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Tucker Carlson on the state of men, interview with Jordan Peterson
« Reply #150 on: March 08, 2018, 08:18:07 AM »


http://video.foxnews.com/v/5747284741001/?playlist_id=5198073478001#sp=show-clips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExhlNHRnh0s

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You hear a lot in America about the "war on women," but it's men in America who are failing. We have some shocking statistics:

The signs are everywhere. If you’re a middle aged man, you probably know a peer who has killed himself in recent years. At least one. If you’re a parent, you may have noticed that your daughter’s friends seem a little more on the ball than your son’s. They get better grades. They smoke less weed. They go to more prestigious colleges. If you’re an employer, you may have noticed that your female employees show up on time, whereas the young men often don’t. And of course if you live in this country, you’ve just seen a horrifying series of mass shootings, far more than we’ve ever had. Women didn’t do that. In every case, the shooter was a man.

Something ominous is happening to men in America. Everyone who pays attention knows that. What’s odd is how rarely you hear it publicly acknowledged. Our leaders pledge to create more opportunities for women and girls, whom they imply are failing. Men don’t need help. They’re the patriarchy. They’re fine. More than fine.

But are they fine? Here are the numbers:

Start with the most basic, life and death. The average American man will die five years before the average American woman. One of the reasons for this is addiction. Men are more than twice as likely as women to become alcoholics. They’re also twice as likely to die of a drug OD. In New Hampshire, one of the states hit hardest by the opioid crisis, 73 percent of overdose deaths were men.

But the saddest reason for shortened life spans is suicide. Seventy-seven percent of all suicides are committed by men. The overall rate is increasing at a dramatic pace. Between 1997 and 2014, there was a 43 percent rise in suicide deaths among middle aged American men. The rates are highest among American Indian and white men, who kill themselves at about ten times the rate of Hispanic and black women.

You often hear of America’s incarceration crisis. That’s almost exclusively a male problem too. Over 90 percent of inmates are male.

These problems are complex, and they start young. Relative to girls, boys are failing in school. More girls than boys graduate high school. Considerably more go to and graduate from college. Boys account for the overwhelming majority of school discipline cases. One study found that fully one in five high school boys had been diagnosed with hyperactivity disorder, compared with just one in 11 girls. Many were medicated for it. The long term health effects of those medications aren’t fully understood, but they appear to include depression in later life.

Women decisively outnumber men in graduate school. They earn the majority of doctoral degrees. They are now the majority of new enrollees in both law and medical schools.

For men, the consequences of failing in school are profound. Between 1979-2010, working age men with only high school degrees saw their real hourly wages drop about 20 percent. Over the same period, high school educated women saw their wages rise. The decline of the industrial economy disproportionately hurt men.

There are now seven million working age American men who are no longer in the labor force. They’ve dropped out. Nearly half of them take pain medication on any given day. That’s the highest rate in the world.

Far fewer young men get married than did just a few decades ago, and fewer stay married. About one in five American children live with only their mothers. That’s double the rate in 1970. Millions more boys are growing up without fathers. Young adult men are now more likely to live with a parent than with a spouse or partner. That is not the case for young women. Single women buy their own homes at more than twice the rate of single men. More women than men now have drivers licenses.

Whenever gender differences come up in public debate, the so-called wage gap dominates the conversation. A woman makes 77 cents for every dollar a man earns. That’s the statistic you’ll hear. It’s repeated everywhere. But that number compares all American men to all American women across all professions. No legitimate social scientist would consider that a valid measure. The number is both meaningless and intentionally misleading. It’s a talking point.

Once you compare men and women with similar experience working the same hours in similar jobs for the same period of time — and that’s the only way you can measure it — the gap all but disappears. In fact it may invert. One study using census data found that single women in their 20s living in metropolitan areas now earn eight percent more on average than their male counterparts. By the way, the majority of managers are now women. Women on average are scoring higher on IQ tests than men are.

Men are even falling behind physically. A recent study found that almost half of young men failed the Army's entry-level physical fitness test during basic training. Fully seventy percent of American men are overweight or obese, as compared to 59 percent of American women.

