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DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« on: May 11, 2011, 09:34:24 AM »
In the Hermosa Beach area with Guro Crafty.  Details soon.

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2011, 11:59:42 AM »
Woof!
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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2011, 01:59:40 PM »
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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2011, 03:05:09 PM »
People seem to be responding well to the idea of a goodly portion of the time being spent on how to really hit people with sticks :-D a.k.a. Dog Brothers Real Contact Stickfighting the DBMA way.

Right now I am focused on the DB Tribal, so further developments on this will have to wait until next week.

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2011, 11:51:38 AM »
Woof, Looking forward to hearing more of whats on the menu, for this event. Something along the lines of RCSF Sounds appetizing.  8-)
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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2011, 01:42:19 PM »
I will be fresh out of surgery and in a sling, but plan on being there as a wall flower.  :wink:
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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2011, 04:38:08 PM »
Tell me more, tell me more.  My first hurdle has been cleared. 

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2011, 08:08:38 AM »
Vacation requested & approved guro.

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2011, 08:14:32 AM »
@Francisco:  Yay!

@All:

Sorry I have dawdled on this.  Presing personal matters have intruded heavily on my time this week.  I will get out a proper newsletter and post here early next week.

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2011, 11:36:07 AM »
Woof All:

On August 12-14, 2011 (Friday-Sunday) we will be holding the "Dog Brothers
Martial Arts Training Camp" here in Hermosa Beach (Seven miles south of the
Los Angeles LAX Airport).  Hermosa Beach is a very agreeable place to be,
especially in August; as always, there will be plenty of socializing in the
evenings!

With this year's camp being five weeks before the Sept 18th, 2011 "Dog
Brothers Open Gathering of the Pack", the timing is perfect for the focus of
this year's camp, which will be , , , drum roll please , , , Real Contact
Stick Fighting (RCSFg).  This camp is ideal for relative beginners looking
to raise their learning curve as well as for intermediate and experienced
fighters looking to put themselves to the test at Dog Brothers Gatherings.
For those fighting at the Gathering, this camp will help bring your game up
to a new level.  For those who don't fight, training alongside and with
those who do will help you functionalize your skills more than you may think
possible.

While leaving ourselves free to go with the flow, the planned progression
is:

1) Conceptual Overview:

   a)  Our Theory of Seven Ranges and how it helps us to apply our skills
technically in the adrenal state.  See my article of several years ago
posted in the "Ranges observed in the fights" thread at
http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=769.0  (Also see the "Snake
Range" article from ten years ago at the end of this newsletter);
   b) The Triangle from the Third Dimension:  Getting to the inner ranges
(medio, corto, clinch, and ground) scientifically, whether it be by
combinations, "attacking blocks", or "occupying strikes";
   c) St. Foom:  The art and science of maintaining the outer ranges and
preventing the close;
   d) How RCSFg lays the foundation for "Kali Tudo"-- really applying
weaponry motions empty handed and in street situations (our "Die Less Often"
material) so that we have "Consistency across categories";
   e) Footwork:  Applied triangles and bilateralism;

2) Basic Krabi Krabong for DBMA:  KK is the Thai military weaponry system
from which the combat ring sport of Muay Thai descends.

3) Dos Triques and Advanced Double Stick fighting:  "Triques" is our
neologism for the initials of our subsystem that blends "Kali" and "Krabi
Krabong"-- KKK!  For obvious reasons we want to avoid this!!!  Thus, the bad
pun of Triques for "the three Ks". Dos Triques is the double stick aspect of
"Triques" and is where we install the triangular footwork matrix that
applies in all areas of DBMA.

4) Los Triques:  Although traditional Filipino Martial Art theology posits
that kicking in a weapons fight is a really bad idea, our experience has
been that the KK approach to using of kicks and knees has a lot of merit. We
teach the integration of kicks with stick with triangular footwork in the
single stick portion of Triques.

5) The Science of Closing to Media/Corto/Clinch:  In my opinion, one of the
fortes of DBMA is our ability to get to the inner ranges technically and
scientifically so that we arrive in a dominant manner in good balance with
our eyes open.  This is where we
see Attacking Blocks, Closing Combinations, and Occupying Strikes.

6) The Salty Structure and The Bolo Game:  Named after the legendary Salty
Dog, the Salty Game is the science of fighting from the off lead (weapon in
rear hand)  The Bolo Game works very well from the Salty Structure.

7) Snaggletooth Variations

8) The Trident: Integrating the various games into the footwork matrix.

9) Applied Staff fighting

10) Applied Stick & Knife

11) Stick Clinch

12) Stick grappling

I am in a mood to really lay it down with this material and there is a very
good chance that the material from this camp will become a DBMA DVD
"Advanced Stick Fighting".

