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Re: another look
« Reply #100 on: August 11, 2016, 10:13:36 AM »
In fairness to Bernie his net worth including real estate is around 1.7 million if this site is to be believed.  While obviously well off this is a pittance compared to many of the "insiders" in DC:

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/04/17/what-is-bernie-sanders-net-worth.aspx

I will still never understand how someone accumulates 1.7 million doing nothing other than a lifetime of public service work, a carpentry job, and maybe some liberal arts 30 years ago.

La mordida!

Taking into consideration what CCP said, and having managed factories where many of my workers clocked about 65K with overtime, I haven't seen a single one of them become a millionaire. Not even one.

I'm going with what GM said on this.

That brand new, beach front, vacation home on the lake for 600K that he just bought probably has something to do with what I'm thinking. Yep... a man living modestly.

There's a Mexican general under fire right now for having two homes in Texas valued at about 1.5 million. It's raising some serious eyebrows. In the States, they don't even hide it.
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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #101 on: August 11, 2016, 10:23:54 AM »
Just because they structure the payoffs as to not be payoffs doesn't make it any less crooked.

Cattle futures!

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« Reply #102 on: August 11, 2016, 10:48:20 AM »
Just because they structure the payoffs as to not be payoffs doesn't make it any less crooked.

Cattle futures!

I agree 100%. I was just looking into Mrs. Sanders' net worth and what she has done besides being let go from Burlington College after running it into the ground (maybe it wasn't her, but they did close less than 5 years after she left.


This article notes that Sanders' wife made about $160,000 a year running the college and that "virtually all of the couple’s assets are in Jane’s name, and they own a condo in D.C. and a rental property in Vermont." It is from February. Interestingly, the house in Maine that they would use to purchase the new home in Vermont is not listed. Many articles place Sanders' net worth between roughly 400K and 700K. They also fail to include his wife's earnings. Not bad for a pair of socialists.

Sanders' wife also justified the purchase of the house on the lake by stating that she had inherited a house in Maine that wasn't being used and used the proceeds from that to purchase the lake house in Vermont.

She purposely hides how much she is worth, Bernie purposely has most of the things in her name, and they're worth a lot more than they admit to.
http://fortune.com/2016/02/28/bernie-sanders-socialist-finances/

"Steady employment begins after the age of 39: In 1981, when Sanders won an election for the Mayor of Burlington, Vermont, the 39-year-old went on the public payroll — earning about $33,700 per year, according to Politico."

How one coverts that to 1.7 million dollars net worth at 74 years of age, only having worked full time for public service for 36 years, would be saving $48,571 per year since working regularly from the age of 39. His wife was making a lot of money, and I found this at Time's website "$1 Million-Plus Nest Egg" http://time.com/money/4235986/bernie-sanders-millionaire-finances/

Although Sanders and his wife’s joint tax return showed income of only a little more than $200,000 for 2014 — including his $174,000 salary," which mean that together, they were clocking her 160K (while she was at Burlington College) and his 174K (334K a year) the idea that they are socialists, and make that much off of "serving the public" is laughable.
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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #103 on: August 12, 2016, 03:36:26 AM »
Good research DDF.

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« Reply #104 on: August 12, 2016, 08:17:16 AM »
Good research DDF.


Thank you Guru. It just struck me as curious what his wife was worth.

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #105 on: August 12, 2016, 02:02:40 PM »
Well, they are authentic socialists, as every worker's paradise has it's elites who live very well, despite the gulags, mass graves and starvation.

Hugo Chavez' daughter somehow became a multimillionaire. Must be from the success of Venezuela's economic model.

It's scientific!

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« Reply #106 on: August 13, 2016, 12:13:57 AM »
Well, they are authentic socialists, as every worker's paradise has it's elites who live very well, despite the gulags, mass graves and starvation.

Hugo Chavez' daughter somehow became a multimillionaire. Must be from the success of Venezuela's economic model.

It's scientific!

I have some free time on my hands. You bring up an interesting point about old Hugo and socialists in general. I think I'm going to look into what the world's socialist leaders are worth tomorrow, just for the hell of it. I had no idea that Chavez' daughter was so successful. Venezuela's "successful" economic model. Best one I've heard all day.  :-D :-D :-D


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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #108 on: August 14, 2016, 10:36:01 AM »
Please post in Venezuela thread.  Thank you.

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Sen. Bernie Sanders and the Budget committee
« Reply #109 on: October 14, 2016, 07:06:44 PM »
Did I hear right-- if the Dems take the Senate then Bernie chairs the budget committee?

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Sen. Bernie Sanders, CNN, hasn't learned a thing
« Reply #110 on: January 10, 2017, 05:35:42 PM »
From almost becoming our worst President ever, Bernis Sandsers has fallen to run-of-the-mill leftist, like Shumer, Warren, et al.