Perhaps most terrifyingly, men seem to be becoming less male. Sperm counts across the west have plummeted, down almost 60 percent since the early 1970s. Scientists don’t know why. Testosterone levels in men have also fallen precipitously. One study found that the average levels of male testosterone dropped by one percent every year after 1987. This is unrelated to age. The average 40-year-old-man in 2017 would have testosterone levels 30 percent lower than the average 40-year-old man in 1987.

There is no upside to this. Lower testosterone levels in men are associated with depression, lethargy, weight gain and decreased cognitive ability. Nothing like this has ever happened. You’d think we’d want to know what exactly is going on and how to fix it. But the media ignore the story. It’s considered a fringe topic.

Nor is it a priority in the scientific research establishment. We checked and couldn’t find a single NIH-funded study on why testosterone levels are falling. We did find a study on, quote, “Pubic Hair Grooming Prevalence and Motivation Among Women in the United States.”

Those are the numbers. They paint a very clear picture: American men are failing, in body, mind and spirit. This is a crisis. Yet our leaders pretend it’s not happening. They tell us the opposite is true: Women are victims, men are oppressors. To question that assumption is to risk punishment. Even as women far outpace men in higher education, virtually every college campus supports a women’s studies department, whose core goal is to attack male power. Our politicians and business leaders internalize and amplify that message. Men are privileged. Women are oppressed. Hire and promote and reward accordingly.

That would be fine if it were true. But it’s not true. At best, it’s an outdated view of an America that no longer exists. At worst, it’s a pernicious lie.

Either way, ignoring the decline of men doesn’t help anyone. Men and women need each other. One cannot exist without the other. That’s elemental biology, but it’s also the reality each of us has lived, with our parents and siblings and friends. When men fail, all of us suffer. How did this happen? How can we fix it? We hope this series answers those questions. #Tucker Fox News
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Re: Men & Women
« Reply #154 on: April 13, 2018, 07:56:24 AM »


" https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/06/women-see-more-workplace-rudeness-from-other-women-than-from-men.html?__source=sharebar|facebook&par=sharebar"

it was noticed by many nurses that female doctors were often much harder on the female nurses then male doctors .

one theory was the women doctors felt they had to prove themselves more but I don't know it that was it or not.

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Jordan Peterson on Western Women
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Turning Miss America from all mens entertainment to all womens
« Reply #159 on: June 08, 2018, 08:00:48 AM »
Yeah right.  Who would go there to listen to somebody answer questions like "how would you change the world for the better?'  Or for some other lib type politically correct question looking for the best polliticaly correct answer:

http://time.com/5303443/miss-america-swimsuit-competition-history/

Truth be told I haven't watched in long time.

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male 16 yo traumatized for having sex with his 10 y older teacher
« Reply #160 on: June 14, 2018, 08:05:59 AM »
who just happens to looks like Alicia Silverstone:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5840895/High-school-teacher-26-accused-having-sex-student.html

If only I was so lucky at 16..........

She shouldn't expect a 16 yo to keep his mouth shut about this ...... :wink:

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Pregnancy rewires women's brains
« Reply #161 on: July 01, 2018, 04:10:17 PM »


https://www.popsci.com/pregnancy-re-wires-brains-moms-to-be?CMPID=ene070118


Difficult question: What implications for a society where many women do not become mothers?

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Re: Pregnancy rewires women's brains
« Reply #162 on: July 01, 2018, 04:34:24 PM »


https://www.popsci.com/pregnancy-re-wires-brains-moms-to-be?CMPID=ene070118


Difficult question: What implications for a society where many women do not become mothers?


Look at europe today. Plunging birthrates and a lot of lefty catladies destroying their nations from within. See German Hillary as a perfect example.


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Re: Pregnancy rewires women's brains
« Reply #163 on: July 02, 2018, 05:38:06 PM »


https://www.popsci.com/pregnancy-re-wires-brains-moms-to-be?CMPID=ene070118


Difficult question: What implications for a society where many women do not become mothers?


