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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1250 on: November 09, 2020, 07:41:42 PM »
You have more faith in Barr than I do.


Barr has ordered DOJ to look into election fraud. They can begin fully investigating on Friday, after the 10 day grace period of the election.

U.S. DOJ Elections Crime Branch Director Richard Pilger has resigned in response to Attorney General William Barr's memo authorizing an election fraud investigation (NYT). Pilger was the one who let Lois Lerner off the hook with the IRS and Tea Party fame.

Was he told to resign........or get fired?

Trump beginning to clean house. He must know he has the Dems by the balls.

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1251 on: November 10, 2020, 07:29:05 AM »
We shall see.............
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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1252 on: November 11, 2020, 10:25:08 AM »
Tordislung:

The culture of this forum is different than the snarkfests so common elsewhere. 

https://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=961.0


Tuhon Crafty,

I'm not being "snarky," and I have respect for everyone here.

Doug and others have mentioned that Libertarians should support Republicans, even when they trample the 2nd Amendment.

The ATF is actively interpreting and dictating what legislation will be, a job for the courts and legislative branches respectively - this... from the current Republican administration.

I've not called anyone any names, nor told them how they should vote. I backed up what I have to say with facts.

Trump and his ATF are dismantling the 2nd, and if they're going to do that, they neither get credit for defending it nor our votes. Perhaps, the Republicans will learn to include more libertarian principles in their actions if they want to earn our votes. It's a fair challenge.


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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1254 on: November 11, 2020, 02:05:15 PM »
"I will not declare victory till certified"

said Biden
I guess he forgot he said this

Interesting how he seems to have hit the fountain of youth the past week isn't it?

he represents all of Americans
  he state out of one side of his historically lying mouth
as he hires and surrounds himself with all the Obama era socialists and democrat swamp creatures - they are all he knows.

who does he think he is kidding

NO I DO NOT wish him success any more than I wished it for his previous deceitful boss

Now we are the resistance.

Obviously we will NEVER know for sure but it is hard to believe this election was not stolen illegally




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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1255 on: November 11, 2020, 02:07:22 PM »
Tordislung:

The culture of this forum is different than the snarkfests so common elsewhere. 

https://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=961.0


Tuhon Crafty,

I'm not being "snarky," and I have respect for everyone here.

Doug and others have mentioned that Libertarians should support Republicans, even when they trample the 2nd Amendment.

The ATF is actively interpreting and dictating what legislation will be, a job for the courts and legislative branches respectively - this... from the current Republican administration.

I've not called anyone any names, nor told them how they should vote. I backed up what I have to say with facts.

Trump and his ATF are dismantling the 2nd, and if they're going to do that, they neither get credit for defending it nor our votes. Perhaps, the Republicans will learn to include more libertarian principles in their actions if they want to earn our votes. It's a fair challenge.

Libertarian Ideas Are Great, Voting Libertarian Self-Defeating
 November 11, 2020 Updated: November 11, 2020 Print
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As of this writing, the votes separating Donald Trump and Joe Biden in the swing states of Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin are less than the numbers gained by Libertarian Party candidate Jo Jorgensen who garnered close to 1.7 percent of the popular vote.

As Joel Pollak wrote on Breitbart.com, “If Jorgensen’s votes went to Trump, instead of allowing Biden to win these states, the president would win re-election, with 289 Electoral College votes.”

Whether this is absolutely true is, of course, unknowable, but given the current leftward-lurching Democratic Party that seems about as libertarian as Chairman Mao, if push came to the proverbial shove, the majority of Ms. Jorgensen’s voters likely would have gone to Trump.

She seems like a decent person but Jorgensen—interviewed here by Jan Jekielek for his compelling American Thought Leaders series—is a textbook example of what I termed a “moral narcissist” in my 2016 book “I Know Best: How Moral Narcissism Is Destroying Our Republic, If It Hasn’t Already.”

What the moral narcissist claims she believes (in this case Jorgensen, but there are many similar self-described liberals and progressives as well)—not the actual results of those beliefs—is what defines her as a person and makes her good.