I followed a link to his insights today from real clear politics:  23 Questions for America  - Sen. Bernie Sanders, CNN

No, he hasn't learned a thing.  He lost the nomination to Hillary because of cheating, corruption and collusion in his own party.  No one is running for party chair to clean that up.  All they have is denial, even from Sanders.

One of many bold, FALSE statements:  [The US today has] the highest rate of childhood poverty of almost any major country on earth.

Oh really?  What a crock.  He cites this UNICEF study:  https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf  They compare countries by comparing the percentage of
children living in relative poverty, defined as living in a household whose income, when adjusted for family size and composition, is less than 50% of the median income for the country in which they live.  He cites inequality, based on false data, not counting the income of the poor, and he calls it poverty.  Good grief.  Maybe he makes up for it with charisma?

Our poor are often richer than their rich, but we have the highest rate of children living in relative poverty? Without counting their income and relative to the median of the wealthiest country in history.  If the questions or ideas stand on their own, why fill it with deception?

So much for addressing real problems.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/09/opinions/serious-questions-bernie-sanders-opinion/index.html

Bernie Sanders: We need serious talk on serious issues
By Bernie Sanders
Updated 4:19 PM ET, Mon January 9, 2017

(CNN)In my view, the media spends too much time treating politics like a baseball game, a personality contest or a soap opera. We need to focus less on polls, fundraisers, gaffes and who's running for president in four years, and more on the very serious problems facing the American people -- problems which get relatively little discussion. I hope that's what our town meeting on CNN tonight will accomplish.  [So far, so good.]

There are a lot of important questions to talk about, including:
How do we stop the movement toward oligarchy in our country in which the economic and political life of the United States is increasingly controlled by a handful of billionaires?  [Stop it by getting those who aren't to particpate in the productive economy.  Instead we pay and contract with them to stay poor. cf. SSI]

Are we content with the grotesque level of income and wealth inequality that we are experiencing? [If it's important, stop measuring and reporting it falsely]  Should the top one-tenth of 1 percent own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent? Should one family in this country, the Waltons of the Walmart retail chain, own as much as the bottom 40 percent of our people? [The bottom 40% mostly don't have savings.  Don't double down on the failed policies that caused that. Increase the wealth of the bottom 40% if that is the goal and stop making meaningless comparisons. Should 52 percent of all new income be going into the pockets of the top 1 percent?  [The results of the Sanders, Obama plan.  Also see Venezuela's decline and collapse since leaving a free market economy.]

While the very rich become much richer, are we satisfied with having the highest rate of childhood poverty of almost any major country on earth? [Already proven patently false, see above.] Can a worker really survive on the current federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour? [By sharing household expenses with family and friends.  Instead household sizes keep getting smaller for the poorest among us.] How can a working-class family afford $15,000 a year for childcare? [What did that used to cost?] How can a senior citizen or a disabled veteran get by on $13,000 a year from Social Security?

What can be done about a political system in which the very rich are able to spend unlimited sums of money to elect candidates who represent their interests? [The winner spent the least.  Stubborn facts.] Is that really what democracy is about? Why, in the year 2017, do we still have state governments trying to suppress the vote and make it harder for poor people, young people and people of color to participate in the political process? [Checking ID is not suppression and saying it's harder for 'poor people, young people and people of color' is degrading.]

Why is the richest country in the history of the world the only major country not to provide health care to all as a right [Lie, lie, lie, no one is denied healthcare] despite spending much more per capita? Why are we one of the very few countries on earth not to provide paid family and medical leave? [What does paying more people to not work have to do with serious questions?] With the five major drug companies making over $50 billion in profits last year [.0025 portion of the economy, how much should they make on risk capital to try to develop cures for our ailments?] why do we end up paying, by far, the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs?  [Enforce the anti-dumping laws already on the books or negotiate best price contracts, like successful companies do, see Walmart above.]

How do we succeed in a competitive global economy if we do not have the best educated workforce in the world? And how can we have that quality workforce if so many of our young people are unable to afford higher education or leave school deeply in debt? Not so many years ago, we had the highest percentage of college graduates in the world. Now we don't even rank in the top ten. What can we do to make sure that every American, regardless of income, gets all of the education he or she needs? [Public school education in Democrat-run big cities is a disgrace.  School choice is the Republican and inner city black preference.]

Meanwhile, on climate change, the debate is over. [More like you quit listening to it.] The scientific community is virtually unanimous in telling us that climate change is real, is caused by human activity and is already doing devastating harm to our country and the entire world. [Patently false as written.] How do we transform our energy system away from fossil fuel and into energy efficiency and sustainable energy while protecting those workers who might lose their jobs as a result of the transition? [Stop opposing carbon-free nuclear energy.] This is no small issue. The future of the planet is at stake.