So, how much for this veritable cornucopia of stickfighting sagacity?  As
always, we respect that value of your time and money with fair prices:  The
cost is $100 per day, or $250 for all three days.  10% discount for DBMA
Association members, 15% discount for Law Enforcement, and 25% for US (and
NATO allies e.g. Canada) military.


The Adventure continues!
Guro Crafty

PS:  For additional discussion of the Camp, please see
http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=2200.0

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The following article is quite old, but perhaps it remains relevant ;-)

Snake Range,
by Guro Crafty  (Copyright 2001 Dog Brothers Inc.)


  As Juan Matus has pointed out, seeing what is not there as well as what is
powerful--in life as well as in stickfighting. I often see doubt or the “BS
alert” expression in people’s faces when they hear that Snake Range, the
first range of DBMA, is defined as “before contact is made”. To most people,
if no hitting is going on, then nothing of importance is going on. Yet the
idea of Snake Range is that what is done in the absence of hitting in order
to define the moment of impact (and its continuation) is one of the most
important parts of fighting.

  So what are the elements of the Snake in DBMA?

First there is “the skill of moving your stick to protect your hand, hide
your intent, create your opening, and mask your initiation.”

Second, there is the analysis of your opponent’s psychological type.

Third, and closely related, there is the analysis of his structure which we
call “The Theory of Chambers”.

Fourth, there is a specific theory of footwork.

Fifth, there is using this range to AVOID contact, which includes both ST.
FOOM (an acronym for “stay the fornicate off of me”) and the specific
footwork theory for avoiding engagement. And sixth, there is the theory of
the skirmish (multiple versus one, and many versus many where numbers may or
may not be equal)

The first element we will leave for another day. For now we will note that
Top Dog’s distinctive circling of the stick we call “the clock” and that a
fighter seasoned in the Attacking Block Drills will be able to use a Upward
8 in a similar manner.

Lets turn to psychological types and games that one should recognize in
Snake Range. Here, in no particular order, are some examples:

  a) "Mongo" (after the Alex Karras character in Mel Brooks's "Blazing
Saddles") Mongo looks to smash anything and every thing that comes at him or
is in front of him.

  b) The Stalker: he lumbers after you, often with step and slide footwork.

  c) The Evader: evades and looks to counter hit.

  d) The Blocking Counter Hitter: he presses forward and looks to counter
hit after blocking your strike.

  e) The Posturer: he doesn’t really want to fight. Typically Posturers
strut and posture just out of reach in the hopes you will overextend
yourself due to impatience.

  f) The Salesman: uses the stick deceptively hoping to trick you into
exposing yourself.

  g) Three Card Monte: a variation of the salesman done with double stick.
It mixes the chambers of each stick (e.g. holds one high and one low) and
tries to hit you with the one at which you’re not looking.

  h) The Speed Merchant: not much power, but he scores and moves.

  i) The Troglodyte: doesn’t care much if you hit him, he’s going to hit
you.

  j) The Linebacker: comes after you like a linebacker blitzing a
quarterback. He wants to crash and take it to the ground.

There’s more of course and these types can be combined. For example, a Mongo
can be a Troglodyte Stalker.

The Theory of Chambers is the analysis of the physical structure of the man
in front of you. From where does he throw? Some examples:

  a) From above the forehand shoulder is “the Caveman”.

  b) Does he finish this swing with his elbow in centerline? Then he is
“elbow fulcrum”.

  c) A “backhander” prefers to throw from the backhand side.

  d) A “slapper” has bad form and tends to swing horizontally.

  e) “Off-lead” is with the weapon in the rear hand.

  f) Low Chamber is a low forehand position. This sometimes is in an
off-lead.

  g) Siniwali Caveman is with the caveman strike in the rear, and the front
stick is a jabbing/shielding position (a.k.a. “paw and pow”).

  h) Double Caveman is with each stick above its respective shoulder.

  i) False lead is left shoulder and right foot forward, right stick in
right hand or vice versa.

  These are but some examples. For each of these structures you want to know
what are the strengths and weaknesses and have solutions.

  In addition to the snakey stick, there is also “the snaky foot”, which of
course is an oxymoron because snakes don’t have feet?but never mind that.
There is a specific theory of footwork for this distance which we will leave
for another day.

  And in the street you may not want to engage and may want to keep the
jackal(s) away. ST. FOOM is moving your feet and swinging your stick so as
to create a bubble around yourself into which no one wants to step.

  And the Skirmish is all the skills you need for multiple situations. This
is more tactics and strategy than particular technique. Technical competence
is already assumed, thus it is usually covered later in the training. If you
can’t fight one, you may not be ready to think about fighting more than one.