Joel Pollak made those results in Jorgensen’s case painfully clear in the link above, but they are arguably even worse in the long run.

The more libertarian ideas are debated within the Republican Party, the more that party’s candidates will have to respond to them and, potentially, espouse them. They will have real world implications.

When you waste them on something as inconsequential as a fringe and almost entirely ignored Libertarian Party candidacy, particularly in something so hotly contested as a presidential election, you vitiate them and are ultimately self-defeating, not to mention, as we have seen, sabotaging the only viable candidate who best carries your ideas.

Trump is far from a pure, or even relatively pure, libertarian, but compared to Joe Biden—especially given what surrounds him from Bernie Sanders to Kamala Harris to AOC—he’s a veritable Ron Raul.

Moreover, the “deplorables” who are, oddly, more libertarian than Trump on the street level—they wish more than anything to be left alone by government—could push or could have pushed Trump more in their direction during a second term, especially after the pandemic.

Which leads to the ultimately more important question of the efficacy of ideological purity. Is it self-defeating in and of itself?

Taking almost any ideology to extremes raises significant problems. On the left, it couldn’t be more obvious because it leads to the likes of Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot. But ultra-libertarianism has problems as well, though thankfully not as fatal.

I have become increasingly libertarian over the years, but believe that government has a role, and not just in national defense and public safety. Some social safety net is finally necessary too, for moral and practical reasons, but must be designed to lift people out of that net, not keep people addicted to it.

Ideological purity tends to blind you to the reality in front of you or become what Thomas Sterne in the 18th Century termed “hobby-horsical.”

For the 2012 election I spent an hour interviewing Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson for PJMedia (then Pajamas Media). Johnson, the former governor of New Mexico, spent the entire time talking about the importance of legalizing marijuana.

Now although I was not and am not adverse to this (with the caveat that potheads can indeed be blockheads and that there are serious potential health issues), I rank and ranked the issue way down the list of presidential priorities, somewhere near the bottom.

But try as I might to raise serious questions of foreign and domestic policy, Johnson kept returning to his hobby horse of legal “grass” as if that were the linchpin of human freedom and the most significant issue we faced.

I walked away from that interview disappointed in much the same way I reacted to the interview linked above with Jorgensen, of whom, I admit, I was only tangentially aware. Her candidacy seemed finally to about her and not even about the ideas she so adamantly espoused.

With all due respect, and I mean this because I don’t know the woman, that’s moral narcissism in action. We see it everywhere.

Be libertarian as you want, but do it in a way that gets results. Otherwise, it’s just another charade.

Roger L. Simon is an award-winning novelist, Oscar-nominated screenwriter, co-founder of PJMedia, and now, a columnist for The Epoch Times. His most recent books are “The GOAT” (fiction) and “I Know Best: How Moral Narcissism Is Destroying Our Republic, If It Hasn’t Already” (nonfiction). Find him on Parler and Twitter (for now) @rogerlsimon.

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1256 on: November 14, 2020, 09:49:37 AM »
Here is an article written by some Cuckservative on a Cuck website.

https://www.spartareport.com/2020/11/election-day-11-why-did-dems-commit-such-blatant-fraud/

Might be worth a read.
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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1258 on: November 14, 2020, 06:03:55 PM »
Wow!  Next this needs to turn into real numbers of votes switched, added or dropped.

"Biden’s current lead of 14,152 votes in Georgia"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/11/13/joe-biden-trump-election-live-updates/
"Biden leads by close to 11,000 votes in Arizona."
"Biden has the lead by 50,481 votes"
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-bidens-lead-over-president-trump-has-grown-to-more-than-50000-votes-in-pennsylvania

the clock is ticking, as Georgia, Michigan, and Pennsylvania - three states that tipped the scales to Biden and handed him the White House - are due to certify the results in just nine days.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8948833/Trump-NINE-days-overturn-loss-Pennsylvania-Georgia-Michigan-set-certify-election.html



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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1261 on: November 16, 2020, 11:55:13 AM »
Paywall blocked on my wife's lap top.  May I ask you to paste?