We are now spending $80 billion a year to imprison 2.2 million Americans, who are disproportionately African-American, Latino and Native American. [The victims are disproportionately minority too.  The culture of crime is breeding in Democrat-run cities.  Check it out.] We have more people in jail than any other country on earth, including China, which is home to four times as many people. How do we reform a broken criminal justice system? How do we create jobs and educational opportunity for young people, not more jails and incarceration? [Stop jails or stop crime?]

We must create a path for the 11 million undocumented [unlawful] people in our country to become lawful permanent residents and eventually citizens. [Why?] How can we move our nation toward common sense, humane and comprehensive immigration reform and by doing that help reverse the decline of our middle class and better prepare the United States to compete in the global economy?  [Enforce the border and the law.]

Our nation's infrastructure is collapsing and the American people know it. At a time when our roads, bridges, water systems, rail and airports, levees, dams, schools and housing stock are decaying, the most effective way to rapidly create meaningful jobs is to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. How can we work together to make that happen? [Read the Republican plan.]

These are the issues that need to be talked about all over the country. I thank CNN for allowing us to have a serious discussion about serious issues.  [Bernie, your disingenuity is killing us.  Luckily the voters went a different direction.]
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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #111 on: February 28, 2017, 03:20:11 PM »
suddenly he is worried about anti - semitism?

Where the hell was he for the past 8 yrs?

What a joke.


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Sen. Bernie Sanders making some serious money
« Reply #113 on: June 06, 2017, 07:21:23 AM »

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders on Face the Nation June 18 2017
« Reply #114 on: June 19, 2017, 05:09:41 PM »
Someone should ANSWER this drivel, point by point...

1) He states flawed projections as facts.  Then he repeats them as facts.

2) He is a science denier.  The science is economics.  People respond to incentives and disincentives. They deny it.  

3)  He is a denier of economic history.  What he states as fact just isn't so.  Not accurate anywhere at anytime across the globe or throughout history.

4)  His policies aren't new; they lead to disaster every time they are tried.  The further you go Sanders / Warrenomics, then worse the disaster.  See VenezChavezuela.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-the-nation-june-18-2017-transcript-rubio-sanders-sekulow-odonnell/

DICKERSON: Joining us now is Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. He is in Burlington.

Senator Sanders, I want to start with this week's shooting.  In talking to Senator Rubio, he said obviously this was -- the man who did the shooting is responsible for his own actions. But in the wake of that, in this conversation about what leads to the heated political atmosphere, Senator Sanders -- Senator Rubio pointed out, he said that when people try to stop free speech, stop people from talking, it creates pressure in the system that might cause people to act out.  What do you think of that theory?
[Not even a mention that the shooter was a follower of Bernie.]

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I), VERMONT: I think he is right.

Look, freedom of speech, the right to dissent, the right to protest, that is what America is about. And, politically, every leader in this country, every American has got to stand up against any form of violence. That is unacceptable.

And I certainly hope and pray that Representative Scalise has a full recovery from the tragedy that took place this week.  [Tragedy? Like a natural catastrophe? Or was it a criminal act?]

DICKERSON: There's been a lot of protests on campuses when people come to speak. They have been -- people have protested and said they shouldn't be allowed to speak.
 Where do you come down on that in the context of this pressure on free speech?

SANDERS: I think people have a right to speak. And you have a right, if you are on a college campus not to attend. You have a right to ask hard questions about the speaker if you disagree with him or her.  But what -- why should we be afraid of somebody coming on a campus or anyplace else and speaking? You have a right to protest. But I don't quite understand why anybody thinks it is a good idea to deny somebody else the right to express his or her point of view.
[First two points true and valid, makes you think he is a reasonable guy- even though his angry articulation of false analysis inspired the hate thoughts if not the violence of the assassin who shot up a field full of Sanders' political opponents.]

I think, John, what is very clear is, we are in a contentious and difficult political moment in our country's history. I have very grave concerns about the Trump agenda right now. We will -- we are looking -- we are not looking.

There is a health care proposal in the Senate [NO THERE ISN'T] which nobody has seen yet. But the proposal that passed the House, as you know, would throw 23 million Americans off of health insurance. I mean that, to me, is just incredible.
[Not even an opinion but repetition of a false claim, without giving credit to its source or including the time frame.  He adds "AS YOU KNOW" to a statement that is patently false.  Obamacare is losing enrollees at a faster rate than that without repeal/replace.]

It would raise premiums very significantly for older workers.  [The removal of the requirement for young people to pay for the care of old people is "raising premiums for older workers'.  With that logic you can reform NOTHING.] It would defend (de-fund) Planned Parenthood and deny two-and-a-half million women the right to get the health care that they want, cut Medicaid by over $800 billion.
[Planned Parenthood is a human slaughterhouse with an abortion to adoption ratio of 149 to 1.  Medicaid has never been cut since its inception.  The bill gives people freer choices, not denial of rights.  The man has no shame.]

