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Beware The Wrath Of Patient Men
« Reply #350 on: August 11, 2019, 07:21:31 PM »
https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/08/beware-wrath-of-patient-men.html

SUNDAY, AUGUST 11, 2019
Beware The Wrath Of Patient Men



Dear Leftards:

You irrepressible commie halfwits think you've got the cards. You're the idiot talking tough with the shotgun in your hand, and you're about to get comeuppance. In Louis L'Amour's memorable phrase, you're about to have your meathouse torn down. With a mere couple of nutbags (mainly your own nutbags, nota bene) doing what nutbags do, you imagine you've got enough pull now to leverage your way into more asinine abridgments of the Constitution.

You haven't, you won't, and you really, really need to knock it off.
I remind you of this while you've got your limbs and most of your teeth all still attached.

We're really not kidding.
You've had all the slices of our cake you're ever getting.

Step. AWAY. From the table.
STFU, keep your hands in plain sight, and walk away, and you might live through this.

And for the cynical timid souls on the other side suffering from Stockholm Syndrome and normalcy bias, desist.
Re-think.

Heller and McDonald, and the appellate decisions that set that table, are now settled black-letter law, and everyone who cares knows that. In their bones.

You cannot unring that bell.

And ammo is as much a part of "arms" in the 2nd A. as the guns themselves, so that dog won't hunt either.

People in CA watched one lone lunatic, Dorner, tie this state up from Oregon to Mexico, for a week...for one rogue ex-cop.
The CHP wasn't writing any tickets, because every cruiser was sitting on a freeway onramp, looking for him to show up. The paper-tiger LAPD was shooting at anything that moved, they were so fearful of the wrath of just one guy, and not a very bright one at that. (Which made it a fair fight, in the end.)

So the limits of your actual power are now common knowledge, even in the bluest states.

A lot of people thought we'd be facing ramped up anti-gun legislation long before now, because Shrillary and the Clinton Family Crime Syndicate looked like a shoe-in...until she wasn't.

And serious people were ready, then, to open the ball you're itching for now.

If TPTB were to decide they could set the last vestiges of the Constitution on fire, there's more than a few that would take it upon themselves as a point of honor, not to wait cowering inside their homes, but to go out hunting OPFOR, 24/7/365. And they'd get more than one scalp apiece.

Two lunkhead "snipers" in D.C. tied the District up for a month, and none of their shots over 100 yards. What do you suppose will happen when the people involved can hit their targets at 600 yards all the live long day?

Twenty such would turn this country on its head.

A hundred would mean guerrilla war and martial law.

A thousand such, and it's a war that Team Oppression will never win.
(Afghanistan ring a bell? Vietnam? Stop me if you've heard this one...)

And the conservative odds are that once it started, it wouldn't stay twenty, a hundred, or a thousand.

It would be a million.

Maybe several.

We barely have that many full-time military troops in the Army and Marines combined, right now, and were those troops to join in, they'd be attrited to nothing in a season or two, at the outside. And if they ever opened fire on anyone, they'd just swell the ranks of the insurgency a thousandfold, with every volley.
Not to mention a non-zero number who would switch sides at the first opportunity.
The military you think you'll use wouldn't be a force, it would be a resupply point.

Public officials would be in hiding.

And at that point, government ceases to function, or exist, in any real sense.
Once you have open warfare, you don't have any America to save any more.

All you Leftards have is B.S. and bluster, and that never even won a playground fight, let alone a shooting war.

And most of the people you'd be facing have seen the elephant already, and been in shooting wars, real ones,  not Antifa airsoft cosplay slapfights, nor the likes of Pete Williams and Shrillary remembering that time they parachuted into combat on a flying unicorn under sniper fire with the 82nd Airborne.

They already know what they're doing, they have their logistics on their closet shelf, and they'll take Leviathan apart with millions of bites, the same way ants eat an elephant.

This is not a zipper you ought to pull, but if you do, what falls on you after is going to be so awesomely terrible that you'll stare in wonderment, right up until it smacks the ever-loving shit right out of your heads, and kills you with as much compassion as a bulldozer running over maggots.

All it needs is a single match, and the your side is flicking lighters in a room full of gasoline and gunpowder.

Now is not the time to bet on things going like they always went.
It's not headed that way, and the physics of what will ensue guarantee the pieces won't even come back after the explosions in the same time zone.

In short, minions of Leftardia and Stupidia, you have blundered into a minefield, on a pogo stick.
Stop what you're doing, tiptoe out, and pray to whatever deity you think appropriate that you get away with your skins.

