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Wow, that was a brutal fight. The choking sound especially! Hardcore. We’re working on this movement today.
The footage you see here is from the very early days. I had just begun with the Machado Brothers in the summer of 1990 and so we all this was pre-UFC. Eric jumped in and Arlan, not having BJJ at the time in NM, went to KK as a way of stopping the close.
Has there been any thought given to using the mechanics of the Fang technique, not as a choke, but against other targets? I’m thinking of pain compliance/submission by “pinching” whatever is within reach during a clinch or grapple: big muscle groups (quad, hamstring, upper arms), knee & elbow joints, “love handles”, lats, etc. I’ve had a few fights where I think I could have pulled something like that off, but it felt a little dirty or underhanded, so I let it go.
See first twenty seconds of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5KkPcMUN_Q
You can here an “Arrrggghhh” out of him but I could tell it wasn’t going to work and so moved on.
At approx: 03:00 I get a submission by fanging my opponent’s arm pit.
I suspect had the stakes been higher, he could/would have endured the pain.
The conceptual point at play here is pain versus damage.
A Fang to the neck can crush the windpipe and I am guessing could damage the vital arteries found there– or at least so it might feel to the recipient.
On the other hand, while the arm pit is quite sensitive, I do not have an intuitive sense of the potential for damage. Thus, what happens if/when we let go?
I would suggest using the BJJ guidance of “Position before submission.” If you can give it a try without putting your position at risk, then by all means give it a go. I have no sense of it being “dirty” or “underhanded” but would caution you with the dangers of having it work and by so doing persuading you it would work in a high stakes fight where the willingness to endure pain is higher or in a fight with someone who is feeling no pain.
Story: When working with 5th SF I showed a nail bed gouge that GM Gilbert Tenio had done on my years before in Stockton. One of the Green Berets asked me to do it on him and so I did. The technique is SUPER annoying and so I increased its application gradually with eye contact as I did so. He just looked at me poker-faced until I got the message. DON”T COUNT ON PAIN KUNG FU FOOL.
I gave him a nod that the message had been received.
As my telling here nearly twenty years later attests, the lesson remains learned.