You know, we -- I and I would say the vast majority of the American people have strong disagreements with that approach. But you don't have to be violent about it. Let's disagree openly and honestly [deceptively and vehemently], but violence is [the result] not acceptable.  [The violence was incited by his own hate speech if you apply logic of the left  to the left.  Class WARFARE is still his operative theme while his political opponent is still in surgery.]

DICKERSON: I want to get to the details of the health care plan in a moment, or the details you don't know at the moment.  But let me just -- staying on this question here, is anything going to change in the wake of this in Washington, at least in the way lawmakers deal with each other? And is there something that should change?

SANDERS: I think, you know, what -- and, again, where this is such a strange moment is, we are looking at a lot of dishonest news that comes across, where people are lying outrageously about other people.  [Like Sanders just did.]

And I hope that folks on all sides could say, look, I disagree with him or her, but that is an outrageous lie. But let us, on the other hand, be frank, is, there are real differences of opinions that exist in Congress.

It is not like -- you know, you mentioned Marco Rubio. I like Marco Rubio. But we disagree on issues. And people should understand, it is not that there is all kinds of hatred. [He spews hatred right in this interview.  What is class warfare without hatred?] There's a -- in the Congress, there is a fundamental disagreement.

President Trump made a -- brought forth a budget which will go nowhere, but this is a budget that over a 10-year period would give $3 trillion in tax breaks [static analysis] to the top 1 percent, the very wealthiest families in America [hate and blame that group!], while making massive cuts in education [false], into health care [false], in nutrition programs[false], really devastate working class of this country[false].  [His policies are what devastate the working "class".  See any place that implemented them.]

I disagree with that. But, obviously, that debate has got to be played out based on the facts, and let's debate it.
[He disagrees with his own false assessment - or did that come out wrong?]

DICKERSON: Let me move here now to health care.

You mentioned some of the policy differences, but there is a procedural debate going on about how this is being handled in the Senate. Some Democrats are suggesting, because the -- because you don't know what is in the bill and the bill is being worked on in secret, to just stop all Senate business, to just shut the place down as a way to kind of force play.

Are you on board with that?  [See if he answers the question...]

SANDERS: John, here is the situation.

We know the legislation that passed the House. It was the worst piece of legislation, frankly, against working-class people that I can remember in my political life in the Congress. Throwing 23 million people off of health insurance is beyond belief.
[REPEAT A FALSEHOOD]

Now, in the Senate, what you have is you have, I believe it is 10 Republicans working behind closed doors [NO DEMOCRATS AGREED TO WORK ON THIS BILL!] to address one-sixth of the American economy.  That is what health care is.  [Trying to reverse a failed government takeover of 1/6th of the economy as the voters asked them to do.]

Republicans, the average Republican doesn't even know what is in that legislation. My understanding is that it will be brought forth just immediately before we have to vote on it.
[His colleague just assured him it wouldn't be.  Is Sen. Rubio a liar?]
This is completely unacceptable [The way Obamacare was passed, "you have to pass it to see what's in it".] I mean, nobody can defend a process which will impact tens of millions of Americans, and nobody even knows what is in the legislation. [False. There is no Senate proposal at this time.]  And, John, the important point here is the reason they don't want to bring it public is because it is a disastrous bill, I suspect similar to what passed in the House.  [Crafting legislation behind closed doors is far from new, see Hillarycare, Obamacare.  Just raw, political mudslinging. Inciting violence against his colleagues?]

Who is going to defend cutting Medicaid by $800 billion at the same time as you give massive tax breaks to the wealthiest 2 percent? [Two false points then make a false comparison.] So, they want to keep it secret. [No, they want to bring it out in the open and pass it.]  They don't want the media involved. ["Think of them as Democratic operatives with bylines."] They don't want members of Congress involved. And at the last minute, they present it, they push it through, and that is one-sixth of the American economy and millions of people thrown off the health insurance. [False, false, false and false.]

That is unacceptable. I believe Democrats should do everything they can to oppose that legislation in any way that we can.  [Ends justify means, while his colleague is in critical condition??!!]


To the left of Bernie (or more open and honest than him) are people who want to tax the upper income at 99%.  Seriously!  Why do we not take all of their income?  Why is $100/hr minimum wage not better than $15?  Why don't they admit what they know would go wrong with their own proposals?  Which type of tax code brings in the most revenue to the Treasury, one that stomps out economic activity or one that fosters growth?  But the agenda of socialist is not to grow the economy or to alleviate poverty.  Their goal is transformation.  Or just perpetual class warfare.  If we enacted all of their taxes and programs (as we have), they would then want - more taxes and more programs.
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Feel the Bernie-- wife tried evicting disabled group
« Reply #115 on: July 23, 2017, 06:38:50 PM »
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http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2017/06/sen-sanders-wife-tried-evicting-disabled-group-home-residents-closing-shady-college-deal-fbi-probe/

Sen. Sanders’ Wife Tried Evicting Disabled Group Home Residents after Closing Shady College Deal Under FBI Probe

JUNE 29, 2017

Amid a deepening federal investigation of Jane Sanders, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders’ wife, Judicial Watch has obtained records that paint a rather disturbing personal portrait of a heartless spouse—and longtime political advisor—of the Democratic Socialist candidate for president of the United States. During the Obama administration, the FBI began investigating Jane for falsifying documents to obtain a $10 million loan to expand a now-defunct liberal arts college in a town where her husband once served as mayor while she was the school’s president.

