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Re: Epstein
« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2019, 06:22:24 PM »
All in good fun, but OTOH we do need to acknowledge that AG Barr says he too was suspicious but upon reviewing the video, now believes the official version.

Then there should be no reason for all the documents, reports and videos to be made public, right?



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Small world
« Reply #54 on: December 13, 2019, 06:55:17 PM »
https://www.businessinsider.com/maurene-comey-james-comey-daughter-leading-jeffrey-epstein-case-2019-7

Just one of the many coincidences that absolutely have nothing to do with anything. My word as a Biden!

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Epstein's missing footage
« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2019, 11:24:33 PM »

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Re: Epstein
« Reply #56 on: December 19, 2019, 04:40:55 AM »
" .Strange how the totally trustworthy DOJ just loses things."

If it wasn't for Barr we probably would never even have heard about this.  The first response I have seen from the higher ups in such situations is not to really try to get to the bottom of it, but to cover it up.   

Of course with real objective government watchdog jornolisters we might actually have more magnification of the corruption .
But alas they all go to the same parties and are intermingled through marriages previous gig, children in same private schools, jobs, internships inside business deals and DNC connections.  No sarcasm - just the truth

Just like another Federal Government office I have posted about numerous times.

Just mistakes, from  overworked servants of the American people (and illegals) .

Never a purposeful crime,  just lost.
Must have been a mistake.  Or perhaps it was your mistake.




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Connected pimp still able to avoid jail
« Reply #58 on: January 01, 2020, 05:42:25 AM »
‘has so much dirt on powerful people she thinks she’ll avoid Epstein charges & return to high society’

So far she is right.
Sickening .


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Re: Connected pimp still able to avoid jail
« Reply #59 on: January 01, 2020, 05:54:05 AM »
‘has so much dirt on powerful people she thinks she’ll avoid Epstein charges & return to high society’

So far she is right.
Sickening .

She needs to be very careful. Sounds careless to me.

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Re: Epstein
« Reply #60 on: January 01, 2020, 06:48:46 AM »
"She needs to be very careful. Sounds careless to me."

maybe
I do not have much faith in the justice system
as a result of  my own experiences.

Maybe I would if I was well connected.......
but like you said there is a two tiered justice system in the US

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Re: Epstein
« Reply #61 on: January 01, 2020, 06:20:46 PM »
"She needs to be very careful. Sounds careless to me."

maybe
I do not have much faith in the justice system
as a result of  my own experiences.

Maybe I would if I was well connected.......
but like you said there is a two tiered justice system in the US

It's at least 3 or 4, perhaps more at this point.


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Still unclear to me if Epstein was killed by some else or himself
« Reply #63 on: January 05, 2020, 07:30:54 PM »
From page 281 Spitz and Fisher "Medicolegal Investigation of Death "
   second ed.  1977

Strangulation by Ligature .                          Hanging

1) . mark on neck is commonly horizontal .   1) Mark on neck passes upward toward the knot , it maybe horizontal as in strangulation,
                                                                    if hanging is carried out while lying down
2) . Mark on neck is commonly below the .    2) Mark on the neck is commonly in the level of the thyroid cartilage or above it
      level of the thyroid cartilage

3) Hyoid bone and /or thyroid cartilage          3) Hyoid bone and thyroid cartilage are usually intact, except in hanging with a long drop
    are sometimes fractured .                              or in elderly individuals ( who suffer from osteoporotic fragile bone )


I would agree with Dr Baden the marks on the neck more closely resemble being made from a wire core the a soft sheet cord
and I agree with him that the evidence we so far see does not explain everything that took place .

Of note the Epstein's previous cell mate Nicholas Tartaglione lured one of the four men he murdered " Martin Luna to a Chester bar and restraining Luna and three other victims, Nicholas Tartaglione beat Luna, put a plastic zip tie around his neck and choked him to death, prosecutors said in legal papers filed in White Plains federal court."

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2nd post : the camera was corrupted the night of Epstein's death?
« Reply #64 on: January 06, 2020, 04:48:22 AM »
"Sources say the camera that should have captured those angles was corrupted the night of Epstein's death."

Did the security guards do this to cover something up?

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Re: 2nd post : the camera was corrupted the night of Epstein's death?
« Reply #65 on: January 06, 2020, 04:54:21 AM »
"Sources say the camera that should have captured those angles was corrupted the night of Epstein's death."

Did the security guards do this to cover something up?

Correctional Officers

They shouldn't have access to the DVR recording the video.

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Re: Epstein
« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2020, 05:17:01 AM »
"They shouldn't have access to the DVR recording the video."

What about the camera in the jail pod?

Suddenly the description is not the camera was broken of malfunctioning as though benign

but the adjective "corrupted " is use
and on the day of his death

This is hard to think this was accidental or incompetence.  Sounds more like competence of a cover up of something

Why is it when an official says he is 100% sure nothing wrong here I have little faith of what he is saying?

Sad but true

I wonder who is paying for the high powered attorney(s) for the corrections officers?

The Union or wired money transfers?

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Re: Epstein
« Reply #68 on: January 07, 2020, 07:49:51 AM »
If true, that certainly does not contradict the notion that Epstein was a giant blackmailing operation.


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Re: Epstein
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2020, 04:51:35 AM »
"Kevin Spacey was also on the trip with Bill Clinton. There is no suggestion he knew about Epstein's crimes"

No one would expect him to be interested

this was a hetero gig
I have not seen underage boys involved to my knowledge

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full cover up mode
« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2020, 02:15:44 PM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/surveillance-video-jeffrey-epstein-s-first-apparent-suicide-attempt-no-n1113166

#1 to think no copies were made ?
#2  this is full cover up mode
      Gosh I guess I deleted wrong tape and saved the wrong one! 