Because if you insist on pushing your revolution, you're going to get the war of which you cannot grasp, and the results of which you cannot even conjure in your wildest fever-swamp nightmares.

And your opponents, who've been stacking in supplies and loading magazines, are shifting from backing away, and hoping the fight you long for doesn't come, and instead coming to a feeling of thinking it's about time to roll up their sleeves, and end you.

Not your party.
Not your progressive communist utopia.
You.
For all values of that word.

Every goddamned traitorous last one of you. Followed by your spouses, your children, your pets, your semi-domesticated illegal alien hordes, your schemes, your putrescent institutions, your metastasizing socialist programs, and every festering vestige of pustulence you've spewed onto a country you do not understand, didn't build, and over which you and yours will never rule.

Your pendulum is out of gas (and had you the wit, you might have noticed that in 2016, and gone home to pout quietly until you could function in polite society), and the pushback if you dare it, is going to be measured in megadeaths, if not actually megatons. Stalin, Mao, Fidel, and Pol Pot all had it your way. Look for those scales to be balanced, at your expense, in the upcoming sportiness you really do not want, and cannot comprehend.

And if the Deplorables you misunderestimated ever set out to do that, in earnest, people will talk about you and your fate for millennia, the way they talk about Carthage after the Third Punic War now.

You are running out of chances, and your continued efforts in the service of igniting that fuse are rapidly transitioning, in saner minds, from being a bug in the system, to being a feature of it, and a consummation devoutly to be wished.

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
But we aren't in a democracy, and never have been. A fact of which your Common Core miseducation has left you blissfully clueless.
We are and always have been a constitutional republic, which notes that the sheep hereabouts may be armed, lest the wolves forget the limits of their franchise.

And lest you misunderstand that reality, what's going on the menu if you continue to agitate beyond your bounds, is you.

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Communism Is Not Coming To America, It’s Here, And Millions Will Suffer
« Reply #351 on: August 11, 2019, 09:02:37 PM »
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/opinion/2019/08/08/communism-is-not-coming-to-america-its-here-and-millions-will-suffer/

Communism Is Not Coming To America, It’s Here, And Millions Will Suffer
by L Todd Wood August 8, 20193 5092

I spoke to several elderly Russian emigres this week while traveling abroad. They all had come to the West prior to the fall of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s. They now live in the United States and return to their Motherland occasionally to visit family and old friends. They all had a very similar story to tell.

This column is supposed to be about national security and geopolitics. But these recent conversations reinforced the feeling I have had for some time regarding our security: The greatest threat the United States faces is from inside — the scourge of socialism. 

One woman in her 80s — I’ll call her Svetlana — was heartbroken. The fear and horror was evident in her eyes as she talked about her experiences as a young person growing up in the USSR.

“I left the Soviet Union to escape communism, socialism, Marxism — whatever you want to call it,” she recalled. “America was and still is the only place in the world you are truly free, and you are losing it. Now the evil is coming here; it is all around us, especially where I live in California. These people are ignorant, they have no historical knowledge, and they are very dangerous. The ideology is seductive to America’s naive youth and always ends up with people dead.”

Of course, many of us have been saying the same thing for a while now, warning of the historical dangers of “progressivism.” But listening to someone who has experienced its evil extremes firsthand somehow made a much larger impression than anything I could have ever written or said.  You don’t have to look very hard to validate concerns that today’s Democratic Party is really a neo-Bolshevik party in faint disguise.

Having lost all major policy battles in recent years to conservatives (and lost elections and power as well), their only recourse to avoid political oblivion is the siren call to revenge and retribution. One Democratic presidential candidate went so far as to publish the names and addresses of all Trump donors in his jurisdiction — sickening. The rule of law has gone out the window. 

Identity politics is all about fanning the flames of envy, something that any committed Leninist would have instinctively understood. The Bolsheviks relentlessly attacked the “patriarchy” of the day — tsarist Russia. We all know what followed, for the Soviet Union and the world. Russia has never recovered from their folly and cruelty and won’t in our lifetime.

The only thing we older Americans, those of us with personal memories of the Cold War, can do is point out the eventual consequences of communism (death, destruction, misery, loss of freedom) to our youth. It’s like talking to your kids about the dangers of drug abuse over and over again until the message sinks in. The same concept applies with evil political ideologies — talk to them.

Alexander Kitchenko, a Russian national, commented on social media this week, “Looking back at history of Russia I can tell you that Soviet totalitarian communism also started ‘lightly,’ with people who were against ‘patriarchy.’ They were all about free love, abortions, redefinition of language and often were quarreling inside their ranks. But then there was one most militant group, which slowly dominated all the hippie-style freaks and later executed most of them in the name of ‘revolution.’”