Look at europe today. Plunging birthrates and a lot of lefty catladies destroying their nations from within. See German Hillary as a perfect example.



https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/dying-europes-leaders-have-no-children/news-story/9e0106b5ea1a6d05e39a57caf883db5d


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Comedy
« Reply #168 on: October 17, 2018, 03:32:12 PM »

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Income disparity analyzed
« Reply #169 on: December 11, 2018, 01:49:44 PM »
William wrote: "“They find that male train and bus drivers worked about 83 percent more overtime than their female colleagues and were twice as likely to accept an overtime shift—which pays time-and-a-half—on short notice and that around twice as many women as men never took overtime. The male workers took 48 percent fewer unpaid hours off under the Family Medical Leave Act each year. Female workers were more likely to take less desirable routes if it meant working fewer nights, weekends, and holidays. Parenthood turns out to be an important factor. Fathers were more likely than childless men to want the extra cash from overtime, and mothers were more likely to want time off than childless women. “The gap of $0.89 in our setting,” the authors concluded, “can be explained entirely by the fact that, while having the same choice sets in the workplace, women and men make different choices.”


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Re: Income disparity analyzed
« Reply #170 on: December 12, 2018, 05:36:53 AM »
The income gap is zero when you compare people with equal circumstances.

Women have a huge advantage going forward if you believe college is where learning occurs.

College class of 2017 is 58.5% women, 41.5% men, (0% other).
http://www.aei.org/publication/prediction-no-2017-graduation-speaker-will-mention-this-the-growing-gender-college-degree-gap-favoring-women/

Look at STEM degrees and those percentages more than flip.  Who is steering the best and brightest women into social justice gender equity degrees instead of tech and curing brain cancer?

Inner City Education:  Poor Girls Are Leaving Their Brothers Behind
As a college education becomes increasingly important in today’s economy, it’s girls, not boys, who are succeeding in school.
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/11/gender-education-gap/546677/

But within STEM you have Alexandria Ocasio who has a $280,000 degree from Boston University, tended bar in 2017 and doesn't know diddly about economics.  What she does know isn't so.  Apparently they don't get to capitalism in the first four years of economics.  Why don't they just call it a B.S. in indoctrination?
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Re: Men & Women
« Reply #171 on: December 12, 2018, 07:05:27 AM »
" The income gap is zero when you compare people with equal circumstances."

For some time now I kept hearing that women make less the male doctors.

I am thinking how is that even possible when income is based on insurance medicare rates etc
An article some months came back from a gender warrior about how academic women are being paid maybe 5 to  10 % less then male counterparts in , get this, -

ACADEMIA!! 

IF true, then how ironic the academics who are the propagandists for social justice are the very group that may be paying those with vaginas less then those with penises.

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WSJ: Did Chivalry go down with the Titanic?
« Reply #172 on: December 16, 2018, 01:36:19 AM »


Did Chivalry Go Down With the Titanic?
Social evolutions of the past century have dashed apart old sex roles and notions of self-sacrifice.
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By Lance Morrow


In Andrew Roberts’s fine new biography of Winston Churchill, I found a letter the great man wrote to his wife, Clementine, just after the Titanic sank in 1912.

Churchill remarked that the behavior of the male passengers “reflects nothing but honour upon our civilization.”

He wrote: “I cannot help feeling proud of our race and its traditions as proved by this event. Boatloads of women and children tossing on the sea safe and sound—and the rest—silence. Honour to their memory. . . . How differently imperial Rome or Ancient Greece would have settled the problem. The swells, the potentates would have gone off with their concubines and pet slaves and soldier guards . . . whoever could bribe the crew would have had the preference and the rest could go to hell. But such ethics could neither build Titanics with science nor lose them with honour.”

The passage is majestic, Churchillian and, on close inspection, not quite accurate in its understanding of what happened that night. Some male passengers behaved badly, and it might have been only the ship’s officers directing the loading of the boats who kept the male passengers back until the women and children were seated. The captain froze in dismay but had the good grace to go down with the ship; the chairman of the White Star Line, J. Bruce Ismay, got onto one of the lifeboats and survived, somewhat to his shame.