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« Reply #1262 on: November 16, 2020, 12:53:16 PM »
NR PLUS ELECTIONS
Trump’s Post-Election Litigation Crusade
By ANDREW C. MCCARTHY
November 14, 2020 6:30 AM

President Donald Trump arrives to deliver an update on Operation Warp Speed at the White House, November 13, 2020. (Carlos Barria/Reuters)
The outlook is dim for these last-ditch suits. The fat lady might not be singing yet — but she’s clearing her throat.

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There is a simple way to illustrate what is wrong with President Trump’s fusillade of legal challenges to Joe Biden’s increasingly apparent victory in the 2020 election: Just consider what is at stake in the case that has drawn the most attention. That is the Supreme Court case, in which Republicans are pleading with the justices to rule that Pennsylvania’s highest court unconstitutionally contravened state law by allowing ballots to be received for three days after Election Day.

That matter has riveted the attention of election watchers. It has gotten extensive national media coverage. The Trump campaign has talked it up as crucial. Trump supporters have good reason to believe that the law is on their side and that the president is likely to prevail if the Court agrees to hear the case.

And . . . it’s about 10,000 votes. If you’re keeping score, that’s not close to what Trump needs.

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See, the president trails by 55,000 in Pennsylvania. It is anything but clear that all 10,000 late-arriving ballots are Biden votes — a goodly chunk of them could be Trump votes that the president would be knocking out. But even if we suspend disbelief and assume that they’re all Biden votes, the president would still be 45,000 short of flipping the state into his win column.

This is the president’s fatal problem. No matter which battleground state we analyze, there is always a mismatch between the impropriety alleged and the remedy that it could yield. Where Trump is strongest, as in the Supreme Court case, the yield in votes is a relative pittance. Where Trump’s claims are weaker and hotly disputed, the president is asking for mass disfranchisement, which no court is ever going to order.

Comments I made about this state of play in a Fox News interview Friday morning irritated some of my Trump-diehard friends. I was asked whether the president should continue pursuing his legal challenges. Of course, it’s not my place to say what the president should do — 71 million people didn’t vote for me, and Donald Trump is absolutely entitled to exercise his legal rights. So, since I wouldn’t presume to say what the president should do, I confined myself to what I would do — which is acknowledge the reality that the election is lost.

This is not to concede a lack of voting irregularities. There has never been a big election about which such a boast could confidently be made. Some of the allegations of error and misconduct that the Trump campaign has alleged are bound to be true. On the other hand, some have already been found by judges to be wildly overstated — which, naturally, can only undermine the credibility of any valid claims the campaign has.

Nevertheless, “let’s see how it goes” is not a strategy. Before embarking on a campaign, including a litigation campaign, you have to identify the objective and make an assessment of whether or not it is attainable. Here, the objective is to reverse the election result, which the president cannot do unless he can flip not one but three states, one of which must be Pennsylvania.

This is not about equity. It is not about whether there was fraud. It is not about the entirely rational deduction that, because Democrats fight every attempt to shore up election integrity, they are looking for opportunities to cheat, if necessary, at the margins.

This is about math.

Presumptive president-elect Biden is currently winning the electoral vote count by 306 to 232. To get President Trump to the magic number of 270, or to get Biden under it, would require shifting 38 votes. Pennsylvania is only 20, so even if Trump could get it, he’d be 18 short. The Trump campaign appears to think its next best case is Michigan and its 16 electoral votes. The president trails there by 146,000.

I will come shortly to why I don’t believe the president has a realistic chance of flipping either of these states. But first, even if he could, what third state could he flip? There appear to be four candidates: Georgia (16 votes), Wisconsin (ten votes), Arizona (eleven votes) and Nevada (six votes).

In Georgia and Wisconsin, there is scant evidence of impropriety, but the races are tight enough to warrant recounts. Yet, recounts historically may shift a few hundred votes, not thousands. Trump trails by 10,000 in Georgia and 20,000 in Wisconsin. Recounts are not going to change those results.