“History repeats itself, but now it is happening on your soil and I can only pray that it will be stopped somehow before it is too late,” Mr. Kitchenko commented.

I think his words speak for themselves. 

Originally posted at The Washington Times

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Re: Second American Civil War
« Reply #352 on: August 11, 2019, 11:12:47 PM »
Some thoughts on "The Wrath of Patient Men":

Given the strange twists we can see these days, I want to underline that I don't think any of us here are calling for getting it on, merely saying that there is some point, and may it never come, at which the obligation of free men is to defend our Natural and Constitutional rights by any means necessary.

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Re: Second American Civil War
« Reply #353 on: August 12, 2019, 06:21:35 AM »
Some thoughts on "The Wrath of Patient Men":

Given the strange twists we can see these days, I want to underline that I don't think any of us here are calling for getting it on, merely saying that there is some point, and may it never come, at which the obligation of free men is to defend our Natural and Constitutional rights by any means necessary.

http://longisland.news12.com/story/40889590/death-camps-for-trump-supporters-now-posters-spark-outrage-in-patchogue

It's not the right that's lighting the match. It's been five weeks since Andy Ngo's felonious assault with no arrests. Did anyone get arrested for breaking Tucker Carlson's door? What would be the likely outcome of wearing a MAGA hat in public be for you, Crafty?


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Clarion Project: On Neo-Nazi threat and Tucker Carlson
« Reply #354 on: August 12, 2019, 01:02:58 PM »
I consider both Clarion Project and Tucker to be  "good guys", indeed I am quite a fan of both.


https://clarionproject.org/tucker-carlson-white-supremacy-hoax/

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Re: Second American Civil War
« Reply #356 on: August 12, 2019, 01:14:56 PM »
Not really responsive to CP's list of actual neo-nazi attacks on Jews.

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Re: Second American Civil War
« Reply #357 on: August 12, 2019, 01:23:29 PM »
Not really responsive to CP's list of actual neo-nazi attacks on Jews.

Let me know when it gets close to the number of muslim attacks on Jews.

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white supremacy on the rise ; or is it?
« Reply #358 on: August 12, 2019, 03:03:27 PM »
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-obsession-with-white-supremacy-violence-is-based-on-cooked-studies

Even the murderers like in El Paso while loosely being affiliated with white supremacy ideology on social media
and had in his manifesto ethnic hatred etc
does not as far as I have ever read, been part of any organized conspiracy  on the part of "white nationalists" etc to start murdering minorities .
around the country.  As far as I know he as others have acted as "lone wolfs"

Like my previous post perhaps Tucker should not have called the situation a "hoax".. Not a hoax or not to be ignored,
but I redouble my claim that he is 100% correct in stating the whole issue is extremely exaggerated.

For every black murdered by a white supremacist acting out of pure racial vendetta is probably no more than 1 out of 200 blacks murdered by other blacks.

yet we have the MSM running around  saying men in white hoods and  swastika tattoos are murdering blacks or latinos etc  like a plague of storm troopers that is "growing" "exponentially"

Rush said there were how many klansman in US "8000" max

what was it in the early 1900s , 4 to 5  million when the us population was 1/3 of today ?

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Re: white supremacy on the rise ; or is it?
« Reply #359 on: August 12, 2019, 03:44:50 PM »
I tend to think the recent mass shooters were more of the "I want to see the world burn" nihilists rather than motivated by other ideas.



https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-obsession-with-white-supremacy-violence-is-based-on-cooked-studies

Even the murderers like in El Paso while loosely being affiliated with white supremacy ideology on social media
and had in his manifesto ethnic hatred etc
does not as far as I have ever read, been part of any organized conspiracy  on the part of "white nationalists" etc to start murdering minorities .
around the country.  As far as I know he as others have acted as "lone wolfs"

Like my previous post perhaps Tucker should not have called the situation a "hoax".. Not a hoax or not to be ignored,
but I redouble my claim that he is 100% correct in stating the whole issue is extremely exaggerated.

For every black murdered by a white supremacist acting out of pure racial vendetta is probably no more than 1 out of 200 blacks murdered by other blacks.

yet we have the MSM running around  saying men in white hoods and  swastika tattoos are murdering blacks or latinos etc  like a plague of storm troopers that is "growing" "exponentially"

Rush said there were how many klansman in US "8000" max

what was it in the early 1900s , 4 to 5  million when the us population was 1/3 of today ?