Still, bearing Churchill’s chivalric version in mind, it’s hard to resist wondering how men and women in 2018 would behave if their ship were to strike an iceberg. Women and children first? Stiff upper lip as the cold North Atlantic closes over gentlemen in dinner jackets? “Nearer, My God, to Thee”?

Churchill’s Kiplingesque reference to “our race and its traditions” would seem offensive now. Would the social evolutions of the past century, including recent politics of gender, have any bearing on the behavior of men and women and on the life-or-death choices they made on the deck of a sinking ship? Or is human behavior in these matters—courage or cowardice, selfishness or sacrifice—an unchangeable basic over the centuries, unaffected by politics or ideology?

Would men today feel the same imperative of self-sacrifice as they did in 1912? Would female passengers be inclined to reject such male selflessness as sexist? Or is ideology moot once you hit an iceberg? Would today’s women—to prove they can die as selflessly as men—offer their places in the lifeboats to men? Would such a gesture parse ideologically?

Or, in the absence of the old gentility—under which men were expected to hold the door for women, to rise when they entered the room, and to give up their seats in lifeboats—would the simpler principle of dog-eat-dog assert itself? Would men and women fight tooth and nail on an equal basis over the chance to go on living? Is it possible that the doctrine of equality has, among other things, relieved the male of his duty to behave like a gentleman and left him free to be a cad?

At the time the Titanic went down, William Howard Taft was president—a good and sweet-natured man who weighed more than 300 pounds, enough to sink a ship by himself: a white elephant of the old decencies. Taft undoubtedly would have seen to the safety of women and children and then retired to share the fate of John Jacob Astor, Benjamin Guggenheim and other gentlemen who went down that night. Taft’s predecessor, Teddy Roosevelt, would have been gaudily masculine in his martyrdom. Taft’s successor, Woodrow Wilson, would have slid beneath the waters—a saint of gothic countenance. Those three presidents had been raised in the ideals of bourgeois knightliness. The man’s duty was to give his life, if necessary. The woman’s duty was to live, for the sake of the children.

When I read Churchill’s comment on the behavior of the men on the Titanic, I could not help thinking of Donald Trump. The Titanic was launched on a wave of Trumpian hyperbole in 1912 as the greatest, most luxurious, most beautiful liner ever built—and the safest. It sounded like a Trump project. Mr. Trump could have imagined himself at the helm of the great ship setting forth—“glorying in his glory,” in Homer’s phrase.

But what next? What if his great project were hull-gashed and sinking? How would Mr. Trump behave? (How would you? How would I?)

Noblesse oblige is not an entirely obsolete moral style, but it has been to a degree discredited as elitist preening and even as a form of oppression. It was a borrowed British reflex anyway, never an absolutely American one, except as preached by Groton’s headmaster, Endicott Peabody, to boys like Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Of Mr. Trump, who can say? He has become a litmus and a Rorschach test. His enemies are certain he would push women and children aside and claim the biggest lifeboat for himself. Drowning, after all, is for losers.

But that’s the predictable answer. Mr. Trump’s reflexes are unusual. In a previous life, he was Stanley Kowalski. He comes from a different part of the American forest—from somewhere beyond the mountains, so to speak, a region of American defiance more authentic and primitive and disreputable than the instincts of the bien-pensant.

He has a talent—a compulsion—to surprise. His election was a wildly unexpected American evolution and his political apotheosis has bent American presidential history toward magic realism—a game in which he makes his own rules and plays the Tasmanian devil. It is at least possible that, in an ultimate gesture of effrontery, he would choose to go down with the ship. Even in death, the pleasures of confounding one’s enemies may be delicious—metaphysical.

Mr. Morrow, a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, is a former essayist for Time.

Appeared in the December 15, 2018, print edition.

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Re: WSJ: Did Chivalry go down with the Titanic?
« Reply #173 on: December 16, 2018, 02:15:49 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D6iu-1B-BI

"None of you have to go, but we are the only help they have."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cajun-navy-volunteers-help-evacuate-north-carolina-nursing-home-residents/

How many of the above are Republican, NRA members and members of a Christian denomination? Probably about 100% I'd guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KrQsVKcjC0










Did Chivalry Go Down With the Titanic?
Social evolutions of the past century have dashed apart old sex roles and notions of self-sacrifice.
263 Comments
By Lance Morrow


In Andrew Roberts’s fine new biography of Winston Churchill, I found a letter the great man wrote to his wife, Clementine, just after the Titanic sank in 1912.