In Arizona, the evidence of fraud is so scant the Trump campaign dropped its legal case in Maricopa County on Friday. Trump claims had already been rejected multiple times in court, and the state’s Republican attorney general has emphatically stated that there is neither evidence of material fraud nor reason to believe the result will be reversed. In Nevada, evidence of illegal ballots is similarly sparse, the Trump campaign has already lost in state court (where the case was sufficiently weak that the campaign moved to dismiss it), and the duplicative federal case it has filed has no apparent chance of prevailing.

Even assuming Trump could miraculously flip both Pennsylvania and Michigan, it is not obvious what third state he could get. And if he got only Pennsylvania, he’d need two of Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Nevada. At how many windmills shall we tilt?

Now, let’s go back to Pennsylvania and Michigan. In neither state is the campaign claiming it can show particularized instances of vote fraud. Instead, it is alleging systemic irregularities — i.e., the safeguards assuring vote integrity were so lacking for mail-in ballots in the big-city Democratic strongholds of Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and Detroit that the mail-in ballots for entire counties must be voided — to the tune of 680,000 votes in Pennsylvania and 1.2 million votes in Michigan.


As I explained in a column earlier this week in connection with the Pennsylvania lawsuit (and the same goes for the Michigan lawsuit), the Trump campaign is relying on the equal-protection-of-law theory derived from Bush v. Gore (2000). The idea is that suspected illegal mail-in voters were privileged in a way citizens who voted legally and in person were not, and that counting the former’s ballots dilutes the latter’s.

Let’s stipulate that the Trump campaign can prove significant instances of impropriety. This, by the way, is a generous assumption. On Friday, Chief Judge Timothy M. Kenny of Michigan’s Third Circuit Court rejected a Republican effort to prevent the certification of votes in Wayne County, which includes Detroit. In so ruling, Judge Kenny found most of the allegations (which also factor into the Trump campaign’s federal lawsuit) to be speculative, based on flawed assumptions, biased, factually incorrect, and/or incredible. Pennsylvania election officials have echoed these critiques in a submission rebutting Trump-campaign allegations in Allegheny and Philadelphia Counties.

The problem is that even if some degree of fraud could be proved, the remedy would have to be commensurate with the illegality. Otherwise, Biden voters would be denied equal protection on the same theory the Trump campaign posits.

If it could be established that procedures in the big cities were so lax that large-scale fraud probably occurred, the Trump campaign would, at most, get an opportunity to scrutinize ballots to show individual instances of fraud or other impropriety. That is, the remedy would be surgical. Courts are not going to crudely erase the hundreds of thousands of votes of entire counties over a comparatively modest showing of impropriety. If a court did that, it would not just be diluting the votes of hundreds of thousands of citizens who voted legally; it would be disenfranchising them. And if, as the Trump campaign maintains (correctly, no doubt), the votes in question are overwhelmingly Biden votes, then the disenfranchisement of lawful Biden voters would, under the Trump campaign’s own legal theory, improperly inflate Trump votes.

The Trump campaign’s federal suit in Michigan elucidates these flaws. The campaign relies on claimed systematic improprieties in Wayne County (the ones Judge Kenny of the state court rejected). Trump, however, seeks to strike the mail-in ballots not only from Wayne but also from Washtenaw and Ingham Counties. Yet, the campaign has little to say about either county. Ingham is barely mentioned, and Washtenaw is faulted for having more registered than eligible voters. The latter is a common situation that could potentially result in illegal voting, but not inevitably so — let alone inevitable tens of thousands of illegal votes.


As explained above, in the unlikely event the federal court completely agreed with the Trump campaign that there were systematic flaws in Wayne County that threatened election integrity, it would not totally wipe out Wayne’s votes; it is certainly not going to void hundreds of thousands of votes in two other counties that are barely involved and that Democrats will plausibly claim were targeted only because knocking out their votes would shift the statewide lead from Biden to Trump.