  All of these are elements of Snake Range in Dog Brothers Martial Arts.

  Woof,
  Guro Crafty


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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2011, 04:44:45 PM »
Sounds awesome sir, I'll be there.

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2011, 09:26:57 PM »
Woof!  The dates have been blocked off in my calendar.   :-D

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2011, 12:58:51 PM »
very much looking forward to this!

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2011, 06:03:34 PM »
Forgive my ignorance please: is there a link to pay for this online?  Or do we pay upon arrival?

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2011, 06:39:40 PM »
bigdog,
  I'm sure guro is still hashing out ALL the details(exact location,times,etc.). When he's done finalizing those specifics I'm sure he'll, or pretty kitty will, give us a link for payment.

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2011, 06:54:10 PM »
Thank you!

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2011, 08:59:26 AM »
Family matters (child with the cooties, and parents too) are distracting us at the moment.  Pretty Kitty will get to this soon.


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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2011, 07:24:18 AM »
Staying tuned...and have several students who I know will be coming...

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2011, 11:19:38 PM »
Hey all,

Please do your best to get registered for this camp early!  I'm out of town until after the camp and Maureen will be handling registrations for me.  Her email address is maureen@dogbrothers.com.  If you have any questions, please email her directly.

You can register for the camp for one, two, or three days.
http://dogbrothers.com/store/index.php?cPath=22

Thanks!
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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2011, 02:52:00 AM »
People:

If you are coming, please get your registrations in ASAP so we can get a sense of the numbers coming and choose our location accordingly.

Generally it will be held in the Hermosa Beach area and run each day from 10:00-16:30.  For those inclined there will be a swim in the ocean at the end of the day and there will be group dinner each evening.

TAC!
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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2011, 02:08:29 PM »
Woof! I'm coming for Sat and Sunday. I had to compromise with a Daddy/Daughter Camping trip from Wed to Fri. So, Sat and Sunday it is. Those of you who plan on the "end of day Ocean swim", remember, Guro Crafty would have just returned from Europe. Based off of the photos of Switzerland's Gathering, we may catch Crafty still in the "Euro Groove" and sportin' a SPEEDO!...just a warning is all!  :-D

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2011, 11:24:37 AM »
I do NOT do speedos! :lol:

BTW folks, it looks like we may have a special extra.  A South African security specialist (who has worked in East Africa as well) and author of an anti-carjacking book, is now scheduled to come and do a presentation, including some drills in, out of, and around a car.   This promises to be interesting, , ,

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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2011, 06:23:20 AM »
Woof All: 

Damian Halforty is going to be coming to the camp all the way from New Zealand, (we also have two coming from Great Britain) to where he has emmigrated from South Africa.  While he lived in South Africa he was a noted security specialist (including stints in east Africa) and was the author of a book on Anti-carjacking techniques.  (Do I have these details correct Damian? Please feel free to add or delete).

    Anyway, Damian will be doing a session on anti-carjacking at the Camp. (He mentioned something about using the Dogcatcher while exiting the vehicle) I am very excited about this! 

A question is presented by the fact that I have billed the camp as "all Real Contact Stickfighting".   I do not want people feeling misled about the contents of the camp, so I am asking for some feedback.  Would we rather have a full half day on this (it looks like my truck is going to be the laboratory) or would we rather have this as an extra session Saturday evening?

TAC!
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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2011, 06:47:13 AM »
Woof Crafty,
Though I am open to learning new scenarios (carjacking), I am attending Camp to understand YOUR techniques, terminology, and advice to get through the next Gathering, and eventually teach your system. With much respect to Damien, I wouldn't want you to leave out something that may be of value to me to fit in his segment. On top of that....Carjacking? ...I would let them have it in a heartbeat, I have insurance.  So....with that being said I am open to an EXTRA session, but not a replacement in the curriculum.



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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2011, 08:40:28 PM »
Damian will be doing one hour plus on both Friday and Saturday evenings after the day's training is over.  Damian is an interesting guy.  I think everyone will be pleased.

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2011, 08:20:28 AM »
Sounds great Crafty!
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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2011, 11:17:32 AM »
Hi All

Registered for the camp.  Only been to one other camp (2002) and, while I've watched/learned from a number of the videos, my stick work is still pretty basic.  (I normally study an American style of karate.)

I'm flying in so I'd appreciate some advice regarding what to bring so as to not come with too little or too much.  Looking at the Conceptual Overview, it appears I'll probably need the following:
1. Sticks:  28" &/or 31" ok?  Will I need longer for the KK material?
2. Training knife:  alum?, rubber?, both?, more than one?
3. Staff:  Available for purchase at the camp? 
4. Rubber gun needed for any DLO material covered?