Churchill remarked that the behavior of the male passengers “reflects nothing but honour upon our civilization.”

He wrote: “I cannot help feeling proud of our race and its traditions as proved by this event. Boatloads of women and children tossing on the sea safe and sound—and the rest—silence. Honour to their memory. . . . How differently imperial Rome or Ancient Greece would have settled the problem. The swells, the potentates would have gone off with their concubines and pet slaves and soldier guards . . . whoever could bribe the crew would have had the preference and the rest could go to hell. But such ethics could neither build Titanics with science nor lose them with honour.”

The passage is majestic, Churchillian and, on close inspection, not quite accurate in its understanding of what happened that night. Some male passengers behaved badly, and it might have been only the ship’s officers directing the loading of the boats who kept the male passengers back until the women and children were seated. The captain froze in dismay but had the good grace to go down with the ship; the chairman of the White Star Line, J. Bruce Ismay, got onto one of the lifeboats and survived, somewhat to his shame.

Still, bearing Churchill’s chivalric version in mind, it’s hard to resist wondering how men and women in 2018 would behave if their ship were to strike an iceberg. Women and children first? Stiff upper lip as the cold North Atlantic closes over gentlemen in dinner jackets? “Nearer, My God, to Thee”?

Churchill’s Kiplingesque reference to “our race and its traditions” would seem offensive now. Would the social evolutions of the past century, including recent politics of gender, have any bearing on the behavior of men and women and on the life-or-death choices they made on the deck of a sinking ship? Or is human behavior in these matters—courage or cowardice, selfishness or sacrifice—an unchangeable basic over the centuries, unaffected by politics or ideology?

Would men today feel the same imperative of self-sacrifice as they did in 1912? Would female passengers be inclined to reject such male selflessness as sexist? Or is ideology moot once you hit an iceberg? Would today’s women—to prove they can die as selflessly as men—offer their places in the lifeboats to men? Would such a gesture parse ideologically?

Or, in the absence of the old gentility—under which men were expected to hold the door for women, to rise when they entered the room, and to give up their seats in lifeboats—would the simpler principle of dog-eat-dog assert itself? Would men and women fight tooth and nail on an equal basis over the chance to go on living? Is it possible that the doctrine of equality has, among other things, relieved the male of his duty to behave like a gentleman and left him free to be a cad?

At the time the Titanic went down, William Howard Taft was president—a good and sweet-natured man who weighed more than 300 pounds, enough to sink a ship by himself: a white elephant of the old decencies. Taft undoubtedly would have seen to the safety of women and children and then retired to share the fate of John Jacob Astor, Benjamin Guggenheim and other gentlemen who went down that night. Taft’s predecessor, Teddy Roosevelt, would have been gaudily masculine in his martyrdom. Taft’s successor, Woodrow Wilson, would have slid beneath the waters—a saint of gothic countenance. Those three presidents had been raised in the ideals of bourgeois knightliness. The man’s duty was to give his life, if necessary. The woman’s duty was to live, for the sake of the children.

When I read Churchill’s comment on the behavior of the men on the Titanic, I could not help thinking of Donald Trump. The Titanic was launched on a wave of Trumpian hyperbole in 1912 as the greatest, most luxurious, most beautiful liner ever built—and the safest. It sounded like a Trump project. Mr. Trump could have imagined himself at the helm of the great ship setting forth—“glorying in his glory,” in Homer’s phrase.

But what next? What if his great project were hull-gashed and sinking? How would Mr. Trump behave? (How would you? How would I?)

Noblesse oblige is not an entirely obsolete moral style, but it has been to a degree discredited as elitist preening and even as a form of oppression. It was a borrowed British reflex anyway, never an absolutely American one, except as preached by Groton’s headmaster, Endicott Peabody, to boys like Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Of Mr. Trump, who can say? He has become a litmus and a Rorschach test. His enemies are certain he would push women and children aside and claim the biggest lifeboat for himself. Drowning, after all, is for losers.