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Re: Second American Civil War
« Reply #360 on: August 12, 2019, 04:21:38 PM »
In that the Dems ARE looking to replace American voters with undocumented foreigners who happen to be brown, , ,

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The White Supremacy Hoax
« Reply #361 on: August 13, 2019, 08:42:36 AM »
https://www.amgreatness.com/2019/08/12/the-white-supremacy-hoax/

The White Supremacy Hoax
A generation of domestic peace is increasingly difficult to imagine.

 Angelo Codevilla  - August 12th, 2019
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The specter of white supremacy haunts America. Let us empower the government to crush it.

Just yesterday, “the deplorables” were to be deplored because they were “racist, sexist, homophobic,” clingers to “God and guns,” and Russian dupes to boot. Today, the agility and unanimity with which our politicians and media—heck, the ruling class—have shifted to indicting roughly 72 percent of the population as white supremacists, likely violent, would fill with envy their homologues in China, Cuba, North Korea, and other tyrannical places. By comparison, Joseph Goebbels had sloppy message discipline. Not even the Soviets in their salad days were so “on message!”

One may suppose that our ruling class merely intends to energize its constituencies and cower the opposition in the 2020 elections. But this is no game. Their proposals would impose pre-punishment for pre-crimes on persons accused or “suspected” of being a “white supremacist.” By whom? On the basis of what?

In practice, a “white supremacist” is anyone whom anyone in power dislikes enough to so label him. Who would accept being outlawed at will? Our ruling class plays with matches in a house drenched in gasoline.

Here is the latest. The Wall Street Journal on Saturday featured an essay by one Clint Watts, formerly of the FBI and West Point’s Counter Terrorism Center. Watts makes those proposals using the word “white” 16 times in 18 paragraphs. The sociopolitical ideas rife among white people are the main matrix of terrorism in America, Watts contends. Racial profiling, anyone?

Bemoaning the fact that U.S. law now restricts surveillance of, never mind restrictions on, U.S. persons to those who have committed or may be about to commit crimes, Watts proposes legislation that would permit designating persons associated with what the government may identify as “white supremacist ideology” as subject to surveillance to “preemptively assess whether these white supremacists are taking a radical turn toward violence.”

Watts also proposes “red flag” laws, that would allow the government to take away weapons from someone so designated. Loss of weapons would be the least of burdens imposed on anyone so “red-flagged.” Career, reputation, possibly family, would be gone because someone in the notoriously impartial FBI so decided, perhaps with the agreement of the highly scrupulous FISA court, subsequent to ex parte, secret proceedings.

This has become ruling-class conventional wisdom. Desire to wage war on ordinary Americans—to disadvantage them and even to kill them—had long been bubbling in the ruling class’s basements. The countless, nearly identical pronouncements from on high in recent days can be taken as an announcement that the ruling class has raised them into its forceful mainstream.

In January 2012, the Department of Homeland Security, in cooperation with the University of Maryland, published a study titled “Hot Spots of Terrorism and Other Crimes in the United States, 1979-2008.” It classified persons who it judged to be “suspicious of centralized federal authority” and “reverent of individual liberty” as “extreme right wing terrorists.” So-called studies published by Clint Watts’ West Point center use the same typology. Skeptical of the government? You’re a potential terrorist.

In July 2012, Colonel Kevin Benson of the U.S. Army’s University of Foreign Military and Cultural Studies at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, and Jennifer Weber of the University of Kansas, published an article in the Small Wars Journal titled “Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A ‘Vision’ of the Future.” Benson and Weber argued that the U.S. Army should prepare itself for contingencies such as “extremist militia motivated by the goals of the ‘tea party’ movement” seizing a small town. They contend, moreover, that Army’s “Operating Concept, 2016-2028” obliges “the military to execute without pause and as professionally as if it were acting overseas.”

None of this is law, or even official policy. It simply reflects the evolving identities and predilections of persons in power.

Today, our ruling class has come to define itself in terms of the will to humiliate “the deplorables,” as it subdues their disrespect. It is confident that the Republican Party won’t help the deplorables, and that President Trump will get out of the way quietly once he’s made some noise. And deplorables have this quaint habit of obeying laws—the fools!

All true. But the logic of the ruling class’s campaign against white supremacy cannot end in the deplorables’ peaceful submission because that campaign itself has no natural end. Some of the class’s components are sure to push for ever-stricter measures. More surely, an inherently abusive campaign of racial profiling itself guarantees deadly friction. One of these days, some misdirected SWAT team will shoot it out with innocent people, with casualties on both sides, or some person unjustly ruined will take his tormentors to the grave with him. One police force will fight another. The paths to civil war are many. A generation of domestic peace is increasingly difficult to imagine.