Anything else? 

Regards
Jim

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2011, 12:05:02 PM »
Woof Jim:

Good questions:

1) Length is up to you.  Most people use about 30" (I like 31 myself) and yes KK movement is best learned with KK length sticks.  Once your body understands it, you can bring it to standard length sticks.  If it is awkward for you to bring KK length sticks, I probably have some fuglies you can borrow.

2) Training knives:  I recommend 1-2 aluminum and 1-2 of the NOK training knives (ahem , , ,available on our catalog  :lol:

3) Yes, we will have staffs and everything else available for sale at the camp.

4) Training Gun would be nice to have for the anti-carjacking material, but remember, the focus is RCSFg.

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2011, 12:30:30 PM »
Thank you.   Made the packing/planning much easier.

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2011, 09:43:21 PM »
Any decision on the location?

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« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2011, 12:28:49 PM »
We will rendezvous at the old park in Hermosa Beach at 4th & Ardmore at 09:30 and depart at 09:45 to the actual location (about a ten minute drive)

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2011, 04:46:57 PM »
Crafty,
I'm coming on Saturday, are you guys doing doing the rendevous thingy on Saturday too. Can you email your thoughts on a location so I don't wonder around looking for people swinging sticks?

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« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2011, 05:25:57 PM »
Sure thing C-Mighty.  I will post here the evening after the first day.

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2011, 12:43:38 PM »
Maureen says:

Here are links to 3 local hotels Marc mentioned: Each of them located
close in proximity to the seminar meeting point as well beaches, shops,
restaurants and any after seminar night life you may wish to find :)

http://www.bestwestern-sunrise.com
http://www.qualityinn.com/hotel-hermosa_beach-california-CA041
http://www.hiexpress.com/hotels/us/en/hermosa-beach/laxhr/hoteldetail

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2011, 11:08:10 AM »
Guro Crafty,

Do you have an outline for the material that will be covered each day in case a student and I are limited to either Saturday or Sunday ?

Thank you

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2011, 12:23:55 PM »
I can do that :-)

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2011, 02:18:58 PM »
Guro Crafty,

Do you have an outline for the material that will be covered each day in case a student and I are limited to either Saturday or Sunday ?

Thank you

I LOVE the idea of a syllabus! 

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2011, 11:26:45 PM »
Everything's taken care of on my end Guro - We'll be coming in Saturday.

Should we check in here Friday evening to find out where we should be headed ?

Thanks a bunch and we're looking forward to it

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2011, 10:13:39 AM »
Flew in and have a friend dropping me off at the rendezvous.  If anybody could give me a ride from our rendezvous to our final location it'd be appreciated.

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2011, 10:43:27 AM »
Jim:

I am sure that will not be a problem.

All:

At the moment I am having some serious problems with my email program, so please use this thread as a backstop.

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2011, 08:45:11 PM »
...standing by for the rendezvous location - Should I email or will this be posted here?

Thank you :-D

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2011, 09:17:22 PM »
...standing by for the rendezvous location - Should I email or will this be posted here?

Thank you :-D
Rendezvous will be the "Gathering" park, 4th & Ardmore.  Next to the auto shop at:

<325 Ardmore Ave
Hermosa Beach, CA 90254>

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2011, 09:40:21 PM »
Thank you Poidog

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2011, 09:41:52 PM »
Lastly, is the time for meeting tomorrow the same as today @ 9:30am ?

Thanks again,

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2011, 10:08:38 PM »
Yes.  09:45 will be fine.

Great presentation today by Damian on anti-carjacking.  Tomorrow we go to FOF (pepper spray, shocknives, airsoft and other implements of fun & games) for the anti-carjacking segment.  C-Mighty's car may never be the same :-)

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2011, 10:14:09 PM »
Got it - Thank you

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2011, 03:20:14 AM »
Yes.  09:45 will be fine.

Great presentation today by Damian on anti-carjacking.  Tomorrow we go to FOF (pepper spray, shocknives, airsoft and other implements of fun & games) for the anti-carjacking segment.  C-Mighty's car may never be the same :-)


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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2011, 08:52:29 PM »
We had a great time today

Much thanks to you Guro Crafty as well as to Toki and Poi for your welcoming & patience.

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Re: DBMA Training Camp August 12-14
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2011, 10:45:01 PM »
More fun and games today.  Amongst the material taught:  The Kalimba Game, the Brondo Buzzsaw, and the integration of the two into a larger whole, intro to the Salty Game, and then it was time for Damian to continue with his anti-carjacking material.  Pepper spray and a Shocknife livened up the scenarios.  Toki's car escaped with no apparent damage. (In his scenario Toki made and awesome move from front seat to back and out the far passenger door.)