But that’s the predictable answer. Mr. Trump’s reflexes are unusual. In a previous life, he was Stanley Kowalski. He comes from a different part of the American forest—from somewhere beyond the mountains, so to speak, a region of American defiance more authentic and primitive and disreputable than the instincts of the bien-pensant.

He has a talent—a compulsion—to surprise. His election was a wildly unexpected American evolution and his political apotheosis has bent American presidential history toward magic realism—a game in which he makes his own rules and plays the Tasmanian devil. It is at least possible that, in an ultimate gesture of effrontery, he would choose to go down with the ship. Even in death, the pleasures of confounding one’s enemies may be delicious—metaphysical.

Mr. Morrow, a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, is a former essayist for Time.

Appeared in the December 15, 2018, print edition.


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Re: Men & Women
« Reply #174 on: December 16, 2018, 02:23:02 AM »
Heroes they are most certainly, but I'm not sure that the comparison to the Titanic and the question asked by the piece is answered.

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Re: Men & Women
« Reply #175 on: December 16, 2018, 02:31:56 AM »
Heroes they are most certainly, but I'm not sure that the comparison to the Titanic and the question asked by the piece is answered.

"Would female passengers be inclined to reject such male selflessness as sexist?" No. Feminism is about protecting and enhancing female privilege while also gaining male privilege without the attendant sacrifice required.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSKerypwUDM

No feminists are demanding women register for the draft and face combat postings. They just want women who choose to go to the military have all the career perks without actually having to meet the same standards.



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The real answer then
« Reply #182 on: May 01, 2019, 05:32:55 AM »
is to do away with male and female sports
and just have co ed sports in every thing

No matter how I think about this I come back to the same conclusion :  this is about as dumb as anything else from the LEFT:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/trans-woman-sets-world-records-olympian-decries-pointless-unfair-playing-field/

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Sorry kids
« Reply #183 on: September 12, 2019, 05:21:37 AM »
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/shawn-mendes-camila-cabello-kiss_n_5d7a0bbfe4b0a938a42e57f3

you need to watch Greta Garbo and Clark Gable movies if you want to do it right !

Glad Huff post has one article not about Trump.

I give them an A for effort

keep practicing !

the movie offers will roll in ...........
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Re: The real answer then
« Reply #184 on: October 22, 2019, 05:56:23 PM »
https://www.thecollegefix.com/male-to-female-professor-wins-womens-cycling-championship-again-taunts-female-critics/

is to do away with male and female sports
and just have co ed sports in every thing

No matter how I think about this I come back to the same conclusion :  this is about as dumb as anything else from the LEFT:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/trans-woman-sets-world-records-olympian-decries-pointless-unfair-playing-field/

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"Dr: Rachal Mckinnon
« Reply #185 on: October 23, 2019, 05:27:17 AM »
The *philosophy* professor has a PhD in making arguments but should be using real logic not twisted arguments that use belittling those who disagree ( "bigots"), saying because some play along with the ruse that others should (my doctor calls me a girl as i want), false tenets (stereotype is men are *always* stronger than women - who ever said that ?), and outright calling another person A(Koch) a "trash human being" for apparently his own way of thinking .

In short I don't know how this confused person ever got a PhD in philosophy making illogical and confused arguments that don't work

PS: and no , *science* has not settled this .....

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« Reply #186 on: November 26, 2019, 05:49:12 PM »
" While in D.C., Parker got another text from Minton on the night of Nov. 4, telling her that she would meet a guy named “Howie”


https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/whatever-happened-to-the-other-wall-street-millionaire-1832771530

The Howie I knew WAS a really nice guy .  never heard him say a bad word about anyone.  Indeed he was a gentleman.

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« Reply #187 on: January 20, 2020, 04:41:41 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2020/01/19/watch-gop-rep-greg-steube-not-one-democrat-voted-to-protect-womens-sports/

Bruce could have been the first both mens and womens decath winner.

Of all the stupid stuff...........