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The Second American Civil War and the collapse of the rule of law
« Reply #367 on: September 01, 2019, 07:09:06 PM »
https://www.americanpartisan.org/2019/08/the-scourge-of-right-wing-extremism/
THE SCOURGE OF RIGHT WING EXTREMISM
Posted by Bryce Sharper | Aug 31, 2019 | Bryce Sharper, Culture, Opinion, Uncategorized




The Scourge of Right Wing Extremism

Our society is being given over to deception.  This seems terrifying until you realize that it’s part of God’s plan for collapsing civilizations.  When a people makes itself a dead carcass, notes Matthew Henry, there is nothing left but God’s judgment.  This is just the pattern of history.

One of the most popular deceptions is that there are right wing extremists everywhere when the exact opposite is true unless the definition of “right wing extremist” is expanded as shown in the photo.  Militia members are a vanishingly-small percentage of the population, like Klansmen or real white supremacists.  They have no influence on our society nor any effect.

Meanwhile, the real militias – transnational gangs like 18th Street (Barrio 18) and MS-13 have hundreds of thousands of members and comparatively no government or media opposition despite their murders, kidnappings, trafficking, and extortion. 

They’re just accepted as the new normal.

In Homeland Siege, John Poole noted with astonishment that MS-13 seems to operate with impunity in Washington DC’s backyard of Northern Virginia.  He wisely declined to speculate as to why this was the case.  We do know that the oldest trick in the book is to create a problem and sell the solution.  We need to look to the South to Mexico for examples of this and to see how it ends.  The Plaza System of cartels was created by Mexico’s PRI for the ultimate benefit of PRI members.  The PRI itself is like the Democratic party which assimilates Lefter elements within Mexico like Marxists guerrillas from the Soviet era.  When the PAN was elected (Vicente Fox), the old agreements were nullified and the cartels figured they’d rather be the government and tax public officials rather than the other way around. The past 20 years since Vicente Fox’s election have been full of bloodshed.  The Mexicans desperately elected AMLO the same way we elected Trump.  Is this shift already occurring within the United States?

Prosecutors said Tuesday the Fulton clique of the gang had been linked to seven killings in the Los Angeles area since 2017, many of which ended with body parts being scattered in mountain passes and remote areas. Most of the killings were the result of a new rule requiring clique prospects to take a life in order to gain entry into the gang, investigators said.
This is new behavior for MS-13 in the United States.  According to Ioan Grillo, initiation murders were limited to El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala because our law enforcement is far more serious.  I can only guess that MS-13 is starting to take our law enforcement far less seriously.  We know this is true: MS-13 threatens local law enforcement out in California.

It also appears they want to stop answering to the Mexican Mafia so there will be a big turf war, just like in Mexico.  This would of course spill over into our prison systems which are dominated by Surenos.  Who knows how violent that would get?

“The desire to secure territorial control may be linked to the desire of the ‘503’ Salvadoran elements of MS-13 to diminish the influence of Eme, the Mexican Mafia over MS-13;[12] Eme exerts control over Los Angeles Area gangs (Sureños) including MS-13:

Law enforcement officials said the two-year spasm of violence was carried out largely by Honduran and Salvadoran immigrants hoping to return MS-13 to its bloody roots. Paul Delacourt, the assistant director in charge of the FBI’s Los Angeles field office, said the bloodshed was motivated in part by the group’s desire to make MS-13 less deferential to the Mexican Mafia, which wields influence over most Hispanic and Latino street gangs in the Los Angeles area.[13]

Tucker Carlson reminds us that defending MS-13 will be on the Dems’ 2020 platform.  I think he’s correct.  Consequently, we see the PRIzation of the Democratic Party accelerating as our PAN (the Republicans) head for 70 years in the wilderness.
It’s astonishing that Hollywood has all this Latin American true crime in literally its own backyard but “Right Wing Extremists” (white people) are somehow still the perennial enemy depicted in many of their productions.  The ultimate irony will occur when MS-13 starts taxing and kidnapping Hollywood execs.  When that happens, you will see an exponential increase in movies and TV shows about mythical violent white supremacists.

I intend to review Robert J. Bunker’s book on the demise of Western democracies and will try to review it in an upcoming article to explore the effect of transnational Latin American gangs and plutocrats on the accelerating demise of our nation-state system.  Until then, stay safe from Right Wing Extremism.