In any event, even if the Trump campaign could knock out a few thousand votes in Pennsylvania and Michigan, and that’s not close to a sure thing, it is not going to knock out enough to overcome Biden leads of 55,000 and 146,000 votes.

It should go without saying that I am not endorsing fraud or judicial indifference. Quite the opposite. I’ve repeatedly urged that the Supreme Court should decide the Pennsylvania case. For purposes of future elections, the justices should instruct federal and state judges that they lack general supervisory power to rewrite election laws enacted by state legislatures. Allegations of fraud should be investigated — whether through Trump-campaign lawsuits, legislative hearings, or law-enforcement probes — and any offenders should be prosecuted.

Moreover, election practices need to be carefully examined prior to the next election. Rules cannot be changed at or near the time of voting. If mail-in voting is a bad idea (I think it is), and if voter-identification and vote-tabulation procedures should be tightened up (I’m all for that), the time to do that is before an election happens. It was state laws that permitted the procedures under which the 2020 election took place — state laws that the Republicans, right now, are asking the Supreme Court to rule can’t be changed close to an election. It is too late at this point to claim that the rules were too lax, even if they were.

The honest answer to the question I was asked Friday morning is that I personally don’t see a path to victory here. I take no joy in that — I wanted Trump to defeat Biden. Legally, however, I don’t see how the Trump campaign is going to change the result in a single state, much less three states. Again, the president has a right to his legal challenges. The Illuminati never squawk when Democrats pursue theirs — when Hillary Clinton proclaims that, if he appeared to have lost, Joe Biden should not concede to Trump “under any circumstances”; or when Democrats spend years falsely claiming a Republican president’s hold on the office is illegitimate. We are not in a crisis. The Trump legal challenges should be wrapped up in advance of the first week in December, when states must certify their votes.

But if “it ain’t over ‘til the fat lady sings,” then, as they say, that sound you hear is the fat lady clearing her throat.



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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1264 on: November 17, 2020, 09:54:24 AM »
Am scheduled for the reeducation camps now.  Just waiting for the Harris/Biden team to let me know when and where.
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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1265 on: November 17, 2020, 02:41:22 PM »
"Am scheduled for the reeducation camps now.  Just waiting for the Harris/Biden team to let me know when and where."

in patient will be conducted in Philadelphia , Detroit , Milwaukee , Harlem ,  Watts

outpatient "treatments " beginning in home with all networks cable and FB Google Twitter

Radio stations "temporarily " shut down

you can continue to get re education treatment in schools

and any Federal government facility

for those difficult cases think the Prudhoe Bay .

maybe shortwave radio will be able to avoid re education .




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still counting votes in California and NY
« Reply #1268 on: November 19, 2020, 08:29:58 AM »
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-politics-elections-372af3b89bc1f5f0f6d7f8c80025a9b0

Joe "the Great" is closing in on 80 million votes
his lead keeps increasing

SIXTEEN days after election day.

 shysterism  I think that is an adjective - if not I just made it up.


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reports Trump is purposely being disruptive for 2024
« Reply #1269 on: November 19, 2020, 02:55:04 PM »
As always reports of this or that, if negative about Trump , are taken as gospel, proof , evidence

but anything positive on our side is hearsay
conspiracy theory
right wing nuts
no proof
not evidence
lies
"birther"
"racist"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-reportedly-given-hopes-overturning-132945336.html

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1272 on: November 19, 2020, 06:50:56 PM »

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1273 on: November 19, 2020, 07:23:50 PM »

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1274 on: November 19, 2020, 07:32:57 PM »

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1275 on: November 19, 2020, 08:26:15 PM »
And, trying again :oops:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buQCdCSDWQQ&fbclid=IwAR3vEfCu6VUrItdagIhhToxTRExygxVeZwX88GsKtCVrnzQFmJFavOui-I8

Begins with Rudy at 5800 or 5900.  Sydney is around 12700 or 13700 IIRC.