This is like Copyright Office

deliberate alteration of data then if caught just throw up your hands and say, "sorry" someone made a mistake"

Result nothing


Those all hurt by it are simply screwed and nothing is done.


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Re: full cover up mode
« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2020, 05:30:15 PM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/surveillance-video-jeffrey-epstein-s-first-apparent-suicide-attempt-no-n1113166

#1 to think no copies were made ?
#2  this is full cover up mode
      Gosh I guess I deleted wrong tape and saved the wrong one! 

This is like Copyright Office

deliberate alteration of data then if caught just throw up your hands and say, "sorry" someone made a mistake"

Result nothing


Those all hurt by it are simply screwed and nothing is done.

I love that NBC decided to add this to the end of the story:

If you or someone you know is in crisis, call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800-273-8255, text HOME to 741741 or visit SpeakingOfSuicide.com/resources for additional resources

 :roll:

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Re: Epstein
« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2020, 05:56:34 PM »
All in good fun, but OTOH we do need to acknowledge that AG Barr says he too was suspicious but upon reviewing the video, now believes the official version.

What video did he watch?

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Re: Epstein
« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2020, 08:38:24 PM »
"No one would expect him to be interested"

You crack me up.

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Re: Epstein
« Reply #75 on: January 09, 2020, 08:42:18 PM »
I think we know less than 1% of the depravity and evil that has gone on in these circles.


"Kevin Spacey was also on the trip with Bill Clinton. There is no suggestion he knew about Epstein's crimes"

No one would expect him to be interested

this was a hetero gig
I have not seen underage boys involved to my knowledge

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Joe Rogan on Epstein
« Reply #76 on: January 11, 2020, 09:48:57 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcRtRUbKnfY

Lots of people are choking on a big red pill.


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« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2020, 05:12:45 AM »
"Epstein and his entourage were granted a private tour of Elon Musk's SpaceX facility in Hawthorne, California, in 2012."

Think of it . Jeff could have had his stable of innocents awaiting the rich famous and powerful who could be flown to his private pediphile ranch
where no law applies.

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Epstein's bloody eyes
« Reply #79 on: January 16, 2020, 08:06:37 PM »

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'Epstein and I have everyone on videotape'
« Reply #82 on: February 21, 2020, 07:10:01 PM »
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/21/epstein-have-everyone-videotape-ghislaine-maxwell-alleged-have/

'Epstein and I have everyone on videotape' Ghislaine Maxwell alleged to have confided
Socialite with links to royal family reveals she has spoken to FBI about friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and Ms Maxwell

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Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell CREDIT: Patrick McMullan
Ghislaine Maxwell told a former acquaintance that she and Jeffrey Epstein had “everything on videotape,” it has been claimed.

Christina Oxenberg, a socialite and distant relative of the royals, said Ms Maxwell also once told her that Epstein had purchased his own helicopter because commercial pilots were “eyes and ears” they did not need.

She revealed she had spoken to the FBI about what she had been told.

Ms Oxenberg, 57, first met Maxwell in the early 1990s and said she would never forget a conversation the pair once had in Maxwell’s home.

“We were alone,” she said. “She said many things. All creepy. Unorthodox. Strange. I could not believe whatever she was saying was real. Stuff like: 'Jeffrey and I have everyone on videotape.’”...

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Re: Epstein
« Reply #85 on: July 02, 2020, 12:20:51 PM »


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don't understand this one -
« Reply #87 on: July 03, 2020, 02:49:29 PM »
https://www.newsweek.com/judge-rules-virginia-giuffres-lawyers-must-destroy-jeffrey-epstein-files-1514909

I presume the prosecution has the originals?

the defense lawyers "improperly " got files?

I am presuming the judge did not just order destruction of evidence ?



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Re: Epstein
« Reply #90 on: July 06, 2020, 07:32:59 AM »
DNC led SDNY will get Ghrislane off is she claims Trump was with underage girl

she will be set free , get the movie rights, and a front row seat at DNC convention
and  job at CNN as hollywood reporter


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Maxwell's dad
« Reply #91 on: July 08, 2020, 08:39:58 PM »


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the suspense is immense
« Reply #93 on: July 14, 2020, 01:29:14 PM »
ok
already so who are the pedophiles and how much did they pay up?

and who did they influence to get Epstein off the first time in Florida?

Is trump one or Dems or all of them?

for God's sakes let's water boarder her, and get the damn tapes and it over with already.

these tapes are worth millions..........

my guess is more likely then not we will never see them or know who is in them........




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Re: Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell
« Reply #95 on: July 15, 2020, 04:32:31 PM »

"Judge rules evidence must be destroyed"

yes see the posts on July 3

clearly this is cover up to protect thee big wigs
is there any other way to see this ?

but rumor is she has copies?

media only cares if they catch the Donald screwing underage girls
otherwise look the other way

so many big shots involved it  would be easier to escape alcatraz in its heyday



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" I wish her well"
« Reply #96 on: July 21, 2020, 03:35:06 PM »

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Re: Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell
« Reply #97 on: July 21, 2020, 07:21:13 PM »
Depending on one's bent in these things, that could be interpreted in more than one way.


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Re: Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell
« Reply #99 on: August 03, 2020, 05:45:02 AM »
so what if  Clinton was there
it want to discuss his child and grandchild stuff with good friend Jeff - nothing more than that

just like Bill did with Loretta Lynn.