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Re: Second American Civil War
« Reply #368 on: September 01, 2019, 09:07:10 PM »
I will be reflecting on the analogy to the PRI and the Cartels , , ,

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spark for civil war 2020 or 24?
« Reply #369 on: September 02, 2019, 09:34:30 AM »

will be when dems get power and shove down all our throats the
total transformation of the United States:

https://audioboom.com/posts/7350545-the-new-american-civil-war-analogs-for-dred-scott-bloody-kansas-john-brown-and-charleston-mi

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Hard lessons from the Russian civil war
« Reply #370 on: September 03, 2019, 08:33:12 PM »

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When Antifa runs the DA's office
« Reply #371 on: September 04, 2019, 05:00:56 PM »



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67 % of Americans paying attention
« Reply #374 on: October 24, 2019, 04:09:50 PM »

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Red vs blue lawyers
« Reply #375 on: October 24, 2019, 04:22:38 PM »
could this be the first civil war so far being fought by lawyers essentially

twisting , subverting laws, the Courts
spreading  such legal arguments through the media
and the politicians




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Re: Red vs blue lawyers
« Reply #376 on: October 24, 2019, 04:23:40 PM »
It's a full spectrum war.

could this be the first civil war so far being fought by lawyers essentially

twisting , subverting laws, the Courts
spreading  such legal arguments through the media
and the politicians

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Re: Second American Civil War
« Reply #377 on: October 24, 2019, 10:56:34 PM »
Perhaps the "Lawfare" thread would be a better place for discussing this?


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The Cancelled
« Reply #379 on: November 03, 2019, 09:49:40 AM »

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the politicization of science
« Reply #380 on: November 03, 2019, 09:56:04 AM »
The cult of "science" is only pushed when it is convenient science.


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Second American Civil War update
« Reply #381 on: November 05, 2019, 08:41:35 PM »

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Admiral McRaven
« Reply #382 on: November 12, 2019, 03:16:41 PM »


Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President
If President Trump doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office.

By William H. McRaven
Admiral McRaven is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command.

Oct. 17, 2019


Last week I attended two memorable events that reminded me why we care so very much about this nation and also why our future may be in peril.

The first was a change of command ceremony for a storied Army unit in which one general officer passed authority to another. The second event was an annual gala for the Office of Strategic Services (O.S.S.) Society that recognizes past and present members of the intelligence and Special Operations community for their heroism and sacrifice to the nation. What struck me was the stark contrast between the words and deeds heralded at those events — and the words and deeds emanating from the White House.

On the parade field at Fort Bragg, N.C., where tens of thousands of soldiers have marched either preparing to go to war or returning from it, the two generals, highly decorated, impeccably dressed, cleareyed and strong of character, were humbled by the moment.

They understood the awesome responsibility that the nation had placed on their shoulders. They understood that they had an obligation to serve their soldiers and their soldiers’ families. They believed in the American values for which they had been fighting for the past three decades. They had faith that these values were worth sacrificing everything for — including, if necessary, their lives.


Having served with both officers for the past 20 years, I know that they personified all that is good and decent and honorable about the American military with genuineness of their humility, their uncompromising integrity, their willingness to sacrifice all for a worthy cause, and the pride they had in their soldiers.

Later that week, at the O.S.S. Society dinner, there were films and testimonials to the valor of the men and women who had fought in Europe and the Pacific during World War II. We also celebrated the 75th anniversary of D-Day, recognizing those brave Americans and allies who sacrificed so much to fight Nazism and fascism. We were reminded that the Greatest Generation went to war because it believed that we were the good guys — that wherever there was oppression, tyranny or despotism, America would be there. We would be there because freedom mattered. We would be there because the world needed us and if not us, then who?

Also that evening we recognized the incredible sacrifice of a new generation of Americans: an Army Special Forces warrant officer who had been wounded three times, the most recent injury costing him his left leg above the knee. He was still in uniform and still serving. There was an intelligence officer, who embodied the remarkable traits of those men and women who had served in the O.S.S. And a retired Marine general, whose 40 years of service demonstrated all that was honorable about the Corps and public service.

But the most poignant recognition that evening was for a young female sailor who had been killed in Syria serving alongside our allies in the fight against ISIS. Her husband, a former Army Green Beret, accepted the award on her behalf. Like so many that came before her, she had answered the nation’s call and willingly put her life in harm’s way.

For everyone who ever served in uniform, or in the intelligence community, for those diplomats who voice the nation’s principles, for the first responders, for the tellers of truth and the millions of American citizens who were raised believing in American values — you would have seen your reflection in the faces of those we honored last week.

But, beneath the outward sense of hope and duty that I witnessed at these two events, there was an underlying current of frustration, humiliation, anger and fear that echoed across the sidelines. The America that they believed in was under attack, not from without, but from within.

