save for visits to the local grocery store and pharmacy. But, since the grocery store and pharmacy are the only businesses open, what exactly necessitated a visit from agents of the state? Perhaps they serve as a warning to other New Yorkers considering making the drive to their vacation homes. If that was Raimondo’s motivation, anecdotal evidence suggests it may be working: one Westchester County, N.Y., resident told National Review she was planning to make the trip to her summer home but began to reconsider after hearing from friends and family that New Yorkers were receiving a less-than-neighborly reception from the locals. She finally decided against making the trip after learning that she might also receive a visit from uniformed men intent on keeping her and her children in their home under threat of a fine.
 
New York governor Andrew Cuomo initially called Raimondo’s executive order an “absurdity” — but struck a slightly more conciliatory tone on Sunday after speaking with Raimondo over the phone.  “I don’t think the order was called for, I don’t believe it was legal, I don’t believe it was neighborly,” Cuomo said at his daily coronavirus briefing on Sunday. “I understand the point, but I thought there were different ways to do it, and the governor of Rhode Island was very receptive.” He was joined in criticizing the state government by the ACLU of Rhode Island, which objected to the decision to pull over New York drivers absent probable cause. “While the Governor may have the power to suspend some state laws and regulations to address this medical emergency, she cannot suspend the Constitution," said Steven Brown, executive director of the ACLU of Rhode Island. “Under the Fourth Amendment, having a New York state license plate simply does not, and cannot, constitute ‘probable cause’ to allow police to stop a car and interrogate the driver, no matter how laudable the goal of the stop may be,” he said.
 
Sending armed men door-to-door and pulling over cars simply because of the color of their license plates seems extreme — right now. But Raimondo’s lockdown approach may become commonplace in states that manage to keep their coronavirus numbers relatively low as their neighbors are overwhelmed. Already, Texas governor Greg Abbott has taken a similar approach, ordering police to collect the information of drivers entering the state from Louisiana and requiring all new arrivals from certain hot spots around the country to self-quarantine for 14 days. Before it is over, this crisis may test interstate solidarity and remind Americans that they live in a federal system as the nation becomes a patchwork of jurisdictions, some of which remain under quarantine as their hospitals are pushed to the limit and others that begin to return to relative normalcy.