The school, Burlington College, was in a small city with the same name in northwestern Vermont. It’s a quaint town of about 42,000 that sits on the eastern shoreline of Lake Champlain and prides itself on having “diverse, forward-thinking citizens” that are “steeped in arts and culture.” Jane was president of the troubled college from 2004 to 2011 and in 2010, she had an ambitious plan to expand the campus by 33 acres, despite low enrollment and financial difficulties. The then-president of Burlington College drastically overstated donation amounts in loan applications, according to the Vermont news website that broke the story, to obtain a $10 million loan. Jane indicated there was $2.6 million in pledged donations but the school only got $676,000 in four years.

The loan went through, some allege after her husband’s senatorial office pressured the bank to approve it, and Jane masterminded a deal to purchase an undeveloped, 32-acre parcel of land and a 77,000-square-foot facility from the Roman Catholic Diocese of Burlington. The purchase included a facility that served as a group home for disabled people and, under the terms of the deal, Jane was supposed to negotiate the transfer of the disabled residents before the school took over the property. Instead Jane tried to kick the disabled people out of their group home, records obtained by Judicial Watch show. The records, part of an ongoing Judicial Watch investigation into the Jane Sanders fraud case, include electronic mail exchanges between Jane when she was president of Burlington College and two former mayors of the city of Burlington.

In a lengthy letter to the attorney (Todd Centybear) representing the group home for the disabled Jane indicates that she’s having trouble evicting the 16 residents from their building on the newly purchased property after the college had acquired the land. She writes: “It is simply not fair to expect the College to continue to carry the burden of the expenses associated with housing both your population and ours until February 2012.” The home for the disabled was being leased from the diocese and Jane was supposed to help relocate the residents, not evict them. The exchange shows, not only Jane’s heartlessness, but also her incompetence as the college president for not ensuring the negotiated transfer of those disabled people before the school took over the property.

In a separate email to then Burlington Mayor Bob Kiss, Jane forwards a laughable press release issued by the college announcing her resignation. “I wanted you to hear it from me,” she writes to the mayor. “It’s a good decision.” The press release announced that “In honor of her significant accomplishments, the College has given Sanders the title of President Emerita…” It adds that “The Board credits Sanders with negotiating the acquisition of its beautiful new 32-acre lakefront campus, a transformative achievement for the College.” In reality, the acquisition of that property bankrupted the College, and Sanders is now being investigated for bank fraud by the FBI for misrepresentations she made on loan documents to purchase the land for the campus.

Senator Sanders, who is up for reelection this year, hit the media circuit this week to defend his wife, assuring that she’s the most honest person he knows and that the investigation is politically motivated. “When you go after people’s wives that is really pathetic,” he said in a recent interview, adding that “it’s fairly pathetic that when people are involved in public life, it’s not only that they get attacked, but it’s their wives and their families that get attacked. That’s what this is about.” The couple lawyered up this week, hiring two prominent attorneys, one in Burlington and the other in Washington D.C. Also, this month, Jane launched a nonprofit organization, the Sanders Institute, to “revitalize democracy” with progressive policies aimed at racial and social justice as well as environmental and economic issues.


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Sen. Bernie Sanders 2011, The American Dream is in Venezuela
« Reply #117 on: August 23, 2017, 09:11:00 AM »
http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=2177.msg105790#msg105790
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/close-the-gaps-disparities-that-threaten-america

This passes for wisdom on The Left.

Kill off incentives, private sector income and wealth and the Venezuelan economy is what you get.

Who is questioning Bernie on this now?

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders 2011, The American Dream is in Venezuela
« Reply #118 on: August 23, 2017, 09:16:00 AM »
http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=2177.msg105790#msg105790
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/close-the-gaps-disparities-that-threaten-america

This passes for wisdom on The Left.

Kill off incentives, private sector income and wealth and the Venezuelan economy is what you get.

Who is questioning Bernie on this now?

Just us. The MSM/DNC sure won't.

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #119 on: July 13, 2018, 07:52:51 PM »


[Write your own caption here.]

NEW YORK, NY—In a late-night show interview Wednesday, Senator Bernie Sanders politely asked the nation to please stop mailing him books on basic economics, revealing that he’s been “absolutely flooded” with works on the most rudimentary concepts of supply and demand.

Sanders made the request after receiving yet another daily shipment of books from well-meaning Americans who simply assumed that he has never read a book on the subject in his life.