These men and women, of all political persuasions, have seen the assaults on our institutions: on the intelligence and law enforcement community, the State Department and the press. They have seen our leaders stand beside despots and strongmen, preferring their government narrative to our own. They have seen us abandon our allies and have heard the shouts of betrayal from the battlefield. As I stood on the parade field at Fort Bragg, one retired four-star general, grabbed my arm, shook me and shouted, “I don’t like the Democrats, but Trump is destroying the Republic!”

Those words echoed with me throughout the week. It is easy to destroy an organization if you have no appreciation for what makes that organization great. We are not the most powerful nation in the world because of our aircraft carriers, our economy, or our seat at the United Nations Security Council. We are the most powerful nation in the world because we try to be the good guys. We are the most powerful nation in the world because our ideals of universal freedom and equality have been backed up by our belief that we were champions of justice, the protectors of the less fortunate.

But, if we don’t care about our values, if we don’t care about duty and honor, if we don’t help the weak and stand up against oppression and injustice — what will happen to the Kurds, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Syrians, the Rohingyas, the South Sudanese and the millions of people under the boot of tyranny or left abandoned by their failing states?

If our promises are meaningless, how will our allies ever trust us? If we can’t have faith in our nation’s principles, why would the men and women of this nation join the military? And if they don’t join, who will protect us? If we are not the champions of the good and the right, then who will follow us? And if no one follows us — where will the world end up?

President Trump seems to believe that these qualities are unimportant or show weakness. He is wrong. These are the virtues that have sustained this nation for the past 243 years. If we hope to continue to lead the world and inspire a new generation of young men and women to our cause, then we must embrace these values now more than ever.


And if this president doesn’t understand their importance, if this president doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, both domestically and abroad, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office — Republican, Democrat or independent — the sooner, the better. The fate of our Republic depends upon it.


William H. McRaven, a retired Navy admiral, is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command and former chancellor of the University of Texas system.

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Re: Admiral McRaven
« Reply #383 on: November 12, 2019, 05:03:18 PM »
He is a scumbag, SEAL or not.




Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President
If President Trump doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office.

By William H. McRaven
Admiral McRaven is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command.

Oct. 17, 2019


Last week I attended two memorable events that reminded me why we care so very much about this nation and also why our future may be in peril.

The first was a change of command ceremony for a storied Army unit in which one general officer passed authority to another. The second event was an annual gala for the Office of Strategic Services (O.S.S.) Society that recognizes past and present members of the intelligence and Special Operations community for their heroism and sacrifice to the nation. What struck me was the stark contrast between the words and deeds heralded at those events — and the words and deeds emanating from the White House.

On the parade field at Fort Bragg, N.C., where tens of thousands of soldiers have marched either preparing to go to war or returning from it, the two generals, highly decorated, impeccably dressed, cleareyed and strong of character, were humbled by the moment.

They understood the awesome responsibility that the nation had placed on their shoulders. They understood that they had an obligation to serve their soldiers and their soldiers’ families. They believed in the American values for which they had been fighting for the past three decades. They had faith that these values were worth sacrificing everything for — including, if necessary, their lives.


Having served with both officers for the past 20 years, I know that they personified all that is good and decent and honorable about the American military with genuineness of their humility, their uncompromising integrity, their willingness to sacrifice all for a worthy cause, and the pride they had in their soldiers.

Later that week, at the O.S.S. Society dinner, there were films and testimonials to the valor of the men and women who had fought in Europe and the Pacific during World War II. We also celebrated the 75th anniversary of D-Day, recognizing those brave Americans and allies who sacrificed so much to fight Nazism and fascism. We were reminded that the Greatest Generation went to war because it believed that we were the good guys — that wherever there was oppression, tyranny or despotism, America would be there. We would be there because freedom mattered. We would be there because the world needed us and if not us, then who?

Also that evening we recognized the incredible sacrifice of a new generation of Americans: an Army Special Forces warrant officer who had been wounded three times, the most recent injury costing him his left leg above the knee. He was still in uniform and still serving. There was an intelligence officer, who embodied the remarkable traits of those men and women who had served in the O.S.S. And a retired Marine general, whose 40 years of service demonstrated all that was honorable about the Corps and public service.

But the most poignant recognition that evening was for a young female sailor who had been killed in Syria serving alongside our allies in the fight against ISIS. Her husband, a former Army Green Beret, accepted the award on her behalf. Like so many that came before her, she had answered the nation’s call and willingly put her life in harm’s way.

For everyone who ever served in uniform, or in the intelligence community, for those diplomats who voice the nation’s principles, for the first responders, for the tellers of truth and the millions of American citizens who were raised believing in American values — you would have seen your reflection in the faces of those we honored last week.

But, beneath the outward sense of hope and duty that I witnessed at these two events, there was an underlying current of frustration, humiliation, anger and fear that echoed across the sidelines. The America that they believed in was under attack, not from without, but from within.