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big donors to Stacy Abrams Fair Fight
« Reply #1279 on: November 22, 2020, 09:22:58 AM »
https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/fair-fight-pac/C00693515/summary/2020

no soros is not at top of list

it is the other one

who at various times is a democrat republican or independent depending on which suits his business most.

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Re: 2020 Presidential election, Sidney Powell
« Reply #1280 on: November 23, 2020, 06:34:32 AM »
It seemed that all remaining hope of reelection rested on the claims made by attorney Sidney Powell.  Now the Trump team has disowned her.  Why?
a. She has nothing, or
b. What she has doesn't point all in one direction? What she has points also to the Georgia Republican Governor.
c.  Money

https://noqreport.com/2020/11/23/sidney-powells-separation-from-team-trump-had-nothing-to-do-with-dominion-conspiracy-theories/

Wait and see seems to be the only course left.
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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1281 on: November 23, 2020, 06:50:27 AM »
she was kind of our last real hope:

"Now the Trump team has disowned her.  Why?"

good question but does not sound good from our stand point

Like Sean Hannity said early on the cat is already out of the bag

We will never know the extent of the Fraud .  I think it almost certain it is a LOT more than what we have seen .

Probably was enough to sway the election - in my opinion much likely it did than did not

that said we didn't fight back early enough
we all knew what the Dems were up to

it is frustrating to know all this fraud and abuse of the courts the constitution
and nothing we can do about it

I know the feeling well

the lying political scoundrels just like the music industry types
no shame
just lying crooks

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1282 on: November 23, 2020, 02:20:16 PM »
I would add that President Trump has failed to have a heart to heart with the American people showing  consciousness of and responsiveness to honest concerns regular people have about him.

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1283 on: November 23, 2020, 03:31:46 PM »
".I would add that President Trump has failed to have a heart to heart with the American people showing  consciousness of and responsiveness to honest concerns regular people have about him."

well sure

like Coulter said

we know he is incapable of true empathy or sympathy unless it directly affects himself
but worse he couldn't even pretend to be kind

he could not even get himself to say " i feel your pain" let alone mean it.

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1284 on: November 23, 2020, 03:35:43 PM »
I want presidents to be presidents, not teary-eyed soibois.

YMMV

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2020 Presidential election, margin of victory = 0.049%
« Reply #1285 on: November 23, 2020, 04:22:37 PM »
Margin of Victory

Neb. 2nd dist. - 31,192   1 electoral vote

Georgia - 12,670          16 electoral votes

Wisconsin - 20,608        10 electoral votes

Arizona - 10,457          11 electoral votes

Total - 74,927

Total votes cast: 153,613,774

Margin of victory: 0.049%

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thats all folks
« Reply #1286 on: November 23, 2020, 04:42:25 PM »

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1287 on: November 23, 2020, 06:22:21 PM »
Only thing I know now about what is going on is that I do not know what is going on.

Whole thing is one confused messed. Not optimistic of outcome.
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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1290 on: November 28, 2020, 08:39:52 AM »
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/tsunami-of-voter-fraud-evidence-is-about-to-sweep-away-medias-claim-that-biden-won

I sure hope so.

I see others far less optimistic than this article.  I see the Court turning this only if the evidence is completely convincing and even then highly unlikely.
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"“The number of questionable ballots surpasses the vote margin in at least three states right now—Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin,” Braynard told The Epoch Times on Nov. 25. Those three states have a combined total of 37 electoral votes."
https://www.theepochtimes.com/election-findings-could-easily-overturn-3-states-data-analyst-concludes_3595153.html?utm_source=partner

Even this, "questionable", isn't enough.
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document fraud
« Reply #1291 on: November 28, 2020, 09:16:27 AM »
every vote must count

takes precedence over the crimes committed

we should have had our on mills churning out bags of 100% Trump ballots and then bring them in noon time and dumped on the
inner city election tables with Republican people watching to be sure they counted

instead of cocaine they are producing. bags of phony ballots

like a well coordinated heist

with legal protection
like the paid off players in a mob story