“I’ve got 1,200 copies of Human Action, 1,500 copies of Basic Economics, and 4,700 copies of Economics in One Lesson,” the angered senator said. “I’m drowning here.”
https://babylonbee.com/news/bernie-sanders-asks-nation-to-please-stop-mailing-him-books-on-economics/

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders $300k ib private jets
« Reply #123 on: December 07, 2018, 10:13:19 PM »
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/climate-hawk-bernie-sanders-spent-almost-300k-on-private-jets

It's not a bug, it's a feature of socialism that the power structure is exempt from the rules. All animals are equal...

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #124 on: December 08, 2018, 05:54:57 AM »
Interesting he actually lived on a Kibbutz and now essentially could care less about his Jewish heritage.
Like some of the Soviet Bolshevik Jews like Trotsky.

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders, 20 things you didn't know about Bernie
« Reply #125 on: December 31, 2018, 06:26:06 PM »
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/bernie-sanders-twenty-things-you-didnt-know/

Some important points made if he becomes a serious candidate again.

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Sanders to Soviet Russia for honeymoon
« Reply #126 on: January 29, 2019, 05:31:58 AM »
I have never heard anyone taking their honeymoon to Russia, have you?

Apparently *while he was mayor of Burlington Vt* a sister city deal was struck with Yaroslav Russia .  
So why not take your honeymoon there ?  What a wonderful coicidence.

I would not be surprised if he even wrote this trip off as government business since of course he went to share cultural love with Russians and foster better relations between the US and USSR.
I wonder if anyone can find out if it was paid for by the city of Burlington:

https://www.burlingtonvt.gov/Mayor/Yaroslavl-Russia
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« Reply #128 on: March 13, 2019, 09:50:34 PM »
That deserves more follow up!


In the meantime , , ,

Bernie walks into a bar and says "Free drinks for everyone!  Who is paying?"

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Bernie Sanders, "universal" health care requires a kickback to unions
« Reply #129 on: August 27, 2019, 07:30:16 AM »
Labor representatives have expressed concerns to candidates publicly and to campaign staffs privately that a single-payer system could negatively affect their benefits, which in many cases offer better coverage than private plans. The change announced Wednesday would effectively give organized labor more negotiating power than other consumers would have under his plan by forcing employers to pay out any money they save to union members in other benefits.

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-bernie-sanders-changes-medicare-for-all-plan-in-face-of-opposition-by-organized-labor/2019/08/21/d8144e06-c423-11e9-9986-1fb3e4397be4_story.html

A Sanders aide — who spoke on the condition of anonymity to explain the change — said the provision “does not open a door for private insurance,”
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Some unions have invested in and developed their own self funded health plans to cover their members and families- that would be canceled and banned under Bernie-care.  This one, Local 49 Minneapolis goes around the government and big insurance companies to provide great health care for 36,000 members and family members.  Gone under Bernie care.  Better off under Trump.
https://www.health49.org/


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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #131 on: August 29, 2019, 06:11:41 AM »
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/sanders-china-has-made-more-progress-on-extreme-poverty-than-any-country-in-history/?fbclid=IwAR0Rk7LizATIt3bcmnB3D2XOSbZojr4BLGfSrf2MI-KNH_IUlBZwksU1jPg

"China is a country that is moving unfortunately in a more authoritarian way in a number of directions,” the Vermont senator said in his interview with The Hill. “But what we have to say about China in fairness to China and its leadership is, if I’m not mistaken, they have made more progress in addressing extreme poverty than any country in the history of civilization, so they’ve done a lot of things for their people.”


Strange that he calls moving in a "more authoritarian way""unfortunate" when he advocates that here and doubly strange that he acknowledges great progress coming out of the economic policies that he seeks to end here.

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barely a blip on CNN site
« Reply #132 on: October 02, 2019, 05:45:52 PM »
difference between generals and democrats

is the latter just will not fade away

thank god  :|
the burn is ok:

from the front webpage of CNn which is plastered with everything negative about Trump and this tiny little foot note about burns coronary artery disease and emergency cardiac cath:

I guess they figure he ain't goin to win anything anyway........

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Bernie Sanders - Emergency heart surgery under government only healthcare
« Reply #133 on: October 03, 2019, 05:01:16 PM »
Yes.  Thank God Bernie alive and presumed well.  I wish all the best in his health and healthcare, and want to defeat his ideas fair and square with him as a perfectly healthy spokesman.

Announcing he is okay, Bernie proclaimed the misnomer, "Medicare for all!"

Others say, no way he would have gotten that kind of medical attention so quickly without waiting if we had the so-called single payer, government only healthcare system, and he was just one of 330 million people.

Our state just put a $100 million into a vehicle licensing system that doesn't work so they are hiring a private company to start over.  Same state dropped their heaviest traffic, interstate bridge into the Mississippi River not that long ago.  I drove over it twice that day before it collapsed during afternoon rush hour.  But government-run, government-only healthcare, will work great, it's unlimited, no waiting and free!  They will be ready and waiting and able to perform advanced heart surgery whenever you need them. -  I don't believe it.