These men and women, of all political persuasions, have seen the assaults on our institutions: on the intelligence and law enforcement community, the State Department and the press. They have seen our leaders stand beside despots and strongmen, preferring their government narrative to our own. They have seen us abandon our allies and have heard the shouts of betrayal from the battlefield. As I stood on the parade field at Fort Bragg, one retired four-star general, grabbed my arm, shook me and shouted, “I don’t like the Democrats, but Trump is destroying the Republic!”

Those words echoed with me throughout the week. It is easy to destroy an organization if you have no appreciation for what makes that organization great. We are not the most powerful nation in the world because of our aircraft carriers, our economy, or our seat at the United Nations Security Council. We are the most powerful nation in the world because we try to be the good guys. We are the most powerful nation in the world because our ideals of universal freedom and equality have been backed up by our belief that we were champions of justice, the protectors of the less fortunate.

But, if we don’t care about our values, if we don’t care about duty and honor, if we don’t help the weak and stand up against oppression and injustice — what will happen to the Kurds, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Syrians, the Rohingyas, the South Sudanese and the millions of people under the boot of tyranny or left abandoned by their failing states?

If our promises are meaningless, how will our allies ever trust us? If we can’t have faith in our nation’s principles, why would the men and women of this nation join the military? And if they don’t join, who will protect us? If we are not the champions of the good and the right, then who will follow us? And if no one follows us — where will the world end up?

President Trump seems to believe that these qualities are unimportant or show weakness. He is wrong. These are the virtues that have sustained this nation for the past 243 years. If we hope to continue to lead the world and inspire a new generation of young men and women to our cause, then we must embrace these values now more than ever.


And if this president doesn’t understand their importance, if this president doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, both domestically and abroad, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office — Republican, Democrat or independent — the sooner, the better. The fate of our Republic depends upon it.


William H. McRaven, a retired Navy admiral, is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command and former chancellor of the University of Texas system.

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« Reply #384 on: November 12, 2019, 05:56:58 PM »
Is America coming apart:

https://apnews.com/a3b7df66e50f488a841a31ce31124987

well I can't think of ANYTHING that could bring us together more then opening up the borders and even flooding the nation with more illegals and overstayers and anchor babies
can anyone else?

How beautiful. How good for us.
 :roll:

What did anyone think.  We were just going to hug and kiss and sing pepsi generation together?

We are screwed over by Dems and Repubs....

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How to avoid the Second American Civil War
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Re: Second American Civil War
« Reply #390 on: January 16, 2020, 07:53:50 AM »
Summary please?

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The Virginia killbox Pt.1
« Reply #395 on: Today at 07:35:26 PM »
January 17, 2020 at 1407 UTC
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Virginia Killbox Pt. 2
« Reply #396 on: Today at 07:43:14 PM »
Senator Amanda Chase
Yesterday at 6:44 AM ·
Sadly, I am posting this, knowing that the Governor of Virginia has declared a State of Emergency in our state.

I want you to be aware of how we are being set up.

Does the Patriot Act ring a bell?

Does the National Defense Authorization Act ring a bell?

If people show up wearing any kind of uniform, patch or other symbol on their clothing signifying they belong to a militia and something goes wrong, you could/will be held as a domestic terrorist.

If anyone steps out of line, all it takes is one person, it may even be a government plant....if that plant does anything to disrupt the rally, you could/will be arrested as a domestic terrorist.

The Governor, using the media has already set the stage for this to happen.
He has already laid the groundwork to make the entire movement look like insurrection.

It will be used to put the rest of the nation on notice of what will happen to you, if you resist.

They have used the Southern Poverty Law Center over the last 15 years to lay the groundwork.

They have labeled us as potential domestic terrorist for a long time now.

Anyone who has ever related to the 3%er's, a militia, or just belonged to any Patriot group...the groundwork has been laid to brand you as a domestic terrorist.

They have gone out of their way since the Obama years to insure they had us labeled, but it didn't start with Obama. It started with the Patriot Act under the Bush administration.

We are being played by a well oiled machine, these things have been in the works for many years.

They are kicking things into high gear. Military veterans were/are even listed as potential domestic terrorist.

We were told not once, but several times by the current President, “It's Not Me they are after, It's You, The American People.“

Their actions over the last three years have shown you he was right, they are coming after us full speed ahead and they aren't even trying to hide it anymore.

Sic semper tyrannis, keep your head on a swivel and know what's going on around you at all times, at Lobby Day 1/20/20.

Everyone be safe out there....Thus always to tyrants.

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