First heart stents developed at Univ of Minn:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronary_stent

Let the debates begin.

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders against gun confiscation
« Reply #135 on: November 14, 2019, 03:13:52 PM »
The world retains its ability to surprise

https://www.wsj.com/articles/socialist-against-confiscation-11573689765?mod=MorningEditorialReport&mod=djemMER_h

For a moment there he used logic, and cared about rights.  Then they point out he usually doesn't do that.

Bernie has some history with gun politics.  IIRC, he opposed gun rights but couldn't get elected in statewide Vermont until he changed his views.  Otherwise he would have had to go out and get real work.  I wonder what his motivation is now?  Working on his general election polling numbers to compete better with Biden while Warren is slipping?  I assume he will follow this no-confiscation stand with a wide range of new bans.  He still needs liberal votes.


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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders against gun confiscation
« Reply #136 on: November 14, 2019, 08:18:46 PM »
Part of it is trying to take away a hot button issue that might lose him votes from gun owning dems, part of it is that most left politicians smarter than Robert Francis O'Fake know that actually trying to disarm the public results in them losing CWII.

Note that Fredo Cuomo Sr. dares not to try disarming deep blue NY State, despite having the NY State Police. NY National Guard and Fusion Centers at his beck and call.

https://hudsonvalleyone.com/2016/07/07/massive-noncompliance-with-safe-act/


The world retains its ability to surprise

https://www.wsj.com/articles/socialist-against-confiscation-11573689765?mod=MorningEditorialReport&mod=djemMER_h

For a moment there he used logic, and cared about rights.  Then they point out he usually doesn't do that.

Bernie has some history with gun politics.  IIRC, he opposed gun rights but couldn't get elected in statewide Vermont until he changed his views.  Otherwise he would have had to go out and get real work.  I wonder what his motivation is now?  Working on his general election polling numbers to compete better with Biden while Warren is slipping?  I assume he will follow this no-confiscation stand with a wide range of new bans.  He still needs liberal votes.


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Sen. Bernie Sanders makes astrong case to curtail "guest workers", (2007)
« Reply #138 on: December 11, 2019, 01:41:05 PM »

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders makes astrong case to curtail "guest workers", (2007)
« Reply #139 on: December 11, 2019, 01:44:39 PM »
When B.S gets something right on economics, we should all take note:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/video-bernie-sanders-opposed-amnesty-for-illegals-guest-worker-programs-in-2007/

Bernie-racist and xenophobic white nationalist! Who knew?

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Sen. Bernie Sanders: internet service is a human right
« Reply #140 on: December 12, 2019, 08:11:34 AM »
Fixed pie Socialist thinking:  Everything that will ever be invented already has been, now we just figure out how to split everything up evenly.

The more important something is, the more it needs to be provided by or controlled byt the government, because governments have such a great record of providing service and driving innovation.   ??
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https://www.wired.com/story/bernie-sanders-internet-service-human-right/
Bernie Sanders Says Internet Service Should be a Human Right
The Vermont senator and presidential candidate proposed a $150 billion plan to expand broadband, including regulating rates for internet service.

Bernie Sanders speaks at a podium under two bright lights
Senator Bernie Sanders proposed breaking up media-telecom conglomerates.PHOTOGRAPH: DANIEL ACKER/BLOOMBERG/GETTY IMAGES
In August, presidential candidate and senator Elizabeth Warren (D-Massachusetts) proposed spending $85 billion to expand high-speed internet access in rural America and other underserved communities. Senator and rival presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders (D-Vermont) thinks that's not enough. Friday, he offered his own $150 billion broadband plan that goes far beyond connecting rural communities to the internet.

Sanders wants to break up large media and telecommunications giants, force companies to make internet services more accessible to people with disabilities, and regulate broadband prices to ensure affordability. He says he will treat internet service as a human right.

"Just as President Roosevelt fundamentally made America more equal by bringing electricity to every farm and rural community over 80 years ago, as president, I will do the same with high-speed internet,” Sanders said in a statement.

Other Democratic front-runners have broadband plans, but Sanders’ is more radical—and expensive—than his rivals’. Former vice president Joe Biden has called for $20 billion to expand broadband infrastructure in rural America, and wants to triple funding for rural broadband access programs. South Bend, Indiana, mayor Pete Buttigieg touts an $80 billion "Internet for All" plan and promises to restore net neutrality. But Sanders’ call for the Federal Communications Commission to cap broadband prices goes beyond even Warren’s relatively expansive plan, which aimed to achieve affordability by increasing competition in the broadband market.

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The WIRED Guide to Net Neutrality
Like Warren, Sanders says he will appoint FCC commissioners who will classify broadband providers as "common carriers," like traditional phone services, as they were during the Obama administration. That would give the FCC authority not only to restore the net neutrality rules that the FCC jettisoned in 2017 but to regulate rates as well, something the Obama-era FCC declined to do. Sanders' plan would require broadband providers to offer "Basic Internet Plans" at set "affordable" rates. He also wants to ensure free broadband to public housing residents.

Sanders’ plan would ban internet service providers from also providing content. Under his plan, both AT&T, which owns Time Warner, and Comcast, which owns NBC-Universal, would presumably have to separate their roles as access providers and content producers. Warren told The Verge that she wants to split Comcast and NBC-Universal and said she opposed AT&T’s acquisition of Time Warner.

The FCC has already spent billions on programs like Connect America Fund, which helps pay for broadband infrastructure in underserved communities, and the Universal Service Fund, which subsidizes access to telecommunications services, but Sanders and Warren argue that too much of the money from these programs go to large, for-profit carriers. Sanders wants to expand funding for municipal, nonprofit, and cooperatively owned broadband providers through the Green New Deal and calls for the funds to go toward creating union jobs, echoing Biden's infrastructure plan.

Citing outages following Hurricane Sandy and Hurricane Maria, and the threat of climate change, Sanders also wants both new and existing internet and telecommunications infrastructure to stand up to natural disasters.

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Bernie about to get Veritas-ed?
« Reply #141 on: January 13, 2020, 04:34:37 PM »



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Sen. Bernie Sanders' Campaign Staffer
« Reply #144 on: January 17, 2020, 08:07:45 PM »

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« Reply #145 on: January 17, 2020, 08:23:26 PM »

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« Reply #146 on: January 18, 2020, 12:23:55 PM »
Halfway through it.  As feared and expected.

Separately, see

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-weekend-jolt/odd-man-in/
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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders supported Iran Revolution
« Reply #147 on: January 19, 2020, 06:48:52 AM »
His sympathies with the old Soviet Union were just the start of his anti-Americanism.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/when-iran-took-americans-hostage-bernie-backed-irans-defenders
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/01/bernies-history-with-iran.php

BERNIE’S HISTORY WITH IRAN
With Iran back in the spotlight, the Daily Beast reminds us that we–and Bernie Sanders–have been here before:

On April 1, 1979, the theocratic Islamic Republic of Iran was proclaimed. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who had returned to Iran from exile to assume command of the revolt, became Supreme Leader in December of that year. His rise was accelerated by the seizure on Nov. 4 of 52 American diplomats and citizens, and citizens of other countries, at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. The hostage crisis became the means by which the Ayatollah crushed political opponents in Iran. Dealing with the hostage taking became the overwhelming political crisis for President Jimmy Carter. It lasted 444 days.

Virtually all Americans—Democrats, Republicans and independents—united in support of the hostages and the international call for their freedom. One prominent political figure on the 2020 stage, then almost completely unknown, stood apart by joining a Marxist-Leninist party that not only pledged support for the Iranian theocracy, but also justified the hostage taking by insisting the hostages were all likely CIA agents. Who was that person? It was Bernie Sanders.

Sanders was a member of the Trotskyite Socialist Workers’ Party. Not just any member, either; he was the SWP’s presidential elector for Vermont, and he appeared with, and campaigned for, the SWP’s presidential candidate.

When its presidential candidate, Andrew Pulley, came to speak at the University of Vermont in October 1980, Sanders chaired the meeting.
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In his standard stump speech, Pulley condemned “Carter’s war drive against the Iranian people,” and said that the U.S. “was on the brink of war with Iran,” which would be fought “to protect the oil and banking interests of the Rockefellers and other billionaires.” Americans, he predicted, would soon “pay on the battlefields with our very own lives.” Their criticism of the Ayatollah was intended “to get us ready for war.” And, Pulley charged, the media who criticized those of us who were against “American imperialism” were “declared insane.” As for the hostages, Pulley said “we can be sure that many of them are simply spies… or people assigned to protect the spies.”

Pulley’s words were a direct echo of what the Islamic Society of University Teachers and Students had declared on Nov. 4, 1979 : “We defend the capture of this imperialist embassy, which is a center for espionage.”

Not much has changed since 1980. Sanders is still a blame-America-first crank who had little or nothing to say about the Iranian-led attack on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad. But he exploded in fury over the killing of arch-terrorist Qassem Soleimani and pledged to “stop a war with Iran,” just as in 1980 his Socialist Workers’ Party had no problem with the mullahs holding 52 Americans hostage for over a year, but hysterically warned that the Carter administration was leading us into war with Iran. Which would have been all our fault.

Sanders was a nasty piece of work then, and he is equally nasty now.


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sanders familymade money in Burlington jobs
« Reply #149 on: January 20, 2020, 05:30:09 PM »
typical commie:

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/01/20/schweizer-bernie-sanders-funneled-taxpayers-school-money-to-his-family/

preaching free equality health care and education

while he or his family get special treatment